NAWALT - my experience

helenvsgladys · 2019-09-18T10:04:09+00:00

No one who understands TRP should need to hear this, because "AWALT" is not meant to be taken literally. It's like when a firearm safety instructor tells you "every gun is loaded." Yeah no shit not literally every gun on earth is loaded at all times, but to respond with that is to miss the point. You don't attend firearm safety classes to share examples of unloaded guns you've handled.

sensual_predditor · 2019-09-18T05:30:27+00:00

AWALT until proven otherwise and even then lifetime probation

EdmondDaunts · 2019-09-18T09:44:05+00:00

AWALT is a known risk. It is built in.

That doesn’t mean you avoid the risk. You build contingency and have measures in place not to accelerate it.

But you have to accept it is there otherwise you can’t make informed and rational decisions

RedDeadlift · 2019-09-18T07:28:01+00:00

Refreshing post. Glad to see someone else thinking along the same lines I do. I had a girl close to that too. Totally in love with me, committed, feminine. Not raised in the west. I ended up breaking it off because I wanted to sleep around. I regret it sometimes.

thebadguy89 · 2019-09-18T05:33:31+00:00

Agreed. NAWALT. My ex was the most feminine girl I've ever met, n-count of 1, beautiful face, slender body, genetically endowed with 0 armpit hair or asshair, hard-working, loyal, 100% submissive, always let me choose the restaurants and plan the day out. She did whatever I wanted whenever I asked for it, swallowed every single time, was always wet, would blow me for 30+ minutes at a time and paid for half the meals. And this was all while I was the most beta motherfucker on the planet. I literally had no backbone and was the typical nice guy trying to appease everybody in his life. Unlike my other ex who deserves to die in a ditch eaten by rats, I hope this ex finds her alpha bucks in life because she deserves it.

omen_tenebris · 2019-09-18T12:02:13+00:00

First of all: I'm sorry for your loss.

But don't forget, time usually makes you see through rose tinted googles.

FereallyRed · 2019-09-18T07:27:44+00:00

Unicorns are on high pedestals.

KeffirLime · 2019-09-18T09:55:29+00:00

don't be too red-pilled that you can't see it. You might end up lucky like I did.

This is like a lotto winner anecdotally sharing their experience and then dispensing advice.

You hit the jackpot, and I'm happy for you, but it's the exception and not the norm. Trying to replicate your situation and changing your behavior or approach based on this is like living as if you'll win the lottery, you'll always lose and always be disappointed.

Rather base your approach on the noticeable, documented, predictable behaviors, which is applicable to 99% of women. If you do hit the jackpot, then enjoy yourself and count yourself lucky.

Bruchibre · 2019-09-18T06:42:13+00:00

What do you mean by "the accident"? Did she pass away?

Philosophipster · 2019-09-18T11:02:50+00:00

I think its interesting that after such a short life up to now, this is your conclusion. Seems premature, but def not RP in the oneitis sense :)

Maybe you found a more traditional girl that liked gender roles and groomed you to be the guy she wants to be with since you fit other benchmarks (assume you were taller than her, baseline more handsome, showed potential in capacity - as proven by your life changes) Kudos for that!

However, what you describe is the standard of a grown-up relationship.

I fear you’ve mostly dated immature women with shallow perspectives on life and lack of true empathy. Just wait till you hit 40+. Then every woman will be desperate to do what your unicorn-ex did, simply to be in a relationship with a guy they can show to their friends and family.

From that perspective, every woman could be a unicorn. Just sounds like you found your definition of a unicorn, not a unicorn per se. If you dont mind my meta analyses. I could be wrong of course, curious to hear your thoughts.

andyturbo2000 · 2019-09-18T10:10:25+00:00

I found my unicorn and I will never meet another

You're not Red Pill at all. You've learnt nothing.

blahPerson · 2019-09-18T10:04:28+00:00

What happened to this woman?

lugrulo · 2019-09-18T12:44:58+00:00

Had you not mentioned she passed away, this post would be downvoted.

Redsqa · 2019-09-18T11:17:51+00:00

TRP has such a contrarian attitude to things that now even bluepill posts get upvoted smh. We've come full circle.

aDrunkenWhaler · 2019-09-18T10:41:01+00:00

You don't understand what AWALT means. No, it doesn't mean all women are cunts and will backstab you when given the opportunity. It is less about women behaviour and more about their evolutionary traits. Go back to the sidebar.
Why not let us know the rest of the story? What happened with your unicorn, after the 'accident', whatever that was? Why avoid to answer this?
I went through your history for half a minute, and 2 things stood out: 1st, you are or was a mormon, so I'm guessing she is too. Women's behaviour adapts to their community. Move her to Berlin or New York and see how well she keeps her shit together. 2nd, you believe the earth is flat. And that says a lot, mate.

