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[–]fookincharlie 212 points213 points214 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good job dude 👊. You did more than 99% of dudes would do and approached an attractive chick. Maybe you'll only get positive interactions with 2/3 but you did the hardest part.
[–]DontCallMeTopher 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Def a win. Now when OP crosses paths with her he can smile and causally be like “hey [name] how’s it going?” quick and in passing and keep it moving since he already introduced himself, they aren’t strangers anymore. Nice job OP
[–]Scarecrow101 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. Congrats dude a step forward, even if burned, is still a step forward! also you wont be forever thinking "what if"
[–]maxpossimpible21 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's a numbers game. Great that you found the courage to walk up to her 💪💪💪 Think of it this way: You lose 10 minutes of your time, if you do this 10-20 times, you've lost 3 hours. And maybe you've found the love of your life.
That's a pretty good time investment instead of sitting on tinder for hours upon hours... chatting with girls that get literally ten messages per minute from horny dudes.
[–]yo_saturnalia 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What did you ask? What did she say? You have literally given zero info
[–]curisax 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
i think people don't tend to include actual verbals in their field reports anymore becuse redditorts will always just use that as teh reason for the rejection, no matter what. If he opens direct adn says 'hi, I thought you were cute', people say 'never tell a girl she looks cute! Open indirect with a comment on her clothes'. Then if he opens indirect with a comment on her clothes and gets rejected, people comment 'never comment on a girls clothes! that makes you sound gay! Open by telling her she's hot!' and it goes around in circles forever lol
Also, the general idea nowadays seems to be that what you say doesn't even really matter, adn that's it's basically all about her attraction to you teh second she sees you kind of thing. If she's attracted, whatever you say will 'work', and conversely, if she's not, whatever you say will fail
[–]yo_saturnalia -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s a whole lot of BS. Even Gigachad will get arrested if he asks a random girl, babe wanna fuck in the bathroom stall in a coffee shop .
[–]Mundane_Natural5131 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you think is better? Im thinking about approaching this girl at the gym and just being honest and telling her i find her attractive so i can get the doubt out the way and not pretend to be her friend for a month just to get a no later when i could have gotten it in the beginning
[–]simbuah 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not zero info but definitely not enough to understand the full context
[–]Liberaler 59 points60 points61 points 3 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
your analysis might be wrong. Don't be so negative
maybe she was just nervous or overwhelmed. Maybe you forgot to smile because you were nervous and therefore came across a little weird.
don't judge her reaction so quickly. There are women, who react that way and still give you the number and meet up with you in the end. Others react positively and flake.
[–]conker1264 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
I mean yeah I’ve considered this, was planning on saying hi again and trying to have another conversation the next time I see her but I’m not getting my hopes up. Mainly because she didn’t break eye contact, in my experience they usually look elsewhere if uninterested
[+]RedditsOlderBrah -18 points-17 points-16 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
seriously dude? unceasing, unbroken eye contact is what you give to a threat. nothing about that interaction was positive. leave her alone.
[–]Kronuk 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Unbroken eye contact just means someone is giving you their undivided attention. It’s not good or bad. I’d say being looked at at all is better than being completely ignored which is a possibility in the gym.
[–]RedditsOlderBrah -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
if you think 2 minutes of intense staring is good active listening then there is literally nothing i can say to change your mind.
[–]Kronuk 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not what I said. You’re also twisting this interaction into something it wasn’t. Just a harmless chat. The way you’re reacting sounds like you’re coming from a place of fear of interaction, or even approaching strangers, which is illogical. You simply cannot live if you never talk to others.
[–]RedditsOlderBrah -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you might be onto something. maybe not fear... the average length of eye contact in a comfortable conversation is 3.3 seconds. if a woman i'm talking to exceeds that by about 116 seconds that definitely unnerves me.
[+]RedditsOlderBrah -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Alternatively, when someone spends 2 minutes giving every indication that they would rather be anywhere else, leave the ball in their court and don't harass them again.
[–]Liberaler 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
you are right a guy should know, when his presence is unwanted. Especially, in a sensitive area like the gym. Here he should be extra careful.
but in general, politely talking to someone is not harassment. Saying that would be an insult to people, who suffer from real harassment.
my point was not that he necessarily should talk to her again. What I wanted to say is, if he approaches someone, he should not hesitate to go for the number, only because her signals seem not perfect.
[–]TaKaZT 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A woman should also know when her presence is unwanted, or it applies to guys only?
[–]Liberaler 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are right. I was just refering to our example.
[–]justadudechllin1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It applies to women too indeed
[–]RedditsOlderBrah -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
but in general, politely talking to someone is not harassment.
literally never said this.
