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Guy gets divorced. Get's quality sex from plates without even trying. Ex wife now shaves her poon and comes after sex. Hamsters afterwards.

Modified_Hackware
January 8, 2014
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Title Guy gets divorced. Get's quality sex from plates without even trying. Ex wife now shaves her poon and comes after sex. Hamsters afterwards.
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Upvotes 242
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Date January 8, 2014 4:07 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 123 points124 points125 points 12 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link

The top comment is equally telling. A woman discussing a similar experience with her ex-hubby (emphasis mine):

My only idea is kind of what happened with me and my ex. We were together for almost two years, but the last 6 months were awful. Lots of fighting and I never wanted sex with him. I started to hate him and treat him like crap so I finally ended it. Later we started talking again as friends and soon enough, we were having sex. It was hotter and more enjoyable. I'm not sure why, but there was no pressure. I could do what I wanted and didn't have to stick around to cuddle or talk. I could fuck and leave. I also knew he was trying to get with another girl and that itself was hot. I know it's fucked up but it was a turn on for me.

Pre-selection and jealousy. They are the bellows to a woman's sexual fire.

[–]Modified_Hackware 48 points49 points50 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. Hamsters cannot change the laws of attraction.

[–]PiemanMk2 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, I'm new here, what does "hamsters" mean?

Edit: I am not a smart man. Thanks all!

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Redawareness 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Men have hamsters too. We just go in reverse.

Women: Feel, take action, rationalize Men: Rationalize, take action, feel.

[–]morealphaeveryday 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is the deepest thing I have thought all day. (I'm also shitfaced on a train stuck in the Chicago suburbs due to the weather, so it may not be too deep).

[–]Haraklus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, all humans take action, then feel, then rationalize. Neuroscience ftw.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LURK MOAR.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]thecajunone 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Men hamster too.

[–]Synthtwo 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And it's our duty to call them out on it.

[–]5F42DE47BC -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...and?

[–]real-boethius 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what is behind the feminist view that "reality is a social construction" and "gender is a social construction". If I feel it, it is true.

[–]insaneyoshi4 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Glossary, sidebar. Check /u/Blue_Gene's comment

[–]Evers89 35 points36 points37 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

He was also detached from her. Neediness contributed to that vagina drying up I'm sure.

She lost respect for him till he had options and detachment. TRP Win.

[–]1Zackcid 40 points41 points42 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm realizing more and more how fucking huge social proof is. It plays a major part in triggering attraction. You could be a fucking nerd, but as soon as she sees two chicks in your arms, it's on. It's like women have this inherent, mutual trust in each other that says that if one or more women have "approved" a guy, then he must surely be an attractive guy.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol it's not a "mutual trust in each other" that women have.

It's a mutual competitive drive to destroy each other and take everything they own, i.e. the man.

[–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, at first I was laughing at how stupid your comment was, but then I took an extra minute to actually think deeply about it and consider it. You might actually be right, thinking back on all the times I've seen it in action. It's very subtle and easily misunderstood. I've always known that women are by far the most competitive sex (despite mainstream telling us that it's men) and your comment complements this truth completely.

[–]Jaereth11 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is so true.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only advice any men need

1.More women equals more women. Start with 1, turn that into 2, and snowball from there. Can't get 6s? Start with 5s until you can leap up then go for 7s.

2.preselection plays right into jealousy. they go hand in hand.

[–]5F42DE47BC 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all about status for them. Status is gained by one-upping other women.

Sometimes I think they don't even like dating or sex, they just want the status.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]RedPillScare 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you applying MMSL-style game ?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]lucidvivid0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

MMSL = Athol Kay's Married Man Sex Life

[–]1Zackcid 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Anybody else cringe whenever women try to talk like men and say shit like:

I could fuck and leave. I could do what I wanted and didn't have to stick around to cuddle or talk.

Putting aside the fact that it is men who fuck women and not the other way around, some say it to try to be cool and "chill", while others say it because they've found men who've said stuff like that in the past to be attractive. It's just fake most of the time. Sort of like imagining a scenario where a gal goes: "alright ladies! Let's go out and find ourselves plenty of cock!" Just doesn't sound right and it's infidel to their biology.

[–]ubrayj02 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The average condition of women in general is not the condition for all women individually.

[–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, NAWALT has been drilled into my brain since birth, no need to repeat, it's already implied.

