“If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best”

iambabytin · 2020-08-01T12:16:37+00:00

I got kicked out of a feminist group for agreeing to this.

AgreeableGoldFish · 2020-08-01T13:34:54+00:00

I heard a comedian do a whole routine on this line, about how only a woman could get away with saying that, for example imagine a pilot saying if" you can't handle me at crashing into the ocean, you don't deserve me in the calm skies"

MrFreezeTheChef · 2020-08-01T11:48:43+00:00

This needs to be written in the sky

anonballs · 2020-08-01T13:34:49+00:00

Then they pat themselves on the back for being “executive minded” lmao. Most women think being a good leader means being an asshole, cause they get complimented for it when they do it and it’s easy.

2020-08-01T12:14:20+00:00

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Natenat04 · 2020-08-01T12:48:27+00:00

I’m a woman, and I second this!! The worst is women in management positions who think the only way to lead or get their employees to respect them is by fear or acting like a B****!

coyda · 2020-08-01T12:36:22+00:00

But but.... the patriarchy. /s

laskidude · 2020-08-01T12:49:49+00:00

Very true. Truly strong women don't need to complain about men being intimidated, because men actually respect them.

livedadevil · 2020-08-01T14:07:58+00:00

Yeah. The crusade against the word "bossy" is insane. There's a difference between being assertive and being a dick.

Men get called out on it plenty, it's not unique to women, yet call a woman out on it? Oh you're just insecure

2hotdogtoaster · 2020-08-01T12:36:19+00:00

Also being a blue haired land whale is not strength either.

PM_ME_450_WORDS · 2020-08-01T15:29:10+00:00

Tied to this, I hate how Hollywood is writing "strong" women. They seem to think "strong" means aggressive, moody and overall kind of bitchy. (Captain Marvel, that girl from Star Wars.)

I want to watch a female lead that is actually strong, actually emotionally deep and compelling. That would be good writing and a change for Hollywood.

Instead, I get another 1 dimensional character. Except, instead of getting a shallow hot character, I get a shallow angry one.

tideshark · 2020-08-01T14:35:29+00:00

The “If you can’t handle me at my worst...” line seen in any girl/woman’s profile is the equivalent of saying “I’m batshit crazy and take ABSOLUTELY no responsibility for my actions.”

migswrite · 2020-08-01T13:41:50+00:00

So much truth it hurts me

pWheff · 2020-08-01T14:38:34+00:00

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bigatjoon · 2020-08-01T14:37:54+00:00

Far too many PEOPLE believe being aggressive rude and generally unpleasant makes them strong. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

LeakyThoughts · 2020-08-01T13:14:31+00:00

A lot of girls who think this just come across as being a bitch

So when you meet them, all you think is "wow.. what a Fucking bitch"

Nobody ever thinks 'wow, what a strong woman'

Its like when a man is like this.. he's not being strong and independent.. he's just being an asshole

cajungator3 · 2020-08-01T14:47:47+00:00

"If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best"

Dangerous attitude to follow because then a guy could just say that after he beats a woman.

itDoobiedatway · 2020-08-01T15:37:40+00:00

“If you can’t handle me at palms are sweaty, you don’t deserve me at mom’s spaghetti”

Meowkissme · 2020-08-01T13:52:50+00:00

I got banned from the pink chromosome subreddit for calling out some girl for absolute trash talking her dad and calling him a dumbass and calling all other men who wanted to golf literal retards. I copied and pasted one of her comments about her dad but changed it to "she" and replied to her. Banned without minutes. Mods refused to believe I was directly quoting her, so I showed them proof and also reminded them of their number 1 rule (Respect: No hatred, bigotry, assholery, misogyny, misandry, transphobia, homophobia, racism or otherwise disrespectful commentary.) and how that's literally what the girls entire post was. Hatred and assholery towards her dad for not doing what SHE thought was correct. No mod ever got back to me.

So it's okay to go on there and rip men apart, but not women. And their rule is: No tactless posts generalizing gender. We are a welcoming community. Rights of all genders are supported here.

The fucking irony.

chilltx78 · 2020-08-01T12:57:00+00:00

Would i be violating any copywriter if I were to print this off and tape it to the front office wall at my job?

throne_deserter · 2020-08-01T16:09:20+00:00

This is why a lot of pickup / dark triad / be an asshole advice doesn’t work.

