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| 3 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?I have a hard time grasping anyone can have such little self respect that they would set such a low bar in a relationship. Even if they have kids and a house tying them together it seems ridiculous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Why are humans programmed like this? Seems to be a major evolutionary flaw that virtually ensures suboptimal offspring to put it bluntly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 11:25 AM |
| 3 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Yeah it’s fucked up. But I wonder as a well meaning non asshole the best way I could capitalise on this phenomenon and spare a woman some pain, Without sounding like a white knight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 09:03 AM |
| 3 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Yet often wind up with men who don’t even treat them with basic respect That’s the amusing part - the bar seems to be set so high then some obvious slimebag sneaks over it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:16 AM |
| 14 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Meanwhile she got the ick from a genuine decent man because he didn’t have Instagram or didn’t give her enough tingles on the date | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?This seems like an accurate description and explains why women seem to get so hung up on guys who seemingly offer nothing to her when she has endless options Which is why there are so many slimebags who put on the nice guy act just long enough to creep under women’s radar. Surely as societal stigma diminishes and women become more financially independent they become ruthless with cutting of these types of guys ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 08:09 AM |
| 6 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Do they really though? I would assume that 80% of men would meet those standards but I know tons of guys really struggling just to date including ones who are well above those standards I guess the pickiness of the guys and luck play a big role too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 06:52 AM |
| 3 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Then how is it that the average guy still winds up in a relationship and why don’t guys who do put in a lot more effort have tons of success ? Assuming they’re not ugly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 03:22 AM |
| 12 | Why do so many women insist that the bar is so low?Not that I wish to exploit them but where are all these women with zero self esteem? Every woman I've met has always been quite judgmental (which is a good thing because it means she has self respect). If I didn't carry my end of the conversation, treat them well, look good, smell good etc they made it clear and in some cases they left. I end up doing 60% of the talking on a date. If I never asked them a question we would sit there in silence for most of it. I try to select women who seem educat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 02:55 AM |
| 3 | I hear the statement "The bar for men is extremely low these days" a lot in the context of dating, sex, and relationships. Is the bar low for men's looks or personality/character/effort?Why do you speak as though you’re the authority? None of what you said is true in my experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Do You Know a Guy That is Top 5% on Dating App?I match with probably 50% of women I superlike or send a message to, but getting them on a date is extremely difficult these days. I’m focusing on in person approaches | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:46 AM |
| 0 | Do You Know a Guy That is Top 5% on Dating App?Why? I know ugly guys who’ve met their partners on the apps. Their partners aren’t classically beautiful women but they’re happy together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:44 AM |
| 3 | What is happening to men? I am concernedAs a man, I appreciate your concern but it’s really not that bad. Most people who are worth engaging with aren’t actively hostile toward men, those who are are just a minority of damaged people who are quite easy to avoid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags?I figure only broken / insecure women would be truly attracted to someone who acts like an asshole. A bit of cheek or sassiness is reasonable but if being a crass selfish abusive type of guy gets a woman going she's not someone you want. And I couldn't live with myself being an asshole because it's just not who I am. Even if it works I would feel like I'm selling out and disrespecting myself in a way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 04:29 AM |
| – | Have you noticed the extreme hypocrisy and double standards in dating these days?That still doesn’t justify being a cunt by exploiting insecurities or pressuring women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 02:52 AM |
| – | Have you noticed the extreme hypocrisy and double standards in dating these days?Can you elaborate on how you would be sexually aggressive on a date? I understand being more touchy and making more sexual innuendos then inviting back to your place but I’m not sure what you mean by aggressive. I’m always paranoid of coming across as pushy or slimy with women ever since I found out that a woman I was with didn’t really want to hook up but felt pressured to so the only time I’ve fucked on a first date is when they basically said they wanted it or put their hand down my pants whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 02:39 AM |
| – | Have you noticed the extreme hypocrisy and double standards in dating these days?Then why can’t they come out and say it. Also acting like a manly man gets boring. I mean what’s the typical mould… showing no emotion… always trying to appear in control … making all the decisions… making all the moves… seems lame. Surely society has moved past that point. I guess not | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 01:53 AM |
| – | Have you noticed the extreme hypocrisy and double standards in dating these days?Because most conversations with any real substance inevitably involve some level of vulnerability and I’m not interested in frivolous banter for hours on end. If she opens up emotionally and asks me a personal question what am I supposed to just turn it into an innuendo or something? That’s juvenile | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/24 01:50 AM |
| 4 | Are women actually entertaining hypersexual douchebags?If you’re just looking for sex why would his personality matter? Oh I thought feeling safe and respected was supposed to be quite important to most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 12:31 PM |
| – | There's no such thing as having standards set too highIt sure beats putrid religious moral absolutism, which I'm going to go ahead and presume you're advocating for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/24 05:48 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highThat’s presuming that someone isn’t ok with staying single for as long as it takes to date someone up to their standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 02:14 PM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highWell there’s no other reason to be so insistent on denying my statements. I only want to fuck 2-3% of women because that’s all I’m sufficiently aroused by. End of story. Enjoy your wider preferences / lower standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 02:11 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highWhy are you so offended by the idea of a guy who doesn’t want to sleep with most women? Not every guy is a walking dildo willing to fuck anyone who smiles at them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 01:47 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highI was being facetious but the fact is I’m just not aroused by most women. Am I supposed to pretend that’s not the case? I don’t know why but it’s always been this way since High school. Most guys were slobbering over half the girls in the class, I was only ever attracted to 2 or 3 girls in my grade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 01:06 AM |
| 2 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highGood point, I guess I just meant physical attraction standards in my eyes like I’m attracted to certain features generally and wont pursue anyone who doesn’t have them because I’m just not as attracted except on rare occasions. But I know for a lot of guys physical preferences are just that and not deal beakers | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 01:02 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highAs long as we don’t compromise personality to be with someone we find sexy, I made that mistake once because getting the full package is so rare and even if you don’t mind being single you can find yourself getting a bit desperate sometimes. But that’s great you managed to find one who ticks the boxes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highThat’s not exactly something to be proud of ( or ashamed by) Just don’t be leading women on believing you like them if you only want to hit and run | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 05:08 PM |
| 1 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highWhat’s absurd about 1 in 20? Are you really attracted to most people you see? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 05:05 PM |
| 4 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highWhy are you intent on fucking women you’re not very attracted to anyway? Just to boost your notches to stroke your ego? I’ve never understood why so many men go for quantity over quality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 04:24 PM |
| 0 | There's no such thing as having standards set too highI do sometimes but also there’s an effective remedy for a lot of ED: fucking women you’re attracted to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/24 04:18 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI’m just saying they’re not just objectively more attractive, only to certain women. Some are shorter, not in great shape, not very smart, not that funny, you can’t just say conclusively that they’re more attractive because it’s just not true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 03:00 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodTo certain women. It’s like saying a mile is a long distance to run. To someone unfit it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?So you’re deliberately exploiting women’s insecurities to gain their unhealthy devotion? I’d like to think that’s not your gameplan otherwise you’re a scumbag yourself It takes far more fortitude and strength in life to resist the temptation to trample others and perpetuate the suffering for self gain. You could argue that life is cruel and we have to do what we can to survive but that’s a horribly cynical view, and where would humanity be if everyone lived by that logic? Extinct, or a Hobbesian… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 11:58 AM |
| 0 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?In my cousins case she argued that he was really nice when he wants to be and thought he was a good person deep down. I guess this isn’t necessarily loyalty but more like ignorance and manipulation and maybe trauma but it happens incredibly often even with women who are actually attractive, smart, and not obviously damaged. But also genuine nice guys exist and they have a right to feel indignant when a woman opts to be with a scumbag. They might be overlooking some positive qualities he has, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 10:04 AM |
| 3 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?You must not have met a woman who stays with and defends the behaviour of a guy that abuses her in public and isn’t even particularly good looking, smart, funny, successful or accomplished in any way. My cousin was like that and so was my best female friend, luckily they eventually realised how much better they deserve. Men can fall for that as well from sexy gold diggers and homewreckers but it seems more common among women, even women who don’t seem to be damaged per se | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 09:18 AM |
| 0 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?Well shouldn't you reserve less judgement if they're behaving the way they've been bio programmed to , spreading their seed? I remember someone once said that men chase women into the chamber and women chase men into the chapel and I think there's some truth to it. But any half decent man won't actually cheat though they might fantasy about it. He will break things off if the impulse gets too strong. And the fact that most do stay with a woman through the years speaks even more to their characte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 05:18 AM |
| 6 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?Are you sure you weren’t just pre selecting for slutty damaged women in unsatisfying relationships? There are a lot of them even ones from good backgrounds who you would think should be really self - assured, but I still presume that most women are not so lacking in integrity and easily manipulated Also, I briefly tried being an obnoxious dick to women and it worked embarrassingly well with two women but otherwise it backfired, I think because it was obvious that it was just an act, whereas the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:23 AM |
| 0 | Are women generally speaking more loyal to their partner?A few times I’ve tried flirting with women who were dating guys I considered to be pricks just to let them know that they don’t need to settle for them and even as a 6’5 good looking guy they wouldn’t give me anything. Granted that this was during the day and never when alcohol was involved. But you’re probably right What’s the implication though? Should a man be constantly weary of his girl cheating? My MO is to treat a relationship like it’s eternally iron clad unless they give me a good reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/24 04:14 AM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI’ve actually read that shit years ago including models by mark Manson and the game by Neil Strauss (both tools the latter much more so) and watched in field footage from Todd valentine (another tool and a lot of his footage was faked) and it all felt so foreign - I remember trying some of it with women i was meeting and virtually none of it worked and I felt like a fucking phony. Maybe I didn’t give it enough of a chance to feel natural but I don’t think it ever would. Disqualifiers, shit tests… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:54 PM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodOld school term for pulling, tuning, finessing, rizzing up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:46 PM |
| 0 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodYeah I was still just curious how it happens exactly but I think I’ve figured it out and in doing so realised that’s not for me. I don’t have any moral qualms about promiscuity but some of these fuck junkies shouldn’t be enthused, they’re just egomaniacs or sex addicts who put their sexual conquests ahead of women’s comfort and I don’t know why so many people even some in this thread seem to support that sort of shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:37 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodSo after kissing how do you escalate it? That’s what I mean when I say it doesn’t just happen, at least for the guy we’ve got to make it happen ( unless she’s slobbering for you ) After kissing I’ll usually try to keep some physical contact with them maybe my arm around them or touching their thigh or something then suggest heading back to my place if I want to try to fuck them, but still I’ve lost quite a few women to last minute objections or sometimes the flame has just flickered out I guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:27 PM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodDamn you deserve to get laid on demand with all of that effort. I just can’t be fucked with all that. I don’t really value casual sex enough I guess. And I don’t enjoy clubs for the most part. Unless I like the DJ or I’m on ecstasy I’d much rather be hanging out with a friend playing guitar or doing anything else. I don’t like crowds of sweaty people shouting and bumping me and overpriced underpoured drinks and shit . I’m trying to find some venues I don’t mind because otherwise it’s hard for me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:21 PM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodYou mean I would be less picky with who I go for or I would be more bold and forward about having sex? I do have a mid to lower sex drive and I can easily live without it, if I’m not really into them I would rather stay out of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 01:55 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI’ve been on plenty of dates where she clearly likes me but she’s not sexually forward for one reason or another and I have to consciously make it happen - that’s a date let alone a work party where they both have something to lose. Maybe I’ve just never met a woman who was so attracted to me she couldn’t resist launching herself. That’s why I’m wondering what the fuck are there guys doing differently? The answers seem to be: choosing women who are really into them rather than ones they’re reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 01:52 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodYou realise those are the types of guys who will say and do anything to get laid even if that involves lying or pressuring. Why should you need to switch off your better judgement and higher thinking to have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 12:46 PM |
| -1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodSeems a bit blunt. Surely you want to explicitly mention going back to your place so she doesn’t feel mislead if for some reason she thought you were just going to another bar or something. I’m trying to think from a woman’s comfort perspective but you’re a woman I presume so I guess I underestimate how many women are ok with guys being blunt and bold like that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 12:42 PM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI try not to because they can interact w my adhd meds and I get whiskey dick so even if I have more confidence my dick doesn’t really work. I do have some anxiety but do most guys really just Waltz into situations with no such thoughts or concerns? I know a lot of guys go into reptile dick brain mode where they basically do and say anything to get laid but it shouldn’t need to be like that surely. I know that I need to be a bit more bold and forward than I naturally am for sex to ever happen but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 11:39 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI’ve never understood going for quantity over quality with sex considering all the risks. Unless they’re sex addicts or they’re desperate to tell the boys they pulled. It seems like something you would outgrow by the time you’re 20. One of the reasons I don’t is because I actually find sex to a bit disgusting with someone I’m not that attracted to. The sights and sounds and smells and shit just aren’t sexy when it’s with someone who I don’t find attractive. And I can barely even get an erection … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 10:24 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodI mean these seem like reasonable things to be wondering if you’re not just operating dick brain caveman mode I think I would need a lobotomy to stop thinking so maybe I should just accept that casual sex isn’t for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 09:04 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodDo you just straight up talk about sex with women you’ve just met? In what context, asking them about their sex preferences or talking about the sexual experiences you’ve had or making jokes about orgasms ? I’ve had that backfire completely when I misjudged how open they were. Some women like to look promiscuous but then get weird out when you actually bring up stuff like that. And I like having real conversations. Not necessarily about geopolitics in Palestine but maybe childhood memories or tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:35 AM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodBut also I shouldn’t need to be dry humping them at the bar or asking them point blank if they want to fuck. Surely it can be done a bit more tactfully by proposing to go back to your place? I feel like that would be a much more comfortable conversation for the lady as well especially if the answer is anything other than a yes. I mean when a girl declines your offer to fuck how does that go? Do you immediately say goodnight and move along or try to persuade them? I agree most guys who sleep with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:16 AM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodYeah not so much social anxiety but general anxiety about making the wrong choices or coming across the wrong way and things which does impact me socially but you probably wouldn’t know it if you met me. But so do a lot of guys who sleep with a lot of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:56 AM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodOn one hand it is that simple but on the other hand there’s way more to it than that. Is it too soon to ask? Should I spend more time building comfort? Do I want this borderline stranger staying in my place? I’ve got a friend who took a girl home and she stole his watch and some cash Is she drunker than I am? Could she sober up and flip out once we get there? Her friends seem protective, how should I reassure them that I’m not a scumbag? She says she promised her friend she would stay at her pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:51 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodWho do they think they’re fooling? Do they really believe their own narrative that they were so callow or drunk that they had no concept of what was going on until they were in bed? They shouldn’t feel guilty for having sex obviously but why lie to to yourself like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:32 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodYeah they definitely don’t think about it nearly as much as we do, but even when I’ve tried to be less intellectual and more instinctual I don’t exactly do any better with women. I guess I don’t approach loads of women though, I’m a lot more selective and I’m not as bold and direct so it tracks that I wouldn’t get laid as much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:26 AM |
| 6 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodBut what about the guys who aren’t physical specimens and don’t have incredible charisma who don’t seem to pester women for sex but seem to naturally wind up fucking women regularly? They’re the ones who are really mysteries to me And even for the chads I’ve had women change their attitude completely when I suggest leaving the party etc and heading to my place. The only time this hasn’t been the case was house parties when I was younger or overseas at hostel parties. Maybe it has more to do with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:19 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodBut the plot thickens when you consider that many of these guys are actually average in most conceivable ways. They don’t look like wax statues, they don’t have the wit of Oscar Wilde or some irresistible charm. That should be inspiring and prove that you don’t need to be Don Juan to get women, but it just confuses me. What are they doing differently? Being really direct? That doesn’t even work with most women Are they giving off pheromones or something? The closest thing to an answer I think is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:08 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodDo you communicate telepathically or something? Isn’t verbal consent a big thing these days? Say you’re hooking up with a guy, then next minute is he throwing you into an Uber without talking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:54 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodWhat do you mean make it your personality? Should everything I say be a sexual inyourendo? Should I avoid getting into conversation about anything serious even if they bring it up? Should I be constantly touching them? That shit just isn’t my style. I’m not a touchy person, I don’t really like public displays of affection, I like to have real conversations not just stupid flirty banter, and it wouldn’t feel natural to act the way you’re implying I should act. Unless I’ve misread what you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:46 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodWhat’s an example of just being honest when you’re trying to sleep with someone? What might you say exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:31 AM |