[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

About as natural as a man saying: "Yeah I just prefer to have ok sex with just one women for the rest of my life"

[–]HalfwySandwch 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It does sound weird to me, but I assume that it is just shifting vernacular and I will get used to it.

[–]psycho-logical -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Generally men and women are fucking each other. If it doesn't feel like this you are fucking the wrong women.

[–]1Zackcid -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No. You can't see the wider context. I'm speaking in terms of the entire sexual encounter, not just specifically the intercourse. I'm speaking in terms of which person is the initiator, which person leads it to sex, and which person is generally leading the sexual act (he's telling her which position, etc.)

It's clearly the man.

[–]GhostRider22 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In this day in age its the woman just as often.... Psycho is right, you be fucking the wrong women.....

[–]ametalshard -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't understand your point at all. I've had close female friends who speak like that... who gives a fuck?

It "just doesn't sound right"? Great argument.

[–]1Zackcid -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's my argument? I don't have any damn argument. I'm just here to share how cringe-worthy it is when women say that: If you don't think it is, then so be it. "Who gives a fuck?"

[–]GhostRider22 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Jesus no wonder so many people here are having problems getting laid, they have no understanding of the modern woman at all. Women been fucking around with ease for 40 or 50 years now. Most women I know my age have absolutely no interest in a relationship. They fuck and leave.

Oh yeah, and plenty of women are the ones doing the fucking. The ignorant sexism in this sub has made be already unsub.

[–]1Zackcid -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Peace out. You and your sensitive heart will be dearly missed.

[–]GhostRider22 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just because you have low self esteem, and are intimidated by strong women does not mean I have a sensitive heart. It simply means im not beta like you. I am comfortable with who I am, you should try it.

[–]1Zackcid -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Go! Your fair maidens await you on the other side of that monitor. Rescue them, and bask in that pussy! A warrior like you deserves it.

[–]GhostRider22 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Seriously man could you sound any more butt hurt?

[–]1Zackcid -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm the one sounding butthurt? Seriously? Do you have no self-awareness?

[–]GhostRider22 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are so fucking adorable.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know what the fuck a wedding ring does to a relationship but everything is fine for years until it suddenly gets put on. Then suddenly the wedding ring comes off and the two are unmarried but fucking each other and all is back right with the world.

WTF man..

[–]Haraklus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it seriously is magic.

[–]W-Z-R 55 points56 points57 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Legally bound is a turn off

Gotta love the bullshit rationalisations, with those subtle hints of "The patriarchy is what made your wifey less sexual"-so glad I found this subreddit. Everything. Just. Makes. Sense.

[–]RedPillScare 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Legally bound is only the most-visible correlation to saharan pussy syndrome.

Societal norms tell everyone that marriage is like home base in the game of sexual marketplace tag. You're safe there. You don't need to make any effort. So husbands stop whatever game they'd been exercising. Wives let their looks go. Everyone loses satisfaction. And it's due to a perceived lack of competition. It's completely false. A mirage.

After the divorce, he gets social proof, and it suddenly rains in the desert. Then she's driving an hour to get railed by cock that other women want.

[–]W-Z-R 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Legally bound is only the most-visible correlation to saharan pussy syndrome.

True but this isn't to do with any "patriarchal oppression" (as those schmucks think) it's simply because the women no longer needs to make the effort in her mind.

[–]RedPillScare 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think we have niggling details of difference but agree on the major theme: if he appears to have no other options, she loses attraction.

[–]luxury_banana 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What those people fail to mention of course is that it's women who push for marriage. If it's so awful for them, then why are they the ones who insist on it.

What's happened here is that she got the X year itch/new cock urge and divorced only to find that she didn't have the kinds of options she did when she married him in her 20s. Post-divorce, she probably screwed a few guys that were willing to have sex with a woman in her mid 40s and decided her ex-husband was a better option than what she could attract. Now she's a lot more grateful to have his time.

There's also the pre-selection and jealousy elements-- which is why women think them getting with some other guy will somehow make a guy they kind of sort of still want jealous and try to get them back but most of the time doesn't. Too many women think guys operate just like them in their sexual preferences and proclivities in this way. Another arena you'll see this in is the whole income thing. These career women are baffled why guys who make even more than them don't give a shit about how much money they make, because after all that's a large part of what they're looking for when it comes to serious relationships.

[–]FugitiveAlpha 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget the rest of the picture here. Undoubtedly the man is more alpha now. He has his power back (the ability to leave) and he's banging other chicks, which is probably giving him a great deal of confidence.

