Am I a low status man?

jsbach123 · 2022-03-24T09:46:50+00:00

Here's the deal. You don't need high status to be attractive. You only need potential for it.

For example, lots of guys in college get seriously laid even though they're penniless, jobless, have huge debts and have no status (even worse than you as a cashier). That proves it's not your current status or situation that matters to women but where they think you're heading.

There's nothing wrong working as a cashier as long as you demonstrate you have greater ambitions and motivations. You must convey a strong sense of destiny and are working towards it. I'm sorry you have a learning disability. But many people with it can still succeed in various fields.

5_7pickup · 2022-03-24T10:15:30+00:00

You dont need career or money to sleep with women. I sleep with women all the time and they never know what I do for a living.

I think the most genuine attraction is via no wealth or status. Thats when a girl truly likes you for who you are. Thats why I actively dont disclose to women what I do since I do make alot of money.

jewip44336 · 2022-03-24T13:35:03+00:00

Optimism is an advantage. Stay positive and hopeful. You're going to make it. Dark negative thoughts will make you depressed. Commit to going to the gym and commit to following and financing the right diet. When you're fit, women will approach you. You don't need to approach them.

And you may also visit a prostitute if that's legal in your country.

hookedonfonicsmunky · 2022-03-24T10:49:22+00:00

Idk i recently started walking around like i'm better than everyone even tho im far from it haha, not true in the slightest but it's helping me😂

WagerGoat · 2022-03-24T10:48:19+00:00

High value isn’t dependent on money, it’s about your morals, honor and how you can carry yourself.

justuraveragestatue · 2022-03-24T11:46:57+00:00

For some women social and financial status is explicitly important. This pool of women will not be a match for you as a girlfriend (perhaps casual sex, if you learn game). But for other women it’s not important.

Generally, what women seek in a man is someone who can make them feel emotionally in a certain way. And you don’t need money or status to make women feel this way. Women are attracted to your personality. When women are attracted to men with social and financial statuts it’s generally bcuz these things are indicators to them of the man’s personality, it’s not really the status or the money itself they find attractive (only a minority of superficial women), but the fact that this man has traits that make him succesful. It’s the man’s internal personality traits, not the concrete external things.

Your luck is that in modern Western societies women are able to be financially independant of men, and so the status and financial element with a man is not so important. If you can culture those personality traits within yourself, then you will become more attractive to women, making them feel emotional attraction to you. The truth is still of course, that for alot of women the external factors matter (finances and social status), so there is a pool of women that you can’t get with as partners. But all the other women, it’s mostly about your personality traits. And anybody can work on that.

Imo the best way for a man to initiate the journey of improving his self worth so that he can begin to culture his healthy personality traits is: go get some casual sex! That’ll give you the impetus.

mjornir · 2022-03-24T16:50:33+00:00

Status is only useful insofar that it gives you confidence. It is more than possible to be confident without it. You have to just find other reasons to be confident-you worked your ass off and paid your debt, for example, and that’s a great reason right off the bat

lancer000 · 2022-03-24T19:20:39+00:00

It doesn't matter. You can keep making all those excuses about poverty, your job, your complaining & stuff... Or you can start making small changes to increase your status.

Look, I'm not a successful guy & have been a loser all my childhood & teenage days due to multiple reasons. But recently, I found that it all can change of you're willing to be patient and put in the effort. In the end, your status is what you choose.

theseoulplayer · 2022-03-25T08:24:21+00:00

So my question is to you, if I am interpreting this correctly? And If I should be low status, how can a poor man still be attractive to women? Or is a poor man doomed to be lonely? I am looking forward to your advice.

I lived for about a year as a homeless busker, crashing in some dude's small 4x6 side room. Had a mattress on the floor, a backpack with all my clothes in it, and a guitar. Got laid like a champion that whole year.

Status is a perception, not a fact. I played up the bohemian image. I grew a disgustingly long beard. I told them we would have a fancy rooftop dinner, then served them cup ramen and cheap beer. I would bring my guitar around with me and make up nonsense songs with the girl's name in it. If I didn't remember a girl's name, I just called her Muse because she was my musical inspiration.

