Are your responses to our posts based on the assumption that we are good people?

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-12-15T14:35:40+00:00

No trolling.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2022-12-15T08:23:18+00:00

Is your point essentially that redpill men are sociopaths? Cause this isn't the truth bomb you seem to think it is.

Your post is basically "why do you even bother telling us how shitty we are?" Uh... because you're making comments on a debate forum?

Do you expect things to be said and no one respond with any kind of push back?

Should I post this to r/lostredditors?

Divine_Chariot · 2022-12-15T08:52:44+00:00

I don't know any men in real life that I would say are bad people. Sure, I've known bad men, but they quickly get identified and frozen out. So I guess sometimes I forget there's people for whom being a good person isn't important.

I don't think you can persuade someone to have a value that they don't have. I think I get annoyed at the hypocrisy here, which says that women serving their interests is bad, but men serving their interests is based and cool.

But if someone wants to be a cunt that's their perogative. But it's good to know what the mindset is, so that IRL they can have their reputation destroyed. I myself very recently did this to a man like this, and I only feel a little bit bad. But if men are going to go around doing this shit then there has to be consequences since they obviously don't care about the women they might hurt.

FineDevelopment00 · 2022-12-15T08:23:18+00:00

So you're a sociopath? Ofc sociopaths dgaf about how their own actions lead to negative consequences, but don't dish it out and expect people to not have (and express) strong opinions about what shady-AF shyte you're actively choosing to pull.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2022-12-15T10:33:46+00:00

You do realize that when spider man let the robber go stating “ I missed the part where that’s my problem.“ it lead to the consequences of his uncles death right. 🤦‍♀️ Selfish decisions lead to selfish consequences.

As for your main question: yes, I believe most of you deep down are good people who are just too desperate for sex and angry your not getting it or enough of it. This desperation leads many men to attempt to use underhanded methods to get sex which ultimately will lead to consequences. Many women are just trying to warn men before they get in over their head and suffer said consequences but it seems some men have to learn the hard way.

northernlights190 · 2022-12-15T08:25:26+00:00

That’s a lot of armchair psychoanalysis, but no. People aren’t “lashing out,” this is just a sub set up so bored people can argue about these things and it can get snarky. Half the discussions here are just people telling each other why they think the other one’s views are bad or wrong or whatever.

People aren’t “chastising” you because they “have no control over the men in their life.” They’re just telling you what they think of your opinions, take it or leave it as you want. Nobody actually gives a shit whether you or any other random Reddit stranger change your ways.

nemma88 · 2022-12-15T09:49:51+00:00

Yes. Most people are good. While there is self preservation and self interest, we are also social creatures making group preservation and interest an important facet of who we are. We operate by social hierarchy which ties both together.

Individuals may not be, but I take the stance there's a lot of blowing hot air online many would not do irl, because the internet is an artificial environment that doesn't accurately reflect who people are.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-12-15T10:24:03+00:00

I assume that you have basic empathy and care about others, especially those you're in a relationship with and are meant to, you know, like. If you don't, there's probably something seriously wrong with you. The men in my life are great and I feel no need to control them, abd if there's anything I need to call them out on then I just tell them. My hope is that at least some men on here are normal enough to, on realising that what they're doing is hurting people, to want to stop hurting people instead of not care.

KikiYuyu · 2022-12-15T12:11:31+00:00

I'm here to express my opinion. Whether or not that affects you is just whatever.

I hate people who treat others like dirt, so if I see someone shamelessly talking about how they want to be assholes it pisses me off. It's not about control or trying to change you, it's just expressing an opinion. If you plan on publicly being a piece of shit, it's kind of weird you have the audacity to question why anyone would call you out. Of course you're going to be called out if you talk about how great it is to lie to people to get sex.

Also it's not "lashing out" to have your shitty behaviour accurately described back to you.

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-12-15T12:43:29+00:00

No. Definitely not.lol But when you put something on the internet, people will tell you what they think about it. That’s just how it is.

And typically, even rotten people really don’t like being called out on their shitty behavior. This is why usually, these guys will squirm and try to defend it and argue about why it’s not really that bad or is justified because “muh biology” or because women do this or women do that, etc., etc. There is a cognitive dissonance, because most people, even narcissists and those with really low empathy and no moral compass, need to see themselves as good people even if others don’t.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-12-15T13:02:16+00:00

AMALT

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-12-15T12:57:27+00:00

It honestly depends on the wording of the post,

Are they somebody that’s genuinely curious about looking at points from another’s point of view,

Or it is somebody baiting with too much time in their hands,

For you I’d say the latter

CimZim · 2022-12-15T13:17:55+00:00

Are your responses to our posts based on the assumption that we are good people?

No, I think that 10% of people are genuinely good, 10% of people are genuinely evil, and the other 80% are going to swing whichever way is most effective for them in the moment. I am genuinely good, and have met incredibly few...like less than 4...other people irl who I think would also be this way. Ergo, it's foolish to assume that the average redditor isn't part of the 80% who generally act in their own self-interest.

I have a lot of empathy for people and will give a stranger the benefit of the doubt. However, if after talking to a guy or gal here who openly states they act in X or Y unempathetic or self-interested way, then I don't expect them to be different.

When people show or tell you who they are, believe them.

Caetraaa · 2022-12-15T13:53:27+00:00

I'm 17 and this subreddit has basically convinced me to never date men.

1Here4Bach · 2022-12-15T12:20:57+00:00

I know males here aren’t good people that’s why I respond the way I do.

_demidevil_ · 2022-12-15T13:01:43+00:00

Oh look this Edgelord over here doesn’t care about feelings. Soooo cool omg!
We know a lot of you don’t give a fuck.

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CruelAngelGradThesis · 2022-12-15T12:29:11+00:00

I barely even assume that you're people. All interactions with random anonymous strangers online require a healthy dose of skepticism.

pearllovespink · 2022-12-15T13:01:01+00:00

It sounds like you’re trying to send a message that the red pill men are liars and not good people. Not everyone operates like that.

EulenWatcher · 2022-12-15T13:56:18+00:00

That’s a debate forum, people express their opinions and sometimes it’s just emotional reactions to other posts and comments. At some point it gets snarky as most people use it for entertainment and not for real debates. So far I’ve seen (and got targeted by) far more male tantrums about our immoral behavior or not caring enough about them than vice versa. I guess it happens mostly due to the fact that far more men here have some struggles with dating and a surplus of self-identified incels.

Personally after first few months I’ve lost most of my interest to debate TRP. You can’t really debate something heuristic or something that one uses as the main base for their self-identity, as in this case they take any criticism of their ideology as a personal attack. I still express my opinion about it in some posts, but I’m more interested in discussing overall dating dynamics and bringing up experience different to most men here.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-12-15T13:58:08+00:00

To be fair, a few of us PPD women are old enough to be the mothers of 18-30 year olds.

But no, I don’t assume you are good or bad people until you spew words from your fingertips praising the idea of lying to get sex or “spinning plates.” Then I figure that person is one I would want to keep away from and warn other women about.

ziriani · 2022-12-15T14:18:26+00:00

I’ve always said “You can’t appeal to the morality of someone that doesn’t have morals.” This is the prime example of that lol. To answer your question we do think about it in that way (it’s immoral and therefore shouldn’t happen), but because you don’t, neither you or the woman can make sense of the other’s behavior. That’s why she tried to pointlessly rant in her replies to you, and why you made this post. Really, what I’m trying to say is that we’re just built differently

Title	Are your responses to our posts based on the assumption that we are good people?
Author	Divine_Chariot
Upvotes	5
Comments	59
Date	December 15, 2022 8:08 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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