While I do not refute the wisdom you're imparting, there is definitely a lot of "who wants an older lady when i can have a younger one" stuff, but I've seen this with very attractive women in their mid to late 20s as well. Remember, going from alpha to beta is like your wife going from a models body to 300 lbs, just unattractive. If you leave her and she gets her model body back, your going to want to play "kill the cat" at least as much as in the old days.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being nice makes sense, but being nice doesn't work. I like things that work, the better they function the more I like them.

[–]xiko 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Sad and true at the same time.

[–]Kepaso 106 points107 points108 points 12 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

TRP basics, yet most of the people in this discussion are unaware of the dynamics of SMV. Sigh. Women are'nt more sexual in their 40's, they are more desesparate. They don't have an orbiters list like they did in their 20's, they are alone and their dating life suck. This guy's wife probably tried dating but found out that it's though out there, and now she is seeing her ex spinning plates, bam! instant preselection value for him, his SMV is now higher than hers, wich was the opposite when they were together. This is what dread game, preselection and having a high SMV does : within their marriage she didnt even dared to touch him ounce a month, now she is driving one hour to show her shaved parts and new lingerie.

[–]1Zackcid 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I always laugh at feel-good bullshit like "women in their 30s and 40s are more sexual, adventurous, etc." Not only is it society's way of telling older women that "noo.. being wrinkled isn't as bad as they all say. Would it make you feel better if we spread the lie that you're actually more fertile and more sexual than your 21 y/o counterpart?" No, they just don't have a long laundry list of options so they're actually forced to be individuals with things going for them. When she was 21, she didn't have to learn how to be better in bed cuz 2500 guys would be willing to bang her even if she laid there like a sack of potatoes!

[–]HalfwySandwch 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

oof, dead fish sex is rough no matter how hot she is, I usually don't go back to that.

[–]RedPillScare 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I'd rather have an enthusiastic but less attractive partner than a hot fish.

[–]DaedalusFinch 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I just counter by dead fishing myself and staring them down. Always staring. Never moving.

[–]HalfwySandwch 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha never tried that, I will next time, maybe will freak them out enough to add some life to the show.

[–]Kepaso 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is what i found on the manosphere about this subject. link

[–]GhostRider22 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fyi, the best sex i've ever had was with women in their early to mid 30s.

Hands down.... Has nothing to do with them being desperate either....

[–]drallcom3 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh, a hot 21yo is just good to raise your SMV.

An average women who puts some effort in it is so much satisfying. Of course it would be better if she's hot, but where should she learn how to be good at sex?

[–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Banging a hot 21yo doesn't actually do much for your SMV, unless you're a celebrity getting caught on cameras all the time with that dime piece on your arms. Generally, the act of having sex with a woman doesn't increase your SMV unless others are aware of it. "I banged Meagan Fox, everybody!"

An average women who puts some effort in it is so much satisfying. Of course it would be better if she's hot, but where should she learn how to be good at sex?

Getting good at sex was just an example. It could have been anything from cooking, to maintaining a good conversation, to having a nice personality. But to answer, hot women have an abundance of sexual options. Honing her skills can come easily if she puts those sessions to good use.

[–]captshady 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

45 here, can confirm. There are a bunch of "40 somethings" (fucking hate that bullshit term) just on the prowl for cock. It's not even a challenge. I've lost over 100 lbs, but at my peak at 420 lbs (40 yrs old) it was a piece of cake to get laid by women my age. I never asked a single one, and while using TRP technique or MGTOW without knowing it, they came at me fast and hard.

I make no bones about being in a relationship, and live with my g/f. I still get hit on by old friends, and a LOT by HER friends.

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[–]captshady 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, bad marriage, and a junk food addiction. Bad news.

[–]DasWood 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most people who are morbidly obese suffer some kind of severe depression.

[–]captshady 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. I know my marriage was torture, and practically empty of sex. I'm still fat, but happier, and healthier. Hope to continue losing.

[–]the_real_chronos 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck man. Keep it coming ( :

[–]salami_inferno 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just remember how much better you feel about yourself now than how you did 100 pounds ago, keep it up and the feeling only gets better. I hope you keep on track.

[–]drallcom36 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Just out of curiosity: Where do you meet those women? A freaky 40yo is still on my to-do list.

[–]captshady 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, being in that age group, they're at most social events, and Facebook is rife with them. I've met plenty at clubs us older guys go to. The only real thing to take caution on, are which ones let themselves get flabby & which ones didn't. They both come on just as strong, you basically get your pick.