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[–]RedditsOlderBrah -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
er, yeah, politely talking to someone is not holding them hostage for 2 minutes while they make relentless eye contact and respond monosyllabically. it terrifies me that women have to deal with some of you people.
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[+]RedditsOlderBrah -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
yeah buddy big thumbs up.
hey man just got back from the grass area where i put some game down on a hot chick. she called the police in the foetal position what do you think my next move is?
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[–]RedditsOlderBrah -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what so you'll help our gym buddy recover from a setback but you won't help me? hypocrisy.
[–]pierre_WaP 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You’re nuts (@RedditsOlderBrah)
[–]RedditsOlderBrah -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
yeah man it is fucking psychotic to distress women in public and then ask for encouragement to do it more. i should stop now.
[–]pierre_WaP3 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I agree with you that the woman he approached is likely not into him. And if I were him, I wouldn’t talk to her again. But what he did was not harassment. 2 min talk is nothing (even if she feels uncomfortable). It’s only harassment if he continued past 2 mins
[–]RedditsOlderBrah0 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
lol ok i didn't know you could scare the shit out of women for up to 2 minutes. good to know
[–]ozzzy83 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! Often girls who seem bored or cold, will give you their number and go out with you, while those that seem open and positive would reject you or flake.
[–]pierre_WaP 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t worry mate. You tried. That’s all that counts, and now you know king!
It is likely she is not into you. When a girl’s eyes are bulging intently with no smile, I interpret that as fear. Especially one word answers.
But that doesn’t matter. Move onto the next woman. Keep swiping through them my man.
[–]caesarfecit 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The riddle with reading interactions like these, is often the way we behave when we're crushing on someone to an embarassing degree is often very similar to when we're militantly disinterested in someone.
Some other poster suggested that unbroken eye contact is a sign of feeling threatened. If this was the proper read, the rest of her behavior would reflect that. She'd exit the conversation at her first opportunity, physically put distance between you guys, and otherwise give off even more awkward signs. She'd also be unlikely to give you her name.
This actually sounds like garden-variety awkwardness. Sounds like she was trying to be social, but was all distracted/preoccupied by working out or whatever else was going on in her life, so her cues were both ambiguous and transparent.
What the other guy overlooks is unbroken eye contact can often be a sign of extreme attraction, especially if preceded by a bunch of cross-room glances. In fact, the longer and harder a girl holds eye contact with you, the more powerful a sign of interest it is.
Now I'm not saying this girl is for sure crushing on you. I'm saying it's possible. You haven't given us a ton to go on, and her signals are very mixed/unclear.
My advice is this:
If she's into you, she'll re-engage sooner or later. If not, she'll do her best to ignore you. You did your job, you approached and broke the ice. If she wants something to happen, she knows she needs to give you something to go on. Play it cool and wait for her to give you a sign.
In the future, this is also why it is a good idea not to stall when you want to chat a girl up. The longer you wait, the greater the odds one or both of you will psych yourself out. That could very well be what happened here.
[–]immataxpayer 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Better oops than what if.
[–]DontCallMeTopher 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always
[–]YouGotTangoed 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Next time think twice about opening girls at the gym. You have everything to lose, not much to gain. Girls love the attention at gyms, and maybe some will be receptive, but most times it’s better to approach after you’ve left the gym. As for her, she now knows her value is up at the gym, and you are left feeling worse off
[–]ZirkonX 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a fucking supportive community 👍👌
[–]Yarmanite 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was probably wondering why you were staring at her
[–]Magneto_1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And that’s how it starts, keep on approaching until you are good at it!
[–]Longjumping-Plant546 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The other thing - a girl’s mood shifts a lot. She may one day be all head over heels and another day quite not feeling it. As someone said already, she will initiate again if interested. Or maybe just smile or say hi the next time to give a gentle nudge. If she’s cold going forward, better to drop.
[–]conker1264 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I’m definitely not gonna try a 3rd time, if she’s cold next time I see her then yeah I’ll just drop it and move on
[–]incognito3107 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was it really THE MOST awkward? You approach a girl, break couple of words, find out she is not that responsive, said smooth goodbye. What is so bad here?
[–]froze_gold 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Could've been social paralysis from getting approached so unexpectedly. Most guys, including myself, never approach in the gym. Mad respect
[–]Trooth_Sayer216 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kudos for going for it and kudos again for keaving the interaction when you felt that it wasnt your way. It talks guts dude and self awareness to leave an interaction in due time.
