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Three failed Miss France hopefuls and a feminist group are jointly suing the pageant for selecting beauty queen contestants based on their appearance.

furchfur

October 19, 2021
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/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10108173/Three-failed-Miss-France-hopefuls-SUE-pageant-discrimination.html
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Title Three failed Miss France hopefuls and a feminist group are jointly suing the pageant for selecting beauty queen contestants based on their appearance.
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furchfur

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Date October 19, 2021 7:37 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
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Comments

[–]Dead_Art 232 points233 points234 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"If I can't have it NOBODY CAN"

[–]tenchineuro 90 points91 points92 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

They've already put some women in the UK who posed next to cars out of work, apparently they thought that men enjoyed it and it had to go. Who's next I wonder.

[–]Dead_Art 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They're going after cheerleaders in the states, because **gasp** apparently cheerleaders have sex with football players

[–]tenchineuro 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The NFL cheerleaders, while not gone if you go to the game, are no longer televised except when they come into game play.

[–]SilentSnooper 341 points342 points343 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

That's the fucking entire POINT of a beauty contest. Christ.

[–]MGTOWayoflife 132 points133 points134 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Keep this hush hush bro, you could blow it for all of us losers. If this lawsuit wins I'm going to sue the NBA for me not being able to make it into the league because of my basketball talent or lack there of.

[–]Trick-Struggle-2523 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And I’m gonna sue nasa for not hiring me just because I failed all my classes

[–]Cynotral29 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/usernamechecksout

[–]WingsofSky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn you! Damn you to hell!

;P

lol

[–]dukunt 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And the Mr. Universe contest is a personality contest

[–]DualShocks 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤡🌍

[–]damster05 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they know that

[–]AyoubZahyo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I think beauty is subjective so these types of competitions always didn't make sense to me, and they also wear makeup?

[–]XavierMalory 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Beauty may be subjective down to the smallest details on an individual basis, but (as is the case in any contest) the majority rules on general standards, such as obesity for example.

[–]AyoubZahyo -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I find some obese girls attractive, other I don't, I find some athletic girls attractive, for others I don't, so like I said it's just standards put by society thst add up to nothing

[–]XavierMalory 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It apparently added up to a winner and some rather sore losers, in this case. 😉

[–]AyoubZahyo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My entire comment is showcasing that these competitions don't have meaning in the first place

[–]XavierMalory 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah i see. The whole “to me” bit in your original comment makes it seem more like a personal opinion as opposed to an astute observation on the validity of judging a trait that is completely subjective.

[–]lotsofhubris 97 points98 points99 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Shouldn’t men be allowed to compete then

[–]furchfur[S] 51 points52 points53 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have found the link I was looking for to men's rights.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And why do they have to be French, I'm anti-nationalistic, I nominate Katlin Jenner...women of the year!/s

[–]southerncraftgurl 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yall should sue them because they won't let you in.

[–]p3ngwin 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We already beat women at that :)

[–]Domruck 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

its a bit of an exaggeration op: i read the article in french: its a lawsuit about the contestants not being paid (personal opinion- its a contest, not a job so no pay) and about discrimination like: taler than 1.7m / 5'5; no tattoos; no children; no piercings and never been wed.... The last one, why not its a bit pointless...

By the way they were shut down by one of the highest-ranking french politician women; she said: Les féministes, nous les attendons sur des sujets autrement plus importants, que sont la liberté des femmes, empêchées d'accéder au savoir, à l'espace public, sur le voilement des fillettes, toutes ces libertés fondamentales qui sont aujourd'hui l'objet d'attaques." La parlementaire Les Républicains "aurait voulu entendre les féministes sur l'affaire Mila, par exemple, où elles ont joint leur voix à ceux qui condamnaient le blasphème. Je ne crois pas que lutter contre le concours de Miss France soit de première priorité pour les libertés des femmes."

basicaly: feminists should focus on more important things like freedom, access to knowledge, children wearing burkas and all those fundamental freedoms. she goes on to say she would have liked to hear feminist on the Mila case. she ends by saying : i dont think fighting the miss France pageant is the first priority for freedom of women.

[–]CttCJim 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The Daily Mail exaggerating something to be sensationalist? You don't say!

[–]Domruck 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i know! how out of character is that?

[–]dungeonmonkey69 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Ikr? Like have you met Rupert Murdoch?

[–]Angryasfk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You do realise that The Daily Mail isn’t one of Murdoch’s papers don’t you?

[–]dungeonmonkey69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit really?? I always assumed it was as it's sensationalist af. Sorry my bad.

[–]Angryasfk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It may be sensationalist, but it’s not part of News Corp.

[–]dungeonmonkey69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

As I said, my mistake

[–]Angryasfk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Murdoch’s odd. I’ve always seen him as a “right wing nihilist”, he’s no conservative (although many lefties don’t grasp that). However whilst he maintains sensationalist rags, The Times, for example, remains a quality paper of record. His broadsheet The Australian is probably the closest Australia now has to a quality newspaper (although this says more about the decline of The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age). Not every publication is clickbait garbage, and he doesn’t have the monopoly on that either. Something to bear in mind.