[–]mrpoopistan 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are a bunch of "40 somethings" (fucking hate that bullshit term) just on the prowl for cock.

As a 35 y.o. guy who can still get women in their early 20s, these women mostly piss me off. It's not that I abhor what they're doing, but they cop a serious attitude. They know they've basically surrendered, but now they act like you're obligated to fuck them if they proposition you.

Not my favorite female demographic.

[–]captshady 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is that, for sure. But very little hamstering, and they get freaky in bed. I've gamed a few early 30's when I was at my heaviest, but the late 30's early 40 wall hitters put in serious effort.

[–]mrpoopistan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't like a woman who comes on hard.

And 40+ y.o. women get bad. They think they have every right to initiate kino before they've even said hello. They think it's OK to keep badgering you after you've told them to fuck off. The only time you will ever see me get up and walk away from anyone is when some 40 y.o. chick decides to just lay it on hard and won't go away.

They're disrespectful as shit and they seem oblivious to all the things they complain that men used to do to them when they're younger.

[–]DasWood 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ehh. I disagree. Women do get more horny as they approach complete infertility and they tend to stay just as horny.

[–]Kepaso 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i don t know man, but it's possible. I tried to find a reliable source on the internet for this but did nt found one. What i found though is that indeed women report to have more fantaisies, intercourse and orgasms in their 30's, but no scientifc studies discovered that there is a ''peak'' at this age. I read that women felt more confortable with their bodies and yada yada, so they are more at ease to explore their sexuality.

But yeah, if someone could post a link to a study for the actual 30's-40's peak it would be nice.

[–]the_red_scimitar 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can also attest to this. The women I date who most want to fuck, and really love doing it without any games, are in their 40's (my age range). I have many times dated 20-somethings (in the last 3 years) and they NEVER (with one exception) have this drive. And the one that did was also far more fucked up in the head than any of the older ladies.

It's hardly got the value of a real study, but let's say roughly 10 women in each category (25-32, 41-49). Most of the 2nd category are positively eager to fuck (if you are good at it), and give as good as they get. Most of the first seem to want to be eager, but aren't really. Perhaps they have more of an agenda (i.e. marriage, kids, LTRs) then the older one's I've dated.

[–]redditaccountpls 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Ever seen a woman before she hits menopause? All those hormone imbalances, jesus christ. Take a girl on her period (insanely horny one minute, not so horny the next) and multiply that by 50.

[–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As a guy in that age range, who regularly has dated both same age (even a bit older) and much much younger (not far off half my age), I can say without hesitation that the 40's ladies are almost always more sexual. Rampant multiple orgasms starting rapidly and lasting the entire time? Check. Eager to do whatever I want to get me off? Check. Skills? Check? Knows what they like? Check.

The younger ones actually seem to try harder, but get less result. Exceptions? Maybe one in each category (younger, older), but definitely seems more typical as I state above.

It's no myth, it's just my experiences.

Edit: Also, older ones never are looking for kids, and most never want to get married (again).

[–]-RobotDeathSquad- 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where is a good place to meet the older women? Also what kind of approach works best? direct?

[–]BooksofMagic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Try the 'over 30' clubs to start. You should at least be able to find some people at these places that can recommend better places to go. I know of one near me but I live in Canada.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would they want to get married again... they already have half of what some other guy made.

[–]the_red_scimitar 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some do, or more, or less. Really, the ones that don't want to get married are, I think, just over it, at least for the time being. I've never actually questioned it, but it would be an interesting question to ask.

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[–]redpillgirl 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what happened. She was feeling old and undesired and thought she could be treated like she was in her 20's but went out and found that's not how shit works in your 40's.

Now she sees he's a valuable commodity because other women like him and "oh all those nice things he did for me that these new guys wont do."

Can you imagine if she would have thought about her shit WHILE they were married? How can people be so ignorant to their own thoughts?

[–]the_red_scimitar 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Unless she really has let herself go, women in their 40s have no trouble riding the carousel at all. Even with much younger guys. But they seem to really want a more quality guy, even as a FWB.

And, at least in So Cal, a lot of divorced women in their early/mid 40's have done a LOT of work (hit the gym, yoga, diet) and look incredible - fit, very, very toned, tight skin. Frankly, a lot of girls half their age look like crap in comparison.

[–]strangestdude 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I think your perspective is due to your location.

