Tyler Durden Philosophy

richasalannister · 2019-09-09T05:08:26+00:00

Telling two women that they'll never be as attractive as they used to upset them? Color me shocked

ShadowInSoul · 2019-09-09T04:53:32+00:00

Well if you think about it's like calling dumb people DUMB in their faces... TRP is a good knowledge to have, but like religion or politics is not good to shoving through cause kill the good vibes. Not all people want to know, more of them are not interested (a good anology of the Matrix here). When you talk about philosophy or sex for example, you need to catch the right people to open up freely about it. Just relax, enjoy, and continue with your life but always with the knowledge back to your head, not all good things in life need advertise.

ZoroasterFlame · 2019-09-09T04:11:07+00:00

Just because they revile the ideas does not mean they won't accept them. In Freud's opinion, the emotional reaction caused by his ideas was a demonstration of their power.

furcryingoutloud · 2019-09-09T09:27:21+00:00

“If you want to tell people the truth, you’d better make them laugh or they’ll kill you”... George Bernard Shaw

The last thing people want to hear is the truth. Hence all the hatred towards the red pill. Comedians like Bill Burr get away with it because they lace it with comedy. So unless you're a comic, better to keep your ideas of truth in your head.

ParmeetSidhu · 2019-09-09T05:16:40+00:00

What I’ve learned is you can’t force anyone to take the Red Pill they have to come to it themselves.

SnowMonkeyCracker · 2019-09-09T07:20:12+00:00

There is a maxim that well-mannered individuals do not talk about sex, religion, and politics in polite company. Red Pill concepts overlap with all three categories so are guaranteed to offend somebody at some time.

Keep your fat trap shut! It is the polite thing to do.

darkstar1031 · 2019-09-09T05:48:01+00:00

"The matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But, when you're inside and you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save, but until we do these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it."

FereallyRed · 2019-09-09T04:12:48+00:00

"You can't handle the truth!"

Sir_Distic · 2019-09-09T05:51:05+00:00

Anything in America that disrupts the notion that women are special and are to be worshipped will be scorned. That is the state of our country.

TV/movies/media in all forms, politicians court women voters and beta males, the courts, so on and so forth.

huhub · 2019-09-09T10:01:21+00:00

I've found it pretty easy to expose TRP fundamentals to males when I start with some evolutionary stuff: why we needed to be fit and why looks were important, who was alphas etc. Then I say that we still have ancient emotions and imprints and they still play vital role in our lives. I follow with examples of current economic and social leaders, whose SMV is enormous, and I point that all of them are attractive and none have dadbods.

Finally, I say that even simple lifting changes your mind since it changes your hormones: males become more masculine, while obviously females become more feminine. I'd like to know all these things 10 years ago, my life would be different, I say in conclusion.

Any statement I say is either obvious or is easy verifiable, so even if your interlocutors are pretty beta/wk, they occur in a position where rejecting widely-known facts is simply stupid, but at the same time I'm not arguing with them, they don't need to resist.

party_dragon · 2019-09-09T07:19:09+00:00

people don't like you attacking their life / values / lifestyle choices / ego. News at 11.

pro_cion · 2019-09-09T11:02:16+00:00

Definetely, bro.

That concept is pretty old - in Nietzsche's "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" the main hero understood that there is no way he can teach mankind the concept of "Superman" because only few are willing to accept and internalize it.

It's thankless job to try to convince people in TPR or anything different from social norms

RStonePT · 2019-09-09T15:16:49+00:00

Tyler Durden, arguably the quintessential fictional persona of a true RedPill individual

No. That's not how this works. You don't want to be chad, god knows there's 3 articles in this sub alone who have said as much.

"You don't want to be chad" by whisper I believe and

"The sheriff" By GLO

If you build an archetype and then chase it you've indulged in narcissistic fantasies, this is exactly what a gamma male does, and is a form of NPD, definitely anti social, and unattractive as fuck.