Edit: mormon instead of morom

lancer000 · 2019-09-18T07:31:06+00:00

A rare 0.01 percent are NAWALT.

Sendmeloveletters · 2019-09-18T11:46:32+00:00

My NAWALT left me after 5 years when her girlfriend got divorced and started basking in the glory of male attention because “she was never truly independent” in her life and “wanted to know what it was like” and is now dating a criminal drug addict she perceived as alpha who is ruining her life and she went from 11/10 wifey to sociopathically cold cunt with zero respect as soon as she knew how much power she had over me when she could tell how sad I was that she left. She was disgusted by my love and has shown herself to be a completely different person than the NAWALT she was when we were together. AWALT...eventually.

Read “Women’s Infidelity.” You can find the pdf online.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-09-18T14:49:56+00:00

AWALT doesn't necessarily mean they are all low value, cheating whores. (Though it does pay to not put it past them).

It can mean that all women are attracted to certain traits/qualities/behaviours in men. Following this assumption means you can build a reliable strategy and offense.

'Should I be strong, treat myself like a prize, be a little aloof, game other women?' 'Yes mate, because AWALT'.

Notice this chick 'Red Pilled' you. She didn't blue pill you. Why? Because AWALT. They all like a little Red Pill.

BlindingTwilight · 2019-09-18T11:27:24+00:00

Meh when you are alpha as fuck most women are unicorns. You sir are still very much in need of the red pill.

Mikael_Snake · 2019-09-18T10:12:10+00:00

I follow MGTOW because they're an interesting group, but there really is a lot of false information on there. AWALT is probably the biggest lie MGTOW preaches. The guys on there have to a man been treated like total shit by a woman or women, no doubt about that. Nearly every one will give you a horror story. But they've become so jaded and wounded that they genuinely believe all women are evil. That's clearly just not the case.

I follow TRP because it has excellent advice for men, undoubtedly the best I've ever come across, both for single men and men in LTRs. but it's clearly a transitional place. It can help you become a truly independent and strong man, and while some men can go their whole lives spinning plates most of us do actually thirst for an LTR with a good woman because plate spinning gets old and boring and, frankly, tiring after a few decades. Good women are definitely out there and they're not even that rare. Problem is a lot of guys don't how to find them - they chase whores and find women on tinder or in bars or at parties or in clubs, then they get jaded when it doesn't work out. Protip: you don't find high value women in those places.

Glad to see this thread and the top voted comment is in agreement.

TheRedPillMonkey · 2019-09-18T13:11:52+00:00

I love all the stories of NAWALT in this thread are ending in hypergamy. (Except OPs)

OP, sorry for your loss, but you didn't experience NAWALT. You experienced a great woman and demonstrated good frame.

AWALT is not actions, it's the mentality that women want the best for themselves (and validation that they are achieving it) and if they think they can do better than you, they will. Hypergamy.

She thought you were the best for her, saw no reason to branch swing, and was just a great submissive woman to begin with.

SeasonedRP · 2019-09-18T13:28:15+00:00

The blue pilled tradcons here and on MRP are probably salivating over this post. Personally, I don't believe in unicorns. Here's my question: were you married to her?

TheEgyptianConqueror · 2019-09-18T13:31:59+00:00

I think something missing here is there is a certain type of girl that's awalt. Girls in clubs and on tinder are all awalt. There are genuinely decent women, but they're not the hot White Chicks you meet at the club. Those girls are very literally all the same.

Woujo · 2019-09-18T14:05:02+00:00

This is a nice post, but it seems to miss the main point of what AWALT means.

AWALT does not mean all women are terrible, evil monsters. It just means they were designed by evolution to be a certain way, and no matter how much they or society hides those facts or denies that they are that way, certain core truths about them will never change.

Once you understand that women are a certain way, you can learn how to interact with them to have a happy, healthy relationship with them. But the danger is that if you lose sight of their core nature, things go bad. That's all AWALT means - no more, no less.

The other twist is that many women in modern society are damaged, so that even if you learn those core truths about them and interact with them in the right way, they will still act like terrible, evil monsters. Those women are just broken and incapable of having a healthy relationship and there is nothing you or anybody else can do for them - they will die alone and miserable after they have sucked the blood of many miserable men.