When I watch 'real housewives' shows in the US I'm shocked how good women in their 40's can look. In the UK where I live, I assure you women in that age bracket don't look anywhere near that good.

[–]redpillgirl 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not denying this is true. There are many 40 year olds that look better than half the University girls in my city.

That being said, the game changes significantly in those 20 years and those who have not been single and growing with the changes, often find it overwhelmingly stacked against them. As opposed to when they were 20 and men were still dumb enough to do all the work with no expectations.

[–]luxury_banana 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not "The US" it's a wealthy part of the US. These women can afford plastic surgery, the best in skin treatments, the best in help getting fit. They still don't look as good as a woman half their age that takes care of herself but maybe better than some that don't. Even then they're still not gonna get the same kinds of guys they could 20 years ago, because why would such a guy bother with them when he can do better unless he has a fetish. What they're gonna get if they go for younger guys is a slightly thirsty guy who may be able to bang girls his own age with a lot of effort who is looking at her as easy access with no strings attached.

For the other like 95%+ of women that shit isn't happening. They may be able to fix their body shape if they're willing to put in at least half of the dedication men do in that, but they're not gonna be able to fix much else except maybe their unfortunately aged breasts that may now look slightly sad. They just don't have the money to throw at it that women living in Southern California would.

[–]strangestdude 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not "The US" it's a wealthy part of the US.

I thought my understanding of that was implicit in my reference to the 'reality show' featuring upper class women.

[–]MRAfront 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The higher the income, the more option and ability to stay in shape she has, this is why you'd find land whales on every ghetto.

Notice how in every upper class area the gyms, yoga classes and healthy food is abundant.

[–]the_red_scimitar 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are very right. In Los Angeles, there's a lot of competition among divorced/divorcing women in their 40's. They've been cut loose, often from sexless marriage, and want to sow some wild oats. And while there certainly are many who let themselves go (as there tends to be in America generally), a surprising number are quite literally the most physically fit they've ever been. One I'm seeing could (and does) easily pass for her late 20's, without trying. Perfect skin, incredibly delicious body, gorgeous face, incredible eclectic fashion sense, youthful attitudes. She's 43, and makes a living as a model.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes TRP goes too far in describing the inescapableness of the wall. A taken care of, tuned up, 40 year old woman beats a 24 year old swamp donkey. That's true, but very few women are capable of being attractive at 40. Of course, in almost all cases, they were also, far more attractive at 24. So even though they outperform some of their younger peers, they still get slaughtered by their younger self in terms of SMV. I've seen quite a few very attractive 40 year olds and I've fucked a few of them. They may look young, but they don't feel young. They just feel old - I can't really describe it beyond their skin has no elasticity. Their tits are either fake or look like gym socks when the bra comes off. Their ass is dumpy when the spanx come off. It's really hard to beat youth.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is because men can learn to avoid mistakes by seeing and doing what other men do.

Women dont avoid mistakes. They drive into the wall going 100MPH despite their mothers and grandmothers giving them good advice to TURN THE FUCKING WHEEL they think they know better.

[–]mrpoopistan 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My wife becoming more sexual I am not sure why. Wife and I have no plans on getting back together so trying to "lock me down" doesn't add up. I am thinking she might have fucked another guy and that got her all sexual again?

I don't know and why is dating for me so much easier? ( I am not rich either)

Poor guy. He's . . . so . . . very . . . close . . .

[–]648262 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really like this example because no one involved sees what's happening. Wonderful to observe and the science becomes much more certain by it.

Thanks for sharing!

[–]Modified_Hackware 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Women around my own age are the easiest to sleep with and are much more eager to please. When I was younger I always thought "am I good enough, will I last long enough." Now the tables have turned.

Seems reality for him didn't match up to expectations. For the better in this case. But very red pill in practice.

Sad part is seeing the comments all groping around for the answers.

It's the sand that slips from their fingers - the image that vanishes when they turn to look at it. Part of me wants to pity them.

[–]ItsYourHandInMine 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They are all like Cypher not Neo, they prefer their fantasy to reality.

[–]648262 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are not even there. They are having a glimpse at reality without knowing its reality.

[–]BooksofMagic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No - they are like the countless nameless masses in that movie that don't even recognize the truth when it's in right in front of them.

[–]1Zackcid 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How did they respond to your "classic textbook /r/TheRedPill" comment?

[–]Modified_Hackware 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He ignored it, and refutes others who are explaining it to him.

