STUDY finds that women are "significantly" more likely to be verbally and physically abusive to men than vice versa

jamesac11 · 2021-04-16T18:01:40+00:00

A generation of men were raised to value and respect women, while the same generation of women were raised to value and respect themselves. The result is of no surprise.

Accomplished_GoalY · 2021-04-16T15:21:47+00:00

Good data for the UK. It comes to a similar conclusion for data from the US.

Here's the link to the actual study, as The Daily Mail has a bit of excess in ads, and doesn't provide the link: Original Study

Summary of UK study:

For Intimate Partner Violence women make up 71% of perpetrators in the UK. This is despite the fact both men and women show similar violence levels to non-partners, with men being 0.8x as violent to a partner than a non-partner, and women being 2.66x more violent to partners than non-partners.

However, the proportion of the sample perpetrating one or more acts of both forms of aggression was 9.2%, and it was similar for men and women. Over twice this percentage perpetrated one or more acts of IPV only (18.4%), and this was heavily skewed for women with 24.5% falling into this category, compared to 7.5% of men. source

Summary of US study:

For domestic abuse women make up 70% of non-reciprocal domestic violence, and perpetrate it at 2.3x the rate.

In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women adjusted odds ratio: 2.3*, 95% confidence interval: 1.9, 2.8. source

MarsRisen · 2021-04-17T00:39:44+00:00

This is old news. Erin Pizzey who opened the world's first women's shelter, said this...

"Soon after establishing her first refuge, Pizzey asserted that much of the domestic violence was reciprocal. She reached this conclusion when she asked the women in her refuge about their violence, only to discover most of them were equally violent or more violent than their husbands."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

She's now an Anti Feminist and receives constant death threats.

mrfortran · 2021-04-16T16:18:40+00:00

I got physically and verbally attacked by my ex-wife multiple times. I would hold her to avoid being hurt, but she would do me more harm if she could. The worse part is not the physical attack, but the shame and fear of it. Shame for being attacked and not allowed to do anything. And fear because she would always start screaming that I was the one attacking her. My lucky was that she is too dumb to learn English and could not articulate the fabricated story that I hit her.

SonOfHibernia · 2021-04-16T19:40:24+00:00

Once they feel safe, they take advantage of it with abuse

BeastMcQueen · 2021-04-16T16:40:52+00:00

Yep. But people don't care because men are disposable.

Toaster224 · 2021-04-16T17:28:44+00:00

This is happening because decades of feminist rhetoric has taught women that violence is only a problem when it's male on female. So many women think physical aggression is appropriate when their man isn't behaving how they'd like.

rahsoft · 2021-04-16T21:28:18+00:00

‘"Now there is more support for men and more of them are feeling comfortable coming forward.’ "

I find that to be a vague statement to make since I have followed U of Cumbria studies( and the other one in I think it was Lancashire). Because I looked a the results( I participated in the studies) and the result were a majority of men were afraid to come forward or report.

a uk study done in 2015 or 2017 showed that the majority of men especially fathers had no confidence in the judiciary, the police or even the DV support groups hence they didn't come forward.

In late 2017/18 several welsh assembly members took legal action against the DV support group "respect" because they discriminated against men by refusing to offer support( they had claimed that they had statistics claiming that men were majority perpetrators from the UK equality commission).

I think very little has changed in support for male victims of domestic violence since the recent Domestic Violence bill consultation committee sought to exclude groups representing male victims such as mankind, and not lets not forget Boris "Orinoco womble" Johnson statement about extra funding for female victims of DV and " a few men" which was just a platitude to avoid being called an idiot( which he is anyway) or a sexist..

OzoneLaters · 2021-04-17T01:41:43+00:00

Turns out all that stuff about how men used to beat women was actually because men were protecting themselves from violent women...

Lopsided_Tomatillo27 · 2021-04-16T17:36:36+00:00

I love how the latter half of the article has fuckall to do with the article's premise. Also: ‘Now there is more support for men and more of them are feeling comfortable coming forward.’ Um, where? Coming forward to whom?

