Lifting is not enough: Do you even cardio/MMA ?

PsychedelicDentist · 2018-06-15T19:05:42+00:00

Continual improvement is definitely the path - we have an almost unlimited potential. Don't listen to these faggot comments trying to hamster their way out of trying to be the best version of themselves possible.

The Red Pill is not all about just fucking chicks, its about self-actualisation.

GodOfDinosaurs · 2018-06-15T18:57:25+00:00

Don't know what the fuck is with these negative comments on here. Everything you said is true. Solely lifting will leave you stiff and heavy even if you look better than the average guy.

DeontologicalSanders · 2018-06-15T22:08:56+00:00

For what it's worth, I hit Stronglifts 5x5 hard as fuck for 18 months, ate like a bear, and added minimum 60% to all of my lifts, while doing nothing else. No cardio, no yoga, no HIIT. I mean nothing.

The next summer I did some high-impact watersports shit for a whole weekend. Twisting, falling, putting torsional pressure on my knees. Now the cartilage behind my kneecap is fucked; my right knee pops and grinds when I bend it, and it hurts at night. My arms, legs, and back were strong as fuck in a linear sense, but all of the stabilizers that facilitate torsional strength had no work at all. I'm lucky it didn't result in a worse injury.

Don't just lift. Do at least 1-2 other activities, even if they're only occasional. Make sure you're well-rounded.

Hobojoe- · 2018-06-15T21:40:26+00:00

Might want to throw in a rest day in there.

I used to do something as intense or more intense than you, and I find that one rest day really helps.

miamiedge · 2018-06-16T02:10:49+00:00

Can't agree more about cardio and brain function.

Everyone knows cardio = good heart = live longer. But my dad, a neurologist, has been going on for years about cardio and brain function.

Maybe that's why jogging is so much more common in upper and upper-middle class neighborhoods than anywhere else.

Caesar_Vercingetorix · 2018-06-16T04:00:50+00:00

Running is the shit, it's one of the things you are literally made to do.

I recommend C25K to anyone looking to start. It helped me build up cardiovascular health after I quit smoking, and I couldn't run for more than 60 seconds without stopping.

ReturningSpider · 2018-06-16T06:13:36+00:00

The biggest benefit I've noticed from martial arts is the calmness. You learn that when you're in a tight spot, getting emotional and spazzing out will only work against you. Calmly assessing the situation and strategically trying to get out is the best path. This carries over to pretty much anything else in life too

Warped_Mindless · 2018-06-15T18:29:03+00:00

Yes lifting is enough. Im glad you found a hobby you like but im seeing a disturbing trend of men on here who think they need to be some top 1% male just to attract a bunch of women who have nothing going on in their life except looking temporarily hot.

When you start fucking a dating super hot chicks you soon find that most of their BFs aren't anything special except they were usually above average in looks and knew how to push their buttons the right way.

winnnnnnnnn · 2018-06-16T13:20:40+00:00

Just came here to co-sign BJJ. Redpill got me into lifting years ago but the BJJ.... mannnnnn "finding your thing" regardless of what it is could be making paper airplanes is a bliss every man/woman should experience. Of course, some people are just content to work eat sleep and drink. Currently train 9x a week (blue belt currently) at the "best academy" in the world depending upon who you ask in the BJJ community but easily top 5 so that may have something to do with my enthusiasm but man the things I am able to do to larger less skilled men (lower belts) who lift lol I feel like a cat playing with a mouse. I also have tons more confidence in general and have a completely self-reliant source of mental, spiritual, and physical happiness and that's the real secret. Thanks guys!

kpgfisty · 2018-06-16T03:32:55+00:00

You may think this is funny, strange or not a serious suggestion, but I suggest you do zumba for your cardio.

It has several benefits for mma/boxing in my experience. You move all the time with your feet, just like boxing. My footwork became better.

The cardio intensity is actually very heavy, way more than you would think if you just watch a class from across the gym. I'm always sweating buckets.

And it's fun, not boring like the threadmill, skipping rope or the stationary cycle.

