By 2023 you’d think it would be yet I know no shortage of guys who have the tact and grace of a rhino on a methamphetamine bender in a China shop who turn into wild animals on nights out shouting, swearing, wrestling each other plus being crass, politically incorrect, a bit racist and sexist, inarticulate, insensitive, getting aggressive with other men sometimes winding up in fights … lo and behold they do well with ladies, and not just braindead bimbos but relatively well educated apparently self respecting women who they will somehow end up dating. It’s almost like some of these ladies enjoy the challenge of taming the beast and trying to domesticate them.

They’re not all perfect physical specimens either some are average looking at best. But even if they are great looking, you’d think their behaviour would be a turnoff and cause for embarrassment

Leads me to wonder what traits are actually valued by the majority of women these days, that’s to say the way they walk not talk.

Do you think the attraction framework is shifting or just the social narratives? And what traits are the most attractive?

I’m not suggesting that women should prefer some stuttering knock kneed geek or obnoxious self appointed social justice arbiter but just regular guys with healthy level of masculinity whilst also being secure, empathetic and showing self restraint and tact… I’m sure many women do prefer that but why do so many seem to go for these insecure loudmouth, aggressive, crude brutes?

If raw confidence really is such a blinding aphrodisiac then maybe the human race is even more fucked than I thought

(Message to mods: I feel like this is a discussion more than CMV post because I want to open a conversation on which traits may be desirable and whether its changing over the years as society appears to become more politically correct)