You just can’t act tough as nails boss, be rude, have an assholish-attitude because you believe that’s how men behave and that’s what you need to mimic in order to come out as a strong willed, free spirited, straight forward, empowered woman.

It will always come of as artificial, because you aren’t being your genuine self.

ikkleanthis · 2020-08-01T13:17:47+00:00

Whichever the gender, in my experience, strong and driven people are a joy to have around. I know a female manager who is a practical genius and charismatic as hell.

Shoesybox · 2020-08-01T13:17:19+00:00

I mean, this applies to men too. I just avoid people like this in general.

AFlyingNun · 2020-08-01T15:05:09+00:00

What kills me is every time there's a "strong female character" in media that gets praise, she's effectively a fucking sociopath and somehow this is good...?

It's like they strive for women to be all the perceived negative traits associated with men as if this means equality or something, but the result is people looking up to some very questionable characters.

Look at Abby in TLOU2 for example. Honestly seems like a horrible person, but omg she has a vagina and she's swole so obviously she's a feminist hero.

I also never quite understood why in Game of Thrones, Dany was praised as the feminist hero whilst a character like Sansa was loathed. Dany was blatantly full of herself and multiple people died because of her ego. (Season 8 did her dirty to be fair, but Season 8 did everyone dirty) She'd be burning some dudes alive and some people be like "YES QUEEN SLAAAAY" as if it's empowering that she didn't listen to her STINKY MALE ADVISORS and opted for genocide instead. She also really did very little on her own and a huge percentage of her conquests were done by her advisors with her just saying "good plan, do it."

Sansa seemed like she was on path to be Cersei 2.0 because she was influenced by all the brutal and/or scheming characters: Cersei, Littlefinger, the Hound, Ramsay. Both could be brutal but with Sansa there's this attitude of knowing where she came from and that she absolutely adapted to survive and succeeded in that environment. Not saying it made her a great person either, but at least in her story we got the why and how of how she became the way she was.

Or hell why not Arya? Again, Season 8 did her dirty and she turned into super OP ninja that may as well have been a self-insert by D&D, but before that she seemed more interesting since she showed both her capacity to fight and ultimately chose a life of family instead, as if realizing continuing on her path would make her a horrible person. (well, yknow, before S8 ran in and undid everything)

It seems like a serious problem to me because as the post points out, every time feminism gets to depict an ideal strong independent woman, she often winds up being a friggin' psychopath (but she has MUSCLES!) and everyone acts like "nah it's k she's got a vagina."

VoidTorcher · 2020-08-01T13:43:57+00:00

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Truan · 2020-08-01T12:53:23+00:00

"if you can't handle me at my words then you can't handle me at my best."

Fuck outta here with they bullshit.

capn_krunk · 2020-08-01T13:08:44+00:00

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juicyjaysanchez · 2020-08-01T13:49:55+00:00

slams hands on desk THANK YOU!

FixBayonetsLads · 2020-08-01T15:30:26+00:00

Bruh strong women make my pp hard.

SleepDeprivedUserUK · 2020-08-01T12:46:17+00:00

"No, it makes you a cunt."

donut_hole_eater · 2020-08-01T13:57:16+00:00

"This guy said mailman and I was like EXCUSE ME PLEASE AND THANK YOU?? IT'S MAIL CARRIER!! I'm so strong"

No... You're just an insufferable bitch.

SOF_ZOMBY · 2020-08-01T15:25:43+00:00

I dunno chief, if a woman looks like she can snap me in half I'm pretty Intimidated. Hell if a man looks like he could snap me in half I'm Intimidated. I don't wanna be snapped in half.

HorrorScopeZ · 2020-08-01T15:56:00+00:00

There are woman that are perfectly fine but still intimidate me to be honest. Some are very bent on success that I just wouldn't want to keep up with. But yeah the meme is a thing to, sure.

And I'm cool with "if you can't handle me at my worst, you can't have me at my best", that is a choice I'm willing to make and live with as well if the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Pingayaso · 2020-08-01T16:05:20+00:00

Strong women are the ones that don't let themselves get tricked by feminism and the victimhood culture, only a beta simp wouldn't love strong women, normal men love them.

bloopblapbleep · 2020-08-01T16:07:55+00:00

This is on twitter so i know he got flamed for this

tombling · 2020-08-01T16:22:39+00:00

Any woman who says “if you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best” should give you warning lights and you should run

2020-08-01T16:41:26+00:00

I like being single, don't need a woman to make me happy that's what my hobbies are for.