If you're going to talk about palenchuks concepts in fight club, best to understand them first. Tyler was the nihilist that killed all the sacred cows, and the narrator was tasked with rebuilding from the ashes. Plus, he shot himself in the book in front of his support groups ... So what does that tell you?

Also, search for "Stop spouting the rules and play the game" I believe that was HSP but i could be mistaken.

22oregon22 · 2019-09-09T07:19:31+00:00

Also remember, Tyler told them not not talk about fight club knowing that some of them would break that rule.

Some rules can be bent, others broken.

frooschnate · 2019-09-09T12:35:53+00:00

Having Tyler Durden as your quintessential idol or red pill pillar is some laughable child shit.

i_amtheice · 2019-09-09T09:20:47+00:00

This post speaks truth but I gotta say, I'm cringing at the overall tone and execution. You're technically right, but the whole thing reeks of "I am euphoric". Fishing for validation on a pretty basic epiphany that literally everyone discovers at a relatively early point in the process. Work on that.

Lateralanouncer · 2019-09-09T06:17:56+00:00

Funny, as over here in New Zealand we have the most promiscuous woman in the world. It’s a common subject. The environment is also very different.

DonBullDor · 2019-09-09T10:38:03+00:00

As the saying goes "think as you like but behave like others"

Protocol_Apollo · 2019-09-09T11:32:58+00:00

The teacher only appears AFTER the student is ready.

fuckGuilt · 2019-09-09T14:32:34+00:00

The furthest I would ever go towards "Red Pilling" someone is either getting them to watch Patrice O'neal's Elephant in the Room or reading Kaufman's translation of Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals.

22oregon22 · 2019-09-09T09:53:16+00:00

People who glorify Tyler Durden kind of totally missed the point of Fight Club and what Palahniuk was saying.

But yeah, don't talk about TRP. That's good advice.

umizumiz · 2019-09-09T13:55:46+00:00

Lol

"So I was in a hot ub..."

"and then I said x..."

"and those old hags got up and left! Lol"

Autist.

RP_Throwaway_4U · 2019-09-09T07:11:39+00:00

I’ll never understand why some dudes on here WANT others around them to become redpilled. I’d prefer to keep this knowledge to myself. Less competition that way.

redvelvet_oreo · 2019-09-09T09:44:33+00:00

What I don’t understand is why were you going around talking about this shit? Didn’t you learn from the sidebar to not talk about it? What exactly did you expect in terms of reactions from people? I understand the need to want to help other dudes but really there is no point they need to find their own way. Just keep your mouth shut and exercise actual TRP. Game and bang women instead of telling them they are post wall. Jesus...

majani · 2019-09-09T08:54:37+00:00

There's so much red pill material online nowadays that anyone who needs this info will probably find it in a moment of desperate Googling after a nasty experience with women. But if you must share verbally, know that men are most open to change when their finances or health are threatened by something/someone.

Spicychickenaholic · 2019-09-09T09:12:18+00:00

We're you intentionally being a dick to these women or were they offended at the very idea that you (and men) prefer younger women?

Theguygotgame777 · 2019-09-12T00:17:19+00:00

Talking about The Red Pill is like singing along to music you're listening to on earbuds.

You think you're the most awesome person alive... because no one else can hear the tune but you.

sorsscriba · 2019-09-09T11:38:49+00:00

I think discussing trp with people unfamiliar to it is all about the approach. Stay with the basics that any bluepiller (male or female) can identify with (eg. Men and women are different and see the world through different lenses). If they can handle vague ideas that they know to be instinctively true then you can gradually provide more indepth or "controversial" topics and points of view.

dkirkpatr · 2019-09-09T13:14:53+00:00

We are constantly being told our problems are someone else keeping us down. Its not your fault. So on so forth they don't want you trying doing what you should be doing.

AS1776 · 2019-09-09T14:50:09+00:00

The point of red pill is to have more and more new initiative, but they must first show the signs of awakening, the symptom of wanting out of the lies and social engineering.

Then red pill them, let the bitter truth lead them to the “a-ha moment” that we all experienced when we realized the truth has always been there, we’re just too naive to take it for what it is.