This isn't to brag, but to point out that a job, car, or bank account (or the lack of) don't matter unless you want them to. By leaving society behind, I created my own status. That is immensely powerful, and anyone can choose to do this.

There are two aspects to status: 1) Your status, and 2) The frame that determines that status. Are you higher status than a lion? I don't know, lions don't even fit into the frame of our society! So, similarly to the lion, when you reject the frame entirely that society provides, you can create your own frame and your own status within it.

This won't work for everyone, but it's a very useful tool and thought experiment for those who are concerned with their own status in society.

King-Britton · 2022-03-24T13:57:20+00:00

So i work as a support worker for adults with learning disabilities, and most of these people have relationships. There is truly someone out there for everyone and you just need to throw yourself into the world and expose yourself.

When it comes to relationships, it’s likely your perceived status from others limits your options to those of a similar status, this is because if you were a 10/10 dating a 5/10 there will always be that feeling of inadequacy and comparison from your partner.

The higher status you are perceived as the more girls you can sleep with, but your relationship options are still generally limited to those who are a similar status, so basically if relationship is the goal, you are not really at a disadvantage especially if you are willing to settle for someone if a similar income/mental capacity

Chabubu · 2022-03-24T18:01:09+00:00

What jobs and learning have you had trouble with?

My brother dropped out of college and absolutely was not a book leaner. But he learned welding and became very good and well paid.

There are many people welding and doing high value construction/trade jobs that would score below average on an IQ test.

Maybe try to explore those? Figure out what you struggle with and then figure out how to overcome it.

Do you struggle understanding when someone explains something? Do you struggle remembering and have to be told the same thing 10 times? Whatever it is, identify it, and accept it. And then think of ideas that you can use to overcome or work around it.

Maybe you can write notes, set alarms, record what someone is telling you and then go back later and re-listen and write it down. Etc.

Live-Ad-6309 · 2022-03-24T21:51:20+00:00

If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

Artist-in-Residence- · 2022-03-26T05:20:19+00:00

For someone with a supposed learning disability, you seem to write quite well, better than half the people on this subreddit lol.

There are many different types of intelligences and IQ tests are based specifically on logical-mathematical intelligence and pattern recognition, but by all means, it's not the only intelligence out there.

You might want to check out these sites to learn more:

https://www.simplypsychology.org/multiple-intelligences.html

https://www.iberostar.com/en/inspiration-guide/wellness/eight-types-of-intelligence/

Firstly, you must find out what your strengths are cater to them and also which are your weaknesses and also recognise them and develop them.

If you lack physical coordination, you might be weak in bodily-kinesthetic intelligence which plays a large role in developing a synchronised brain. People who are slow learners have been studied to lack synchronisation in their brain. Doing cross-crawl exercises strengthens your corpus callosum- the part that connects the two hemispheres of your brain. When both hemispheres are synchonised, learning becomes flawless and easy.

Cross-crawl exercises https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCWP0yZld0

Overall, you can also develop your intuition and find out what you're drawn to and which sectors you find you want to learn more about instead of thinking about money. Since I assume you have a fairly low-stress job as a cashier, you can take time to discover more of things that interest you and meet people with similar interests first instead of pressurising yourself to find a romantic partner.

redditisforgeeks1 · 2022-03-24T10:38:52+00:00

All the dudes lying in here lol. Technically you are low value. Why would a woman settle for a man in his 30s who is a cashier with no prior dating experience

stanthemilkman88 · 2022-03-24T13:04:05+00:00

Be tall be Jacked. What learning disability?

carlos1973633826 · 2022-03-24T19:04:02+00:00

Yes you are low value. Value is not just your job but your level of intelligence/looks/confidence/humor. In order for you to be considered high value you have to be much better off then the other guys around you if we are talking strictly finance.

Don’t use you learning disability as an excuse. I know it’s easy for me to say. But by your writing I can tell you, that your not completely dumb. Just like you work hard on your writing skills you can work hard on getting a better job and the dating life you want. Just look at legendary PUA Owen Cook. He had autism and his son does too. But he worked his ass off to build a multi million dollar company and a dating life most guys envy

Slasheerr · 2022-03-24T16:49:58+00:00

Here's something that I find really hard in attracting women and need answers for.