| 2 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodSo let’s say you do. And you’re hooking up. Do I just book an Uber without mentioning it or just be really bold and say we’re gonna keep this party going at my place? I’ve been in clubs booking up with women who were grinding on me and seemed to be hounding tor a pounding but as soon as I’ve tried to take it elsewhere they get cold feet and put up some objection about how they can’t leave their friends or they need to be up early the next day or something. Does that mean they just weren’t keen o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:23 AM |
| 1 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodBut one of you still has to sort out the logistics and book the Uber and she’s probably going to throw up a barrier like how she has work tomorrow so she doesn’t feel too easy, so there’s more to it than that. Unless I’ve just never been with a woman who has desperately wanted to fuck me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:12 AM |
| 3 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodWell we don’t just magically teleport to my bedroom and women never do the logistical part for me. Me: “I propose having the next drink at a more intimate cocktail bar that happens to look a lot like my apartment” Her realising she likes me but doesn’t feel that comfortable going home with a guy she met just an hour ago: Ah I’ve got to be up early tomorrow I can give you my number though” Me: No stress, I know that sounds like I have one thing in mind but I’m honestly just enjoying getting to kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:11 AM |
| 4 | I’ve never understood how sex ‘just happens’ so casually for some people in adulthoodIt seems like an incredibly advanced subset of social skills, but then some of the guys who sleep with a lot of women aren’t that socially skilled in other ways. Where do they learn it? Through trial and error? I’m pretty sure they’re not the ones watching YouTube tutorials and paying dating coaches but it’s not something your taught in school or by your dad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 03:18 AM |
| 2 | What makes someone boring in your eyes?Far too many people mistake being loud and melodramatic for having a compelling personality. I can’t look away when I witness a building fire but that doesn’t mean I want to be anywhere near it. This then reinforces the wrong behaviours as people realise that they don’t need to be deep, nuanced thinkers to reap social validation, assuming they’re even capable of such. You can often peoples eyes glaze over when you raise any point in casual conversation that the autopilot bimbo brain can’t comput… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 02:10 AM |
| 3 | What makes someone boring in your eyes?Yeah that’s my definition of boring. Far too many people seem to think that being loud and dramatic makes a person interesting - maybe if you’re incapable of thinking otherwise it’s just boring juvenile bullshit. Having a date with someone who has no knowledge of anything besides the narrow slice of current pop culture is like cutting off your arm with a spoon. All your references and jokes have nowhere to land and the conversation can never develop that deep. I know people say we shouldn’t be h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 08:10 PM |
| 1 | What makes someone boring in your eyes?Yeah although social anxiety and nerves can get in the way of this especially on say a first date where people often don’t open up. But I know some people well enough that never really have anything to say and yeah I’d say they’re boring, though I don’t think that intentionally being controversial necessarily makes someone interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 02:31 AM |
| – | Is it fair to assume that being a pushy asshole works enough of the time for some men to continue behaving that way?A lot are… not dumb necessarily but very irrational, but the same can be said about a lot of men. And they make dating more difficult for everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 06:03 AM |
| 6 | Is it fair to assume that being a pushy asshole works enough of the time for some men to continue behaving that way?But if you have any integrity you should feel like a scumbag for behaving that way deliberately even if it gets you laid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 02:49 PM |
| 1 | How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older?You would think so but honestly my most overall attractive friend who should be a catch has been cheated on twice once by a fiancé and is still struggling to find a partner, while my neighbour is an attractive doctor yet she’s married to a shorter pudgy little guy with a kid from a previous relationship a blue collar job that doesn’t pay that well and I’ve heard him about abuse at her. Explain that. Of course women are generally going to gravitate toward guys who are physically attractive, charm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 11:21 AM |
| 0 | How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older?I hardly see any good profiles these fuss though that’s the strangest part. Unless my ranking dropped for some reason but I’m not sure why it would | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:28 PM |
| 1 | How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older?I’m more an epicurean myself (look how well that’s serving me) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 12:40 PM |
| 4 | How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older?Im not a wax statue but I’m 6’5 muscular and pretty good looking, I just don’t seem to meet many women I’m into these days, and have gotten unlucky meeting ones who turned out to have rotten cores or life circumstances got between us. I’ve thought about maybe visiting South America because I find Latina women extremely sexy but there are basically none where I live in Australia, but I don’t like the idea of taking advantage of being wanted just for my wallet, maybe my pride is getting in the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 06:46 AM |
| 16 | How do you avoid desperation and despair as you get older?I have no tolerance for those scummy cavemen, they fucking ruin dating for women and decent men. They need to be chemically castrated tbh or I don’t know give them free rib removal surgery so they can go suck themselves | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 05:09 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?I’m trying to be objective but I guess we’re emotional creatures which probably answers my question anyway. I do have a question that you briefly mentioned in your post, how the fuck do people date others who have zero personality and nothing ever to say like your old roommates gf? I know guys (and girls) will quite often put up if they find really sexy but I’ve tried having dates with women like this and it was the most boring soul sucking experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/24 03:53 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?I guess you’re right, but I thought being physically fit with ambition and self sacrificing were pillars of masculinity more than just being a self absorbed asshole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/24 02:29 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?In order to discover their horse cock or marathon man abilities they have to already be willing to fuck then which seems like a catch 22 to me Also how broken are people that they put excitement over stability and respect in a relationship fucking hell might as well play Russian roulette | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 02:26 PM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?I’m not gonna deny this outright because I think it holds true often enough but surely any well adjusted woman isn’t going to respond well to being treated with any disrespect at least if she’s looking for a long term partner Admittedly self respecting women are probably in the minority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 12:36 PM |
| 3 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?But can’t you see the paradox - how would she even know he’s got a bit dick unless she’s already willing to have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 10:47 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?We really are a pitiful species aren’t we | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 10:46 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?Yeah but when the argument about good sex or being dicknatized comes up all I can think is... how did they even get to the stage of having sex? It seems like a catch 22 where in order for that to work they must already be intimate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 07:36 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?You don’t need to weigh up dating like stock investments but you absolutely should put sufficient forethought and have some criteria you seek in a partner, and if you allow such significant decisions to be determined by capricious emotions then you’re either mentally unwell or a fucking idiot who probably deserves to suffer the aftermath of their idiocy And I can think of many things less sexy than being stable and predictable… being a scumbag narcissist should be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 06:04 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?That’s a Fair theory, I just don’t even understand how they meet each other. Are these guys blatantly lying about everything on dating apps or do they sneak out and go to underground dog fighting rings or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 05:59 AM |
| 1 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?Apparently these women have never heard of ted bundy, or Charles Ponzi or any case of someone who appeared confident to hide sinister intentions. The weird thing is that when telling people about a guy they like women won’t say ‘oh they’re so confident because they know it’s not an attribute in itself, yet apparently it draws them like a moth to a flame | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 05:55 AM |
| 13 | How do you explain the phenomenon of ‘high quality’ falling for absolute dregs?Interesting how being a deadbeat causes some guys to become completely invisible to women whilst in other cases they become like a fixer up project | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/24 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?I’m sure you have your reasons but you might want to see a psychologist if you’re not because that’s a major issue | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?Perhaps but if we remained that way most children would be conceived of essentially rape so that’s a dubious line of reasoning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 03:35 AM |
| 3 | Do most women really dislike being approached in general?Yeah it’s crazy how many guys don’t know or don’t seem to care. As soon as she calls for security I’m out of there in a flash | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 02:33 AM |
| 3 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?1) in my mind love isn’t defined by playfulness and fun, it’s about deep respect and empathy - that sounds like you’re confusing it with lust 2) of course trauma dumping is unattractive but that’s not what I’m referring to when I say deep necessarily more like philosophy of why we’re here, goals and aspirations, what makes us fulfilled and so on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?Well unless it’s just casual sex Isn’t it a matter of also determining if your values align? The best conversations I have oscillate between vulgar banter and profound deep musings. One without the other gets either too vapid or too depressing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?Why tho ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?Makes sense. I do agree that most people simply aren’t compatible and many try to brute force it. Do you remember what any of the questions were specifically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 08:35 AM |
| 8 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?What If they start doing it to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?I am looking for a longer term thing at the moment but I need to keep enough sexual attraction that she still wants to fuck me besides just confiding in me so I guess I need to know when to draw the line and make it known that I’m still looking for a sexual partner not a therapy client or something If you have any advice about a good way to do that I’m all ears | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:52 AM |
| 6 | Does vulnerability and open communication tend to kill some sexual tension early in the dating process?So what’s the conclusion? Avoid most topics and just have dumb surface level flirty conversation until you’re officially dating or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/24 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?That’s true physical enhancements are still hijacking our mating heuristics and I would expect that they’re not the only reason why a guy would date a woman, just as I expect people to look past confidence, maybe I’m being unrealistic though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 01:30 PM |
| 0 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?It sounds like you’re definitely more discerning than a lot of women then ( and a lot of men for that matter) But I’d say most narcissist aren’t that subtle if you read between the lines but they still manage to beguile a lot of people unfortunately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?Reason to be confident = think you’re better than the next guy OR realise that appearing confident helps you get laid. It can be as simple as that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:30 AM |
| 3 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?Yeah really insecure people are a drain but most really self secured people I know are relatively quiet and don’t feel a need to be overtly bold or loud and so on many social settings they may get overpowered by the ones who do feel like they need to prove themselves- and many of the apparently confident types are bitterly insecure beneath their bravado. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:15 AM |
| 2 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?Unfortunately very many women mistake arrogance and narcissism with confidence in my judgment Think about it - if that sort of thing was only met with ridicule and rejection eventually most men would stop behaving that way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 06:05 AM |
| 10 | Why is confidence such an aphrodisiac?Confidence is a (inaccurate) touchstone for competence which was historically highly sexually desirable because it indicated that a man could successfully protect and provide whilst men just want fertile looking and motherly women I think. Maybe I answered my own question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/24 05:57 AM |
| 2 | How do you rank the importance of these traits / factors in a potential partner?I don’t want to come across too critical but as someone who’s gone through different phases and subcultures is it really that important that someone has the same aesthetic as you? Most goths I know are about style over substance anyway. They might listen to black veil brides (or the cure if they have better taste) and have an Edgar Allen Poe verse tattooed on them but it’s not really much deeper than that and some of them are boring some are disrespectful pigs etc Maybe I’m being too simplistic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 09:17 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever had a realization, or epiphany, about dating that helped put things in perspective?Having said that I’ve met some really boring people with outwardly interesting lifestyles and some really interesting accountants and stuff it’s mostly a matter of inner views, sense of humour, how they express themselves etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/24 03:47 AM |
| – | Why do ladies often assume I'm not interested if I don't try to jump their bones on the 1st or 2nd date?There are a lot of thirsty bastards out there but I would say all in all they’re a vocal minority. I wish we could get rid of them because they just ruin the dating and even casual sex landscape for other men as well as women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 01:05 PM |
| – | Why do ladies often assume I'm not interested if I don't try to jump their bones on the 1st or 2nd date?I do it all besides holding their hand. To me its a gesture more intimate than kissing and more appropriate for established couples. You wouldn’t generally hold hands with someone you meet on a night out unless it’s as some sort of funny act like linking arms or something. I’ve asked friends and they tell me they never really hold hands on a 1st date and it almost feels like lovebombing to me Or is it an arrow to a womans heart ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 12:37 PM |
| – | Why do ladies often assume I'm not interested if I don't try to jump their bones on the 1st or 2nd date?Not fucking on the first date is considered reserved now? Goddamn | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 12:08 PM |
| – | Why do ladies often assume I'm not interested if I don't try to jump their bones on the 1st or 2nd date?Which is what I’m doing right (besides hand holding which has always seemed too intimate for a first or second date) Also half the time they show little interest then turn around and ask why I wasn’t interested in them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/24 12:07 PM |
| 2 | A lot of alpha male types are just as desperate and pathetic as anyone elseIs your only ambition in life to have sex at any cost? Surely you’re worth more than that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?And the irony is that a lot of jock types are actually extremely desperate. Maybe not with one individual woman but usually their ability to get women is the cornerstone of their confidence and things get ugly when they get rejected / denied for some time as I’ve seen happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/24 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?Yeah good point. It’s just tough because not only do I need that but mutual sexual attraction and we both need to be single and looking to meet someone and that narrow the market down into a tiny rock pool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?That might explain the in person differences but it doesn't explain why I have a harder time on dating apps and women are more likely to ghost me or flake on dates before we've met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 05:33 AM |
| 2 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?Golden age and dark age I like that. I was in a Golden age until early December (unfortunately I was busy working and had relatives staying here so I didn't really have time to capitalise on it) since then I've barely had a match on dating apps and the two women I was arranging a date with ghosted me, and now it seems that women in public (at my job) aren't even smiling or flirting like they were before. I don't believe there's some supernatural force behind it or anything but it's a really stra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:18 AM |
| 6 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?I think the caveat is that you need to still be getting out there meeting people and embracing opportunities to date women though right. Id I stop trying so hard I tend to stop going to a lot of social events and I walk around with my earphones not really inviting conversations so naturally I'm not going to have many dates | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:03 AM |
| 8 | Any explanations as to why dating seems to be feast or famine?Being in a relationship can certainly help because it serves as tacit confirmation that you're at least desirable to someone else, but surely the strategy of not pursuing anyone so they come to you only works if you're objectively a very desirable person. Plus when I stop looking, I barely go out because that's the main reason I would go to most social events, so unless I meet someone at work or social sport or through a friend (all of which are very unlikely) then the chances are would seem to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceNo I mean mating dynamics are bullshit the same way I think capitalism is bullshit: it’s real and it works but I wish it didn’t because it just demonstrates how illogical most people are and allows assholes to exploit people by learning how to hijack the mating selection process | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceI understand mating dynamics I just think they’re a load of horseshit and people ought to be ridiculed for throwing themselves at pieces of shit or getting obsessed with people not downplaying it with memes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/24 07:46 AM |
| 0 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceNever heard of it, is that a red pill term? I don’t think it applies only to one man in a woman’s life time, just one man at a time though Is there a term for a woman who at a certain age decides to start going for more meek stable guys after being fucked around by alpha assholes in her earlier years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceSurely not that shrewd or they wouldn’t so often pick men who are no good for them where everyone else can see it but them. The more I think about it certain women deserve a share in the blame for the existence of assholes by rewarding their behaviour. In theory if a disrespectful person never got what they wanted then unless they were a real sociopath they would moderate their behaviour eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 10:15 PM |
| 4 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceIt could be something subconscious or you see a side of him that most look past… it could even be that you have unorthodox preferences that he fulfils. There’s probably no point digging into it too deeply just take it for what it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 02:13 PM |
| 3 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceI understand women are put off by a man who puts them on a pedestal but I still don’t understand the attraction to guys who treat them like trash. Many people want what they think they can’t have but that doesn’t mean I’m going to look past the fact that someone is a bad person and doesn’t respect me just to prove that I’m capable of getting them. Do they all lack self respect or are they so stupid they think that they will be the exception? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 08:31 AM |
| 2 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceFunny how that approach never seems to work for guys who aren’t actually pieces of shit though. Maybe it seems more obvious that they’re putting on an act? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 08:10 AM |
| 3 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceIt's the nature not the nomenclature, love isn't equivalent with what I'm describing. Love is based in deep respect and can be platonic, limerence or infatuation isn't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 06:31 AM |