Typical reddit to be honest. TRP can't be evangelized nor should it be - individual has to be ready for it. This guy got to the edge of the diving board and won't look down it seems.

[–]BooksofMagic 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard to see past the programming unless you have a reason too. If his brain tells him it's steak, then it's steak, even if it's only tofu and bovril.

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[–]Dr_Nikk 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm lost explain please?

[–]Gyaltso 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's saying these guys see the truth but don't know the explanation for it

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[–]Dr_Nikk 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh. This explains a lot. Thanks. Definitely explain my ex-girlfriend's behavior years after the break-up.

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[–]redpillgirl 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That thread is a big fat advertisement for why guys should avoid getting married.

Unless she's a unicorn or a foreign citizen, don't even think about it.

ftfy

[–]xiko 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He said she was a good wife and the kids grew up. Doesn't seem bad. I do want to pass my genes away.

[–]redpillgirl 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

While I can't comment on the children aspect, I can comment on why the marriage is a bad idea. For at least the time the OP is willing to admit, there was little to no sex simply because she said so when he could be getting it when he wanted.

I personally am not willing to sacrifice my sex life to marriage if there is no need. All it means is that if we break up, it's going to be more expensive.

[–]xiko 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont disagree with that at all. I will have to have a very good frame when I enter a long term relationship to have children.

[–]Laughing_Jelly_Bean 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The entire situation can be explained by her solipsism. Even if the divorce is amicable, it still takes its toll on the Ego. She's feeling a little down on herself and need a pick-me-up. The ex-husband was the easiest to get sex from, I'm assuming she is trying to (or is) bed many men. Once her Ego bounces back, she'll drop him like a sack of potatoes.

After the divorce, he should have refused her sex.

[–]1PaulRivers10 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

After the divorce, he should have refused her sex.

What, exactly, would he have gained by doing that?

Frankly, aside from not really desiring him in the first place and not wanting him to initiate, everything she's done seems to have benefitted him. They had and raised kids - he passed his genes onto the next generation. They parted relatively amicably according to his post. When nothing was going on with the two of them, they got divorced - and now he's having more and better sex than he was before.

You're carrying around way to much bitterness and vengefullness. That attitude is more appropriate for an ex-wife that was refusing to have sex with him but cheating with someone else, or had another man's child while they were married or something.

She divorced him, and now his life is better than it was while they were married - why would he want to refuse her sex if she's not making a big deal about him sleeping with other women?

[–]Laughing_Jelly_Bean 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I predict that things will not end well, and that's why he should have avoided sex with his ex. These kinds of things get very messy very fast, and you can't just "next" your ex-wife and the mother of your children.

No bitterness here. I wasn't suggesting it as a way to punish her, but rather as a way to protect himself.

Of course, we'll never know, because I doubt that OP will keep us updated.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, if you didn't mean he should "punish" her, that makes more sense.

I don't agree with you though. Had the divorce been contensious, I would have, but when it's basically "we're both really, really, really bored with each other", I think there's a lot less drama.

[–]Modified_Hackware 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amicable break up with my ex.

She immediately went off and had a 2 MMF threesomes with entirely different people, fucked a few old high school flames, chased me for sex then got engaged 8 weeks later - made out like she was a good girl to this guy, married, has doubled in size in 18 months.

I'm sure they're happy. Just so long as he never finds out she was getting DP the night before she slept with him and brought out the "It was just meant to be." routine. (I know this because she was telling me like I was interested).

[–]Vodkas21 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's nothing a little RedPill philosophy can't explain. Her smv has plummeted whilst his has risen and she's realised it probably after a little struggle in the dating market and preselection if she's noticed her ex-husband is doing a lot better. As a man this doesn't necessarily mean you can be a slouch and do nothing to improve yourself.

I wonder how he did in the divorce.

[–]Letesse 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm near enough same age as this guy...can't imagine getting it on with a women my age, Christ I'd need a splint!

[–]Husseinstatue 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I really want to know what TBP thinks about this. Everything about OP's post speaks true to TRP philosophy.

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[–]ArtilleryCamel 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At first I assumed that subreddit's purpose was to attempt to break down our logic.

Nope, 100% trolling and circle-jerking about how wrong and stupid we are.

[–]Husseinstatue 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just wanted to see if they offered any form of counterargument other than "They're all virgins" or "This is morally in the wrong"

[–]luxury_banana 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you care what a bunch of circlejerkers with too much time who can't put forth any substantive arguments think.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Mistake #1 was getting married to begin with. This guy could have been sexing it up throughout his 30s.

