When a skewed sex ratio isn't enough: where are all the good Chinese men?

loneliness-inc · 2022-02-01T17:41:21+00:00

“I think I know why the marriage rate and the birth rate keep falling, if they don’t respect women or treat women as human beings, then the extinction of mankind is not far!”

This is demonstrably false.

Just ask yourself, how did people marry young and have lots and lots of children since the dawn of humanity?

What changed now? Why is there a shrinking population in every western country on earth???

Is it because people of the past ~~pondered to~~ respected wymynz like this person suggests? Is that why they had such high marriage rates with large families?

Did we suddenly stop ~~pandering to~~ respecting wymynz in recent decades, causing our societies to slowly die out through attrition?

Let's dig a bit deeper into this shit filled rectum: why is it that wymynz are having fewer babies in recent decades?

Why is it that wymynz are getting married later and later?

Because men aren't ~~pandering~~ respecting them enough?

Obviously, that must be the answer, right? After all...

Responsibility is a tool of the patriarchy!!!

If someone is responsible, it must be men! Obviously 🤣🤣🤣

CentralAdmin · 2022-02-01T04:07:02+00:00

Warning! Long rant about my time in China up ahead.

China is going to have some issues in the coming years. Their aging population is going to retire and they won't have enough kids to replace the workforce nor to pay enough taxes to afford state pension.

This means that cheap labour is going to become more costly and they risk the middle income trap of becoming semi developed. Their other issue is that of water. They have lost something like 14 000 rivers since becoming more industrial. The north is very dry and they are pumping water in from the south. This is why they have a dispute with India. They want the glacial water in the Himalayas.

The men not marrying is more a symptom of modernising. Chinese women in cities want a man with a house, a car and money. A small apartment in Shanghai costs like 300k to 400k USD. A bigger one is closer to 700k. Considering the average Chinese worker is earning less than 30k USD a year it is really difficult to meet Chinese women's standards.

Often these men get into debt and their families have to gift them the money to afford to marry. Just so the wife can pop out a kid at 25 and sit on her ass for as long as she wants. During pregnancy she is a delicate flower that cannot or should not move so they go on maternity leave then quit when it runs out. After giving birth, they want a nanny (ayi/aunty) to take care of the kid while they sit on their phones and shop online. Alternatively, mom moves in and helps out but then she is the boss.

As for hubby? He becomes the family bitch. He is the one that cooks and cleans. Women in the city don't do chores. That's what husbands are for. Husbands are submissive yes men who are nothing more than walking wallets to fund their wives' desires.

On the flip side, many couples are not really in love and they have an unwritten agreement that he can go fuck around on the side. She gets the kid, the money and lifestyle she wants, he can get a girlfriend. Thing is, the girlfriend will also want money. So he has to earn a lot to afford a family and even sex.

The kids are not in the worst position if the family is wealthy. But then they are spoiled. You will see a fat 12 year old sitting on the train and being fed by grandma. He won't lift a finger. Other kids know they will work for dad in his factory so they don't bother working hard in school. Kindergarteners are wearing namebrand clothing and have 20 page resumés about how wonderful they are, all as status symbols for their parents.

The girls are not even expected to become successful. They are expected to be beautiful and marry a wealthy man. The few who are hard working and who care enough about contributing equally generally have spent some time overseas in a Western country like New Zealand or Australia. The others want to learn English to marry a white American who will give them light skinned babies and take them to prosperity and a better life elsewhere. They often get pumped and dumped.

Those leftover women have no problem being unemployed, lazy and materialistic, letting a man do all the heavy lifting. But dare the government suggest they marry someone who hasn't got a job and it's an insult to their perceived value. If they were such hot shit to begin with, they would have been married at 25.

Impressive-Cricket-8 · 2022-02-01T03:05:16+00:00

This one will be interesting. On the one side, we have a government well known for disregarding pretty much every human right and treating people as mere tools. On the other side, we have a female population showing signs of being tainted by western feminism - also known for treating part of the population as tools.

[...] older young female blah-blah-blah [...]

Is this what "rapidly approaching the wall" sounds in chinese?