| 4 | Women suffer from oneitis at least as much as men in my experienceSometimes. Not always. I don't even believe in love in the starry eyed soulmate sense, but it's obvious that some people just want affection from certain people as a means of validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Is it actually possible to have a relationship without any power dynamics and head games?But it shouldn’t feel like you’re putting in hard effort necessarily right? I mean I put effort into writing music but it doesn’t exactly feel like it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Is it actually possible to have a relationship without any power dynamics and head games?It’s not just black and white though right there is degrees of it? I’m sure everyone is slightly insecure and capable of feeling jealous etc What are the early signs you look for though?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/23 12:23 AM |
| – | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?How long did you search for your Henry cavil? Most peoples fear of being alone convinces them to call it in too soon and they end up compromising on major areas, not just physical appearance but I know plenty of people who wind up with people who have kids they didn’t really want, who have different goals or don’t have much in common and I doubt it’s all due to a responsible approach reconciling fantasy and reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 01:46 AM |
| 3 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?Tell that to all the people who wound up with manipulators or got fucked around by their employers and missed promotions or didn’t have the money to go back and study to change careers etc. I mean technically youre right but theoretically that statement doesn’t sit right because it’s so dependent on luck and other factors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?Say its 1 in 50 women for me, there’s still a slim chance that I will meet them unless I’m going to speed dating every weekend or something And a lot of events aren’t really ideal for meeting people anyway, clubs are more about casual sex, work can be off limits, dating apps suck and so on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 10:50 AM |
| 4 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?Then weirdly enough I know good attractive enough people who are overlooked and really struggle with dating. It doesn’t seem to add up. Sometimes it seems like most people are desperate and will put up with all sorts of abuse then they’ll also cut you off for taking a bit too long to reply to a message or some trivial reason. I think certain people play into the desperation and know how to love bomb though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?Are you suggesting people don’t lower their standards over time and lack self respect? It sounds cynical but it’s plainly the case with many people I’ve known I don’t go around saying this to people because I’m not completely autistic but that doesn’t mean it’s not occurring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?I guess for a lot of people it is. It’s Sad really but that’s the world we live in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 05:05 AM |
| 3 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?I’d rather stay single than make significant compromises or feel like I’m settling, there’s something about that which doesn’t sit well with me. Of course you will need to compromise in a relationship but it I don’t have strong sexual and emotional attraction it won’t work either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?But I think a lot of folks compromise too majorly and are too rash rushing into relationships which accounts for the fact so many of them fall apart or aren’t healthy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 04:32 AM |
| 3 | “Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence”That fails to explain all the arrogant guys who shouldn’t be worthy of that arrogance but do well for it regardless This is more of an argument with peoples stupid criteria for determining value I know I’m just howling at the moon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 01:25 PM |
| 3 | “Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence”What? I appreciate all the assumptions but they’re a far cry from reality, I have quiet confidence not arrogance but the purpose of this post was to argue why I think people are fucking stupid for being blinded by confidence not that it doesn’t mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 12:55 PM |
| 1 | “Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence”I mean I have really (although I’m still self critical) but I wish the world would see it for what it is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 08:20 AM |
| 4 | “Nothing is more unattractive to women than low self confidence”I’m just responding to a common sentiment, but I’ve seen uglier charismatic guys beat good looking guys who lack outward confidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/23 07:35 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelYeah but even when you’re dating someone I imagine you’d like to have some sexy conversation which I would consider a form of flirting at least right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 01:49 PM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelDo you think it needs to have a sexual substrate or could it be any sort of playful banter between a man and a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 12:48 PM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelIn my experience you still need to be desirable as a partner in their eyes but it obviously helps a lot I know you say you’re natural but what do you think is the key to flirting? I think my humour can actually detract sometimes because it becomes too dark and scathing and I end up coming across as a bit too cyclical rather than sexy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 12:47 PM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelBut isn’t it a slight catch 22? In order to get her that invested in you in the first place oftentimes you need to be able to flirt unless you’re sufficiently good looking or they’re desperate to meet someone etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:14 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelYeah I never understood how that terse approach worked for guys but I guess that’s why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:12 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelJust because it works with one promiscuous woman doesn’t mean it will work with most | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:10 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelto fight? Can you elaborate a bit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:08 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelYeah flirting in a shopping centre with nothing noteworthy going on is about as tough as it gets. I’ve had it work for me before but it’s not something that ever becomes easy unless you want to spit out the same script every time which I don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 11:07 AM |
| – | Most guys are godawful at flirting and their success isn’t reflective of their skill levelIt seems like most guys never look up advice or have ‘practice’ sessions as such and they hang shit on you for admitting to it- it’s assumed that it’s more or else acquired naturally like learning to walk | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 10:46 AM |
| 1 | How is it that such severely dysfunctional and socially inept people so often seem to be in long term relationships?Good point and I’m assuming some of these guys are more willing to settle with almost anyone who shows them interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:18 PM |
| 1 | How is it that such severely dysfunctional and socially inept people so often seem to be in long term relationships?I mean it can work that way but If a guy doesn’t seem overall desirable than I doubt it will pay off like that Something about playing hard to get if you’re hard to want | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Do you think it's fair to say that women can never get too much attention from a man they're interested in?Actually yeah it is hard when you're trying to gauge how much affection someone wants to be shown, knowing that too much or too little will sink the boat and often working with limited feedback. If people communicated more clearly things would be different but apparently that's not very sexy or a lot of folks enjoy playing a game of push and pull. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Are most men actually geared for romance or is it usually just a means to an end?Most standard romantic gestures are pretty thoughtless and don’t require any authenticity - everyone knows this and yet most still fall for it because most people are naive wishful thinkers. A healthy adult relationship should basically be a friendship with sex, not some juvenile dance with each party striving to strum the other ones heartstrings like little lover birds which lends itself to manipulation and deception and all sorts of bullshit. Yet most people will yawn and roll their eyes whils… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 07:22 AM |
| -1 | Are most men actually geared for romance or is it usually just a means to an end?Id rather be hopeless romantic than romantically hopeless (like me) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 05:24 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedI'm getting this inscribed on my tombstone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 10:17 AM |
| 0 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedI’m making a case for why I think the disgust is misguided though. Hopefully it at least imparts some perspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 05:43 AM |
| -3 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedI find it hard to believe that the average guy is a pushy disrespectful asshole but maybe I’m being naive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:53 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedBut most women still do rely on the man to make the moves Also why are you demonising physical sexual attraction? It’s not the only thing I care about but it’s a prerequisite for a relationship so that’s why I approach someone. I’m only going to ask if they want to meet up if we have some chemistry not just giving her my number and running off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 04:51 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedWhy do you assume women would never be attracted to men who approach them? Im a tall handsome enough guy and I’m sure there are women who would actually like to get to know me but would never make the first move because of the social stigma and because it’s a very vulnerable thing to do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:37 AM |
| -2 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedThat’s a complete strawman argument. Unless Ive been living under a rock most guys don’t go roaming in search of women they aren’t even attracted to. Im talking about a guy who happens to see an attractive lady walking past, they make eye contact and she doesn’t give any cues that she’s not interested so he walks over and strikes a conversation with her. There’s nothing devious about that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:25 AM |
| 0 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedWhat the hell are you talking about? I would never approach a woman I wasn’t attracted to and I assume only a minority of desperate sex addicted losers would. Who convinced you that it was the norm for men to approach women they aren’t attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:22 AM |
| 4 | There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarrantedAgreed. Oh are you implying that’s what I’m doing here? What do you really regard all cold approaching as being annoying and creepy? I have to assume you’ve had some nasty experiences that have left you that bitter and cynical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Is the average man really an obnoxious sex pest?Well how would you turn every conversation sexual without coming across as juvenile or obnoxious? Let’s say she’s talking about her dog or her job as a marine biologist or her family, how are you going to turn that sexual without seeming like a slimeball? And why should I have to? If I consider myself to be a desirable man then why should I need to? Do women really lose interest in a guy if he talks about things besides sex? What about building rapport, demonstrating value through humour and sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Is the average man really an obnoxious sex pest?But there’s definitely a right and wrong way to go about it. Women will tolerate more from a guy they deem attractive but some things are pretty universally unappreciated and liable to make women feel uncomfortable I also don’t think that just talking to them like a friend is going to ruin any chances of having sex or a relationship as many men seem to worry - I’ve had sex with a woman right after talking about Greek mythology and mental illness, it doesn’t need to be all teenage romance shit in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 09:08 AM |
| – | Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour?I never said it was that’s why I differentiated it from regular masculinity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour?Fair point but I’d say toxicity is just any type of behaviour taken to the extreme and in the case of the stereotypical male / female behaviours I’d say toxic femininity isn’t just internalised misogyny as some people do but subtle psychological bullying, manipulation, passive aggression, scapegoating, self righteousness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour?Well that or a superiority complex or some sort of dysfunction that isn’t or shouldn’t be desirable right - it doesn’t seem like that’s just men being men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 11:53 PM |
| 5 | Men are infantilised at least as much as women in modern discourseTreated as if they’re children / simpletons - oh men are just interested in endless sex, men can’t express themselves, prone to violence - think of the stereotype of the average dude. I just find it strange how these persist and come from the mouths of people I’ve met who seem to be so concerned with political correctness otherwise and wouldn’t dare make crass statements about women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 9 | Men are infantilised at least as much as women in modern discourseIt’s in the title. I’ve ran into tons of people lately who consider themselves to be intelligent and open minded and socially conscious and then make the most crass statements about men without blinking and I think it needs of be challenged But this did get a bit digressive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Are ladies more likely to become infatuated with a particular guy in their life than guys are with a particular lady?What’s the Blackpill you speak of? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Are ladies more likely to become infatuated with a particular guy in their life than guys are with a particular lady?That’s reasonable but it seems like women are more likely to become love blind and infatuated with one guy to the point where even if she’s meets men who treat her significantly better and may have more aligned values and humour and stuff she still doesn’t really consider them as potential romances - that’s a huge generalisation but it’s based on my experience anyhow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Are ladies more likely to become infatuated with a particular guy in their life than guys are with a particular lady?Even if they are, one of the key differences is that they aren’t so easily able to attract women as these women are with men, or at least they don’t believe they are - that’s why it’s more staggering to me when women get tunnel vision for one guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 05:08 AM |
| – | Most ‘cool’ and popular people seriously lack social skills so don’t be too harsh on yourselfI had to avoid mentioning that because it’s against this subreddits rules apparently but yeah the halo effect counts for a lot, however it’s still no reason not to bother sharpening your skills or trying to connect with people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Most ‘cool’ and popular people seriously lack social skills so don’t be too harsh on yourselfThere’s some truth to that but I didn’t want to derail the post by focusing on it - I don’t underhand why so many people seem to reward these types of obviously self seeking egotistical manipulators. But even if that works in some cases as we saw with the fat orange bastard it’s not a strategy that anyone with any integrity or self respect would adopt | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Best strategy for approaching women out and about during the day?If you actually listen to the shit that drips out of the mouths of most jocks it’s honestly quite boring and devoid of wit, and their social skills aren’t half as sharp as they think, but looks and reputation gets you a long way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 04:45 AM |
| 3 | Best strategy for approaching women out and about during the day?I have no problems socialising in the right environment. Most clubs actively discourage conversation and encourage nonverbal sexual rapport which is still a form of socialising but not a very high level one I know guys who can hardly string a sentence together but they do well at clubs because they re decent looking and they can dance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 04:25 AM |
| 4 | Best strategy for approaching women out and about during the day?What? Most people I know hate clubs for those reasons. Who the fuck likes being surrounded by sweaty drunken strangers competing for the same women who are screeching like opossums often just trying to fish free drinks from guys meanwhile obnoxious overly loud music plays bouncers power trip and you wake up the next day feeling like dogshit 60 dollars down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 01:02 AM |
| 4 | Best strategy for approaching women out and about during the day?Are you referring to dating apps and clubs? They’re neither easy nor successful for most people and they’re crap for the reasons I listed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Best strategy for approaching women out and about during the day?I’m good at making people laugh and feel heard and engaged, not so good at the sexy stuff since I worry about making them uncomfortable so I probably don’t push it as far as some guys. Usually it’s still enough to get them interested because they can see I’m a decent guy and I’m 6’5 and pretty handsome which obviously helps. I’ve watched pick up videos but they all seem a bit slimy and so unlike me that I would feel like a fraud if I acted that way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 12:27 AM |
| – | Are women really that disgusted by inexperienced/virgin men?But also you can get up to speed with someone really fast if you’re willing to learn their body and preferences, I don’t really understand why it’s such a huge deal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/23 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?This case was a complete stranger at the beach who must have noted which car she got out of and implies that perhaps he was already following her unless she went back to her car for something but even so i could not believe that they didn’t see it this way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?But the implication is that they’ve been admiring them from afar and knew which car was theirs so I thought surely that’s enough to set off most women’s creep detectors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?Not in my books it doesn’t. I’ve most often heard it used in relation to a situation where a guy has been flirting and building rapport with a lady or has reason to believe she’s romantically interested but is having apprehensions about revealing his hand and being vulnerable lest it backfires. I don’t endorse guys approaching women who don’t display outward signs of receptivity such as closed off body language, avoiding eye contact or walking quickly but I don’t condemn it like you do. It’s how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?Maybe by your idiosyncratic definitions but most men use them to convey mustering the courage to express their interest in a woman Also it’s hardly a privilege as it’s not exclusive to men - women are free to do so in return and welcome in fact | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 02:45 PM |
| 2 | How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like?I’ve slept with enough women, I just don’t find it very satisfying and very rarely meet one who I want to lock down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 01:06 PM |
| 6 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?Seems like a strange cavil. Would you rather I say aiming to get laid or chasing tail or cuffing like most younger guys? stuff like that seems worse if anything. I also use it because it's an amusing anachronism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 11:46 AM |
| 3 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?I'd never roll the dice with someone who I've never even seen before, I'm even apprehensive with dating apps, even people I've video called looked and acted way different in person, but I'm glad they both got what they wanted I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 08:59 AM |
| 4 | Is this sort of thing creepy or cute?Because they didn't even bother to introduce themselves to you and you have no idea what they even look like Would you rather a girl talked to you or left a note on your car basically saying that she's been spying on you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 07:35 AM |
| 1 | How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like?A bit of both I guess I could be putting myself in positions to meet more but most women I’m just not attracted to Theres one woman I met years ago who I still regret not pushing harder to be with because I thought id find others like her but honestly I havent. I don’t believe in soulmates or anything but every now and then you meet someone who you effortlessly connect with and you have aligned values and goals and things and I think as you get older they’re more few an far between | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 01:56 AM |
| 0 | How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like?I have really specific physical preferences and always have unfortunately it they don’t fit within them I’m just not sexually attracted but they also need to have a dark sense of humour, open mind, empathy, curiosity, stability, appreciation of art and culture - I could try harder to find them but they’re still like unicorns. I can’t justify setting for anything less than that because then I feel like I’ve closed the door on ever meeting them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 05:18 PM |
| 6 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger people‘Be charming’ is quite a tall order haha very few people I meet are actually charming in my eyes but I get the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 12:47 PM |
| 3 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peopleIt’s sort of like ship of Theseus thought experiment - how much can you distil, expunge, bastardise, alter and ignore before you’re dealing with something completely different to the source material? (Which in this case I think is a good thing since the source material is barbaric) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 11:04 AM |
| -1 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peopleWhat they’re told in Sunday school is such a far cry from the words of the New Testament, which is a patchwork of Chinese whispers and hearsay derived from old Palestinian men’s dreams delusions and hallucinations, transliterated, plagiarised from Jewish texts, and altered by Roman emperors to push certain agendas. Even if you dismiss the Old Testament as parables, Jesus has some horribly barbaric quotes on slaughtering non believers, abandoning one’s family etc which don’t tend to make their wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 10:46 AM |