If you think it's gay or you're too manly for it that's fine with me.

Fapisluv · 2018-06-15T21:41:56+00:00

You lift to look good and you live an active lifestyle/do cardio for longevity.

JustSatan · 2018-06-15T22:06:59+00:00

This is what I want to do. Need to implement BJJ and yoga asap.

Wty713 · 2018-06-16T00:11:39+00:00

Ive lost over 100lbs in about 4 years and I recently started bozing, and I totally agree with what you are saying. My energy levels have already gone up; I can literally do circuits my whole work out because my endurance has skyrocketed.

LotBuilder · 2018-06-16T00:48:49+00:00

If you want to look like a badass, lift a lot. If you actually want to be a badass, do BJJ/MMA. Yoga is nice because you occasionally meet women that are a few notches above most tinder cum dumpsters. They are still Awalt but their bodies are great and their hamstering is more creative and centered.

duehvdke · 2018-06-16T03:28:32+00:00

Damn straight. I'm starting college in the fall and looking at BJJ gyms and MMA gyms and will now consider yoga too. Already getting into cycling for cardio and doing a HIIT plan for maximum shreds. Have been lifting for 4.5 years now and it's not enough.

Arabian_Wolf · 2018-06-16T08:47:25+00:00

I swim 3-4 times a week on non-consecutive days in medium intensity, it's my favorite cardio and can see myself doing it for a lifetime.

Stabiel · 2018-06-16T11:48:32+00:00

As a heavy lifter that just had his first boxing training i would agree. I have a whole lot of conditioning to do.

flashbackquick · 2018-06-16T03:31:53+00:00

I don't prioritize lifting anymore. I now focus on running, cross training activities, and lifting if I have the time. I have that luxury because I spent years lifting already so I have a base. But it's useless to be big if you can't go do cool stuff like climb mountains or go surfing or whatever, and look like a chump because your cardio sucks. I think the idea that you need to be a huge dude to get women is also overstated, being fit is well enough.

I think TRPers would do better to focus on becoming athletic rather than becoming strong. One is much more comprehensive than the other.

U-94 · 2018-06-15T22:39:07+00:00

I run 5 miles every other day. Always have with my lifting routine. Gotta be lean.

NeverLace · 2018-06-16T12:44:33+00:00

Awesome post. This summer is the first time since discovering TRP that Ive had a conciderable ammount of spare time. Previosly I've worked night shifts and have had school, but I graduated last week and I got around 1.8k back in tax returns, so it opends alot of posibilities for me. I'm thinking of doing lifting/climbing/MMA and this was a nice guide on how to incorporate the routines needed to implement the hobbies!

TallSwaggOVO · 2018-06-18T08:24:24+00:00

Lifting itself isn’t enough

People on this sub are funny, but lost. It proves that a lot of men, despite taking the red pill, still don’t get it. You are very ignorant to overall health if you think that lifting alone is enough. I’m getting tired of seeing so many post that say, “just lift”, as if it’s going to solve all of your problems. Lifting alone isn’t the answer to everything, and I don’t understand why people in the comments are disagreeing with you.

People keep bringing up women, but fail to understand that not everything is about women. If some of y’all have truly taken the red pill, y’all would know that. Lifting itself is good for strength training, and intimidation tactics. However, cardio is very important for overall health. What sense does it do you if you’re buff, but stiff like a stick and can’t even run for a good distance without grabbing your knees? What good is it to be strong, but can’t even defend yourself and you get your ass whooped? What good is it to lift, but you have health problems because you can’t even discipline right on a diet?