Mundane_Worldliness7 · 2022-02-01T03:10:51+00:00

Female nature is universal, sometimes I feel for guys who deny this obvious fact. The wealthier a country becomes, the more obvious it becomes.

waveformcollapse · 2022-02-01T03:03:51+00:00

Yea, the US is actually better than China in this regard. Even with our dumpster fire dating scene, our real marriage rate is slightly higher than China's.

It turns out when you do a 1-child policy, it ruins your country for the next 100 years.

KangarooCrapper · 2022-02-01T02:51:22+00:00

Why should a 26-year-old female cadre be told that she is ‘old’ and has to have a baby with unemployed rubbish?”...Seems to be all the rage in this country (US)..just throw in a few felonies and Chad spawn add water and voila..

SpacemanLost · 2022-02-01T03:22:43+00:00

One thing we tend to forget is that in China, Money - having it and acquiring it by any means and ethics possible, is held in crazy high regard - much more so than here in the west, and that's saying something.

You've got the normal urge to marry up, but on top of it is a set of HUGE social pressures peculiar to Chinese society coming from friends, family, strangers, the media, and so on.

So nope, government officials aren't going to solve any "problem" this way, but they can at least claim to their superiors that they are diligently following the orders that came down from central planning.

Bing_Bang_Bam · 2022-02-01T06:19:30+00:00

The true hidden enemy that actually makes all of mankind brothers, are the women...

PlainTundra · 2022-02-01T07:01:24+00:00

Lack of economically attractive men
Wage gap

Pick one.

KingXDestroyer · 2022-02-01T08:15:35+00:00

The irony is that men in China statistically outnumber women by many millions of people, due to the one-child policy. So if a man can't get married, he has less blame as his chances of marriage are artificially lower than they should be. But if a woman can't get married, that's completely on her, as she has so many options to choose from.

player89283517 · 2022-02-01T03:54:19+00:00

I don’t get why they’re telling women to marry unemployed men when there’s plenty of good employed men in China

AndyBrown65 · 2022-02-01T04:06:46+00:00

Hypergermy at its finest

One-Move · 2022-02-01T02:59:53+00:00

The chinese girls are all in the cities and the dudes all in the country, not going to work, i (52 in the US) can more easily pull a 30 year old chinese girl than chinese dude

panzer22222 · 2022-02-01T05:27:54+00:00

Honestly I actually support chinese women doing this, as much as the west can suck its vastly better than anything coming out of china. Ideally China slowly disappears into the night, an aging regional power that doesnt have the man power to crew its fleet.

poloppoyop · 2022-02-01T09:38:49+00:00

Why should a 26-year-old female cadre be told that she is ‘old’ and has to have a baby with unemployed rubbish?

Biology my dear.

First: you're not gonna be able to have child for decades. And if you want more than one it will take time.

Second: you're gonna live long. And the last part of your life will make you dependent on people in better health. So if there are not enough people to take care of you, you'll die in your own shit.

InevitableOwl1 · 2022-02-01T13:48:25+00:00

It’s exactly like the complaints recently about men at college in the US with “golden penis syndrome”

60% women want only the top 10% of the 40% men. So 60% of the female student population want 4%. 15:1. Overly simplistic but even if you say that is too harsh or the bottom 10% don’t try that you still are looking at 6-8 girls chasing each guy

This is just the same thing playing out on a national level. With very significant demographic and economic ramifications

SeriousMannequin · 2022-02-01T16:46:51+00:00

In the end.

It’s always you are not tall enough.

It’s always not enough money.

It’s always because you don’t have an import car.

The requirement of car and house is very real, and it’s called 【三环七座】. The phenomenon where the man must be capable of securing a housing unit within the third highway loop of the city and a car that seats seven. Get this, even upon obtaining such assets, you are still placed in a competition with many other men.

Of course the closer to the city center, the better your chances of success.

The seven seater seats the couple, three children, and the in-laws.

Comedically it is the woman who traditionally leaves her family and marries into the husband’s, now it’s like the other way around.

2022-02-01T02:49:02+00:00

Even in a market where women have a numbers advantage (53% of China is men) they demand the top 10% or they aren't happy.

Fuck em. Let their hypergamy end their happiness.