Final_Pantasy · 2019-09-18T14:27:44+00:00

I thought I found my NAWALT with my plate of 3 months - been really good to me, was considering for an LTR. Yesterday she told me she still has one other guy she's seeing, "but ya know, I don't use Tinder or Bumble anymore, and I just want to make sure I meet the best guy for me". Subtely/underhandedly told me all I need to know that she doesn't see me as the best guy for her.

On to the "forever a plate until it breaks list" she goes.

I've been spinning plates for a couple years now, and I'm honestly pretty exhausted by it, but I've found most "dateable" women (not fat, educated, etc) are totally incapable of not acting on their hypergamous nature, at least here in LA.

ThePillAdvisor · 2019-09-18T15:16:35+00:00

Great to hear and read this since this is YOUR experience and sounds like you were happy. So that is great!

I do feel like you’ve missed or skipped a point bro and here is why:

AWALT is very real and prominent in today’s society. All women possess the same traits we discuss on a day to day basis (or should I say we should be discussing). All women possess the manipulative traits we train ourselves to navigate. All women have the potential to do the things we sometimes joke about on here since if you’ve read the sidebar and done your own research, you can spot it coming from a mile off. We aren’t saying from my perspective that ALL woman show ALL these traits at the same time. ALL women have the potential to do these things since for the most part these skills are what they are born with. It’s natural to them, if you have an infant daughter you will notice her methods of persuasion compared to your son as an example. ALL women have the potential to be like the decrepit women we read about on here it’s just that some women consciously or subconsciously make the choice not to do certain things may that be from upbringing or social pressures. We do not hate women, we leave that to MGTOW. At the same time on the forum we do not idolise them either like they are these angelic beings that we have to be gentle with.

A prime example of what I mean above in regards to some exhibiting traits to different severities or not at all is:

Some women I know have slept with 50+ men and I know girls that claim to have only slept with 3 men (marriage blah blah blah). Every woman and I mean every woman has the potential to sleep with 50+ men. Some choose not to for their own reasons whether that be for the fear of being slut shamed or because of religious backgrounds. Some women disregard upbringing and pressures and jump on any dick they can find that makes them have feels momentarily. That is simply just how IT IS!

So to summarise in my opinion. When this forum shouts AWALT, it’s more of a statement that you shouldn’t be SURPRISED she did certain acts or behaviours because they all have the skills and potential to do it.

I hope my post provides some clarity.

Good day PillAdvisor

extragreensauce · 2019-09-18T15:27:08+00:00

seems you displayed a positive confirmation bias towards this woman and failed to see any of her flaws. that's like sleeping next to asbestos everyday and thinking it's not effecting you.

you think the earth is flat and also believe in unicorns. you're points are invalid. AWALT still stands

edit: cognitive bias --> positive confirmation bias

mtbox1987 · 2019-09-18T05:26:55+00:00

Thank you for that. I am glad that someone out there actually has the same thought process as I do. My rock bottom has been experienced for some time now and I think I am ready to give a chance to an actual relationship if one ever comes my way.

empatheticapathetic · 2019-09-18T07:33:39+00:00

So she left because you got injured?

BillyRedRocks · 2019-09-18T14:40:20+00:00

I guess we need another purge.

Congratulations, now have you heard of the 7 year itch?
DO you even know why we say AWALT?
Do you plan on getting over your oneitis for your dead girlfriend?
You need to see a psych or something and stop posting shit on the sub.

re4d3 · 2019-09-18T12:19:20+00:00

Society goes to shit when fathers do not care that their daughters are whoring around since 15. Find a virgin from a complete family and there is reasonable chance to snatch a good one, even mother of your kids. Then keep her in a line using the RP knowledge. Remember that chart of divorce probability vs n-count? It just says all.

BusterVadge · 2019-09-18T12:24:26+00:00

I'm sorry for your loss, brother. Looking back, I have had some good relationships with women who have defied the AWALT label as well. They've all ended for various reasons (was just my turn).

There are good women out there, and having a AWALT mindset is not only healthy, it helps weed out the undesirable ones more quickly.

growingstronk · 2019-09-18T14:58:12+00:00

Hypergamy at its best is not when she branch swings to a better man, but when she makes you a better man

No one complains about benevolent hypergamy.

gixxerthouguy · 2019-09-18T15:03:46+00:00

This is an interesting post. For 3 yrs I have been in an LTR, after 2 divorces. So I'm a little older, with a few more blue pill mistakes under my belt than most. Recently I have often thought that NAWALT, having found the girl who never argues, always wants to please me, fucks good, sucks good etc. Same sense of humour, makes good money, pays for herself. In fact I live in her house rent free - but I pay for my own house, and whats ours is ours, we don't have any claim on each others possessions.

