The ideal red pill man and the ideal "blue pill" (or any other dating strategy other than red pill) man are essentially the same

BigZaddyZ3 · 2022-11-25T18:31:54+00:00

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alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-11-25T18:28:15+00:00

Unless you're saying that the man that women want is both The Red Pill Man and the blue pill man combined into one essentially the purple Pill Man, you didn't really prove that they're the same because they couldn't be any more different. The Red Pill Man and the blue pill men are polar opposites and they reject each other's thinking philosophy ideology and mentality.

amanita0creata · 2022-11-25T18:55:15+00:00

Erm, TwoX is categorically not dedicated to dating!

KayRay1994 · 2022-11-25T18:29:59+00:00

here’s the thing with the red pill - it initially sucks you in with reasonable stuff (that you mentioned above), but like any cult/grift - that’s the trap they use to lure you in before really bribing the problematic shit

carlenvirgo · 2022-11-25T22:16:29+00:00

Not all women want the same type of man. Some women want the badass and some don’t. Some women want to be in control, others don’t. Some women want to be independent and others want to be supported. Some women have trauma bonding and others don’t. Different aged women have different wants and needs. Different cultured women have different wants and needs.

So, can you specify what age range, culture and socioeconomic group your referencing here when you say all women?

toasterchild · 2022-11-25T18:28:00+00:00

Of course its fine when you leave out all the bits that people find offensive. Most people around here agree with you that the red pill advice isn't ALL bad.

UninterestingFork · 2022-11-25T18:32:56+00:00

you are forgetting the idea of SUBMISSION

RP and RPwomen think women have to be submissive and surrender to "the captain of the ship". I don't see blue pillers or feminists doing this

Philip8000 · 2022-11-25T21:41:59+00:00

I don't think RP is wrong in the sense that looks matter, confidence matters, social skills matter, and yes, even financial success matters.

Mine is the attitude of: "Women ride the cock carousel, then settle down with a pathetic beta simp while still fucking the alpha on the side." That your worth as a man depends on how much sex you have. Watch porn, you're a pathetic simp. Subscribe to OnlyFans, you're a pathetic simp. Don't have a six-pack, you're a loser. And I could go on.

2022-11-25T23:05:42+00:00

There is a chasm between the “ideal” terp, and what terps are actually like.

The ideal is a self-actualised dude with strong boundaries and a rich life.

The reality is a sulky man-baby with an all-pervading sense of entitlement whining about teh woms.

BigZaddyZ3 · 2022-11-25T18:12:50+00:00

It’s because the red pill is based on science and is ultimately the truth about what women in general are attracted to. So it seeps into reality one way or another. The difference is that the bluepillers don’t have a strong grasp on why this archetype is attractive in the first place. Instead preferring to delude themselves that “it’s all just some magical mystery. There’s no rhyme or reason for the things we’re attracted to”. While the redpill looks deeper into how it all actually works.

This is why if you’ve followed these types of spaces long enough, you’ll have noticed that bluepillers have to constantly concede ground to Redpill ideas. But it rarely happens the other way around.

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-11-25T20:44:02+00:00

two x chromosomes, female dating strategies, and other women dominated subreddits want:

A man who prioritises them. TRP preaches to bring women, who want to be a part of his life. It's why TRP uses The Captain and The First Mate Analogy. Presumably a lot of women's dating advice, leans towards a 'two captain' approach. That difference is small, but pivotal.

Godspeed and good luck!

Fun_Push7168 · 2022-11-25T19:19:19+00:00

Lol sorry but FDS wants worshippers. Immediate steak dinner date, waiting months for sex, men that never dain to disagree with them, always available, always them first etc.

The positive is that they literally train themselves to want men that typically unsuccessful with women. Incels and die hard BP should really love them tbh.

DeepFriedhentaiMemes · 2022-11-25T19:17:08+00:00

Most American guys have it drilled into them from the beginning that they should be nice and see women as more than just objects, (which is hard we are horny as fuck)

The red pill has guys seeing girls acting as just objects and realizing that they've been duped or missed out or maybe they're stuck married to a hoe

The worst is looking at a girl who you thought was great and loyal and perhaps want to marry, only to find out she's just another hoe who's a good actress...

There's new angry dudes joining all the time and it takes a while for their anger to fade

waffleznstuff30 · 2022-11-25T18:33:08+00:00

Yeah those are all good dating strategies but you are leaving out a crucial part of the red pill. Because anyone who wants to date man or woman is supposed to kinda follow that. Women we should be hygienic and presentable, we need to not be clingy, and be employed and have things going for us.

Your missing the whole misogynistic part of red pill. The pseudoscientific studies on "female" nature and hypergamy and the wall AF/BB that comes from them. It's like saying misandry is about female empowerment and sticking up for yourself when it comes to men but leaving out the whole man hating thing. Yes there are benefits to either cause. Misandry can teach women to not take terrible treatment from men stick it to the assholes. But yet also treat good men poorly. Misogyny is the same way you treat good women poorly it pushes them away or to misandry and potentially pushing good partners and a happy relationship away.

I find the issue with a lot of "dating" strategies is sure you can land someone and have dates and what have you. But it doesn't teach about maintenance and how to maintain an intimate connection and that's where red pill men have it all wrong. Because it's about appreciation and empathy towards your partner stoicism out the window you are now intimate with this person. And that's where blue pill men have red pill men beat.

2022-11-25T18:43:16+00:00

Its more about personality after that point. blue pillers are beta, simpy, weak, blubbery, pushovers.

Redpillers tend to be more agressive, confident, strong, take-charge, call out bs, ect.

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Kobe_curry24 · 2022-11-26T08:17:42+00:00

Yea I think Op hit this right on the head he could of simplified it bit more but solid , I would say also it’s stages as well once you get to the relationship stage with women which is PHD level that’s when more deeper tactics are needed Redpill game and blue pill game are both just tactical game for really two Easy stages of women ,1 a women in heat ,2 a women who’s dying for a relationship after the heat , so you can liv in the player stage for long time once you get experience , but once you meet a women with experience who actually knows men who actually is cool as a whistle or knows how to make a man feel good and is sexy and is submissive this is deep game that most men don’t get and will get played quickly with -dark triad of women so you really haven’t had true experience untill you have true failure with a very experience women then the next step occurs

AssistTemporary8422 · 2022-11-26T15:37:05+00:00

There is one big difference that the ideal redpill man treats women like they are disposable. The redpill pushes self-improvement a lot more to be the ideal attractive man, while the bluepill is more okay with you being yourself.

Many-Leader2788 · 2022-11-26T19:02:44+00:00

Unfortunately what I have seen is that both of these stereotypical men are influenced by toxic gender norms, aka.:

both have to be bold and dominant,

both have to not have fears or if they do they need to get rid of them,

both have to only display small number of emotions, the main which are: "rightful" anger, being content and lust.

*It's important to hold distinction between "blue-pill and feminist man

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