Committing to a woman and marrying her is inherently unattractive. You've submitted. You've shown weakness. You've taken yourself off the market for other women, and you've given this one woman complete control over your sex life and full access to your resources under threat of divorce. It's what she thought she wanted, but five seconds after she has that, you're not attractive any more, and you're sexless roommates.

When you only have access to one woman, and no other woman wants you, that makes you a loser, and unattractive. The second you're attracting other women, she's interested again.

[–]Promac 37 points38 points39 points 12 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

TRP is about getting control of yourself and not giving it away to women. Just because a man decides to get married and have kids does not make him a beta.

Your attitude is like a militant feminist. Completely over-compensated. You need to dial it back a bit.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Okay. I'll dial it back one notch.

Committing to a woman and marrying her costs you points. You are less attractive for doing so and had better be compensating for this loss in other ways. Because you've taken yourself off the market for other women, and you've given this one woman complete control over your sex life and full access to your resources under threat of divorce. This is something most women and many men think they want, but when it finally happens, the man's less attractive for it and has a lifetime of serious work to do to maintain his relationship with his wife, with dire consequences if he ever gets complacent.

[–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Any LTR has this. There is very sound RP strategy for maintaining frame and all that in an LTR. Unless one has a fully open relationship in the LTR, then plate spinning is out of the picture.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

An LTR can be ended in about 3 seconds, and you can have another woman at your fingertips. It's not exactly honorable, but it's consequence-free.

Ending a marriage costs you a crippling amount of wealth and resources.

It's not just sexual access you're sacrificing with marriage. You're baring your throat and giving your wife full access to your resources, under threat of divorce. You're completely at her mercy, which costs you serious attraction. You can still lead and control the marriage with enough other stuff going on, yes, but the second you marry, you take a huge step back from the attractive badass she's been chasing for years. Suddenly, she doesn't have to have sex with you, cook dinner, clean anything, go to work, stay in shape, or anything else you'd prefer your wife do. Ideally, she will because she respects you, but you don't hold any leverage any more. Your only out is divorce. Eventually, a woman will realize that the only thing at stake is you being pleased, or you being not pleased, and that you're powerless. Why's she have to please you if she has full control of the sex and the money?

[–]the_red_scimitar 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ending a marriage can. I've ended two, without any crippling damage.

Of course, cohabitation of any kind has all these liabilities. In some states, after a period of time, it is considered marriage for the purpose of law. In some states, if a man becomes very close with, say, the children of a woman he is seeing, even if they don't cohabitate, over a period of time can be considered responsible for the children, and made to pay support. Get that - even without any marriage, without cohabitation - merely showing a deep connection with the children.

So the situation is more fraught with potential danger than even you've stated.

That said, I'll repeat: RP philosophy on LTR/marriage is pretty clear, and several married, popular writers in the manosphere discuss it in depth. Yes, just like ANY relationship, you continue to hold your frame and what-not. I read one article on how to maintain competition anxiety in a marriage. Sure, things are different, but since you have to maintain your frame, continue to be in shape, etc., if you are spinning plates, then the difference isn't so great.

Patrice also talks about LTRs in a number of his broadcasts/podcasts. One of his main things is that you always have to be willing to walk (and really be so - not just say it or pretend to oneself) - and that one's SO has to know that, and be convinced of it.

There's lots more, of course.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An LTR can be ended in about 3 seconds, and you can have another woman at your fingertips. It's not exactly honorable, but it's consequence-free.

As if it is tough to go find a new plate in a day if you needed to... no need to spin plates in a LTR unless you are going to use dread game, which I feel should be reserved for big moments.

[–]Promac4 points 12 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm less attractive to whom? Other women? You've obviously never been married or if you have then it was a miserable one. There's no better forbidden fruit than a happily married man. Sex during marriage can get to levels of intimacy and excitement that you will never attain with casual women - unless they have serious issues or you are win-the-lottery-lucky or pay.

But, you seem to think that the currency in this market is sex and that whoever "controls" access to it has all the power. Sex is something that can only be provided by women. They always control access to it. Do you really think that sex is the ultimate goal in life and that we should structure our entire lives around attaining it? You're still chasing women. But sex is freely available, all over the world. It's not hard to get unless you're a beta. If you think otherwise, you're a beta. You need bigger goals in life I think.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm less attractive to whom? Other women?

To your wife. The only woman that matters if you've decided to be exclusive with her.