HeadHigh71 · 2021-04-17T00:26:41+00:00

You need a study to tell you that?

Alex-xoxo666 · 2021-04-17T01:41:14+00:00

Not a surprise, remember when we were told that if a girl hits us that means they like us?

cabsmom2020 · 2021-04-16T14:43:04+00:00

I wouldn't doubt that he numbers are nearly the same for men and women, but the study was a very limited number of people. I think if we are going to doubt the validity of the 97% study of women and sexual assault (which I doubt), we can't put much stock into this study.

I pretty much adhere to the belief that a lot of the issues that humans face aren't gender specific issues. I'm not saying all, I'm saying a lot.

However, I do see that the violence against men is not looked at in a serious way by many people while it's damaging many men.

_SirAugustDeWynter · 2021-04-16T22:32:48+00:00

Can confirm! I was in an abusive relationship for 4+ years. Finally got out last year. Yelling, brow-beating, throwing stuff (including glass items), straight up swung at me a few times, progressively isolate me from my family, church family, and other healthy influences in my life. Etc, etc

0/10, would not recommend doing THAT again!

JustJamie- · 2021-04-16T23:21:41+00:00

Boys used to be taught how to be a gentleman. Girls used to be taught how to be a lady. Today men believe that they should not to hit anyone smaller than them. Today women believe it is ok to adopt the bad behavior of bad men in order to get what they want.

nyarlathotep999 · 2021-04-16T23:38:37+00:00

surprise surprise

cheeseronin · 2021-04-17T00:37:26+00:00

It's kinda like cats. Cats bite and scratch and attack their owners all the time, but we think it's funny because they can't do any real damage, when in reality, they're just tiny lions who would kill you if they were 5x the size they are now.

coloradocaniac · 2021-04-17T02:35:07+00:00

Invisibility is the best defense.

Teal_Kitten · 2021-04-17T06:44:44+00:00

this is seriously not a surprise. women just aren't held to the same standard of behaviour as men

zeroicemaze · 2021-04-17T07:02:06+00:00

Survived a female narc and trust me when I say this no one will ever believe that you were a bused by a female its how society wants you to see them innocent angels who do no wrong.

jthomas93_ · 2021-04-17T07:23:55+00:00

No shit! Women are so much more verbal then men

michaelscott1776 · 2021-04-17T10:38:30+00:00

Yet when a domestic dispute call is made the man is always forced to leave by the police

nacho-chonky · 2021-04-16T18:25:54+00:00

And the sky is blue, the amount of abuse I have personally dealt with in previous relationships plus the amount of abuse I’ve watched all my male friends go through in relationships makes this study not surprising at all, women can be and often are extremely abusive

Ghriszly · 2021-04-16T22:19:46+00:00

Lol! I just got banned from femaledatingstrategy for posting here. I actually laughed out loud that they're banning people who don't even use that sub. The toxicity is real

boi-pnd · 2021-04-17T17:01:05+00:00

if a women hits me ima hit them back. i’m all for gender equality, i don’t care what happens to me, i can just fake my death and run away to costa rica or mexico

MensEquality · 2021-04-18T17:15:37+00:00

Finally, it's coming out.

vasekgamescz · 2021-04-16T20:32:27+00:00

Am i the only one NOT surprised, that generations of spoiling women made them the way they are?

Break_Away_1776 · 2021-04-16T20:46:15+00:00

So I commented on this and got banned off of r/OffMyChest for participating in a hate reddit. ROFL, the bias is strong.

skgody · 2021-04-16T20:59:25+00:00

Women feel so safe they can be abusing and then they feel scared and claim they were walking on eggshells.

DolphinsAreOk · 2021-04-16T22:01:26+00:00

Daily Mail though

cheeseronin · 2021-04-16T20:34:15+00:00

Someone go post this in /r/TwoXChromosomes and see how long it takes them to get banned

yoku651 · 2021-04-16T22:16:09+00:00

Well, when you teach little boys that "it's never okay to hit a woman", you are also teaching them to not defend themselves.