| 2 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peoplewell besides not wanting to subject myself to that mind rotting sinister dogshit it’s likely any woman I meet actively attending church will have a religious background and family, and no child of mine is getting baptised or having anything to do with religion ( if they gravitate toward it or their own volition later in life so be it) - I actually see religious indoctrination as a form of child abuse and that’s not even considering the rampant molestation that takes place in gods cheer squad. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 10:38 AM |
| 5 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peopleThose are all valid options, I just sometimes feel slimy about the notion of hitting on someone shortly after joining which I would have to do because life moves quickly and I’ve missed more than a few opportunities by hesitating How would you go about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 06:52 AM |
| 6 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peopleThat’s where my parents and grandparents met, and my best friend is marrying someone he met at work. It’s more appropriate in certain jobs - currently I don’t meet anyone though my job since it’s a team of guys and we don’t really have much interface with others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Dating would be so much easier if there were wholesome communal meeting places for younger peopleYeah I’m as antitheistic as can be so that’s a no go But a secular type group with the same sense of community would be great | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/23 06:24 AM |
| 3 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?Hats off for defining exactly what you want and sticking to your guns but I fear that might turn the dating pool only a puddle of purified water (I like to think I’m in that puddle but in reality I’m probably in the swamp next door | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 12:57 PM |
| 2 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?That’s hardcore. I like to think most women aren’t that volatile but I guess a lot are I hope you’ve kicked the habit especially before having kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 11:13 AM |
| 1 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?But you can’t dare mention that such behaviour is often reinforced by women who respond positively toward it - or if they recognise that then they attribute it to internalised misogyny Although I think the minority of women are into this behaviour and they’re not women I would want to date anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 09:29 AM |
| 8 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?Sounds like that ideal man is an emotionally void, boring, hyper-masculine inhuman who might be able to materially provide but would be absolutely shit company to any well adjusted woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 05:59 AM |
| -1 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?I've heard it said that women often like a man who has the capacity to be a brute but restrains himself and treats them with kindness, whereas a man who's uniformly nice their kindness isn't worth as much. Do you think there's any truth to that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 04:31 AM |
| 3 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?Yeah a lot of guys jump the gun and dig their own graves, but at least they oust themselves because they don't deserve to get what they want if that's their approach. I think I have the opposite problem - I'm too reserved because I'm paranoid of being labelled as pushy or making someone uncomfortable and that's resulted in me being too discreet and them assuming I must not be that interested (especially since they're used to guys being so forward) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 04:29 AM |
| 7 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?Where do you draw the line with disclosure of one’s struggles and vulnerability versus wallowing in self pity? I feel like it’s the way you frame it and what you’re doing about it that makes the difference, but expressing vulnerability can be a double edged sword as I’ve realised | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man?It’s funny how petulance manifests in a lot of older and materially successful men, then you read between the lines or see them when things don’t go their way and realise they haven’t emotionally matured since high school | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/23 03:06 AM |
| 3 | Why is the average person so bitterly insecure and what (if anything) can be done about it?Well I don’t mean to gaslight you - maybe you are just a rare bird who’s incredibly self secure but are you sure your drive isn’t steeper in fear or insecurity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 05:39 AM |
| 5 | Why is the average person so bitterly insecure and what (if anything) can be done about it?I would argue that existential insecurity is a primary motivator for religious belief, wouldn’t you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:55 AM |
| – | Women have zero tolerance policy for even slightly socially awkward menIronically I’ve found most frat boy types are actually really awkward behind the veneer of macho energy, as are most beauty Queen types | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:36 AM |
| 1 | The consensus here is that unless a man is an absolute specimen he can expect to get dropped for simply looking at a lady the wrong way - but the reality doesn’t line upI thought reddit was pretty mainstream these days. Although it does still amuse me how 90% of people here seems to be working in or studying IT so maybe you’re right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 10:55 AM |
| 8 | The consensus here is that unless a man is an absolute specimen he can expect to get dropped for simply looking at a lady the wrong way - but the reality doesn’t line upWomen in older generations basically had no say over who they betrothed so there goes half your argument, realistically most men didn’t either, both of my great grandpas were put in arranged marriages (they approved them but they didn’t have all these endless options) Money isn’t the irresistible aphrodisiac people here think it is. I know a guy in his late 20s with eight figures and a mansion that was left to him and he said it hasn’t really made any impact on his dating life besides maybe more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 07:50 AM |
| 1 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?What’s your definition of creep? Isn’t it a slight paradox if being a creep is the norm? I guess there are different levels though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?Hope any guy would do the same but this wasn’t a one off incident, I’ve had family members and friends complain but never seen it first hand so clearly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 02:56 PM |
| 0 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?That’s human nature in general. I’ve been ghosted flaked jilted and disrespected by women, my best friend was cheated on a few weeks before his wedding tried to stab him, my other friends ex girlfriend abducted his dog, my uncles ex wife was a gold digger who has turned their kids against him, women aren’t always the damsels in distress and they’re just as ruthlessly self seeking as men albeit less physically violent, perhaps even more manipulative and scheming at least from what my female frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 10:00 AM |
| 1 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?No because Arabian men never felt threatened by the rise of modern feminism and women with self determination, their society and religion cuts the tree before it has a chance to bear fruit And in what way do people here oppose women’s rights? They might hold sexist views but only a minority of scum would actually oppose their rights | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 09:55 AM |
| 0 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?In an ideal world, but do you really think that approach is realistically going to stamp out bad behaviour from the perpetrators? Even the law and recent social movements haven’t been enough. I make a point of calling it out when I see it (when I don’t think it will result in someone smashing a bottle in my face) but there will always be disrespectful opportunists and I don’t want them to completely ruin a woman’s chance at having a healthy relationship with a man because he convinces her that m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 11:14 AM |
| 0 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?There still has to be some pushback. Let’s say a woman becomes so embittered that she despises and distrusts all men, am I supposed to just agree with her thesis or should I not state the cliche not all men are the way she’s describing? If I leave her views unchallenged and make no attempt to impart some perspective where is that path going to lead her? Her attitude of generalised contempt will guarantee that she will never have another healthy relationship with a man, and while she might avoid … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 09:50 AM |
| -1 | What portion of men are actually loathsome slimy creepy scumbags in your experience?I assume this is hyperbole but if not, might I ask where the fuck do you live? Saudi Arabia? I don't know how guys behave behind closed doors but I'm pretty confident my cousins, friends and so on are respectful | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 05:21 AM |
| 3 | Are we entering a renaissance of offline courtship? Or is that wishful thinking?Yeah it makes sense. What doesn’t make as much sense is assuming that a guy with a cute dog must be a lovely nurturing man, as soon as I started using a dog pic on a dating app my success rate shot through the roof haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Are we entering a renaissance of offline courtship? Or is that wishful thinking?I didn’t realise that was the proposal for the $500 tinder subscription. That’s obscene. Also all my hobbies are solitary which doesn’t help and I haven’t met anyone thru mixed sport yet - I could try joining more female dominated hobbies but that doesn’t quite sit right with me doing it exclusively to meet women . I know I’m a respectful guy so I don’t feel creepy but it seems a bit unnecessary… maybe I should just give it a go though, something like dance classes or yoga with subsidiary benefi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Are we entering a renaissance of offline courtship? Or is that wishful thinking?For the day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | Are we entering a renaissance of offline courtship? Or is that wishful thinking?The friends I have who were abused most heinously were by people they dated from the friends group albeit usually towards the outside of it so it can be deceiving but it does make sense. It’s just tough when you have a large friend group but most have long term partners and don’t go out much, and you don’t really have the time or energy to forge a whole new friend group | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Are we entering a renaissance of offline courtship? Or is that wishful thinking?Always found it a bit strange Yeah it’s a screening to make sure they’re not complete weirdos but the chances of finding someone you’re really compatible with in a small friend group seems unlikely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 03:18 PM |
| – | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?I still see it occasionally, mainly on profiles of people who look like they’ve never made a good decision in their life They’re probably not consciously seeking drama as much as I implied but it finds them and they don’t do anything to resolve it I’m not sure I agree with your last conclusion, if you’re going to accuse me of causing drama without evidence I’ll have to accuse you of being dramatic without evidence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?Interesting - adventurous, curious, open minded, humorous - yet that’s not the sort of drama which I see so many people getting drawn toward | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?The question is why are people so addicted to drama that they seek it out in personal relationships likely at the expense of their own wellbeing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?No I mean drama as in arguments, overreactions, sulking, gossiping, backstabbing, mood swings, it seems like many people actually find this sort of thing thrilling on some level even in a partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?That's verging on Jordan Peterson hyperbole (women are chaos men are order) but there's some truth to it, however it seems that many people aren't only attracted to spontaneity and adventure they're attracted to argumentation and tension and unhinged behavior which makes no sense to me from an evolutionary standpoint | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?I agree that society is too quick to scorn risk takers when their escapades backfire considering how they shaped civilisation but I wouldn’t conflate adventurousness with melodrama - many of these drama whores lack any sprit of adventure meanwhile my cousin is a daredevil with extreme sports but level headed with relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 11:12 AM |
| 3 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?The Godfather and a live match (although football is boring as fuck) Which would you rather live: a stable relationship with a level headed partner who holds firm to their convictions and provides support when you need it or a capricious volatile drama queen who turns everything into an argument as though they're on a reality tv show? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:48 AM |
| 7 | Why is drama so widely appealing / why is being level-headed often considered boring?If that's really their mentality they should address it with a therapist because they're a moth drawn toward a flame and it's not a healthy foundation for a relationship let alone raising children. They should also find a few hobbies and learn to enjoy stimulating conversation over childish drama. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/23 10:39 AM |
| 1 | In an age where you’re damned if you try to get sexual too quickly and damned if you stay platonic for too long, what’s the best approach?I think maturity implies it’s a point most people will naturally reach when I’m not actually sure if that’s the case honestly - it seems that the portion of women who prefer straightforward communications are the minority… even when it comes to marking boundaries for sex it seems like such discussion is a huge turn off… I’m not sure why exactly, maybe it interrupts a dark fantasy. Anyway I guess I just need to find women who do appreciate open communication | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 09:17 AM |
| 1 | In an age where you’re damned if you try to get sexual too quickly and damned if you stay platonic for too long, what’s the best approach?Yeah I just don’t know why so many women give such mixed signals and aren’t more forthright if they want it - is there still a stigma about them being slutshamed for wanting it? Until I get very clear green lights I’m really hesitant about making physical moves especially with my hands (somehow that seems more likely to offend than going for a kiss which they can easily just dodge if they aren’t wanting it) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 08:27 AM |
| 1 | In an age where you’re damned if you try to get sexual too quickly and damned if you stay platonic for too long, what’s the best approach?Whenever I’ve tried that straight shooting approach women respond poorly though I think they enjoy the ambiguity, maybe it gives them a sense of plausible deniability | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 04:50 AM |
| – | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?Good point but the irony is that a lot of those nonchalant fuck boys really do give a fuck because attracting women is the cornerstone of their whole self esteem complex so they might not care about one specific woman as such but they fall apart when they can’t seem to sleep with anyone for awhile and I’ve seen it The most self assured people I know don’t announce that they don’t give a fuck what strangers think it’s just something you realise after spending more time with them - but of course t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 03:40 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?Nor do I. At a certain point you just have to accept that people are enigmas or you’ll be driven to derangement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 06:07 PM |
| 0 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?I’ll never really understand the allure of unstable / abusive / weird people but such is life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?I mean Ted bundy received love letters and proposals in prison but that’s almost most understandable than the weirdos were talking about. People are strange | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?Sorry to hear about your wife passing away, but I guess I just hate drama and arguments - I find people interesting if they have a deep mind not an emotional personality, and of course I need to find them sexy as well. But I guess everyone is looking for someone slightly different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 5 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?But I’ll never understand why an intelligent person would choose a volatile partner over a stable and more predictable one - no sympathy when that backfires in their face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 07:11 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else find that most truly weird people you know are often in relationships?That’s nerdy but Im talking about truly weird people like the guy wearing cat ears on the bus | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/23 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Good point. I also have to mask and contort myself for it to work, although I try to express myself more these days, I’m just not naturally built for romance it seems Weirdly it seems like even dumb fuck rednecks and macho moron jocks are more naturally built for relationships or at least they don’t seem to work too hard at it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Yeah I get it. I thought my cousins ex bf was a lovely guy but it turns out he was alienating her and tried to kill her with a knife so you really can’t tell It’s just hard because obviously you need to take a risk to meet someone who’s genuine I wish all the scumbags could be rounded up fed through a mulcher and used to fertilise gardens, but I know it’s not black and white. I just get so annoyed because they ruin it for everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 06:45 AM |
| 2 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?I’m a guy but I can sympathise with your situation too (a lot of guys think that getting so much attention is a blessing but it’s obviously not because quality matters over quantity) I’ve never understood the lengths guys will go to just to sleep with a woman, lying, playing the long game, risking their career etc surely they can find women who are just down for causal sex if they’re willing to invest that much effort but I guess it’s like a trophy in their mind Have you tried just breaking it o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 06:25 AM |
| 3 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?But my point is that there isn’t often an organic way to start talking with women in environments like grocery stores so you have to approach them or you won’t ever talk and it seems like the only women I meet naturally are women who I’m not very attracted to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 01:16 AM |
| 4 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?What the fuck do you think approaching means? What am I suppose to follow them down and aisle at the grocery store and make idle chatter about the garbanzo beans they’re buying? Most the time you have to approach someone or you’ll never meet them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:40 AM |
| 6 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Then what? I’m trying to save money and not go out so often I don’t really enjoy bars or clubs these days None of my friend know anyone they can introduce me to My hobbies are solitary Should I just be approaching people at the shops? That’s what I’ve started doing but it’s not easy these days | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 12:32 AM |
| 4 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Yeah I know it’s shit Realising the world is an unjust shithole is a bitter pill Some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth and live a privileged life without having to work hard or have heart others are born with a wooden spoon and break their back trying to crawl out of the gutter only to slide into the sewers My friend just developed schizophrenia last year and now his life is ruined. My cousin is paraplegic after a mountain bike accident. My neighbour was born deaf. Some people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 04:01 PM |
| 4 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Yeah I feel you How they talk and how they talk are two different things I’m sure that if you are as you say then there will be enough great women out there who will be thrilled to meet you but they will probably be few and far between and you’ll need to initiate it I don’t want to put the onus on women as being Frankensteins but I’ve known some shitcunt guys who were swarmed by women and it just reinforced the behaviour | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 03:15 PM |
| 6 | Anyone ever feel like modern dating is more trouble than it’s worth?Fair points, some guys have it so much easier than others And I guess circumstances are just as important as personal development I’m 6’5 muscular and quite handsome articulate and compassionate , put a lot of time into reading and learning, developing social skills and comedic ability etc but besides from when I was overseas I’ve never had to fend women off with a broomstick - when a woman gets to know me she often becomes quite invested but I nor any of my friends some of whom are slightly bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 01:25 PM |
| – | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?No because that’s not what I said. I asked if it gets easier for men and more difficult for women which is relative and it seems like if a guy doesn’t become a fat ugly deadbeat then it does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 07:01 PM |
| – | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Speak for yourself mate, I’m almost 30 and I’m flat broke! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Speak for yourself, I’m just as broke at 28 as I was at 18 haha But you might be right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/23 01:56 AM |