This is not a casual topic you bring up to the “happily blue pilled”, you’re not helping them that way.

_ozunu · 2019-09-09T15:18:20+00:00

Fight Club's philosophy is about turning your mushy self into a solid piece of wood.

The Red Pill is about turning your mushy self into a majestic and solid tree.

Unfortunately, it's easier to cut yourself from the ground that learning how to use the soil to grow.

So it's easier to say to someone "Don't give fuck about what other people want, love is to mysterious to understand so why bother anyway" than saying "You are growing old and deep down you know that men prefer younger women."

unn4med · 2019-09-09T16:21:21+00:00

The timing of this is incredible. Just watched fight club a few days ago for the first time. Incredible movie. Classic too. Thanks for the great post

MyspaceFlow3000 · 2019-09-09T17:27:28+00:00

I watched a video on YouTube of a guy showing a chick some red pill philosophy videos for her reaction and I could not help but to think that dude is breaking the code and seeking approval at the same damn time....pick one, don’t do both Jesus Christ 🤦🏾‍♂️

Warrior_King02 · 2019-09-09T21:18:13+00:00

Same thing happened to me yesterday. One of my mates was talking about going out with a chick and everyone chimes and starts to say cringe BP type shit. I suggest some RP advice and they go “Bro but not all women are like that” so I just said “alright bro” and just went on about my work. There’s no point convincing someone to swallow the pill if they’re not willing to take it. Like it has been said before, you must find TRP yourself.

BobbyPeru · 2019-09-09T22:41:19+00:00

Yep, when I first swallowed the pill, I tried it out- mostly on just loose acquaintances. They usually acted interested and let me go on about it... but, after a few times, it became clear that most men just aren’t ready for the truths of swallowing TRP. Now, I may drop a crump of RP here and there, and let them nibble on it. I don’t vest myself in useless conversion attempts

Patric_MasterBateman · 2019-09-09T23:30:51+00:00

I always thought it was funny that BRAD PITT say "we've been all raised by television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won't and we're slowly learning that fact"

redditer0 · 2019-09-10T19:17:16+00:00

Some things are true but they create negative emotions.

People don't like negative emotions, specially women. So anything that brings negative emotions should considered "false", because logic doesn't matter. And men will white knight anything that makes women feel bad, because they don't see an argument but an attack.

Also, for both sexes is hard to analize something in an objective way if it's related with them.

SKRedPill · 2019-09-11T07:16:36+00:00

Only a man struck by a bolt of red lightning actually has the experience of knowing. All others are Disney dreamers. Look, they put that man up on the cross only 2000 years ago because they didn't agree with what he said. What makes you think we've changed?

StevenConfident · 2019-09-11T13:00:53+00:00

“I see in the fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars, advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of the history man, no purpose or place, we have no Great war, no Great depression, our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives, we've been all raised by television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won't and we're slowly learning that fact. and we're very very pissed off.”

Said the dude who is now a multimillionaire movie god.

But yeah, it wasn't very smart talking about the Wall to women who have been conditioned to believe that they'll still be beautiful at 50, that men prefer "mature" and "experienced" women, etc. Truth be told, they probably don't actually believe that to begin with, but you didn't have to rub their faces in it. Sometimes it's just nicer for them to live in their delusion, y'know?

What I've found though is that younger women often are more open to several TRP concepts. I've had multiple cases where they totally acknowledge the Wall, hypergamy, branchswinging, etc. Not in those terms, obviously.

Men, on the other hand... It REALLY depends whether they have the Nice Guy mentality or not.