[–]dungeonmonkey69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah 💯. I mean he doesn't even run stuff anymore now Lachlan has taken over. Kinda hard to get used to the changing of the guard. I think I'm just against him on the base principal that the Murdoch empire has such a monopoly on legacy media here and how hard they fight to squash competition. That being said I count the guardian as sensationalist garbage too now. Try to just focus on the independent media like the west report and kangaroo court of Australia etc. My god Fairfax has fallen from grace. Pretty sad to watch

[–]Angryasfk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t like Murdoch very much (I do commend him at being good at what he does). But the hysterical bleatings of the new left against him and anyone who works for him are way over the top! Some of the garbage I’ve heard from these self declared arbiters of right and wrong are way worse than Murdoch has ever been.

And you’re so right about The Guardian! And also The Independent! And the mastheads of the formally quality Fairfax press, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald. Especially in the issues raised here!

As for the Mail. Its quoted a lot because it’s site isn’t paywalled. For example, that obnoxious (and obviously man hating) teacher who barged into the boys changing room in Como was reported in the main Perth newspaper, The West Australian. However The West has a paywall. So the Mail report was linked to. Sadly it meant some believed it was made up, which it wasn’t. But the Mail story was the most detailed available without a paywall. Just the times we live in.

[–]Nathaniel66 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea but the point is...you don't like the rules, don't participate, wtf is the problem? They can run their own beauty contest without any rules.

[–]Domruck 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a *feminist* beauty contest? shivers

[–]KillhappyJenn 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

… never been wed.... The last one, why not its a bit pointless...

Because traditionally a woman’s hymen was considered her most attractive feature.

[–]Domruck 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah but this is a bit BS, innit ? this rule should be abolished because its just plain stupid....

[–]KillhappyJenn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for recognizing this.

[–]WolfeBane84 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything listed as "discrimination" is what you'd want to see. and even the never wed one makes sense. "never wed" means they never gave up trying to look good because they never hooked some guy. no children means no pregnancy stretch marks.

[–]Domruck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no children means no bigger boobs.... the never wed argument you present is nonsense: plenty of women stay attractive during their marriage

[–]skysinsane -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always find it weird whe people compare women wearing burkas with restricted access to knowledge and lack of freedom

[–]Domruck -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

politicians... dont ask

[–]furchfur[S] 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I have no idea how this is related to men's rights other than showing how completely "barking" some feminists are.

[–]Past-Difficulty6785 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess it goes to show something that MRAs talk about a lot which is that we often want to know why we've let these people be the arbiters of sex relations considering how obviously crazy and nasty they are.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've always said beauty pageants are the ultimate in female objectification...yet women are the only participants and the only audience for them.

So the single most offensive and misogynistic thing I can think of, is done by women for the entertainment of women.

[–]Past-Difficulty6785 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But that's basically the point. Good luck with that. That being said, is anybody surprised?

[–]PeonSupreme 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This, from the country that gave us “Cuties.”

[–]Admiralthrawnbar 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I looked up one scene on YouTube when that whole catastrophe came out and I felt like it put me on a list

[–]alclarkey -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

From what I understand, there were actual underage naked breasts in that movie. Which is one of the many reasons I have avoided watching it, even to give it an honest try.

[–]Admiralthrawnbar 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They didn't go quite that far AFAIK, but they definitely came close

[–]Considered_Dissent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That content was likely (ie Im joking but wouldnt be shocked if satire became truth) saved for the "VIP" cut that they sell for a couple grand.

[–]damster05 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a scene where a girl (none of the main characters) exposes her breast in a social media video that is watched on a phone. Many claim she was underage, I am quite certain she was not.

[–]miroku000 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the actress was 19.

[–]alclarkey 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, just looked it up and yeah, you're right. The movie is now slightly less exploitative of minor girls.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Never heard of the movie till now, but are they underage in France?

[–]alclarkey 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well according to another poster, the bare breasts belonged to a 19 year old.

[–]tenchineuro 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she's not underage to have sex or make a porn movie here.

But still young enough to raise fear of being called a pedo, amazing.

[–]ratione_materiae 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What’s next, suing a marathon for selecting a winner based on running speed?

[–]mikesteane 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists are going to be starting their own competition, Ms France. The winner will be selected on the basis of aggression, shrillness, obesity and general obnoxiousness. Instead of a crown she will receive a cat. And in her spare time she will bring about world war.

[–]DirtyPartyMan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought for sure there’d be a category for long, dyed armpit hair

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women tend to only care about the objectification of women when they can't personally exploit it.

[–]parahacker 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do they actually choose based on appearance though? I thought it was mostly politics and brown-nosing. I haven't seen a winner of these things yet that were actually the ones I'd pick.

[–]miroku000 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If models can't be hired based on their appearance France might ad well shut down their fashion industry...

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

  • Three failed Miss France hopefuls and a feminist group are jointly suing the pageant for selecting beauty queen contestants based on their appearance.