| 1 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Good point but I’ve accepted I’ll never be with my ideal woman if only because she’s basically a chimera of traits that can’t really exist in a real person, so I’ll have to compromise, and even then it’s not easy… ir seems like my mental and physical attraction to women is mutually exclusive haha I guess I’ve just gotten unlucky so far | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Well I don’t write the rules I’m just trying to figure out what they are among most people I don’t mind older women or women with extra pounds in fact I prefer that, but wondering about broader trends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?Or leave worthless comments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it’s true that dating gets easier for men and harder for women in their 30s?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFC7OyhaqrA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/23 09:07 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?It’s the definition of empirical evidence I’m relatively new to arguing with people like yourself who deny peoples experiences in favour of some flattering ideal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 07:13 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?But thats the issue isn’t it - according to many women were expected to ask explicitly because that shows respect, until we do it then it’s a socially inept turn off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 07:11 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?So if empirical experience isn’t worth anything then where are you getting your data? How are you so sure that you’re right? Because public discussions are obviously misleading | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:53 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?More like some women will do anything to avoid admitting hypocrisy on behalf of another woman Pointing it out suddenly becomes “you have to be a sex god and have them eating out of your hand” which doesn’t even address the question of explicit consent I don’t know what kind of sex most people are having but when I have sex there’s no begging or daddy dom shit, that’s not my style anyway I just find someone with mutual attraction we have foreplay then fuck | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:50 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?What the fuck are you talking about? Did you even read the post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 06:47 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?Well it seems like they’re making their own bed of nails by taking that view of it, but I guess it’s largely subconscious / evolutionary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 05:16 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?Based on personal experience and friends experience who I’ve discussed it with, what better evidence is there than empirical? It hasn’t stopped me from having sex when I have asked but it has made me think twice about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:43 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?It’s not prevented us from having sex but even a mildly noticeable reduction in arousal or potential awkwardness would be enough to dissuade many guys from asking - if women want guys to ask they should reinforce it by responding positively in the moment. You mention non verbal consent but the whole issue is that’s not enough apparently at least in mainstream narratives That cliched friend scenario is another way in which the walk doesn’t match the talk and leaves guys conflicted about how they’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:40 AM |
| – | Why does seeking explicit consent turn off so many women?The whole argument is that a guy should ask directly and get explicit consent though? Also how do I make a woman beg? We head to my apartment after a date start watching a movie start kissing then foreplay and sex I might be able to drag out the foreplay To me having some power play where I’m like “tell me how bad you want it” “so bad daddy blah blah” makes me cringe and laugh but if that’s what most women find sexy then maybe I should bite the bullet and incorporate that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 04:26 AM |
| 2 | 'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountabilityWell if they took more personal accountability they would be acting more thoughtfully, less mean toward other women, probably make better selections of partners, and it would have flow on effects Most of all I just don’t like to see double standards in effect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 04:26 PM |
| 3 | 'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountabilityHow so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 02:53 PM |
| 3 | 'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountabilityI’m not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with my sentiment but if that’s all it were I wouldn’t have posted this, some people take it as a hall pass to shirk personal responsibility though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 02:03 PM |
| 1 | 'Internalized misogyny' is too often used to dodge personal accountabilityWell by some peoples logic, not mine though Maybe the hardcore in cells or religious types who think women are the root of all evil | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Being a "good person" or not has zero impact on your dating lifeYeah but don't underestimate the impact that sex starvation can have on a young guy, in some cases it's their whole world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 05:18 AM |
| 1 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?What about option c) I’m attracted to her and could see myself having sex with her but I’d rather just get to know her on the first date because I need to build an emotional connection before I want to get sexual? I think that’s where I come unstuck with some women who think that if I was open to having sex with them I should be trying to finesse them into the sack on the first date | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 05:38 PM |
| -1 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?A lot of women are turned off by that question (citation: firsthand experience) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?Can you give me advice on how to flirt? I find that everyone’s idea of flirting differs and what might be too forward for one person is not even perceptible to someone else I try to weave mild sexual humour and innuendoes into the conversations and touch her when it feels right but I’m not one of those guys who’s squeezing her under the table and whispering in her ear about how badly he wants to fuck her and that sort of shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 02:03 AM |
| 2 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?Apparently more than just some sign Apparently I need to be trying to rip their clothes off or they assume I never want to see what’s under them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 07:30 PM |
| 3 | Do women often assume if a guy isn’t salivating over them that he must not be very interested?What’s your definition of acting interested? Constantly flirting and touching ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 07:27 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manBut nobody worth listening to or debating with would dare to suggest that men don’t suffer from their own array of serious trials and tribulations - my cousin was more or less suggesting this and I called her on her misandry and hypocrisy A lot of women wind up distrusting and disliking men collectively after bad encounters (which she definitely had since her previous bf tried to kill her) Now I could argue that women are shit at selecting good partners and only reinforce the wrong behaviours an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 06:03 PM |
| – | CMV: In nearly every metric we can measure in the west, the average woman is outperforming the average manThere are some pretty extreme assertions with presumably nothing more than anecdotal evidence In my own experience a lot of women have a lot of empathy for guys, and personally I know more callous guys who don’t treat women with baseline respect I agree that most all of the systemic barriers to women’s freedom and professional liberty have been removed by 2023 and of course there will remain a choir of self pitying types who can never be appeased or the misandrist types who clearly don’t actuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 05:42 PM |
| 4 | Which gender double standards and hypocrisies do you think are justified… and which are genuinely a result of cultural sexism and need to change?Asking for Consent is sexy except when you actually ask for it it’s not and can completely kill the moment apparently If a lady is in the mood for sex and a man turns it down she often doesn’t take it well at all… meanwhile if I guy is in the mood and she isn’t then he’s not allowed to press the point lest he be a pest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 05:14 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Fair points but how is that compatible with a healthy long term relationship where you’re going to have to see each other regularly and any mystique is going to evaporate eventually? Although surely as mature adults she will realise that she’s not a queen who needs to be entertained constantly and appreciate all the attributes you mentioned, and if they don’t then they can hit the road | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 03:15 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Yeah the hustle hard grind or die mindset creates boring clones but also generally only appeals to people lacking in imagination and nuance to begin with With that said although passion is attractive forging your own path by focusing on less mainstream more obscure hobbies and interests is going to narrow your appeal to women and can’t expect the average woman you meet to give a shit about it but I guess that just means you need to be selective which you should anyhow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:56 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?So let’s say she’s asking probing questions about you on a date (to try piece together your story to assess whether you’re safe legitimate and worth getting to know) how could you equivocate without seeming shady as though you have things to hide? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?So apparently you’re agreeing with me that hiking isn’t a great idea for a first date and thus contradicting yourself whilst claiming to know my character and dating situation based off of a post and then taking the moral high ground? I regret wasting time replying to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Your experience must have been very different to mine because in mt experience most women are weary of travelling to a secluded location with a stranger who could for all they know be a rapist murderer if not just weird and uncomfortable. Women often express interest in those sorts of dates but when the rubber meets the road most of them prefer the first date to be in a public place where they feel safe and can easily get away | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:02 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?You’re right about what? If we connect well over dinner or coffee then I might go elsewhere maybe another drink at another bar, a walk along the beach or park, or invite her back to my apartment for a cocktail and possibly sex if she seems really interested. An activity date seems more appropriate for a 2nd or 3rd date once you’ve established that you have some chemistry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Very good point - my cousin said as much when we were bellyaching about our dating misfortunes, he’s been a semi pro skier and mountain biker and travelled everywhere solo but he says women he tries to date don’t particularly care about it and he isn’t going to blow his own trumpet as though they should Maybe improv classes would be beneficial since being funny is a huge boon (even tho it’s subjective) But I’ve probably raised the bar unrealistically high | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:36 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Well the other way of looking at it is: If I can’t even sit down and have conversation with her over coffee or a drink for an hour or two then that tells me all I need to know upfront so we can part ways whilst a fun activity might conceal the fact we aren’t very compatible because we’re enjoying the activity, also I’ve had a few activity dates where we don’t mesh but we’re stuck doing the activity whilst over coffee you can just wrap it up quickly But maybe you’re right and the coffee / dinner … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 06:01 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Yeah I would much sooner be single than with someone who I have to seriously compromise to be with, which I think sadly puts us in the minority of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 03:32 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?That’s actually an astute point - I forget how easy the process is when there’s strong investment on their side because it seems that these situations are few and far between | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 02:47 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Yeah fair point altho being a good conversationalist is subjective too right, I know some people who would consider themselves good conversationalist but I would rather be put in a room with a starving polar bear than with them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 02:38 AM |
| 2 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?I agree ( although I think tate is a vile scumbag) but similarly a great author can make a banal story seem enthralling whilst a poor author can make an exciting story seem dull, so one’s storytelling ability and communication style is a big factor besides having the raw experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?as someone with adhd who’s easily distracted I actually find dinner dates are better because I can focus my attention on her and our conversations not on things passing me by and all the smells and sights and sounds and running into somebody I know. On a dinner date if the conversation dwindles I can talk about the food or the venue, or I can resort to some questions I have up my sleeve about travel, music, or deeper questions, or I can pull out a homemade cocktail menu I have on my phone and ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 01:56 AM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?But practically what does that mean? Sharing personal stories is one way to be less boring isn’t it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:08 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Because i don’t use lazy gen z slang and speak in half sentences? They say how you write should reflect how you think which should reflect how you speak etc so I try not to dumb it down too much when I write But to answer your question ye I am :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 02:20 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?My deep conversations with friends usually centre around hatred of religion, the many flaws in human nature and ontologically I lean in the direction of nihilism and antinatalism which I know doesn’t lend itself to particularly uplifting or flirtatious conversation but I’ll remember to ask more personal questions Sometimes I realise I don’t really care what the other persons answer is and I guess that’s a good touchstone not to bother with that particular question and ask something I’m actually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:47 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Yeah WoW she was hounding for a pounding, I sometimes forget how easy it can feel when you meet a girl who’s actually interested in you. None of that mixed signals bullshit or waiting days for her to reply, they’re often the ones leading the charge. It’s been a while since I’ve had anyone be that interested in me haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:31 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Thanks for shedding some light with examples too, I can understand why women would want this in a guy obviously but at the same time fuck its asking for quite a lot especially if being a spontaneous socialite renaissance man isn’t in your nature - maybe it’s just been my experience but most women I’ve tried dating haven’t exactly pulled their weight in this regard and I’ve been expected to do nearly all the planning, surprising, entertaining, and it gets exhausting. What if you’re more introvert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:07 PM |
| 3 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?My desire for them fades as well, same as it does with any friend or hobby that I spend too much time with - frankly I'm surprised so many couples remain together, especially those where it doesn't actually seem like they have much of an underlying friendship The problem is many partners are going to want to see you more often than that and might take things the wrong way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 09:54 AM |
| 0 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?That's all well and good but you can't deny that there's a huge portion of women who seek drama and love intense emotional fluctuations - I don't want it to be true but the proof is in the pudding and I've seen it play out before my eyes plenty of times. Yeah these aren't the types of women I want to end up with but the fact is being low reactive / cool headed and on the stoic side as opposed to say some opiniated loudmouth or melodramatic jersey shore character does get you labelled dull by man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 09:51 AM |
| 6 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?like pulling a hare out of a hat? I just front with my natural humor, ask questions to learn more about her and try to make sure we both have a good time, what more should I be doing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 06:30 AM |
| 6 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?I feel like spontaneity is definitely important but that's backfired for me in the past (not with dating per se but in other contexts) so do you have any general guidelines for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 06:08 AM |
| 1 | How do the women who are always aloof and dismissive towards men’s approaches expect to meet someone?Fair enough but in what contexts would you proactively pursue a guy? What if you saw a really attractive guy in public? Or sitting adjacent at the bar? Or just someone you meet through friends or work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | How do the women who are always aloof and dismissive towards men’s approaches expect to meet someone?Kinda strange people prefer those over real life encounters but I guess being hit on in public by pushy people you’re not attracted to isn’t much fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 10:02 PM |
| 2 | How do the women who are always aloof and dismissive towards men’s approaches expect to meet someone?Yeah that’s understandable just that those opportunities don’t pop up very often for me - I’ve tried volunteering and team sports and stuff but never met anyone who I had mutual attraction with that way so sometimes I feel like taking a chance when I see someone I find attractive in public but I realise it’s a long shot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 09:28 PM |
| 2 | How do the women who are always aloof and dismissive towards men’s approaches expect to meet someone?Well the women I know like this more often than not end up dating someone and often someone of questionable character | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Being called a "fuckboy" is the biggest compliment you can get as a manWhen it’s said of one’s appearance it usually means they just have a certain style which may be a compliment if that’s what you’re going for - when it’s said of one’s demeanour that usually means they’re considered slimy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Just observe couples offline for a while and you’ll realise the bar isn’t as high as you probably think it isI will say on dating apps it seems to be higher than it’s ever been and more than it was a few years back but it’s still entirely possible to connect with women and offline it’s not nearly as high as it is online | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Just observe couples offline for a while and you’ll realise the bar isn’t as high as you probably think it isIm not sure I understand the point, you assert that a man’s looks and dick are of foremost importance but the George Clooney example doesn’t seem to support that? He’s desired for his suave demeanour and celebrity mystique more than his looks, in fact he’s actually not anything particularly special to look at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Just observe couples offline for a while and you’ll realise the bar isn’t as high as you probably think it isYeah especially in formative years - I’d say even one early bit of romantic exposure helps a lot but that’s not to say people who don’t have that have missed the boat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?I meant extreme political incorrectness that goes beyond what’s reasonable Very few people would be completely politically correct and if they are they’re a boring cunt indeed because it’s almost incompatible with having a sense of humour But also right wingers seem to be just as over sensitive, if you criticise their sky daddy or their supreme leader Hitler orangutan scumbag or their misinterpretation of the amendments their five braincells fly into a rage | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Maybe not under your rock | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Not moderating your language or content for the setting or context say swearing like a sailor around a ladies parents or bringing up sexual topics when it’s likely to make people uncomfortable because you don’t really give a shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Nothing and that’s why I wants sure why the other guy was bringing sex into it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?I’m saying I’m not morally opposed to promiscuity or nymphomania so I’m not sure why they implied that I was against sexuality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?I exhibit all these things too on occasion but I’m referring to guys who push it to the extreme all the time as a fixture or their personality, I’m sure you’ve met guys like that. Btw what’s your advice for using vulgarity when flirting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:47 AM |
| 0 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Well your last comment is what leads me to believe that many women would take a fucking didkhead over a guy they consider boring, not just for a one done fuck but for a relationship, and it seems like guys who aren’t really boring can be interpreted that way when they’re compared to the assholes So being even a bit boring is just about the worst thing a guy can be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Maybe I shouldn’t refer to it as masculinity but some sociopathic take on it that involves extreme aggression, misogyny, vulgarity etc if you’ve never encountered that at a bar or even in school you must have been living blind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:40 AM |
| 2 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Nothing wrong with sex or nymphomania and promiscuity but surely you can take a step back and think ‘this person clearly doesn’t really respect me, they don’t treat their friend very well either, they got really aggressive toward the bartender, made an awful comment about women… they can go fuck themselves’ Guys also put up with disrespectful bullshit from women - I’ve used a female friend tinder account and brutally insulted guys but they were still keen to meet up. Wish people didn’t put up wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?One revelation as I’ve gotten older is many of the people I know outwardly have it together are broken inside in major ways, some people are just great at masking it Some extremely productive and successful people I know have quite glaring issues beneath the surface that have compelled them to be productive but still aren’t healthy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?But why don’t I ever hear anyone admit that they’re attracted to aggression machismo etc even if only for casual sex? It creates a situation where the walk never lines up with the talk and guys are left scratching their heads because the next guy is doing everything they’re cautioned against and getting away with it or sometimes even being rewarded for it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?You may not be able to rationalise raw lust but as a member of the worlds most intelligent species you should be able to refrain from allowing it to cloud your judgement so much you pursue someone disrespectful and get dragged into their bullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 02:40 AM |