Sickem_roy · 2019-09-09T05:51:46+00:00

I try to have deep conversations with people and it’s like “well fuck” when someone can’t even talk with me about evolution, and why just maybe why humans are incapable of monogamy. So many people putting up a wall. Pussies in my opinion.

the-brd · 2019-09-09T06:22:53+00:00

TRP and Fight Club had a huge impact on me. Both hit hard hehe

mrevr · 2019-09-09T07:43:45+00:00

So what's the basis of the red pill ?

note: For some who is willing to learn

AshyLarry27 · 2019-09-09T14:52:51+00:00

Solipsism, hypergamy, AND the wall . . . blows my mind that we STILL get people here who think you can go around and OVERTLY explain these concepts to the general population so flippantly. OF COURSE there will be blow back. The concepts explained here are on par with trying to explain to someone how "yeah I know you think 2+2=4, but actually it's not 4, it's 5. You have to look at it like this and factor in all this other stuff!" You're forcing someone to challenge their deeply routed subconscious thoughts on dating that have been embedded in their minds for YEARS.

The closest you can get is giving friends a different angle of thinking, as if coming from a curious stand point where you challenge modern dating from a joking angle. Bill Burr and Patrice O'neal were the best at this. You go only so far, then you step back. Those who will listen will continue to poke and prod at you, not in an angry or challenging manner, but a more naturally curious one. And you only continue to leave bread crumbs. The ones willing to listen are most likely people who have dated around and have had a skepticism to monogamy themselves. You ultimately still NEVER actually bring up TRP it self. They'll find it on their own.

On a side note. Why are we still red-pilling people? Why do you want to add to the competition pool? You know what you know, there is only so much pie in that box to go around.

Stron2g · 2019-09-09T05:20:38+00:00

The red pill is just the surface tbh. Try having a critically minded, logical discussion about the truth behind 9/11, modern vaccines, the pharmaceutical industry, the finite resource facade, etc and watch people give you the same exact reaction.

What you said is correct; people who are not ready for the truth will be absolutely blind to a perspective that counters their current beliefs - even in the face of painfully blatant evidence.

[deleted] · 2019-09-09T12:37:15+00:00

What I don't understand is why you guys go to all this effort to get pussy.

It is easy. It is called Tinder. No need for a degree in female psychology. Just date and bang. Done.

The irony is if you put as much time into making more money as TRP, you would have more pussy.

Andgelyo · 2019-09-10T03:18:13+00:00

If you’re telling people left and right about “fight club” then you are a complete piece of shit turd with the IQ of an ant.

Seriously, telling post wall women about the wall, in a hot tub? You were doomed the second you opened your mouth.

Learn about omertà. Do not speak about the truth. Most people can not handle it.

ikarianarsi · 2019-09-09T10:49:21+00:00

I would never even get in a hot tub with someone over 26. What were you even doing in there?

mette13 · 2019-09-09T04:11:34+00:00

Pretty sure using fictional references is against the rules on this sub.

dumbkidaccount · 2019-09-09T16:21:22+00:00

Self improvement is masturbation

FanaticMind · 2019-09-09T17:35:48+00:00

Delete this post bro. these things are basic and common sense, you should have read the first rule of redpill if you didn't understand it anyways. It isn't r.trp level.

ezio6 · 2019-09-09T11:24:20+00:00

Bro u just need more social calibration, I learned from experience you can tell your friends about redpill once they get betrayed by their gf or wife or whte, no need to go philosopical about it, life is just a game, PUA + redpill knowledge helps

DoctorBees69 · 2019-09-09T12:42:54+00:00

Do we have to have this post every time somebody watches fight club for the first time?

MoneyMakin · 2019-09-09T10:35:08+00:00

Dude, you’re trash. Enjoy your run while it lasts because you’re going to alienate everyone worth anything in a short period of time

idontmiind · 2019-09-09T04:10:14+00:00

convince me to read this through. Your title and first line turned me off what's new? tldr

Platinum247365 · 2019-09-09T13:38:53+00:00

Are 32 and 34 really post wall age for women?

jfastman · 2019-09-09T09:57:31+00:00

TIL 32-34 year old women are post wall.

DJNAHNAHNAH · 2019-09-09T05:56:29+00:00

What’s the wall again? What age? I think I’m there boys... comrades. ....

Title	Tyler Durden Philosophy
Author	22oregon22
Upvotes	460
Comments	170
Date	September 9, 2019 3:58 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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