Brothel-owning-redditor attacked and downvoted for saying women manipulate men

johnny_gunn · 2012-01-23T01:09:22+00:00

Where is he attacked and downvoted?

In the comment thread you linked, his two comments currently have 70 and 44 points, respectively.

rmbarnes · 2012-01-23T00:29:22+00:00

I don't get it.

Sure, people manipulate and fuck over other people all the time. But prostitution is supply and demand... I'd say common retail is far more manipulative than the sex industry, conning less-than-intelligent people to fork out massive monthly payments that they really can't afford.

Some of the comments are logically flawed.

Women prey on men's lust instead of doing an honest day's work.

Well... does that mean that cleaners prey on people's laziness instead of doing an honest day's work?

I dunno... the whole argument seems entirely stupid. It's a viable business... so it will have people taking advantage of each other all over, like all other businesses.

muchachomalo · 2012-01-23T00:15:03+00:00

He never verified himself after 16 hours. If he was legit he wouldn''t be ashamed to post some proof.

DeepFriedChildren · 2012-01-22T23:38:16+00:00

Just to play the devil's advocate, this guy is a brothel owner in a country where that is a reputable job to have. I'm sure what he is saying about the kind of prostitute he is familiar with is accurate. However I don't know if I would hold his opinions on sex-slavery in such high regard, because he is in a completely different sphere from it.

BinaryShadow · 2012-01-22T21:03:08+00:00

What I find funny is how many of those same people scorn when an MRA goes into another thread to bring up topics related to them, yet when something like this happens, the entire feminist reader base of reddit swarms on one topic and attacks it like the black plague.

devotedpupa · 2012-01-23T02:19:48+00:00

I fucking hate everyone in this post and thread. Everyone is too clouded by their hatred of the other gender to say anything semi-rational and all the good point get lost in the vitriol.

Mr-Bugle · 2012-01-22T20:49:19+00:00

Truth hurts

2012-01-23T02:41:01+00:00

Fuck all pimps. Pimps are shit. I downvote all pimps.

Cid420 · 2012-01-23T07:16:18+00:00

Man I'm glad I just made some popcorn before I sat down. That thread is a warzone .

nanomagnetic · 2012-01-23T03:15:10+00:00

You guys do realize that this 'brothel-owner' is being downvoted because he's unverified and no one's taking him seriously, yeah? Oh wait, no you don't. This is r/mensrights...ಠ_ಠ

hardwarequestions · 2012-01-22T21:17:05+00:00

He also denies that sex trafficking hurts women ~~globally~~ {he may not have meant globally, I inferred (not that same thing as a "strawman" for those of you taking fallacies 101) that from his statement about the reports on human trafficking were "hysteria and mostly propaganda"}

No one in this sub, nor he, has been willing to provide any of the supposed data. Only downvotes and accusations of trolling.

Yes, I post in SRS. No, I am not trolling, I am legitimately looking for any studies or data supporting his statement. Downvote if you like, I could give a fuck less.

Clever_Ploy · 2012-01-23T01:54:15+00:00

Does anyone think that sexual liberation and legal brothels go hand-in-hand?

I'm only coming from an equal rights standpoint here, but look at the legal brothels in Nevada: Clean, safe, legal work for what I understand to be great pay. If any given woman or man has a right to their body, sexuality and consent.. why not? Or more accurately, given an individual's rights, what prevents such a legalization other than socially imposed morality? You may not like the idea, I may not like the idea, but does this give us the right to control what others do with their own bodies?

I wonder sometimes, what effect the legalization and regulation of brothels would have on the United States. Obviously, street pimps who rely on coercion, drug addiction and violence to control prostitutes would decrease dramatically. Women and Men who decide to partake in the brothel industry could effectively be protected from assault, rape, and even being ripped off. Everyone could have their privacy, regulations could enforce OH&S standards and individual prostitutes would keep most, if not all, of what they earn. Just like in Vegas.

Of course, religious zealots would lose their minds, that's a given. Some feminists would too. I wonder if we'd see a serious division amoung women? Amoung men? Amoung the LGBT community? Would the sex trade explode in capitalistic competition? Would the institution of marriage, or what's left of it, benefit or decline? What would become of the modern relationship? What would become of the stereotypical man who would otherwise commit solely for sex, or the stereotypical woman who would otherwise commit solely for money, if they could meet halfway without any serious commitment? What would happen to criminal trends involving sexual assault or coercion?

Would there eventually be a dominant nationwide corporation, a world leader and innovator of prostitution? The GE of the sex industry? The Apple of the sex industry? Wealthy, corrupt, and lobbying the government for.. for what? The restriction of puritanical influence over law? Gay rights? Appropriate sex education? Free contraceptive programs? Would casual sex be somehow represented in the stock market? Would there be an effect on the wage gap? How many jobs - from individual prostitutes, to security professionals, to health & safety professionals, to management - would the industry create? How many people - men, women, heterosexual, homosexual - would beeline to join the industry today, if it were legal?

Just food for thought.

pretty_motherfucker · 2012-01-23T15:39:04+00:00

A guy claims to run a brothel in Thailand, offers zero proof and has nothing to say apart from broad statements slandering sex workers. /r/MensRights accuses every rape victim of lying but takes this guy at his word.

The first time one of you idiots cites this to say "actual brothel owners say human trafficking doesn't happen" I'm calling you on that shit.

TheRealPariah · 2012-01-23T09:01:58+00:00

I'd guess it was fake, but OP is hilarious in either case.

malagrond · 2012-01-23T00:36:55+00:00

I'm handing out so many red Bigot tags.

ThePigman · 2012-01-22T23:35:12+00:00

"I got half way through this comment and heard the collective explosion of every head in r/feminism."

Eeeewww,there must be shit all over the walls!

Redditapologist · 2012-01-22T23:45:53+00:00

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2012-01-23T09:02:54+00:00

Thanks for sharing, I wouldn't have seen it otherwise. I liked the part: "A wife in Thailand is very likely (thought not always) to be a dependent. Yes, your wife is going to be a financial liability."

Pretty much any woman that becomes dependant on you is a financial liability. And that's the lesser problem, you can get in jail for life like Hans Reiser.

2012-01-22T23:13:34+00:00

Yep this guy speaks the truth. Now how to get women out of the "raping unsuspecting husbands in family court" fraud business, we could start addressing how men are abused in the U.S..

We should start reforming our own backyard.

Title	Brothel-owning-redditor attacked and downvoted for saying women manipulate men
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Upvotes	141
Comments	170
Date	January 22, 2012 8:14 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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