I've always heard that if you play "hard to get" or "not interested" then women will genuinely find you attractive.

But in my case, it isn't WORKING! When I act like I'm not attracted then she goes on to do her workouts or if I see someone out in public, they keep on doing their regular thing that they were doing prior to me seeing them.

It's like, It only works for guys that women do genuinely find attractive and at that point, men should just pursue them because there's no point in trying to act like hard to get.

I'm super confused about all of this and how this works? Because it clearly isn't working for me.

What do you do to let women know that you're not interested when you actually are? Do you stop looking at them? We already don't talk, since I'm talking about gym here so people are usually doing their workouts but some men still get numbers and probably get laid. And find a wife maybe!

Can someone please help with this?

RProgrammerMan · 2022-03-24T18:47:16+00:00

I think what I’ve heard is women most highly value the skills that enable a man to become wealthy. Wealth is attractive because it signals those skills. They are attracted to competent men. This makes sense because they want a man that can lead a family and provide for their children.

That being said I think you need to work on yourself. So college didn’t work out for you, why haven’t you been pursuing another career? Learn some kind of marketable skill. Could be working on cars, plumbing, fixing iphones, remodeling houses, anything. College is only one pathway to success, it didn’t work for you, so now you need to try something new. Being a cashier isn’t a long term plan.

ZlatanAgrees · 2022-03-24T11:46:29+00:00

man just improve your face you dont need anything else. just look good and thats it.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-03-24T11:07:11+00:00

I think you really need help with your problems. It is okay to seek professional help.

VergilArcanis · 2022-03-24T15:03:59+00:00

Have you considered following a solitary path? You may not need anyone else, but having friends is nice. The self reliance factor may help.

It's in the letting go of trying to find a relationship that you find people

bluedrygrass · 2022-03-24T17:02:45+00:00

But according to this theory, men with jobs like mine are regarded low status.

This is correct, yes. You can see the reaction on people's faces when they ask you what is your job.

2022-03-24T22:07:43+00:00

“Value” is based on making a girl feel good emotions, charisma, confidence etc. You do not need to be objectively high value to get women, even high value women. I’ve seen models (high value women according to society) with guys who don’t have interesting lives, are skinny / overweight, don’t have a good job and don’t have any kind of fashion sense. Society considers these guys “low value” but the girls don’t because he made them feel attracted to him. All the “you need to be a high value man” stuff is mostly social conditioning. Yes it helps, but you don’t need it.

Icy-Asparagus1278 · 2022-03-25T00:44:03+00:00

Imo, get your finances in order asap. Having disposable income won't make you get laid but it will open up opportunities to get you to be extremely attractive, esp if you don't have good baseline genetics.

source - a guy who almost failed out of uni twice and finally got his finances settled later in life

anzelian · 2022-03-25T05:12:40+00:00

Dont focus on women. Focus on making your life better. Women may be a motivation but should never be the goal. Focus on self and youll see that women will just come to you naturally.

mylifeisthewurst · 2022-07-09T18:55:53+00:00

Don't think of yourself as a low status man even if everyone tells you you are. Because considering yourself low status will just trap you there.

Just take one day at a time and remember that you're an awesome human being. You can't make your debt disappear all at once, you can't get a better job as soon as you want it, and you can't instantly become a master of seduction. But you can and should take steps toward those things every day.

Also, I'd consider working as a security guard if I were you. You generally don't have to do a whole lot, you will definitely make more money than working as a cashier, you might get opportunities to improve your social skills by having to interact with people as part of the job, and women can be drawn to a man in uniform (as long as the man is in at least average shape). I'm a security guard and I'm disabled as shit due to having survived numerous head injuries and being on the autism spectrum so in that regard you and I are very similar; my disabilities also prevented me from finishing college but "luckily" I wasn't even able to advance beyond community college so no debt for me.

Edit: damn I just saw that dude deleted his profile. Oh well I'm leaving this comment up anyway.

Title	Am I a low status man?
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Date	March 24, 2022 9:36 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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