Wait, am I mistaken that Miss France is a beauty contest?

Also, if it's anything like Miss USA, beauty is only part of the selection criteria.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

beauty is only part of the selection criteria.

it's literally the #1 criteria.

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Given a winner many years back, I'm not so sure.

[–]j0k3ricu 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the French labour law considers recieving monetary compensation under a contract as gainfully employed, then the feminist might win.

FYI: that's why Hooters are not in France, because employer can't hire or fire using beauty standards.

But, the pageant is going to continue without paying the models. Which is only going to hurt women(models).

They can't eat properly to maintain figure, now they might not even get paid for suffering it 🤦.

[–]DeadlyDesai 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If stamina increasing drugs aren't allowed in Sports championships, why is makeup allowed in beauty contests?

[–]benamiark 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to clown world

[–]ThePiachu 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/NotTheOnion

[–]moiststoma 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone knows that you pick the winner based on whether or not she has Hobbit feet.

[–]manifest-breastiny 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/NotTheOnion

[–]g1455ofwater 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is some truth to that. They are discriminating based on appearance, not to mention that it's another instance of women basically being worshiped for being born a beautiful woman.

[–]lasciate 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Using 'discrimination' as a scare word only works when every single group isn't embracing and justifying it for their own benefit. We already acknowledge that discrimination is allowable (preferable, for some groups/people) when situations call for it. Retreating to absurdity when addressing specific cases in order to fight discrimination in general does not work. Your opponent will gladly take your principled concessions and then abandon the pretense of strict egalitarianism immediately once they've gotten what they want. Feminists are experts at this kind of systematic hypocrisy.

[–]gixxer 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahahahahahahaha.... yeah. The logical conclusion of feminism and woke culture.

[–]Morrighan1129 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I... But...

Huh?

Seriously, we've hit Poe's Law territory and started mining that shit.

[–]TheKobraSnake 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/nottheonion

[–]DubsPackage 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Joined beauty contest.

Sued bueaty contest for selecting based on appearance.

[–]V3N0M3 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excuse me! But what does this have to do with men’s rights?

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

are jointly suing the pageant for selecting beauty queen contestants based on their appearance.

Clearly they didn't win the intelligence contest either.

[–]AsylumKeeper 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stupidity and entitlement know no bounds.

[–]Rare-Rest9949 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s the literal point of these things right?!? Or I need to take my stupid pills?

[–]C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is where "participation awards" lead. People want a trophy even if they are not the winners.

[–]hehimCA 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Is this from L’Onion?

[–]southerncraftgurl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I..I am literally at a loss for words.

[–]hifi3xx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this on here and not r/facepalm

[–]Massdrive 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THe title was enough to make me think it had to be satire, then i saw the url.... Christ these idiots are stupid

[–]bL_Mischief 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Evidence they aren't beautiful on the inside, either.

Permanently ban them from future pageants.

[–]Vanriel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... Uhh what?

[–]adolf_hipstet 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BEAUTY queen contestants, hmm I wonder what they're being judged on?

[–]boringcarpets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This Week in Stupid

[–]Dwaynedibley24601 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cross post to r/Nottheonion

[–]Azamat-Aerofact 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't...isn't that what beauty pageants are about???

[–]Individual-March8163 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How is this related to men's rights?

[–]furchfur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We have been through that.

Basically if it is not judged on "female beauty" men can enter. So I think we are all hoping to sign up next year.

[–]DirtyPartyMan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No trophies for nice personality?

The Clue is in the name. Perhaps they should change it to “External Beauty Pageant”.

[–]sikwidit05 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really thought this was the bee at first.

[–]RottingVillain666 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Beauty contest but they based on the appereance to judge? Obscene! We are all beaitul and body positive! ( just to make sure i’m sacrastic )

[–]blueketchupp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/nottheonion

[–]nikogetsit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ok this has nothing to do with r/mensrights

[–]furchfur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We have been through that.

Basically if it is not judged on "female beauty" men can enter. So I think we are all hoping to sign up next year.

[–]nikogetsit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Count me in. Ladies and gentlemen feast your eyes on this magnificent dad bod

[–]Keopsfuj -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Beauty contests for women need to be banned. Beauty contests for men are ok though.

[–]ManofGod1000 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What? I look at that picture and I see looks and all of them showing off their backsides. Ok, I am not complaining about the picture but, next thing you know, you will tell me water is wet, right? :D

[–]WaterIsWetBot 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.

[–]ManofGod1000 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL! Anyways, I bet even the failed ones are not all that unattractive but, they clearly do not know how to lose with grace.

[–]j0k3ricu -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you mine karma with this Bot?

[–]Svenskbtch -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This must be satire. Sort of like the article in the Oberlin student news paper about a woman feeling traumatised that cis-male workers entered her women only dorm to fix her heating and how the administration ignored her ordeal.

That or the QAnon of feminism. Either way, best to ignore it... or laugh

[–]Tidoooo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn’t beauty pageants supposed to be based on outward beauty lol

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