Some of y’all need a reality check and have a lot to learn. Good post OP, I agree with he message 100%

fiteaux · 2018-06-16T22:32:34+00:00

In 2015 I lost 100pounds from cardio alone. Was a overweight fat fuck I remember my first time attempting a mile I couldn’t even run half. But slowly worked my way up to 3-4 miles everyday for 6 days a week.. I noticed my brain function development I got smarter.. even got my own business.. was 5’11 247pounds.. my only regret was not lifting until last month.. lost 29% bf to 16.5

Cairnsian · 2018-06-16T05:52:33+00:00

The connor mcgregor comment was funny hehehehe hehehehe

trentreznor95 · 2018-06-16T02:48:06+00:00

Happy you mentioned this. I still get weird looks from other guys at the gym because they see me warmup with a couple miles run on the treadmill or 10 miles on the elliptical. The secret to True lung and heart health is cardio. Who wants to be huge if you can't breathe?

lateteatoto · 2018-06-16T08:41:32+00:00

I'm curious, what are the "noob gains" you talk about ? I started lifting a small while ago and its just starting to show : is that "noob gain" ?

Bisuboy · 2018-06-16T08:49:21+00:00

Since you also do yoga: What routine do you do and what are the benefits of yoga?

Selentest · 2018-06-16T09:36:26+00:00

Is cycling a good form of cardio? On a real bike i mean.

whatsmyname17 · 2018-06-16T12:59:19+00:00

Good post. Good timing too because I just signed up for a bjj Gym yesterday and am starting on Monday. Only question is, why do you recommend only going on days you don’t lift? I lift Mon-Fri along with some running thrown in. But bjj is also only on weekdays. Do you suggest against it because you’d burn so many calories?

ntvirtue · 2018-06-16T13:56:53+00:00

Five or so years doing serious grappling and you will easily be able to take 90 percent of the general population.....The self confidence that comes with that is insanely awesome

writewhereileftoff · 2018-06-17T08:45:06+00:00

Read the Brain Rules by John Medina. It's basically what you said. Excercise is the best nootropic in excistence.

ManSoldWorld · 2018-06-17T14:41:38+00:00

Agreed.

If anybody here isn't a fan of cardio, something I've been doing is sprinting around with a basketball for a good 20-30 minutes before lifting. Shooting hoops and sprinting is way more interesting than treadmills or bikes, in my opinion.

KaizenRamen · 2018-06-18T19:26:59+00:00

Def looking into MMA soon. Thanks for the post

mgtowandmysoginyftw · 2018-06-18T20:46:58+00:00

Yeah I agree with you. Only lifting without stretching, mobility work and cardio is kind of stupid.

Martial arts are great for fitness, I used to box but my hands couldn't take it no matter how well I wrapped them.

I prefer to do things solo nowadays anyway.

The_Chiselnator · 2018-06-15T18:33:30+00:00

Have you tried being buried under hot volcanic ash then drinking a bucket of virgin llama milk mixed with the tears of virgins from the Andes and a drop of fresh nectar from a flower that has just popped open in the Himalayas while chanting "do you even lift, bro" ?

Tw4me · 2018-06-16T14:44:26+00:00

Great thread , to guys who advocate swole = dominance https://youtu.be/0tzjcEgPWpM

BottleCap-SnackTrap · 2018-06-17T19:09:48+00:00

I have a few questions if you don't mind answering some:

1)Is it practical to do cardio on the same day as lifting or should I split up the days for better progression?

2)When using the AB Roller, is the only way to tell if I'm doing it right is if I feel it in my lower back more than my abdominals?

3)Would Cardio Kickboxing HIIT be more effective of a cal burner due to the afterburn effect?

Last question:

4)I work 2-3 days Overnight Stocking for 7-9 hours (time differs depends on how much of a load is on the truck). I'm constantly speed walking, lunging, and squatting for that time frame. Is it accurate to guess that I would burn up to 800 cals in total for (for say) 8 hours and 30 mins?

My height is 6' 0 Age: 21.

I exercise 4 days out of the week plus my job.

My deficit ranges from 1952-2167.

Thanks for your time.

livefast06 · 2018-06-18T23:18:17+00:00

Martial arts is like a game of physical chess. There are counters, faints, set-ups, rules and laws, and all of these forms of strategy translate in to making you more intelligent in your every day life. As you continue training, you'll notice you naturally become better at conversation (counter-arguments, faints and calling others' bluff, set-ups which become useful when gaming women, as well as colleagues to keep the conversation in your favour). These principles of strategy will become so developed in your mind, almost like a muscle, and will be universally applicable to areas of life outside of the gym.