| 0 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?If I meant sexuality I would have said so. I mean aggression, swearing constantly, being reckless, making crass comments about women and gays and stuff, having no subtlety or tact etc. these guys are often more sexually forward but I thought the other behaviours would cancel it out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?I know a lot of women are feral beneath the facade but weirdly even the ones who I know enough to know they aren’t like that still seem to gravitate toward guys who are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?I think a lot of the latter group are struggling to meet women and get gaslit and told they must not really be nice or genuine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?You can’t argue that looks are the only thing that matter but I would argue that most women value attributes that they wouldn’t really like to admit to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 01:32 AM |
| 0 | Is vulgarity, machismo and political incorrectness a turnoff to most women?Almost every time I go to pubs, clubs, guys from high school, some guys my female friends have been with .They aren’t all guilty of all those things but a few of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/23 01:15 AM |
| – | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?well I know for a fact that tactics like going hot and cold, blatantly flirting with other women in front of them, negging, being a bit aggressive etc can work at least to make certain women more sexually interested - I’ve seen it. To me being confident is simply not being afraid to express yourself and sticking to your opinions and principles, none of the other bullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?People actually want obnoxious show offs? fuck me no wonder the world is full of them, they’re being encouraged by people like you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?What do you mean by has nice things? And do you see yourself being with him long term? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 01:57 AM |
| 0 | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?Isn’t that just being an attention seeking showpony? I thought humility was supposed to be attractive Maybe I’ve been under selling myself by avoiding the limelight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?I’d say most women arent great at assessing a guys inner character and are easily beguiled by outer confidence at least the women I know That begs the question how does one exude confidence when life isn’t going their way and they don’t have much to be confident about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 08:30 AM |
| 2 | Which asshole behaviors and traits are actually widely considered attractive?How about a fairly good looking guy who's arguably too nice and placid and potentially boring? How could he go about being more exciting without actually behaving like an asshole? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/23 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesI appreciate you trying to help (I think?) and undoubtedly my ego gets involved in my views as everyone’s does but this is one area where I believe that the evidence is strongly stacked in favour of the conclusion that many people are pretty terrible judges of character, and too idealistic or naive or self loathing to read the writing on the walls when it comes to relationships I’m not sure why pointing out the hypocrisy irrationality and nonsense in the dating world gets you automatically label… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesYou mean to say players and bad boys don’t care? They may not care about hurting someone’s feelings but clearly getting women is a cornerstone of their self esteem so on some level they do care about the outcome. I think some women are attracted to their general brash attitude though, on some subconscious level they can’t easily explain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 02:56 PM |
| 0 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesFair point. I guess it explains it, I just don’t know how people can still be so blind to the warning signs they are always present if they cared to read the writing on the walls - most abusive guys I know aren’t half as good at masking their true colours as they seem to think they are. And we’ve all read and watched horror stories. So it goes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 11:38 AM |
| 2 | Most people are too punishing over insignificant issues but too accepting of enormous glaring onesI understand being infatuated with beauty but I’ve always found it obscene that the alpha stereotypical behaviour is attractive in the 21st century when there are plenty of kind considerate guys who are also interesting and financially stable and all that. I guess social norms and morality move faster then evolutionary biology | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 10:58 AM |
| 2 | Do you prefer slim or curvy?Chubby aka not represented here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 01:50 AM |
| 3 | It’s obscene that in 2023 there’s still a pervasive stigma that people who are single king term must be lacking in social skills or something majorYeah you’re right but I think there’s a grain of truth to this stuff I think it’s somewhat revealing of the way people still think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:23 PM |
| 7 | Is the reason why single women are happier than single men because their celibacy is *mostly* a choice?Another reason could be that single women can have certain intimacy needs met more so by female friends than single guys can - and they’re more likely to have deeper sapphic desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:03 PM |
| 1 | I see a lot of manosphere podcasters just not living upto what they say.1) facet* 2) who the hell would follow a podcaster in the ‘manosphere’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 05:01 PM |
| 7 | Active dates are excellent first datesI Diametrically disagree; coffee dates are cheap, convenient, offer an easy escape route if things go south, and they are the best barometer to determine potential chemistry… If you can’t enjoy coffee together it probably definitely isn’t going to work. Au contraire with activity dates one runs the risk of misattributing their enjoyment to the other person when it was more so the context, and they can be quite uncomfortable if done on a first date with someone who is essentially a stranger as I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?Yeah I worded it poorly but I’ve just found it difficult to reignite the flame on say a date after we’ve segued onto a more serious and vulnerable topic - I can see how for some women they probably saw me as a better potential long term partner after demonstrating my emotional intelligence but with most women it seems that such a conversation changed the nature of the date after which it was more deep but less sexual and whilst I love deep conversations i have to notice that they aren’t that con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?I hear your point and it’s well made but you’re tilting at a slight strawman because I’m not referring to a guy blubbering because his girl dumped him, but expressing any vulnerability seems to backfire - even expressing indecision such as being undecided about where I want my career to head. It seems that most would prefer blind confidence, which is half the reason humanity is as fucked as it is, when you have ultra confident yet incompetent scum like trump getting elected on the back of that b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?I personally could never consider myself to be close friends with someone whom I didn’t feel I could share my troubles with - I have a few acquaintances who I don’t bother discussing such things with but when it comes to a partner there is no question that if they aren’t willing or able to handle the lows in life then there is no way it will work. I find it sad that in the 21sr century people are still so guarded around their partners | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?But why does it work? That’s what I want to know Considering how much of a turnoff emotional expression is (unless it’s passionate and positive) then why does sulking, being aggressive or annoyed or going cold beguile women into sleeping with them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?Isn’t that half the fucking point of having a partner? So you can learn and support each other? Or do most people just want regular sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?But these manchildren are often rewarded for being that way thus reinforcing histrionic behaviour - if goes beyond just being fun and entertaining, I’ve seen it in action, the way they love bomb then go cold then sulk and take the other person for a rollercoaster ride which they don’t seem to want to get off of - meanwhile condemning emotional expression in more mature ways (talking frankly about something that’s troubling one for instance) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:26 AM |
| 4 | Is there even a right way to express vulnerability and self doubt with women?But many of the best and most real conversations I’ve had revolve around self doubt and negative emotions. I’m not talking about laying all your woes on someone or wallowing in pity but just being honest if someone asks you how you feel about a situation or if something is really grinding your gears | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 04:06 AM |
| 2 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseIf there are so many more men on dating apps then assuming they’re not all cheaters that means there must be loads of single ladies trying to meet guys the old fashioned way… it sure as fuck doesn’t feel like it when I’m out, and I’m a tall handsome guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Stupid question; Why is it often times easier to get laid just after getting a lay??There has to be more to it than that though. Surely being non-needy only seals the deal when they're already very into you | /r/seduction | 20/06/23 11:04 AM |
| 3 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseIm sure most guys are horny deadbeats but you mean to say that there aren’t ever any decent men who reach out to women on social media or dating apps? Having to sift through the dross to find the gold seems like the slightly better problem to have But I will concede that being a big guy I never really worry about my personal safety (although I had a friend who was robbed and beaten when he met up with a girl from tinder) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 09:14 AM |
| 0 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseUnless you’re a show pony flaunting your wealth posing in Versace shirts and sports cars which I would never do anyway then how would anyone even know? And I realise women who are looking for more than sex often end up being lied to and hurt but it seems like the slightly better of two problems, although they have to worry about their physical safety which I sympathise with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:53 AM |
| 3 | The modern dating dynamic is extremely uneven and it only seems to be getting worseI never said they were special, at least not in my world, but I mention that to support my point because in many peoples worlds a good looking professional athlete is a high prize | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 08:45 AM |
| 0 | CMV: The art of approaching women really isn't that complicatedThen why call it an art? And yeah it ain’t the same as a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 07:27 AM |
| 2 | I honestly believe this is why the majority of us feel shy around womenWell you seem to be convinced that I’m lacking basic social skills but I’m telling you that’s not the case, I’m often described as the most witty and interesting person in the room, but courtship seems to be a different beast where some guys I know who lack basic social skills still manage to do well and vice versa, I guess they have developed a specific subset of social skills with women but I don’t think it’s fair to assume that someone who’s struggling to escalate with women is necessarily la… | /r/seduction | 11/06/23 02:32 PM |
| 2 | I honestly believe this is why the majority of us feel shy around womenIt is quite a distinct dynamic though. At least with friends and my current employment situation I can just be myself unapologetically - this doesn’t cut it with women or at least there’s a whole hidden web of bullshit you have to wade through and being yourself is like playing on hard mode I’ve got adequate social skills I just don’t want to partake in the stupid farce of conventional courtship or any comparable social dynamics (popularity contests at work and so on) | /r/seduction | 11/06/23 11:26 AM |
| 0 | I honestly believe this is why the majority of us feel shy around womenSometimes you just want to get laid or be intimate and you realise you have to play the game right to get to that do naturally you’re going to be invested in if | /r/seduction | 11/06/23 02:13 AM |
| – | Why are so many women so casually accepting of the fact they’re attracted to toxic men?I meant just because were naturally attracted to a certain type of person say bad boys doesn’t mean we shouldn’t challenge that, and nobody says you can’t but there seem to be a lot of people who accept it without challenge as if their destiny or something | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 04:22 PM |
| – | Why are so many women so casually accepting of the fact they’re attracted to toxic men?We can still refuse to be with anyone who doesn’t treat us with due respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 03:02 PM |
| – | Why are so many women so casually accepting of the fact they’re attracted to toxic men?Technically we all are but it does seem that quite a few women I meet typify that girls just wanna have fun shit even if it comes at a hefty price | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 02:55 PM |
| – | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?If you can’t look past it than no I’d say you have to find someone you’re more attracted to - I personally couldn’t be intimate with someone if I wasn’t attracted to their body but a lot of people can I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/23 02:39 AM |
| 1 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?But it shouldn’t hold the same connotations as say being a superficial person who doesn’t care for deeper level thinking or emotional connection or anything it’s just to say that I need to be really attracted to someone for a romantic relationship to work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/23 03:39 PM |
| 0 | JUST BE YOURSELF is the most brilliant and simultaneously the STUPIDEST advice on the planet, if you don't have a clue what it means!Devils avocado: Self esteem isn’t enough, you need to peacock to stand out in the crowd as most people value fake bravado (insecurity) over quiet confidence … younger women are notoriously guilty here Not all people are diamonds deep within either, some people really are just unlikable to most people and needs to thoroughly work on developing their character, sense of humour, interests, communication style etc | /r/seduction | 09/06/23 09:36 AM |
| 4 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?Yeah it can get quite nasty, I’m fortunately tall and quite attractive but I’ve got a short porky little friend and he’s been dealt some harsh blows before. Especially when you consider that without makeup or any beautifying products or work done most women are very plain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 09:19 AM |
| 1 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?You’re allowed to be upset but accept that it’s just the nature of the game - plus weight is often something that’s usually controllable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?I’m somewhat demisexual as well and a good emotional connection is necessary for intimacy but so are looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Since when did requiring physical attraction for a romantic relationship make you superficial?Good for you but personality has never sexually aroused me it’s just solidified that someone is a keeper if I’m already attracted to them. As far as I’m concerned if I’m emotionally but not physically attracted to someone that’s just a friendship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/23 02:32 AM |
| 0 | Men are more superficial about weight than womenMost guys who like chubby women keep it to themselves and may even force themselves to date someone fit from fear of being ridiculed by their friends. I'm a fit guy who likes chubby women (not curvy but chubby belly etc) and I've become more open about it lately - it turns out one of my friends is the same and I never would have guessed it. The hardest thing is convincing women that you're really into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/23 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Why some guys find it so much easier than others (it's not just looks)Does his book contradict his videos? He’s never advocated being presumptuous or socially obtuse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 03:08 AM |
| 2 | Why some guys find it so much easier than others (it's not just looks)The craziest thing to me is that so many people don’t just accept that this is the way things are but seem to agree that this is the way it should be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Why some guys find it so much easier than others (it's not just looks)I’ve watched a lot of his videos, but I’m not sure why it’s assumed that if you’re not being an outspoken aggressive guy you’re hiding in fear - what about the healthy middle ground where a guy has empathy will approach women but in moderation and he doesn’t want to make them uncomfortable? One of the reasons I hesitate sometimes is because I have more social awareness than some guys who apparently don’t care if they make other uncomfortable or don’t even realise it. Of course you have to risk c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 01:46 AM |
| 3 | Why some guys find it so much easier than others (it's not just looks)Which often comes back to bite women in the asses when the aggression becomes overbearing but then these guys typically don’t have long term healthy relationships anyway which I think should always be the goal. I also think most women worth being with long term will respond better to less typical aggressive behaviour but they’re fewer and farther between | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?It’s like walking along a razors edge over a minefield isn’t it Then you meet emotionally inept buffoons with girlfriends and… well I guess they’re the types of guys who are (for some reason) naturally appealing and didn’t need to try and think it all through | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?I’m not sure why you and so many others are under the assumption that I am being unhinged or was referring to that sort of behaviour. She could bring up depression, and I could mention that I’ve battled the blues and am currently seeing a therapist - she will praise my bravery and there will be an empathetic connection formed in that moment BUT I can practically see the fire in her eyes flicker out as she sees me less as a sexual prospect and more as a confidant - that’s what I’m getting at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?Im 6’4 and muscular, often more relatively attractive than the women I have dates with so I don’t think my looks are holding me back or at least they shouldn’t be | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?I’m not talking about trauma dumping just casually mentioning that you see a psychologist have adhd etc if the conversation moves onto that topic or they ask you yet even that hasn’t done me any favours - I can see women thinking oh cool he’s so open and unashamed about things like that but also hmm I’m not sure I actually want to be with this guy - it also makes you come across as a better friend but disqualifies you from being a lover | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:28 AM |
| 8 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?I feel like even talking about mental health struggles in an objective way can backfire though (despite the popular narrative about normalising that sort of conversation h And I feel like even being too animated can be unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 05:15 AM |
| 9 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?Yeah don’t shoot the messenger shoot the ones giving him mixed and often contradictory messages | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:59 AM |
| 4 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?Yeah I guess the most dramatic women I know ( who I would call emotionally unintelligent) tend to go for gigs who are emotionally unavailable and either have no emotion or are ultra aggressive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:54 AM |
| 39 | what's the deal with "nice guy" stereotype and why there isn't an equivalent term for women?The label gets mindlessly applied to almost any guy who complains about the state of dating or voices his struggles with it, it’s basically gaslighting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:22 AM |
| 2 | WHAT IS SOMETHING THE OPPOSITE SEX USUALLY HATES ABOUT THEIR BODIES THAT YOU ACTUALLY LOVE? Discussion ThreadBelly fat is sexy in my opinion - unfortunately most women act like it’s cancer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 04:03 AM |
| 1 | What’s so condemnable about making dating your number one priority in life?Well firstly I’m only into about 1 in 50 women all things considered I need to be both highly attracted physically and emotionally to justify even wanting to fuck them these days, but as it stands I’m looking for more than just casual sex. I have an active enough social life but it’s not putting me in touch with the women I find attractive or not often enough at least. But also do women really want a guy who treats them like an option? Surely most self respecting women don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 03:18 PM |
| 1 | What’s so condemnable about making dating your number one priority in life?Many women also feel entitled to sulk or berate a man and imply he’s homosexual etc if he doesn’t want to fuck her for a valid reason - I’ve experienced this first hand. Oh and asking for consent is a turnoff in reality. They’re just plaster saints who want to look virtuous and classy on the outside Not all women but a lot of them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 10:52 AM |
| 1 | What’s so condemnable about making dating your number one priority in life?That’s a bit of a strawman - someone can have a fantastic rich life and make dating their primary focus because they want to find someone to share it with. I didn’t date any long term because I have high standards and I didn’t feel enough compatibility with any | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 10:25 AM |
| 5 | What’s so condemnable about making dating your number one priority in life?Well Imagine admonishing someone because they’d rather just focus on walking | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 03:36 AM |
| 8 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexUnless you approached your partner and made all the moves your point refutes itself And there are many men out there who are more suited to you than your partner even if you like to believe otherwise - perhaps you never met one because they believed their efforts would be unwanted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 11:34 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think men on here have a single clue about how women interpret attention from the opposite sexIf men collectively called a moratorium on their lust and sexual pursuit for a month I guarantee many women would become even more offended than they are when they’re being sexually objectified. They can’t have their cake and eat it too, which it seems to me is exactly what so many women are seeking to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Because there is another path… some of us don’t allow lust and shallow emotions to rule and risk completely disrupting their life? And you cite an extreme hypothetical but even then no, I wouldn’t allow lust and sex to completely cloud my judgment if I could see it leading to a major fall of some sort - as a matter of fact I’ve been in a comparable situation and whilst some guys will and do say I threw away a great opportunity, I’m proud of the way I acted because sleeping with the woman would h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Romance and logic aren’t completely mutually exclusive though - to operate like a mindless child guided by its bubbly hormones and chemicals seems incredibly stupid when you’re dealing with life changing decisions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 06:45 AM |