Besides women don't make you happy, the culture is built on basicly being her little bitch these days.

Can't have relationships problems if not involved with a relationship.

FaceDesk4Life · 2020-08-01T16:45:07+00:00

I had my own experience with this exact thing a few months ago. I thought it was a one-off batshit person, rather than a growing trend.

No, being an abrasive cunt does not mean you can change the word for that from “bitch” to “strong”.

We also have a word for that when it’s a man; we call them assholes, dickheads, fuckheads, etc... and we avoid them as much as we avoid bitches, unless we are desperate fools.

Arctic_gear · 2020-08-01T16:46:10+00:00

feminazis will get pissed off at you for posting this.

qqqqqqqqqqx10 · 2020-08-01T17:06:14+00:00

A strong woman is a woman who raised 9 children plus kept a drunk no good unemployed husband around to save his soul from the devil all while never asking for a single thing she didn’t earn herself.

devil_in_drag · 2020-08-01T17:06:58+00:00

Oh how this perfectly describes my ex-wife

MookieT · 2020-08-01T12:43:35+00:00

Pretty sure Zuby said this first. He's a good follow on Twitter

tharkyllinus · 2020-08-01T13:30:57+00:00

A bitchy woman can make you forget your fear of hell.

obnoxiouscomment · 2020-08-01T14:21:20+00:00

Guys, for the most part, act relatively respectful towards each other because there’s always the implied threat of violence. As a fellow guy, I know if I push another guy too far, he will beat the crap out of me, so I won’t do anything to antagonize someone unless I’m prepared for violence (which is never for me, so I don’t do it). Should men live in a world like that, where antagonizing words and behavior could result in physical violence against them from other men? Maybe, maybe not, that’s just how it is, that’s just the world we operate in. Certainly we can call the cops on the offender and they get in trouble, but why were we antagonizing them in the first place?

Some women (not all), on the other hand, operate with impunity because they know it’s socially taboo to bring violence on them AND they know any response from law enforcement will automatically blame the male for violence, no matter who instigated the event. These “Karens” know they can push as much as they want to and they’re virtually immune from any consequences except on the off-chance where men have recorded them in the act (as in a few cases where black guys recorded women trying to get them in trouble with the law). They were lucky, but alot of guys in that situation do not get that benefit.

I have a daughter and I want her to be a strong woman who defends herself and her rights, but not be antagonistic and disrespectful to others and use the law to hurt others. Strength is standing up for yourself, not pushing others down.

xSGAx · 2020-08-01T14:02:01+00:00

makes me think of this key and peele skit

2020-08-01T14:16:36+00:00

This is so true! I’m a woman and I’ve seen many girls and women do this then wonder why people think they’re bitchy and aggressive. If you watch girl power tv, you see exactly where they get it from and when you see the women they hang out with you can see who influenced them. Women are so quick to hype up nasty and bitchy behavior but as soon as it turns on them, they hate it. The woman is no longer this “Strong and independent” type, she’s a bitch to them.

I’ve seen women act violent, overly aggressive and snap on random guys for simply saying “You should smile more” or making a joke she didn’t like then sit there baffled and offended when guys don’t want to be around her.

seudonym_ · 2020-08-01T15:30:32+00:00

FINALLLYYYYY someone said it! Thank you! 🙏🙌

NMFlamez · 2020-08-01T13:24:15+00:00

"In light of better options" -- That's the truest part of this.

batfish55 · 2020-08-01T14:16:07+00:00

To be clear, jerking off is often a better option, considering the state of women these days.

STINKYnobCHEESE · 2020-08-01T12:30:26+00:00

Can I get the link to this tweet?

Baman2003 · 2020-08-01T16:24:15+00:00

Fuckin preach my guy

Remixer96 · 2020-08-01T16:26:15+00:00

Serious question: what is strong then?