And also when you try to say that we should always trust women, you're teaching men that they can't defend themselves or risk going to jail for self-defence (which the woman would spin as assault)

PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE · 2021-04-16T19:42:16+00:00

Not a good look using the daily mail...

Ownyourfreedom · 2021-04-16T19:28:57+00:00

They needed a study for that. It's only been mocked in every stand-up comedy show since the beginning of time; but sure, a study is what everyone needs to convince them there is a problem.🙄

emboldenmen · 2021-04-16T23:37:47+00:00

Extend the legal definition of rape

The current legal definition of rape is penetration with a penis of the vagina, anus or mouth. This definition prevents victims of sexual acts, which did not involve a penis, or physical penetration, from receiving justice. This requirement is outdated and fails to accommodate for these individuals.

More details

We call on the Government to change the definition of rape to include all forms or sexual acts, even when it is non-penetrative and has not involved a penis.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/577794

40moreyears · 2021-04-16T18:45:50+00:00

But most normal people know this. The ones who don’t are either lying, or blind. Or both.

GrandWizardBumtickle · 2021-04-16T19:24:12+00:00

GASP Im so shocked

MarquisdeSeda · 2021-04-16T20:43:16+00:00

CPCac3 · 2021-04-16T22:22:04+00:00

Because men know the court is biased against them

Poikazal · 2021-04-17T02:26:17+00:00

We don’t need a study to confirm that, this is street knowledge. Everyone on Earth knows that women are extremely emotional and are enslaved by their feelings, and as a result run their mouth without thinking. When a husband belts up his wife, most of the time it’s the wife’s fault for continuously running that mouth.

burntkidneybea · 2021-04-16T21:19:14+00:00

I see a big problem with how little this article actually covers, especially with the way people are taking it as conclusive evidence in the comments. It doesn't link the study and doesn't include much info besides the very small sample size.

BuckinFutts · 2021-04-16T23:00:42+00:00

Daily mail is like Facebook News

lunarobservatory · 2021-04-16T17:27:19+00:00

... the daily mail though

turbulance4 · 2021-04-16T19:50:31+00:00

This is bad journalism. The first subheadline contradicts the main headline:

Psychologists found more women are verbally or physically abusive to partner

And != Or. The simple word change changes the entire context of the claim. And the article didn't link the study they are referencing which 1) is a huge red flag and 2) means I can't tell if the main headline or the subheadline was the actual finding of the study (or neither).

realister · 2021-04-16T15:05:14+00:00

Women generally talk way more

EarthlingElf · 2021-04-16T16:09:29+00:00

I think this is more related to culture and region though but the phenomenon certainly exists in some areas.

leachlurker · 2021-04-17T10:06:51+00:00

I love this sub but this is by the daily mail wikis doesn’t respect them as a source and I can’t either

antifeminist3 · 2021-04-19T22:24:56+00:00

The biggest problem I see with abuse, is that women by their nature are more likely to complain about it. So the legislation making verbal abuse/coersion etc includes in domestic abuse legislation will still benefit women and not help men much.

Feminists raise awareness of domestic abuse against women and staff the abuse centres. Decades ago, abuse was ignored for both men and women. Today, because feminists raise awareness for women only, women are more likely to come forward. Even if men and women were equally likely to come forward, the fact that feminists/government/society only raise awareness for women means that women are more likely to come forward and men are less likely to come forward.

Feminists took a problem that was equally ignored for women and men, and by their discrimination created a system that only helps women, and then blame men by saying 'toxic masculinity causes men to not come forward'. By blaming men, feminists draw attention away from the problem they helped to create.

lexaril · 2021-04-16T14:59:51+00:00

This feels to me, as a man, incredibly unlikely.

Aphinoo · 2021-04-17T02:46:47+00:00

babaletta · 2021-04-20T12:25:12+00:00

Well that study is utter rubbish.

STUDY finds that women are "significantly" more likely to be verbally and physically abusive to men than vice versa

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