You've obviously never been married or if you have then it was a miserable one. There's no better forbidden fruit than a happily married man.

I'm married now. It's not ideal, but it started getting better around the time I got more comfortable telling my wife to fuck off when she's in ungrateful, disrespectful bitch mode. And when my wife got worried that I might be sleeping with a co-worker. (I wouldn't shit where I eat, but the worry is enough to do wonders). There's nothing less attractive to other women than an unhappily married man. People can just smell that you're a battered shell of a human being with a shitty work life and a shitty home life, who isn't worth knowing.

you seem to think that the currency in this market is sex and that whoever "controls" access to it has all the power. Sex is something that can only be provided by women. They always control access to it.

Yes, women always control sex, but when you're unmarried and one woman denies you sex, you can go find another woman. When you're married and your wife denies you sex, you can't. You had a lot more power and a lot more options before you relinquished all of that by getting married.

Do you really think that sex is the ultimate goal in life and that we should structure our entire lives around attaining it?

Nah. But the fact remains that a guy who can't even get sex from his own wife is the biggest chump ever. All guys want sex, at least some of the time. If you're a guy who can't get what you want, you're a loser. If you can't get sex when you want it from your own wife and endure a near-sexless or sexless marriage, you also probably aren't the kind of guy who excels in business, wows the universe with your social prowess, and gets everything else he wants.

[–]Promac 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it started getting better around the time I got more comfortable telling my wife to fuck off when she's in ungrateful, disrespectful bitch mode

Now you're on the right track but your perspective is a little skewed. What you need to take from that is this:

it started getting better around the time I stopped being a bitch and stopped letting my wife dominate me. Now I'm taking control of myself and she can see that so I'm more attractive to her.

I'm attractive to my wife because I'm not a cringing wimp who lets her walk over me. She knows full well that I don't stand for that shit because I'm in control of myself and my life.

the fact remains that a guy who can't even get sex from his own wife is the biggest chump ever

Again - almost right but you need to spin it around it a bit. A guy who can't get sex from his wife isn't married, he's a slave. A guy who chooses to marry someone who respects him and then acts like a man in his own home, taking control of his life and not being dominated by his own wife - being equals, ideally - that man can have (not get) sex any time he damn well pleases.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

if you marry you cant walk away from her that easily. if you do, you have to pay a big price.

you lose power. and because you cant walk away just like that, she can get away with more.

[–]Promac 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You still seem to be assuming that all women are bitches and all marriages are a form of confinement. If you're going in with eyes open and are confident enough in yourself to be at least an equal then you don't have the problems you're thinking about.

[–]luxury_banana 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't have to be. The threatpoint assures that she has power over you and that you had better do whatever she says or else.

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[–]Promac-3 points 12 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

You're in the same boat as him. You don't seem to be able to see past attraction and sex and who has control over it.

Live in reality. Choose what you want and get it on your own terms. Reality doesn't have to be a bachelor pad with a smoking room and a sports car. It can be for a while but it doesn't have to be your entire life. Your tastes and desires will mature and change over time. Choose to live a life that suits you for exactly as long as it suits you. Choose what you have in your life - that's what makes you an alpha. If I choose to have a family and it's an honest, open choice with nothing to do with control or dominance or smv then I'm in control of my life and there are no hamsters involved.

It's all about choice and being in control of your own life.

[–]redditaccountpls 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted.

I think it's scary that there is a growing subset of men who a life of fucking different bitches and indulging in self-absorbed behaviour is anything to be proud of or any sort of ideal to uphold.

[–]Promac 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reddit has a higher than average number of younger people. Young guys are all about sex and find it hard to imagine they'll ever see things differently.

[–]Modified_Hackware 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

According to Google Ad Planner's estimate, as of May 2013, the median Reddit user is male (59%), 25–34 years of age, and is connecting from the United States.

From wiki - metrics from google.

I don't know what you count as young it could stretch either way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't make him a 'beta', but given the current legal and social regime, it does make him a fool.

[–]AlmostRP 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Before and after preselection.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why does this make complete and perfect sense?

[–]SacredC 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow this is a golden example

[–]textualintercourse 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how he even just puts the "The wife" in there at the end as opposed to "The Ex".

Kind of like, "Good job. Pick a prize..middle shelf."

[–]the_red_scimitar -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't see ANY hamstering. Seems more like frank admission of RP principles. Competition anxiety, Alpha vs. Beta, etc.

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