[–]MayhemReignsTV 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some women don’t know how to react. They are not generally used to it and are almost never expecting it. I just got the number of this hot chick I was sort of acquaintances with years ago. I would have never been her type back in the day nor had the guts to approach her. Here’s why I mentioned this. At first, she was stunned and actually froze. At that point, you have to keep the conversation moving but don’t just move off to another topic. Because it just sounded like the person that you approached was feeling awkward because she just wasn’t used to it. In my case, I was the last person she expected it from. I mean we are talking close to 20 years here since I seen this girl and I used to be shy as hell. She even used to make fun of me a little bit. You can’t really blame her because I make fun of how I used to be 😂 I think that’s why I regarded her as a possible challenge. But personal progress is always something to be proud of, no matter where you came from.
[–]-TheseHandsDontHaze- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Don’t approach at gyms it’s weird
Get in get out and grab a knarly pump, anywhere else is fine to approach tho
[–]HootingMandrill 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is such frustrating advice, because it's true but I wanna date gym girls dammit. Where else do I meet gym girls??? And don't say online dating because bullshit.
[–]-TheseHandsDontHaze- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree with this, gym is not the place.
The gym should be your escape from the world, why bring more bs into it
[–]conker1264 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I literally said I never do but it seemed like she was looking at me at several occasions which I picked up as a sign to do so. And even then I never hit on her
[–]Newb3258 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't listen to this dude... You can talk to females wherever you see them. There's no worse feeling than the regret of not talking to a cute chick.
Yeah man, grab life by the fucking balls and approach women at the gym. If you do it with some tact then it’s not a big deal at all
[–]-TheseHandsDontHaze- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No reason to make the gym an awkward place in the future for yourself.
Inherent risk with approaching at the gym like anywhere but, the gym is a special place to get away from the world and relax
Plenty of other women out there no need to have that invade your zen space. It’s dumb
I’m aware, that’s why it was just a friendly chat related to the gym. Nothing wrong with making gym friends
[–]Think_History_5682 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She likely has a bf
[–]Alphachadbeard 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Appreciate you just moving on when she gave you the deadface it won't always go that way baby stay sharp!
[–]sussykeke 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She could've been checking you out and was just too shy to interact, or you caught her off guard or whatever.
You mentioned you usually approach girls at the gym in a friendly manner.. which kinda implies you approached this girl in a different manner. Maybe you were trying too hard to be pickup-y instead of just trying to have a conversation with a woman
Or she really did not like you and was just staring at you for whatever reason.
Could be anything, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Don't take it personally, if you were hotter/richer/better you'd still get rejected a lot by women.
[–]curisax 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it's a numbers game You took your shot and she wasn't into you. It's all good. Doesn't sound THAT awkward either, tbh
There's nothing you could have done.
On to the next!!
[–]Vampire-circus 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have to say.. I zone out at the gym and I probably look like I’m staring at people… just lost in my caffeine riddled mind while I listen to a podcast and try to remember who I am after a heavy lift. I then feel like a creep when I notice movement and realize someone was in my line of sight the whole time haha. So she may have been doing something similar. No harm no foul, just is what it is.
[–]rumsticks 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t approach at gym man. People are there to hustle not socialise..
[–]Professional_Base117 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well you could try again by saying the last convo you had was kinda awkward. It might get a giggle outta her. If it doesn’t then you failed twice .At that point i would just cancel my gym sub lmao.
[–]WanyCaleb -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
2 minutes isn't enough time to gauge proper interest. You wanna talk for some time like 10 minutes, get her to properly warm up and if she's still cold then peace out! And remember it's only awkward if you make it. Thank you and good night!
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[–]WanyCaleb -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
if you get kicked out.
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[–]WanyCaleb -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course I do! You're the one not making sense.
[–]TodoBienTodoBonito1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
... well, no, it seems you don't. You were liable to get kicked out whether or not that actually happens, because the word is an assessment of risk/likelihood, not a statement that it will definitively occur.
If you bet all your savings on red at a roulette table, you were liable to lose your savings, even if that doesn't end up happening.
That's... literally how the word works. Stating that someone isn't making sense because they're using a word you don't understand isn't a good look for you lol.
[–]ftdrain -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless she gave you blatant signs, dont be so quick to judge disinterest, we vastly, I repeat vastly overestimate our ability to judge what other people are thinking. Listen to this weeks episode on Hidden Brain
[–]Jasonhardon -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she’s hot she may only seem disinterested until you prove them otherwise. That’s the world they live in. Hotter the girl the faster you usually need to close. Why because they have options everywhere they go and memories disappear fast. So you should’ve closed much like a Joey Tribianni would do. It’s funny to watch on television but what he actually does is what a quintessential PUA does. Picks them up on the spot. Why? because later is not guaranteed
[–]Newb3258 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
conker1264, can you please state your height, weight....? You said she was checking you out and that still may be possible.... I don't mean to hate on short guys or frail guys, but I think in a gym setting physical specimens just have a tremendous edge.
5’6, 155lbs. I’m short but height has never really been an issue for me in the past as my bodies pretty big for my size
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