FR: The dirtiest angel I've ever met

HumanSockPuppet · 2014-10-02T16:54:02+00:00

Ive been thinking about this conversation too and i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv kinda thing. any thoughts on that?

Wear a mask long enough and it becomes your face, for good or ill.

You used to wear a beta mask, and it became you. Now you've donned a new one.

Become him.

kingofpoplives · 2014-10-02T15:15:57+00:00

we have a date friday night. I would like to get some pointers from you guys on how to handle the initial awkward hello in person that i usually deal with.

Don't be surprised if she as not as keen to bang as her texting might suggest. A lot of girls like to start with the dirty texting almost immediately -- does not mean the lay is guaranteed.

Whatever you do, do not let down your guard and slip into beta behavior. Girls do this type of thing to get a guy on the hook, thinking about the sex, obsessing over her.

If you can avoid this trap and treat her with disinterest, short spare text responses, not trying to impress her, etc, your chances of closing the deal will be a lot better.

tombreck2 · 2014-10-02T15:02:26+00:00

hot trial lawyer, self proclaimed good girl

Those two things are polar opposites

the initial awkward hello in person that i usually deal with.

Don't make a big deal out of it. My go to line when I meet a girl for the first time at a bar is:

"There was this hardcore looking dude in a suit just sitting here. He had scars on his face and was speaking different languages on the phone. We talked a little and he told me some crazy shit about his job. So, you've got some big shoes to fill."

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-02T15:59:53+00:00

It's like a light bulb goes on when you understand Red Pill.

Keep learning... this stuff is deep and you have plenty more to discover.

Misteralcala · 2014-10-02T18:46:51+00:00

Remember not to act too thirsty - don't seem too eager when you go out with her. Remain calm, in control and cool. Start your escalation off SLOWLY - light kino etc. If you go straight for "You look so hot! Let's go fuck!" her pussy will dry up and she'll know you're not the real deal.

Remember that you have all night, but only the patient, fun and dominant man gets what he wants. Keep escalating until she's soaked and demands you take her home and have your way with her.

Lastly, never ask. Just do and follow the rules of escalation. She wants you to fuck the shit out of her, but she wants to believe she couldn't help it because you're just too fucking sexy.

some12talk2 · 2014-10-02T19:06:35+00:00

since she is a hot trial lawyer her shit tests will have shit tests

Google youtube shit tests

practice and remember agree and amplify is your friend

MisterMisogyny · 2014-10-02T17:23:34+00:00

You should be judging women based on their actions, not their speech.

A good girl who's a trial lawyer? Someone who's entire career and identity is based on arguing?

A good girl who gets into dirty talk quickly?

You've got two cases of "talk is cheap" here.

1) She claimed to be a good girl, but then dirty talk. Plus she's now meeting up with the object of her dirty talk.

Hint: She's not a good girl.

2) Dirty talk does not equal dirty sex. Lots of women explore fantasies online with no intention of exploring them in person.

Either way. Pump and dump.

vinchinator · 2014-10-02T18:16:08+00:00

Ive been thinking about this conversation too and i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv kinda thing. any thoughts on that?

You shouldn't think like that. Personalities are malleable, constantly changing throughout life. The more you live out a personality, the more normal it becomes to you. "Just being yourself" does not exist. There is simply what you portray yourself as and how others perceive you. That's it.

You are maturing your previous beta thought processes to ones that are more adaptive to the world you live in. That is a good thing.

choc_is_back · 2014-10-02T17:27:37+00:00

Shame that it escalated so much over text in a way - without the possibility to actually make it happen right there in that atmosphere.

Expect to have to build up rapport again from the start, as if those texts never happen. But no worries it'll be fun. One point to think about, as not many beginners do: LOGISTICS! Are you practically set up for the best case scenario? (i.e. meeting close to your place, where you got wine or whatever and no flatmates or whatever)

TheYoungPatriarch · Thu Oct 2 18:43:17 2014 UTC

If you've read the Art of Seduction, you should know that some of the key things you have to do is intentionally keep her off balance and catching up to you, while displaying high value always.

Regardless of what you may think or feel about "not knowing this woman" if you have already made contact, established some rapport, and the person that you see on date night is indeed the person you were talking to via POF, you can assume that you are familiar with her because the object of your interactions with her are seductive in nature... end goal being getting laid.

In short, if you've laid one, you laid them all.

The very first "Hello" should not be awkward at all. You know the potential for sexual innuendo and how she responds to sly application of game so you should act as if this your natural state. i.e. continue with familiarity, sexual innuendo, game from the very first interaction.