| 2 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Well the first paragraph was addressing casual sex the rest was referring to relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Why? Ifs not like you have to stop the show and pull out some checklist, just applying enough critical thought to ensure that you’re making the right decisions and not just being guided by neuro chemicals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 11:32 PM |
| 4 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Which is exactly my point My question is why people apply so little critical thought to relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 10:23 PM |
| 7 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?And it’s not just uneducated bimbos and streetwalkers who are susceptible to blatant manipulation, some of the smartest women I know have wound up falling prey to these scumbag tactics Sometimes when I’m luckless with the ladies I almost find myself thinking fuck it they deserve what they get if they’re so naive and overlooking good men but i don’t really believe that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?How would you define masculine tho? Besides just being more assertive and decisive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Are women actually attracted to toxic men?Who can therefore get away with expressing these traits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 09:31 PM |
| 2 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingThanks for the advice, I’ll keep it in mind The only thing I’ll say is that sometimes it’s like pulling teeth trying to think of anything to talk about when you pass someone in a nondescript situation in a shopping centre, I don’t just want to ask boring questions about how their day is going but I don’t want to ask deep date questions either you know. And even though I considered myself quite a good conversationalist and I’m sure some of these women are the situation makes it all so strained bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingI mean not to terrify you any further but I lived with a guy for a month and thought he was genuine and upstanding, then he tried to kill my cousin and abducted her dog - it's essentially impossible to know someone's true intentions and some people are masters at playing the right facade. I guess you have to take the leap of faith if you wish to connect with someone but I can sympathize that for most women it's more about their safety than their ego | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingI've heard the analogy that when you come across a snake in the wild you have to assume it's venomous. But ultimately where does this leave us? It's impossible to know a man's true intentions - my cousin was almost killed by a man who she was engaged to. Ted Bundy was famously charming. The way it feels is that to be accepted at face value you have to have close mutual friends or be volunteering for the same organization or something and even then that isn't a guarantee of authenticity and virtu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 08:56 AM |
| 0 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingI’m curious though what if a man you found physically attractive and charming approached you and you had an enjoyable chat, would that still be unappreciated? My sister was complaining about the same thug and I said well what if Harry styles approached you whilst you were busy doing that thing would you still feel annoyed? She said obviously that’s different, which goes to show how it does ultimately depend on the sentiment toward the individual rather than the situation and whilst the stars nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingIssue is in my case that I seem to have a curse whereby I only ever meet women I’m physically attracted to when I’m in settings that aren’t ideal for meeting them, and I can’t say I’ve ever met anyone organically through work or class or friends who I was really attracted to, so I’ve gotten sick of just walking past and pulling out my phone to swipe on scammers and sex workers and single mums lying about having no kids etc I know I’m a good person deep down and I know how to take no for an answe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 03:34 AM |
| 7 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingI wish more women were like you - it doesn’t need to be a big fateful moment either just smiling and asking a question or making small talk would convey the message well enough. That’s basically all I do when I approach women anyway - the more I try to be smooth the worse I come off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 01:51 AM |
| 3 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingEmpirical observation that has stayed quite constant over my life from my cousin to my sister to female friends all it whom are well educated and well rounded. I know it’s not cold hard evidence of a society wide correlation but it’s not nothing either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 01:49 AM |
| 3 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingYeah they’re the termites in my analogy, but I still think too many women become too vocally scornful of men approaching - I’ve had women tell me that even nightclubs aren’t places to openly approach women because they’re just trying to have a fun night out with their friends not uncomfortable conversations with strangers and that plays on my mind. Although I realise that women have to consider their safety with every interaction and possible interaction at least far more than men do which I can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/23 01:46 AM |
| 11 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingThe many women I know dating lazy / ambitionless / abusive guys suggests otherwise I think women have been more pressure to partner up and they know their biological clock is ticking faster than men’s And what’s your definition of low value? When I think of the guys I know who approach women the most they’re not better people than the ones who never do - they’re worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your AttractivenessI guess so although It’s not just higher = worse I prefer a chubby belly on a girl and I cant stand abs, and as I found out my best friend is the same while my best female friend prefers dad bods | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingI don’t mean to infantilise women but many men myself included are regularly cautioned against approaching - the consensus among my female friends is that they don’t appreciate it and it’s always in the forefront of my mind that they might just be politely talking but wanting me to fuck off. Then there’s the fact that to stand out in most social environments one needs to do a certain level of peacocking and chest thumping and so arrogance and overconfidence ends up reigning supreme - it’s not im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 11:41 AM |
| 2 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingOn that note why the fuck are people so easily deceived and manipulated? Even educated seemingly intelligent people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:59 AM |
| 2 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingI agree but then the em(pathetic) part of me begins to consider things from their pov and how unsettled it might make them because they’re just trying to go shopping or work the bar etc and I convince myself not to in all but a few cases where they’re giving very obvious interest Also how does one be direct without coming across as too pushy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 01:58 AM |
| 2 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingYeah though It’s still possible to achieve ambitions without compromising integrity and that’s what I’ve set my sight on doing because I want to exude the values I would expect others to operate with and hopefully reinforce them in even just one person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 01:55 AM |
| 4 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingWill search for it - if you could link it that would be great though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 01:53 AM |
| 9 | Having integrity and respect is often a hindrance to datingFair points although my integrity isn’t in the hope of getting my dick ridden ( which is the ‘nice guy’ trope) but I just have a lot of empathy and don’t like the thought of making anyone uncomfortable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 12:26 AM |
| 4 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?I couldn’t not open up eventually though, it would feel so uncomfortable since I’m a real open guy and that’s something I’m pretty proud of really | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 12:09 AM |
| 12 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?How about supposed feminists I know still supporting Chris brown | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 12:07 AM |
| 3 | The endless self-improovement treadmill, and the futility of it allI get your point but to say that only Adonis is capable of attracting women these days and women are as destructive as possible is absurd, and whilst the feminism movement can get extreme, look at how powerless women were through history | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 11:43 PM |
| – | Can men here comment on these hypocrisies some men say about women?Some men are shameless hypocrites. And as far as I care I'm the only one who's allowed to be a hypocrite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:34 AM |
| – | If most women are spoiled for choice and have such high standards these days how do some guys get away with murder?Just an expression It’s funny they removed this because I thought it seems completely apt for this subreddit to discuss even if it it a bit loaded | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 03:14 AM |
| – | If most women are spoiled for choice and have such high standards these days how do some guys get away with murder?So why do they feel this way with certain guys whilst devaluing other guys who are better in reality? What separates these guys who manage to make women feel this way I wonder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 01:51 AM |
| – | If most women are spoiled for choice and have such high standards these days how do some guys get away with murder?But women aren’t the ones complaining about how high men’s standards are and how every guy has endless options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 01:48 AM |
| – | If most women are spoiled for choice and have such high standards these days how do some guys get away with murder?Interesting analogy, but how do some guys effortlessly achieve that in their eyes whilst others really struggle despite being just as attractive interesting etc if not more so ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humbleWait until AI sexbots change the game | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 12:04 AM |
| 0 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?Which is interesting because I virtually never see guys hitting on girls anymore even at parties and especially not cold approaching which makes me feel a bit slimy for trying but it all seems to go down when I turn my back I guess | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 12:01 AM |
| – | Underrated ways of meeting people?Did you even read the post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 10:28 AM |
| – | It appears that women don't want menMakes sense if you're 10 years old. Yet there you have seemingly educated well put together women overlooking the warning signs time and time again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 05:21 AM |
| 3 | From 2007-2017, the percent of young women that have casual sex declined from 31% to 22%. For young men, it declined from 38% to 24%Seems a bit unbelievable that 4 of every 10 single guys were getting laid every month in the days before dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 03:50 AM |
| 3 | So do most people apply no critical thought to dating and relationships?Not so fun when it results in physical or emotional abuse, unwanted pregnancies etc which are real outcomes when we follow our ‘heart’ (hormones) Surely a bit more foresight and critical thinking would make things better overall | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 06:03 AM |
| 4 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?women are sexual creatures as well but where are you getting these supposed facts from? Outside of some fucking ghettos or slimy college frat/sorority most women aren't willing to share a man and wouldn't identify as being in a relationship as with a man when they haven't made it exclusive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 09:10 AM |
| -1 | There is a 50/50 male to female ratio, but somehow more than half of young men are single. How does this make sense?This might account for up to about 5% but I highly doubt that like 30% of women are in some 'harem' with a fuckboi who they believe they're dating. And if by some chance that is the case then this whole thing is somehow even more of a fucking shitfest than I gave it credit for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 09:08 AM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostSomething I can't help but notice is that a lot of outward extroverted chads and stacys if you will actually have quite lacking social skills and often say things that are uncalibrated or rude, but they get away with it through sheer confidence, whereas if some mopey timid guy were to say the same thing people would mock them for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 05:32 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostFor calling it as I see it? Save your condemnation for the guys who are actually out there ruining women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 05:30 AM |
| 4 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWell that renders basically any personal opinion or conclusion worthless, even if that is the case what a boring world that would be where you can’t even comment on your experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 01:41 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostInteresting theory, I agree somewhat. What I find interesting is how many people seem to be of the belief that being melodramatic and loud and peacocking makes them interesting or at the very least not boring - the fact is when this sort of behaviour is so commonplace and it’s not bolstered by unique hobbies, interests, views, idiosyncrasies and the like then these types bore the shit out of me - take your average reality tv contestant who’s always shouting and crying and embroiled in drama… beh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 01:37 AM |
| 2 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI’ve seen it displayed much more often from guys who would consider themselves to be alpha types | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 12:01 AM |
| 5 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWould you prefer I gave your opinion? What a stupid statement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 12:00 AM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI’m surprised it took so long for someone to raise that point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:45 PM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostBut I’d say few men strike the right balance here so if you had to chose between someone who’s a bit vulgar and conceited or someone who’s a bit soft spoken and meek who would you choose? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:42 PM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostThat’s not my assessment, it’s the most common view expressed by women I know in regards to online dating at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:41 PM |
| 6 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostIt’s me observing a contradiction between the way women I know complain that most guys they meet are losers and genuine nice guys I know who seem to struggle more than the assholes I know with not only sex but dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:40 PM |
| 7 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostIt feels a bit arrogant to agree but I agree, the longer I live and the more I experience the more vindicated I feel in saying that most people are fucking idiots | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:33 PM |
| 12 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI mean I’m the one making a distinction between being respectful and spineless, others seem to be of that belief the they’re indivisible and that’s why being respectful doesn’t work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:42 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostDepends how you define masculinity. If your definition is that of being aggressive, tenacious and hyper sexual then yeah count me out that’s not my nature - if your definition is being self-assured, level headed, independent minded, self-reliant, unafraid of challenging popular opinions etc then I’d say I am. For a casual fuck and duck arrangement it makes sense that women would be draw to a man who exudes sexual passion and virility (also helps them abdicate guilt) but the thing I struggle to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:34 AM |
| 3 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostYeah fair point, but what do you think is the right level to flirtation? I don’t pass up an opportunity to make a sexual inyourendo but I don’t try to crowbar one into every fucking sentence like a lot of guys apparently do. I feel that some women become so conditioned to this they presume you’re not that interested if you don’t try to flirt like crazy, or fuck them on the first date ( seriously I’ve had a few really modest women tell me they thought I wasn’t interested because I didn’t try to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:18 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostYet you can’t actually point out exactly what’s misogynistic and rather just dismiss it all as some bitter tirade Saying many women seem to be attracted to asshole behaviours isn’t misogyny, I don’t think they’re inferior because of this and I think the opprobrium ultimately lies with the man for stopping to such lows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:14 AM |
| 6 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI don’t ( besides a bit of experimenting with the way I messaged on dating apps) but many guys will do what it takes to get laid, hell a lot of world leaders will risk everything to get their dicks wet so I can’t see this changing on a broader scale any time soon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:55 AM |
| 9 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostRefer to my last sentence since you clearly didn’t bother to read it, but the sad truth is that for whatever reason it works more than it doesn’t and therefore guys become programmed to behaving that way - many people will be as shit as they’re allowed to get away with being and it reinforces itself like a perpetual shit motion machine | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:52 AM |
| 17 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostYeah I’m not sure why being respectful is consider spineless and boring to so many people, to me it’s a matter of having empathy and putting their comfort ahead of your sexual desire, and if this comes across as predictable and boring that speaks to the way society has become conditioned | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:37 AM |
| 9 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostSo where on earth do I meet the women who leave the apps because bars and clubs aren’t my thing and whenever I try volunteering or classes there’s very rarely any single women who I’m mutually attracted to and it feels a bit slimy to hit on them in that setting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:24 AM |
| 48 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostBut the boundaries have shifted especially in dating apps and bars and clubs where women are being swamped with men, you basically have to puff your chest up and pound it to get any attention, then be loud and brash and direct and any subtlety is lost in the fray - plus it seems that most women simply respond better to insults (even quite brutal ones) than to politeness. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard my sister, cousin, or female friends say “I shoudnt have gotten with that lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:21 AM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?The latter but maybe they assume it’s the former, in any case I think whilst it’s a great quality in a long term partner, it doesn’t do shit to get you in the door | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:13 AM |
| 4 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI like vulgarity too when it’s fits the bill and I should stress that I’ve never been a doormat or an asskisser to anybody, I’ve even cut loose women who I thought weren’t respecting by time or who seemed stupid or bigoted etc but I got better mileage when I experimented with being a prick calling women out saying things like “jeez I’ve met pot plants that were funner to talk to than you” and it seems to trigger some defensive reaction where suddenly they’re vying for my approval - I don’t do it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:11 AM |
| 23 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostI would agree but many of the guys I know who do well with ladies aren’t charming and witty, they’re crude and vulgar, every second word is fuck this and that, they’re melodramatic and unbalanced and impulsive, not traits I thought would come across as desirable but so it goes But also as someone who considers themselves to be quite witty and intelligent, I can honestly say that it feels wasted on many women, sometimes coming from that angle even backfires, at least at social settings where it s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:02 AM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostThats not an insult just an observation of what most women find sexy - and I think it’s valid to express frustration with how quite a large portion of women would rather get into bed with a brash egotistical prick than a guy who they deem to be a bit too polite and meek. I know there’s evolutionary biological and social reasons behind it but in practice it reinforces the wrong behaviours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 09:55 AM |
| 14 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWhy do you and everyone else here equate respectful guys with being spineless pushovers? You can stand up for yourself and not tolerate any bullshit whilst still being polite and putting their comfort first and foremost, yet in most peoples minds there’s either the asshole or the boring cowardly loser who’s even more pathetic than the asshole. My frustration is how being a regular respectful guy doesn’t seem to get the results that being quite an asshole does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 09:51 AM |
| 11 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostMaybe not but there's still some enormous contradictions and almost every woman I've ever talked with regarding dating apps say they've been inundates with disrespectful messages, yet I've garnered more positive responses when I've experimented with being a brash asshole, even with women who seem wholesome and it makes my head spin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 06:58 AM |