Aldabruzzo · 2022-02-01T18:22:21+00:00

And the moral of this story is:

1) Human nature is the same wherever you go. This is some evidence against the idea that the state of the sexual and relationship marketplaces is a direct result of Western classical liberal philosophy and democracy.

2) Women naturally gravitate to feminism. Women naturally gravitate toward ruling the roosts wherever they are, and dominating and ruling over men when men allow it. Thus revealing the Curse of Eve. Men naturally gravitate toward supplication and trying to please their women, lest their women refuse to fuck them. Such is the Curse of Adam (hearkening unto the voices of their wives).

3) When people fuck it up, count on government to intervene and fuck it up even worse.

CarpAndTunnel · 2022-02-01T04:18:03+00:00

Those poor poor men

jayk00 · 2022-02-01T15:05:57+00:00

You know everybody fights for gender equality. Everybody wants similar payslips, similar rights and all and tbh its fair. Rich men can/may marry poor women but vice versa is something I've nearly never seen. So here laws of equality don't apply.

FaeVandal · 2022-02-01T14:15:53+00:00

Why would china's skewed sex ratio do anything to improve this kid of thing? More men than woman just means that they can all chase the same 5% instead of the same 10%.

jmpires · 2022-02-01T10:02:42+00:00

Where are the fines for being “unemployed rubbish” and not popping 3 kids before 26? Where’s the Shad-Phuckboi-San Boot Camp and mandatory drone delivered weekly IVFs to the Xmas Cake broads?

C’mon I’m sure the CCP can do better than this.

darrickeng · 2022-02-01T10:20:21+00:00

I imagine China will start sending people to reeducation lessons before taxing people for not having children after reaching certain age.

And if that doesn't work I won't be surprised if China does something drastic to boost up their population. And no that doesn't include letting in migrants.

Aldabruzzo · 2022-02-01T19:26:31+00:00

It's kind of funny...

China's population is 1,412,000,000. OK, that's 1.4 BILLION (with a "b") people. Of that population, 51.3% are male. That's roughly 760 million males. Let's say 400 million men are of marriageable age. Let's say half of those men, 200 million, are available for marriage because they're unmarried, employed, and interested in marriage.

Girls, if you can't find ONE good man among 200 million men, you got a problem. 200 million men is about 60% of the entire population of the entire US. If you can't find one good man among a pool of 200 million, maybe you're the problem.

For perspective: The US is about 340 million people. of that, 173 million males, say 125 million men 18 and over, and call it half that (around 60 million men) who would be marriage eligible.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2022-02-01T06:12:31+00:00

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Revenge_best_served · 2022-02-02T08:02:53+00:00

Time to go pump and dump some leftover women in China 😆

silly_birb_Banned · 2022-02-01T07:54:30+00:00

That statement is the same as saying leftover women have lost and should deal with it.

HasAStory4Everything · 2022-02-01T03:54:24+00:00

I stroked at my mustache in a subconscious way.

I chomped my jaw too and I couldn't help it.

It was dislocated I guess.

rit255 · 2022-02-01T14:36:17+00:00

Guess Japan and China have something in common then in terms of lack of marriages these days

human-potato_hybrid · 2022-02-01T14:24:21+00:00

anyone have an alternate link?

FormerBTfan · 2022-02-01T14:33:35+00:00

Don't know if I am allowed to post a link here from screw u tube so if this is not allowed mods please remove it. Anyway this fellow is originally from South Africa But lived and worked in china for a decade or so. Has some informative vids on China and how things are with culture gov and so on. Pretty interesting stuff and I have learned a fair bit watching some of these from when I have time. OP proves out what this guy has posted and vice versa.

https://youtube.com/c/serpentza

2022-02-01T16:16:36+00:00

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Gaiinahat · 2022-02-05T03:46:53+00:00

"Vocational and entrepreneurship training? Business loans? Priority public service job placement? What do I have to do?"

"Marry...her."

"Yeah...I think...I'm gonna pass....ummm...yeah."

BigAggravating1299 · 2022-02-01T03:04:47+00:00

Chinese chics are hot

Title	When a skewed sex ratio isn't enough: where are all the good Chinese men?
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Date	February 1, 2022 2:41 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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Responsibility is a tool of the patriarchy!!!