I'll grant you being unpleasant isn't it, but what is it exactly?

drdjkdpm · 2020-08-01T16:36:04+00:00

Spot on 👍

2020-08-01T16:38:07+00:00

This applies to everyone

WeWillAllDie666 · 2020-08-01T16:38:52+00:00

thing is "strong women" is a bit of a hilarious term, its never actually used against genuinely capable powerful women (like thatcher or someone like that) but its always used by some emotionaly fragile ghetto bitch who thinks being sassy on the internet or behind a wall of "You cant hit me i am a girl" is "strong"

any one self declared as a "strong women" is merely just an insufferable opinionated rancid bitch who people dont want to associate with, politest way of decline is "oh you are just tooooo intimidating"

NewAgentSmith · 2020-08-01T16:43:30+00:00

I went on a date with a woman who must've subscribed to that way of thinking. Right off the bat she was just straight up hostile. I hung in there for about 30 minutes until I just got tired of her shit, threw money on the table for our drinks and walked out. Like I dunno wtf all that was about. She was amazingly nice on the phone but in person acted like I killed her family

2020-08-01T16:57:23+00:00

Absolute truth. You should cross post this to r/whitepeopletwitter.

In the words of those insufferable types, “SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK”

2020-08-01T17:01:23+00:00

This is not pussypassdenied material, this is some fucking r/MGTOW shit

emax4 · 2020-08-01T17:03:48+00:00

Sadly, a lot of men don't see those women at their best, only at their worst. Or their "best" isn't up to the standards of 95% of men.

Awesomeness--Prime · 2020-08-01T17:10:48+00:00

Well said

zgreat30 · 2020-08-01T17:12:31+00:00

I thought this was sarcasm you guys cant be serious with this shit

brain_flaps · 2020-08-01T17:19:06+00:00

Look nobody tried to invoke a pussy pass here but it is good to make a distinction if you are a strong woman, that's a good thing but if the only people compliment you are people from r/feminist and everywhere else people are calling you an asshole. Take like this if one person calls you an asshole the're the asshole, if two people call you an asshole maybe your the asshole.

ImPolish · 2020-08-01T17:21:45+00:00

People like this often need a reality check. They think being loud makes them superior. Fuck that.

mingyewu · 2020-08-01T17:25:37+00:00

True

WYFM2001 · 2020-08-01T17:28:47+00:00

Perfectly stated.

svayam--bhagavan · 2020-08-01T17:32:35+00:00

If any wimmin supports fake rape accusers, I know they're opportunists.

owndpepe · 2020-08-01T17:36:18+00:00

It's not just women. Many people regardless of sex think that "asshole = strong". Most of the time being compassionate, understanding, apologetic and forgiving is the real show of strength

johnchapel · 2020-08-01T17:39:26+00:00

ITT: People still using the word incel unironically.

ZimbaZumba · 2020-08-01T17:40:20+00:00

I seen women like this who are then horrified to see men they are attracted to going out with charming women who take pride in their appearance.

SuVitoIX · 2020-08-01T17:42:16+00:00

Thats what most of hooliwood films shows a strong women is now a days

markth_wi · 2020-08-01T17:51:34+00:00

I've heard that "handle me at my worst or you don't deserve my best" from both men and women. Whenever, ever hear that basically, it's seems proper to view that person as a selfish asshole, so emotionally crippled and self-absorbed so as to basically tell people as much.

It's just one of the many ways nature says "stay away", now it also seems right and true to suspect that with the help and support and patience of a loving partner, someone can work through that deep affliction of assholery and become a better person, but I'm fairly certain that special someone doesn't need to be me.

2020-08-01T17:55:28+00:00

Jesus you didn’t have to kill her!

notajoey · 2020-08-01T17:59:08+00:00

I totally agree. Lots of young women my age (from hs, college, etc) trumpet this mantra everywhere. They post this on their instagram stories, and text this to each other when the get blown off by one night stands. It's hilarious and exhausting to observe

WilliamWestAcres · 2020-08-01T18:00:31+00:00

THIS!!!

2020-08-01T18:03:38+00:00

Try as men to use that phrase... See how fast it's spun around on us. Just saying.

malemanjul1 · 2020-08-01T18:05:10+00:00

What makes women happy? nothing...

zUltimateRedditor · 2020-08-01T18:33:56+00:00

Beautifully and succinctly put.

Zako_04 · 2020-08-01T18:58:33+00:00

willsmithonice · 2020-08-01T21:24:35+00:00

What was it?

D_bAg_Tr0LL · 2020-08-01T23:31:16+00:00

Got deleted what did it say?