If you really want to be impressive I suggest this: At the place of meeting show up a little later than her. Spot her from afar and walk up to her (back straight, head up, shoulders square, insert swagger). At this point if she tries to get your attention or whatnot give her strong eye contact, a sly smile and a nod. You don't have to maintain eye contact until you are within talking distance (6 steps). When you are in talking distance you should give strong eye contact, a smile and you must walk calmly and intently right up to her while giving a familiar greeting. My personal favorite is "Hey (name), fancy meeting you here." You need to greet her from far enough away so that the "fomal/informal" greeting protocol is completed before you are within her personal space bubble. Continue towards her and when she is close enough to grab, gently grab her arms above the elbow and pull her towards you (grab her love handles if you are feeling more sexual) at this point you need to deliver another coy line. What you say doesn't really matter as much as the calm, collected, and dominant way you say it. You can even pay her a pseudo-compliment like "I didn't expect you to look as good as your pictures... You're a hottie, (name)."

What this does is it sets the tone for the rest of the date. Notice how you should casually drop her name whenever it makes sense to do so. Its slightly condescending, and it also serves the purpose of establishing familiarity and rapport.

Take care to maintain frame and avoid being cross-examined by her to determine if you meet her laundry list of specifications. Instead topics of conversation should be introduced naturally. This is hard to do for some, but its simple. You casually highlight interesting topics you would like to discuss during the course of talking about something else.

Just like a conversation would flow between friends, you pick up on little things in talking about one subject, which leads you to prompt discussion about another subject and at the conclusion of a conversation you are not talking about anything remotely related to what was initially brought up. (Which is incidentally how some women and men view the quality of a conversation).

I could go on about this, but I'll just stop here.

The logic chain behind acting familiar is: POF intro-> initial rapport -> AWALT-> transitive property of hoes-> you know her and girls like her.

Entrefut · 2014-10-02T19:17:48+00:00

Go in with no expectations, her extremely overly sexual texts might be a shit test. If you go on the date looking thirsty, she wins. Hold frame, don't even talk about it, act like that shit always happens and you do this sort of stuff all the time. She wants to see how excited you'll get.

Locastor · 2014-10-02T15:21:14+00:00

always been really beta. swallowed TRP about a month ago, read "bang" and "day bang" been listening to "the art of seduction"

It's always cool to read how fast the lies of BP society can be dispelled by the truth of the pill.

trying2bracehumanity · 2014-10-02T17:15:02+00:00

Ive been thinking about this conversation too and i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv kinda thing. any thoughts on that?

I'm currently organizing a 3some, you think I ever thought I'd be the guy to do that? Don't worry, none of us do.

Keep faking it till you're making it and believing it yourself. Become what you dream to be.

Rugnardl · 2014-10-02T20:49:42+00:00

If you've got the nuts for it, open the night with a good strong kiss. It will set her straight about how this night is going to go, show her your dominance, sexuality and above all, that you two are going to have fun. Remember that you have to lead. Don't listen to the other idiots in here saying "I just follow what she does," because she doesn't know why she's doing the things she does. You do know why. You've been reading PUA stuff, so you know the type of role you're supposed to be playing. You have the advantage of knowing how girls respond, and you seem to be pretty forward anyway. Not starting sexually is back pedaling, and it's essentially an immediate shit test that she doesn't even know is happening, but will respond to emotionally anyway. I mean, the girl wants to suck your nut forcibly from your cock. And you want to start the date off with a fucking hug?

Radox_Redux · 2014-10-03T10:39:30+00:00

these women pretend to be nice at first just to have plausible deniability, theyre just waiting for us to allow them to access their depraved sexual desires.

Now pretend that it's not just women, but literally the entire world and congrats... you've attained a higher level of understanding.

Homard80 · 2014-10-02T15:14:46+00:00

You are fine! Just chill.

If she is a Lawyer she will eventually see through your shit anyway.

Make damn sure you got your hobbies in check and that you are keeping that frame up.

You are not an imposter. You are finally not a douche.

dave_is_not_here · 2014-10-02T20:32:59+00:00

This reeks of troll bait.

But, in case it's not:

Ive been thinking about this conversation too and i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv kinda thing. any thoughts on that?

You feel like an imposter because you're thinking in terms of "alpha/beta" instead of "dominant/submissive". I see it everywhere around here. Most of us will never be an Alpha, in the strictest terms, because modern society is organized into groups that are so large it's just statistically unlikely. To be blunt, unless you're part of "the 1%", you're not an Alpha. However, in small social circles it's easy for a lot of us to achieve "Alpha status", but this is only a temporary result of being a generally dominant male in a relatively small group. Throw a singular male B-List celebrity into the club and even the most decorated Red Piller is toast. The next day at work even the most legendary Night Club Alpha is just another card punching chump. Maybe a middle management, even upper management (oooh), card punching chump, but a card punching chump nonetheless.

Stop thinking about Alphas, think of it as being dominant/submissive. It'll still feel like a costume for a while but eventually you'll change and actually become dominant.

tyranus89 · 2014-10-02T16:29:40+00:00

i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv

Fake it til you make it. Best way to be an alpha is to act like one. It'll settle in soon.