What sits in the back of my mind is that all women ARE like that - I'm just waiting for the day it finishes, knowing it won't last forever. Maybe this keeps the relationship on its toes, or maybe having our independence does. Or maybe it just suits us both right now.

The other strange thing is recently I find myself looking around all the time, thinking I can do better (gym, diet, etc, my SMV is higher). So much for AWALT, maybe all men are like that? But analysing my impending branch swing has been an interesting thought process.

ohris · 2019-09-18T15:48:04+00:00

I can understand AWALT, it makes perfect sense to me, but I don't understand your story. I can't see why a woman would insist on a an average guy who's being an ass to her. Women seek men for protection and you didn't seem like you could provide that.

Actually, all women are like that, and they are like that for a good reason. Assuming your story is true, you were her top choice for some reason, if that ever changed, you would have been dropped without remorse.

Captain_Raamsley · 2019-09-18T16:31:28+00:00

Really, you removed it? Lame. Stop caring about blue triangles m8 and say what you have to say.

LandoChronus · 2019-09-18T04:40:46+00:00

She gave me reasons to be proud of myself and actually red-pilled me

So she was the man in the relationship and now you're an alpha widow.

sebastianconcept · 2019-09-18T10:26:00+00:00

Thanks for sharing this. Sorry you lost her. A hot feminine and conscientious woman is a jewel. Deep inside, every male psyche knows this is the best.

blakkburst · 2019-09-18T11:40:30+00:00

Fuck me that sounds a lot like a hopedigger. Good find but may her soul rest in peace buddy. Honor her passing in a way you'd think she'd be proud of.

cydestiny · 2019-09-18T14:15:39+00:00

I read through all the comments, some said they always have similar experience BUT most didn't end up with them.

I would like to boldly introduce a new term "Women Aren't Always Like That" - WAALT

It means that women aren't always on each end of the spectrum, nor they're in between, they act accordingly to how they feel at that particular moment. They usually act woman AWALT and sometimes does show NAWALT.

The thing is, if they're pure NAWALT, it literally means that no matter what happened, they wont leave but they all did (even in some examples in the comments).

So what can we get from WAALT? Recognize that no matter how far they're at the good spectrum that you enjoy, they will one day out of a sudden be on the other side without any valid reasons. So, always remind yourself to not rely on a woman so much that when she decides to leave, you become miserable.

And no, don't be a suspicious prick trying to reject woman when they're on the good spectrum but play with it CONSCIOUSLY. A good indicator is when you're not being yourself, e.g. you don't like cats, but suddenly you want to have one at home and selfie with it everyday.

Sac_fo_dayz · 2019-09-18T12:37:07+00:00

You folks who are dismissing this guy outright for voicing a different opinion and disputing the character of a WOMAN WHO IS FUCKING DEAD can go straight to Hell. Toxic bastards.

555WeWolf · 2019-09-18T08:06:26+00:00

Thank you for a refreshing post like this one. I have been in a dump recently about whether i am doing the right thing with my relationship. The thing is she is feminine, like someone already said "not raised in the west", smart and hardworking with her studies and genuinely a kind person which is partly a product of her environment. The problem is the sex, or rather the lack of it, but every time i think about it it is obvious that the logistics are shit, we are both students living with our parents, both have an unemployed parent so no one is free at home and we both have a lot of work for our studies. If you ask TRP i am guessing they would hang me for still being with her and not spining plates (which honestly i don't see any way of doing because of my logistics while i am a still student). But i genuinely enjoy her company, we have a lot of common interests and since there is almost no nagging, no fighting at the end of the day why should i leave her?

McVaghunter · 2019-09-18T14:51:54+00:00

What a sad story, I can't even imagine what it is like to waste 6 years of your life having sex with only one girl; same tits, same pussy, same ass for more than 2000 days... If she truly cared about you she wouldn't have done this to you.

Thunderbird93 · 2019-09-18T13:56:20+00:00

I agree, good post. You want an example of NAWALT? Gina Haspel. First female director of the C.I.A This chick is literally handling classified information and has to be coldly logical to succeed in her mission.

Title	NAWALT - my experience
Author	Mikael_Snake
Upvotes	247
Comments	163
Date	September 18, 2019 4:33 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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