Martial arts also teach you to remain stoic in your demeanor, and to leave emotions to the side. This is because defending your own life (whether real or simulated) can be hindered by your emotions. Your emotions drive your hormones, and can interfere with rational, direct and instinctual action which is crucial to defending your own life (because that is what you are training for, among other reasons as well). This stoic demeanor also assumes hypertrophy over time, similar to a muscle, where it becomes more capable and can be applied to everyday life outside of the gym. An example would be you get off work, you're dog tired and hungry, and your girl friend starts to shit-test you because she realizes a potential opportunity to gain temporary dominance over you. Instead of perceiving it as a threat and engaging with emotional defense, losing frame, and potentially losing sex for the night (and a win for her), you instead realize what she is doing, remove emotional responses, and instantaneously formulate a counter that puts her back on her heels and on the defensive - leaving her apologizing for her actions. You then move forward, on to the next conversation and have a relaxing evening. As a result, you win, and the LTR as a whole wins and maintains balance.

The obvious benefits of martial arts training include physical conditioning, improved appearance and aesthetics, increased confidence, regularly socializing with like-minded individuals, as well as being able to defend your life and the lives of your loved ones if that time comes.

MGTOWKNIGHT · 2018-06-20T21:07:35+00:00

@ OP

I lift 4-5 a week with cardio throw in with 3 of my workouts for good measure.

Usually I will do HIIT workouts, or I'll do crossovers with my jump rope.

TBH, jump rope is by far the most effective cardio I have found.

It shreds you up like crazy.

robtormar · 2018-06-22T21:50:27+00:00

I like your routine gonna sticky this bitchhh

tonikroosofficial · 2018-06-15T18:55:23+00:00

I did boxing for a bit and swimming, I love both but it takes too much time. Just going to focus on lifting, once I have financial freedom I'll get back into boxing and swimming.

SpecOpsAlpha · 2018-06-16T02:29:36+00:00

Firearm training. Being proficient with a two quality firearms (or 3) is good for your psyche, if not your physical condition. Train with a light sidearm (I carry a .38) for carry, a heavier caliber for auto (I carry a 1911 in .45 cal), and a good quality rifle (I have several) for home use. Having a machete sharpened to razor sharpness in your garage and basement is also a good idea.

Herdsengineers · 2018-06-15T21:34:03+00:00

I love martial arts training. Started when I was 13. I don't get mat time much anymore simply because there isn't a decent dojo near my house so I can't make it to any classes at a place that is worth a damn with any regularity.

That said, I'd recommend everyone get at least a few years of training in a place that doesn't require contracts, doesn't do tournaments, and has all mild mannered (except on the mat while training!) and polite yudansha and owners.

Gobraves44 · 2018-06-15T18:26:05+00:00

Have you tried cryotherapy

CanAm10004 · 2018-06-15T20:11:15+00:00

It can be argued that heavy lifting without excess rest is cardio.

unplug9000 · 2018-06-16T11:06:04+00:00

I do cardio after I lift, nobody got time for that separately :D Btw. working 45 hours a week - those are rookie number, you gotta pump those up asap!

redpillrobert · 2018-06-16T02:26:15+00:00

fuck off some people actually have jobs

M23W0OH7FV2t · 2018-06-16T07:37:18+00:00

I get to walk to the subway and back every weekday, as Denmark has some of the highest petrol prices in Europe. Pools are rare because of the weather and there is no pool in my building.

DayGameChirality · 2018-06-15T22:05:55+00:00

I can eat more, maintenance cals is now 3,300

How the fuck is that a benefit? Now you need to spend even more time eating during a bulk.

kurdishpower01 · 2018-06-15T18:44:25+00:00

MMA fucks you up more than it helps if you're not a expert at it and most of us ain't experts. So yes, lifting is enough.

Title	Lifting is not enough: Do you even cardio/MMA ?
Author	digbick2222
Upvotes	132
Comments	110
Date	June 15, 2018 6:24 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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