The_Psychopath · 2014-10-02T21:01:28+00:00

Texting is not the same as doing, think of it as advertising meant to entice but not exactly representative of the real thing. Burgers in McDonald's ads look immaculate, real McDonald's burgers look like turds scraped off the highway.

DatCisco · 2014-10-02T23:28:22+00:00

Ive been thinking about this conversation too and i still feel like an impostor, like i'm not really an alpha but i play one on tv kinda thing. any thoughts on that?

Looks like you faked it till you made it (and it worked). It feels more natural over time.

svogliate · 2014-10-03T01:33:52+00:00

You have never met this person. Don't develop oneitis.

Let's see what we know about this gal: she's a single mom, a trial lawyer, she likes dirty talk, and she likes unprotected dick in her mouth. 1 for 4 ain't bad; number 4 suggests she probably has herpes. Single mothers and female lawyers are the two unhappiest classes of people I have encountered; I predict you aren't going to like this woman once you get to know her.

After you assure yourself there aren't any visible sores, you can kiss this gal hello on the lips, don't even bother saying hello. Don't fuck around; you want to bang this woman, not marry her. Get a drink and then take her somewhere you can fuck.

tindermaster1986 · 2014-10-06T13:09:26+00:00

POF has the dirtiest women around.

eazy_ · 2014-10-06T19:01:59+00:00

Boy: Hi

Girl: Hi!

Boy: You smell like my grandma!

Girl: What! That’s not very nice.

Boy: I love my grandma

Girl: Oh ok! Well that is adorable. What is your name?

Boy: You’re…goofy! walks away

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/the-young-alpha-male/

birdhot · Thu Oct 2 18:56:29 2014 UTC

10/10 on that text op.

but it's so hard to tell whether shes just a DPPer or really wants it.

its all about reading her body language. if shes nervous/fearful when you meet, then go slow, run the whole song and dance and build her back up to the point where she is comfortable and you can say: 'so, about that text you sent me. was that for real?' this may be several hours in, after activities, etc.

on the other hand, it could be very fast. if she's comfortable once she sees you and exhibiting positive body language - expectant insistent eye contact, running fingers through her hair, breathy, can't stop laughing - then cancel all plans and skip to 'dessert' as described above. it's essential you at the earliest possible moment go in for the kill, just up to you to time it. but it literally could be five minutes. wait enough time for her to be comfortable w/ you as a person, and fuck the shit out of her. just based on those texts, there's a damn good chance thats what she wants.

i took out one very flirty plate but was like you trying to balance the alpha with the risk of scaring her off and getting nothing. i took her to a movie for a day date. within 30 minutes i knew she wanted it and said fuck this movie. as i pulled her out of the theater suddenly she can't get her hands off me. took her back to my place and the deal was sealed at 3:30 in the afternoon, plus many more times that night. your anecdote reminds me of it because in retrospect, i didnt need to waste 20 bucks. i could have driven her straight to the apartment, and she probably would have O'ed even harder and more than she did, b/c it would have been 100 percent alpha.

Grainslol · 2014-10-02T16:15:34+00:00

Keep approaching other girls until you bang. Most likely the best advice I can give because I'm stupid.

eazy_ · 2014-10-02T20:16:39+00:00

It won't be awkward if you don't make it awkard. Let that negative thinking and self talk go.

Greet her with a neg. Then hug her with your hands around her waist.

1) Choice neg-hits can be used as opening "lines", or can be used during a conversation.

Examples of Choice Neg-Hits:

"Hey, I like that outfit. pause for her response Yeah, my (mother/aunt/grandmother) has one just like it!" This one is a classic.
"You have a very pretty face, but you should use less makeup. Makeup should be used to enhance a woman’s beauty, not hide it."
"You have really beautiful hair. pause You should grow it (shorter/longer). It would go much better with the shape of your face."
"That outfit is really sharp. pause It would look much better if it were (some other color)."
"Nice outfit! pause I saw another woman here wearing the exact same thing!" Women HATE this. (Personally, if a guy was wearing the same thing as me, I’d just think he had good taste.)
"Have you highlighted your hair? pause for her response Why do women ruin their luxurious hair with highlights?"
"You have very pretty (blue/brown/black/green/hazel) eyes. pause You shouldn’t use (so much/so little) eye shadow. It detracts from the color of your eyes."

--http://www.sosuave.com/articles/neghits.htm

AntixD · 2014-10-02T17:22:16+00:00

bang is by roosh? and "the art of seduction" is by whom?

watersign · 2014-10-03T03:37:46+00:00

she isnt an angel, shes probably fucking other guys too. cmon man

Title	FR: The dirtiest angel I've ever met
Author	The_BitterTruth
Upvotes	132
Comments	102
Date	October 2, 2014 2:58 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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