Tspilam · 2020-08-01T14:49:34+00:00

I agree to an extent. The problem is that a woman and a man could act in the exact same way and the woman will often be seen as being insufferable while the man wouldn't. At least to q larger extent.

Kiwi1338 · 2020-08-01T15:00:12+00:00

r/fuckyoukaren

Smiley2Fingers · 2020-08-01T15:59:11+00:00

Marcus speaks the truth. I love strong women. If you are rude or disrespectful to anyone I will call you on it. If it’s unjustified. You can be strong and lonely.

letsthinkaboutthis_ · 2020-08-01T13:31:06+00:00

Far too many men believe this same thing.

TheFlyingFlash · 2020-08-01T13:03:48+00:00

What the fuck happened to this sub?

It used to be about equal rights equal fights. Now it's all this pathetic incel shit.

Panacea4316 · 2020-08-01T14:07:50+00:00

When I was dating a few years back I saw this constantly on women’s dating profiles. To me it was basically a giant flag saying “I’m a bitch”.

There is nothing sexier to me than a strong independent woman. Someone who can match and understand my drive is an amazing quality to have in a partner because you can make eachother better. What I don’t want is a woman who makes the same money as me, but is a total bitch about it.

2020-08-01T14:16:26+00:00

There are plenty of men who need to read that too. Being a miserable bitch doesnt make you seem tough.

FPB270 · 2020-08-01T14:17:37+00:00

One thing social media is great at is normalizing poor mental health.

Man_Of_Frost · 2020-08-01T14:18:50+00:00

This. It's a shame that a lot of women think they have to be aggressive and badly mannered to be seen as strong.

2020-08-01T14:20:26+00:00

"You don't have a best, Laura"

JackdeAlltrades · 2020-08-01T14:27:35+00:00

There's a lot of guys who think this too.

AzureGoat21 · 2020-08-01T14:29:29+00:00

I think being a strong woman boils down to being able to stand up for yourself and do things you enjoy that may be outside the social norm of what's considered "feminine."

And doing it without being rude or expecting everyone around you to praise you for it. At least that's how I try to live anyway.

savageinthebox · 2020-08-01T14:32:42+00:00

“He just can’t handle a strong woman” translates to “he wouldn’t put up with my bullshit”

7PrawnStar7 · 2020-08-01T14:34:08+00:00

Amen

mr_toit · 2020-08-01T14:36:50+00:00

Personal experience, I find the aggressively feminist bitches and the sexually frustrated bitches who wished they got fucked more but didnt to be the same exact bitches

Kal716 · 2020-08-01T14:43:17+00:00

Yessssssssssssss!!!!

jm51 · 2020-08-01T14:46:56+00:00

Marilyn Monroe's best wasn't enough to stop her getting dumped for being a cunt.

Spyromaniac31 · 2020-08-01T14:48:04+00:00

Some men are intimidated my strong women, or ones in positions of power. But this is still true.

pikurodura · 2020-08-01T14:57:12+00:00

My coworkers must abide by this rule. She is always a dick no matter what

hideout78 · 2020-08-01T15:02:55+00:00

Spot on

Edit - my boss is a woman. She’s the opposite of what he describes. She’s great at what she does and I have the utmost respect for her.

The whole sexism thing is bullshit.

the_taco_baron · 2020-08-01T15:05:10+00:00

Those type of women are weak and overcompensating to cover their insecurities.

Also, I think it's hilarious they think that having a large portion of the population not be able to handle being around them is a good thing

mrducci · 2020-08-01T15:42:15+00:00

It's not a binary argument. Both things can be true. Some men are afraid of smart women, or women that have an opinion of any sort. I wouldn't categorize AOC or Ilhan Omar as "insufferable", but there are men that are absolutely terrified of those women, and anyone like them. And God forbid they're attractive too.

2020-08-01T15:51:52+00:00

Have you ever met a woman who described herself as "weak" woman? 95 percent of women (and men) consider themselves "strong". That is, assertive about the things they think are important. To be people who think that being strong means being loud, bossy, obnoxious, or strongly opinionated about everything, that's fine for you but don't be surprised when people don't want to hang out with you.

TR33C3 · 2020-08-01T17:33:18+00:00

Incels like you are the reason this subreddit took a nose dive.

Title	“If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best”
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