Saw this at the mall, thoughts?

dakru · 2013-12-23T04:18:30+00:00

Some people will be offended that dads aren't assumed to be welcome by default, but that's the reality of our society, and not the fault of this mall. They're doing what they can to go against it. I'm happy.

qoppaphi · 2013-12-23T03:45:55+00:00

It's kind of sad that they have to specify that, but at least they're not discriminating.

Todda468 · 2013-12-23T06:34:01+00:00

The sign recognizes that dads often feel excluded and that it makes it explicitly clear that they are in this case no excluded.

iggybdawg · 2013-12-23T08:46:30+00:00

I would have done this if I was a mall owner that had gotten complaints about men in the family lounge.

GrimB0LD · 2013-12-23T09:27:30+00:00

It's addressed to those entitled mothers who think parenting is the exclusive domain of women, and shoot eyedaggers at any man daring to enter their little fiefdom.

spyder173 · 2013-12-23T05:28:02+00:00

I am glad they did this, because when you see "Family locker" or anything like that, they assume men are not allowed. this clearly states they are.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2013-12-23T07:26:16+00:00

It would make me feel better about taking my kids to the family lounge.

lordslag · 2013-12-23T10:35:06+00:00

The mall is just making sure that the word "family" includes fathers, as it should. It's really sad we live in a society that is so bigoted against men that this actually has to be specified.

yourotherusername · 2013-12-23T13:10:17+00:00

Wasn't this posted here a week ago?

drplump · 2013-12-23T14:16:01+00:00

This is the expected blowback and it is a good thing. Over the past 20 years a lot of spaces have become women and children only. As a result locations have had to resort to specifically asking or acknowledging men are allowed. Pretty soon there will be advertising for diapers that targets fathers.

The recession was a pretty much wake up call to American society of the problems men face. It is only now 5 years later that we realize the reason for lagging recovery is because of men remaining unemployed. For many this realization triggers a desperate rush to reverse the last 20 years of change.

Before there was feminism and neutrality. Many people for the status quo figured they had no reason for activism. It is only recently people are realizing the mistake of allowing others with ulterior motives craft the rules and goals of their own society. It isn't so much the growth of "mens rights" it is the evaporation of the remaining on the fence members of both genders.

"What about the men/boys" has slowly become something non activist say unironically.

ThePigmanAgain · 2013-12-23T10:15:03+00:00

I'm inclined to see this as an acknowledgement that society often does not see dad as a real part of the family. It seems to be a way of saying "We aint buyin' that shit."

Bearmodule · 2013-12-23T12:46:07+00:00

Happy about it, though I wish it weren't necessary.

circuitology · 2013-12-23T18:04:37+00:00

A double edged sword if ever I saw one.

Welcoming fathers? Excellent

Making the assumption that fathers are unwelcome without the sign? Ehh....

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-12-23T19:01:58+00:00

Here's a thought exercise, let's assume the sign said "mothers welcome".

gremlina · 2013-12-23T15:03:34+00:00

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Capn_Crusty · 2013-12-23T15:10:10+00:00

...and what if you saw this?

Dann01 · 2013-12-23T10:18:24+00:00

I think it's merely trying to iterate that Dads are part of the family. I wouldn't read too much into it

stemgang · 2013-12-23T10:49:58+00:00

It depends how far gone society is in the marginalization of fathers.

Depending on perspective, it's either a step in the right or in the wrong direction.

Pickle_WeasIe · 2013-12-23T12:36:33+00:00

It might be trying to encourage the fathers who would rather just sit down and read instead of shopping maybe?

Namelessnessly · 2013-12-23T13:52:51+00:00

They are being inclusive of fathers, which is good. Although it is sad and disturbing that fathers must be specifically stated as welcome in a family room, that is just the unfortunate state of the western world these days. I would just be happy that fathers are being included as they should.

Falkner09 · 2013-12-23T18:51:36+00:00

the exact same sign is at Mid Rivers Mall in St. Peters, MO.

saint2e · 2013-12-23T21:22:47+00:00

I did a poll on my facebook. The only thing that makes sense is they want to make it clear that this isn't a "nursing station" aka breastfeeding station, and so Dads are free to use it without worry of walking in on breastfeeding women.

LockNuts · 2013-12-23T03:44:32+00:00

Valley Fair in San Jose over behind the food court?

The first time I walked in there with my kids a few years ago, I got a few odd looks, but ever since then, nothing. I guess people got used to it.

Zosimasie · 2013-12-23T06:08:22+00:00

It's a slap in the face to men. It's like, "we know dad's aren't included in 'family', but I guess they can be included in this lounge".

TRPACC · 2013-12-23T10:32:58+00:00

They know what women will spend more, if they have more time.

Title	Saw this at the mall, thoughts?
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Date	December 23, 2013 3:39 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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