| 4 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the most1) I should have contextualized on dating apps - check most threads and you'll see such generalizations being made often enough that I took the liberty of generalizing myself 2) And I never said it does, but are those not widely desired qualities that should help one to connect? 3) In the west then. Unless my entire conception of courtship and relationships is upside down. 4) I'm just calling a spade a spade - it's quite indisputable that those qualities are sexually desirable among many women. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 06:37 AM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?Of course, but is that really the hidden motive of 100% of guys who appear to be caring and courteous? I bloody well hope it's not anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 10:17 AM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?How about a genuinely nice person? Apparently in some people's minds they don't even exist and are merely trying to slither into women's pants. But I can also appreciate that a genuinely nice guy might be a bit boring compared to a dramatic asshole which could be a dealbreaker depending on your personality type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 10:15 AM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?Understandable, but can you help me understand the phenomenon whereby half my female friends including my own sister are dating guys who treat them like fuckmeat/toddlers and even go so far as to make excuses for their behavior? What I read on this subreddit is always so far removed from the reality of many people's situations that I'm exposed to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:32 PM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?Why do you insist on conflating care and courtesy with groveling for sex though? I know this is a slimebag tactic used by some guys but it seems that one can't even describe themselves as a genuinely caring and considerate person without being struck with insinuations that they must be trying to weasel their way into women's pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:30 PM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?out of curiosity: gun to your head - would you prefer a pushover nice guy or an upfront asshole? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:27 PM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?FYI https://www.ctvnews.ca/zodiac-signs-are-off-by-a-month-expert-says-1.596266 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:26 PM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?I appreciate the honest response, but I'm sure you can appreciate how precarious it is for a guy to figure out where the line is with any given woman and then attempt to walk it without coming across as too needy or too distant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:24 PM |
| 1 | At what point does being caring and courteous become a turnoff to the average woman?Yeah, it's heinous how you're considered a nice guy whenever you suggest that your caring nature is working against you, as though they're trying to protect their egos by convincing themselves that any nice guys are actually assholes deep down as well so at least upfront assholes are honest about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 02:21 PM |
| 1 | I believe that women have it easier than men in many waysI've read several essays and articles written by transgender people who have experienced life as both men and a women, and I find their perspectives on sexism very interesting. Are you able to recommend any? That does sound like an interesting perspective, bearing in mind that their transgenderism probably skews their experience quite substantially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/23 09:12 AM |
| 3 | Old school tip: The Brad Pitt Rule1) I work hard to get the first date because before that she doesn't have much to judge you on - if she's not interested after that then I cut ties 2) Sometimes valid excuses come up, I've had to cancel dates because of sickness or injury, so if they make an effort to reschedule I'll take their word for it and assume they're interested | /r/seduction | 19/04/23 01:58 PM |
| 1 | We don’t talk enough about the “Settle Down” woman enoughI think a lot of guys just run this checklist for marriage/LTR Am I sexually attracted to her? Is she low enough maintenance and ok to spend time with? Is she likely to cheat on me? Does she have low enough body count? Things like aligning ambitions, views, family aspirations etc are probably subsidiary to these in many cases | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 06:57 AM |
| 8 | Old School Tip: The hand test & determining the perfect time to kiss.I find holding hands to be more intimate than kissing tbh. It seems like something that usually happens more at a latter stage of a relationship. | /r/seduction | 16/04/23 10:07 AM |
| 25 | If men started to respect themselves more, we would have a much easier timeEasier said than done in this current climate tho - unless you're really a handsome bastard or have serious money/status then being aloof doesn't seem to get you anywhere anymore. A lot of guys are horny, sexually pent up and believe their self-worth is tied to their body count, so they'll jump through flaming fucking hoops for women...and to be honest it's not just the simps... look at the world leaders who risk everything to fuck their intern. | /r/seduction | 15/04/23 10:52 AM |
| 26 | If men started to respect themselves more, we would have a much easier timeCould you imagine what would happen if all men collectively agreed to sexually ignore women for a month? Either there would be a huge surge in lesbianism as we realize we have made a fatal mistake, or they would actually start to pull their weight and the playing field would level out. | /r/seduction | 15/04/23 10:50 AM |
| 1 | Figure Out What Kind Of Person You Are And Then Look For Women In Places That Find Your Type Attractive.yeah 'niche' crowds can be more insufferable than boring mainstream crowds. I can't help but feel that a lot of the cool, interesting women are chilling at home and don't go out to many events at all. | /r/seduction | 13/04/23 10:53 AM |
| 5 | Figure Out What Kind Of Person You Are And Then Look For Women In Places That Find Your Type Attractive.I went to a metal show on the weekend. About 100 guys, maybe 8 girls. All but two had had their boyfriends there. One of the two was an ogre and the other swooned over one of the band members as soon as he came off stage. | /r/seduction | 13/04/23 10:52 AM |
| 3 | Figure Out What Kind Of Person You Are And Then Look For Women In Places That Find Your Type Attractive.So where the fuck are the good places to meet women? It feels like the walls are closing in. Every so often I delete dating apps, then I realize meeting offline is hardly any easier especially if your friends dont go out much and can't help you meet anyone | /r/seduction | 13/04/23 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Once you sleep with the girl, and especially sleep with her a few times, she will most likely want a relationship. That is when the power dynamics shift, and you can be the leader and dictate the terms of the relationship, if you so choose and if you know how, for the rest of the time you spend with her. Yeah I've noticed this, and I assume it's how so many scumbags have women wrapped around their pinkies.. but reaching this point seems harder than ever before, like I was doing better with datin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?How can you prove to a woman that you have options though besides just walking away? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 05:42 AM |
| 4 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?And here comes modern man and says "you got it all wrong, men are the bitches, women are the bosses. Honey, put your strap-on please". I'm sure men like this exist but I'm not one of them and I'm not sure how the fuck you reached this conclusion based on my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?And I find exotic women to be generally sexier too.. I just don't like the subtext of exploitation that comes with the territory, I want to know they like me for me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 01:06 PM |
| 2 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Not for me personally, but I know guys who have stayed with legitimately crazy women because they find them sexy. And some guys will risk their career and their reputation for casual sex. And I think this mentality is largely what caused things to be so distorted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:18 AM |
| 3 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Yeah that's something I often forget because I like to tell myself that I already vetted them on dating apps or offline, but you're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Imagine if men collectively decided to ignore women for a few weeks. Either there would be a huge surge in lesbianism or more women would start putting more effort into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 07:15 AM |
| 4 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?But I'm curious what amount of effort is reasonable for a man to expect to invest (bearing in mind that men are still expected to initiate sexually in most cases) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 05:55 AM |
| 11 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesI would argue most women don't either because it's the peacocking displays of outward manliness that arouse most attention. The REAL independent guys are usually quieter and their strength is discovered not announced... this doesn't work so well in a fiercely competitive landscape though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesYeah women love men who don't use their hands (even to drive a car) and don't care about getting skin carcinomas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 05:43 PM |
| -3 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesAnd yet I've met ten thousand exceptions to this apparent rule | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 05:41 PM |
| 1 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesMost of the greatest orators and leaders are very expressive with their hands. Any woman who get the 'ick' with that can go 'ick' herself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 05:39 PM |
| 23 | 90% of what gives women ""the ick" is just men failing to live up to masculine gender stereotypesFunnily most 'traditionally masculine' guys I know definitely don't set a room at ease, if anything they're more likely to cause offense and discomfort than autists | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | Another AF/BB example. Do women really think that the “BF” material is winning?I'd sooner check myself into a psychiatric facility than date a brainless bimbo like her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/23 04:54 PM |
| 1 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneThanks :) I need to get the fuck off reddit for a while though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:48 AM |
| 1 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneAvg guy is fat broke lazy uneducated unmotivated unambitious. Women, who aren't better, want better than that. They must all be dwelling in basements then because this does not represent the average person I meet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:46 AM |
| 3 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneYou're implying I'm a kissass whilst you're the one who seems hellbent on getting laid? This is a discussion around why things have gotten as bad as they have to the point where both men and women are complaining that it's difficult to connect, not about the secret formula to getting laid If you read to the end you'd see I didn't let women off the hook. Some are damaged, some are fucking morons who charge at red flags like bulls and it's hard to feel any sympathy when they get stabbed in the bac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:39 AM |
| 1 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneThe men you've met who disrespects you or who you hear horror stories about is doing these things. They leave more of a mark. The average man isn't perfect, but he isn't guilty of the scummy behavior I listed. I have many friends who never go out and don't use dating apps, we catch up and play board games and stuff on weekends. As far as you know these guys don't even exist because you never encounter them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:17 AM |
| 2 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneI'm not sure the percentage exactly but it's a minority - these men just have more exposure to and leave a bigger mark on women. I knew a shameless womanizer who would go out 3-4 nights a week and try all sorts of scummy tactics to get women, whilst also using all the dating apps. I also have friends who spend weekends playing board games or camping etc who have never really hit on a woman in public. As far as women know these guys dont' even exist, and they just have repeated run ins with the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:15 AM |
| 3 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneI realize the dating pool is infested with bottom feeders but I can't bring myself to believe that the bar is really that low. Online dating seems to attract certain types but I'm sick of seeing posts where women say 'guys the bar is low just have basic hygiene, don't sleep on a couch and don't be a misogynist' if that were the case neither myself nor friends would have troubles with dating - clearly there are a few hidden bars which don't get mentioned, and it seems like occasionally when these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 07:05 AM |
| 4 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneHow do I detach myself when I'm constantly being reminded of it whenever I attempt to connect with women? Also, I feel that it's a moral responsibility to not make the situation worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 06:50 AM |
| 21 | Most of the female attention you get happens when you are talking to people.Never really understood why. Of course everyone likes a boogie but I've never understood why it's such a charm, it often doesn't say much more about a guy than how drunk he is especially if it's just two step shit. Then again courtship in clubs and bars is basically all just a big display of peacocking where any wit and subtly goes out the window. I personally hate everything about night game (including the fact that it leaves you tired the next day) but it's just so much easier to meet women th… | /r/seduction | 02/04/23 05:12 PM |
| 8 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneI simply behave the way I expect others to behave; by not doing any of the degenerate shit I outlined in the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 02:12 PM |
| 5 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneIs it not the case? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 01:54 PM |
| 2 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneTolkien? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 01:53 PM |
| 2 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneYeah I know it seems callous but if we could round up about 10% of humanities worst into rockets and fire them at the sun I think things would improve unrecognizably for the rest of us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 01:51 PM |
| 9 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneWell romance is always going to be a gamble I guess - feelings can fade abruptly at any point too. Some will say it's better to have loved and lost than never loved at all and I guess it's up to you to decide whether you think it's worth the risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Actually I've always appealed to women in their late 20's / 30's who are a bit more mature, better conversation and not so contingent on stupid 'vibes' , plus admittedly they're more desperate because they can feel their clock ticking faster than mine, so I find myself doing better now than when I was younger going for young women who can barely even hold a conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze - I love my analytical side, and most the time with friends I'm scathing people and politics and religion and I find it very enjoyable, so the thought of surrendering that to be someone who just feels and vibes doesn't sit well at all with me. But I guess I'll try to be aware of this and dial it down when I'm trying to flirt with people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I think the issue is when we subconsciously communicate that we're playing a game of chess so we don't come across as natural - there are few things less attractive than that. I've had about 40+ dates and I always figured the more experienced I racked up the more natural it would feel but I can't say that's proven to be true at all. Sometimes I enjoy the game but usually I just find it exhausting. Oh well, I guess that's what we have to do if we want to romantically connect with people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I think you're onto something. My thoughts are so outlandish that if I just spoke my mind I would almost definitely lose my job and end up getting a drink thrown in my face. Filtering everything makes socializing a lot less fun though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:18 AM |
| 2 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Interesting point - I work with a guy who's like that too. He's used to fronting bands and entertaining, so he's really charismatic around people but when you're having a one to one with him you can tell he feels the heat au contraire I'm the complete inverse - much better one to one than in group settings...it's obviously just tough to actually get one on one when meeting people out though. I'm glad you've embraced your natural persona too. We just need to play our hand the best way that we can | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Or the ability to empathize without truly caring for the other parties wellbeing - I'd say the best sociopaths are able to do this, since lacking empathy completely just makes you obtuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?It's an interesting duality. It seems that the biggest players out there aren't the he-men but have a feminine side they can tap into for greater empathy, even if their aim is just to fuck and duck. Virility + Anima. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?The brutal truth. I don't like to add my voice to the carping choir who cry incessantly that looks are everything and women breed assholes, but sometimes the proof is in the pudding and it's undeniable. That's not to say your brother is an asshole, but his worst traits seem to be the most rewarded right. And the fact he has never really had to develop a compelling personality or sense of humor to attract women will never not be infuriating to anyone who has and still struggles. I'm 6'5 and muscu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?The even uglier answer seems to be that the sexual selection process and society at large tends to reward the 'wrong' traits e.g. braggadocio, guile, egotism while overlooking better ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I'm only unintentionally funny. No I would say I'm funnier than the average guy (whatever that means) but I have a polarizing form of humor - it's dry, scathing and irreverent, not cute and flirty. Sometimes it's interpreted as being too negative and killing the vibe. How does your friend flirt? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:47 AM |
| 2 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?You sound like the female version of me haha. I also find a deep engaging conversation to be more intimate than sex to be honest - you can pay a hooker for the latter but the former requires a rare kind of chemistry. Unfortunately deep conversation is considered to be the opposite of sexy in many people's minds but I would love to go from discussing ancient greek philosophy to fucking without bothering with all the stupid flirty nonsense. But I can't expect to meet many people who see eye to eye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Suppose you're right. I just find it interesting how flirting - which I see as a subcategory of social skills - can allude me even though I have quite well developed social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?If naturals were outcome independent they wouldn't put so much time and effort into chasing tail. These guys have a laisses-faire facade but believe me when they go through a dry patch their entire persona changes and they get desperate and agitated. For most players getting women is the cornerstone of their identity so failure to do so causes them to crumble. At least this is what I've observed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?What would you say are your most practical pieces of advice? I've read enough theory for one lifetime, but I could do with more practical wisdom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?It's also frustrating because it's perhaps the single most important skill for a young man to have and yet it's something that many struggle to acquire even after years of learning and practice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Yeah I guess it's just mysterious because I have developed my other social skills well but flirting is still my Achilles heel, and unfortunately that's the one demographic I'm most interested in appealing toward. I'll try to adapt my approach to dating like you suggested by making it more based around activities or things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?Fair take. Do you think the best way to improve is through practice or more structured learning? Obviously real experience is key but I think it's also possible to run in the wrong direction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDap-K6GmL0 the gold standard of oration | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I don't disagree with that sentiment but to clarify I was just interested in example of flirtations that have worked for people in their particular context so I can get a better idea of whether I'm generally trying to be too dirty or not forward enough when I'm flirting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?I'm 6'5 but that just makes me feel like more of a sad case for struggling with it lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Why does romance and sexuality come naturally to some people and not others?17 and it wasn't a particularly pleasant one (It was a house party that turned into effectively an orgy so I actually tried to fuck 3 women in a park at like 2am while drunk but couldn't get hard most likely a combination of whiskey dick and nerves plus these women were a bit older) I agree that early experiences can be very formative though, one lovely girlfriend might have changed everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 07:49 AM |
| – | If coming on too strong is so unattractive why does love bombing seem to work so often?I would hope that most people could still see it for what it is though Reinforces the theory that creepiness is all relative - imagine the sort of disrespectful stalkerish shit Harry styles could get away with for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 08:35 AM |
| 2 | Why does it feel like I'm committing a federal offence by striking up a conversation with a stranger in public?I was going to ask for an example of a warm approach but I think the booty warrior bot has supplied me with one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 07:07 AM |
| 0 | Why does it feel like I'm committing a federal offence by striking up a conversation with a stranger in public?It's a similar deal when I say almost anything to a woman in public though, even just asking the time when my phone died at a festival where you would expect people to be more sociable. Sometimes I can tell they're attracted to me but the situation itself has them on high alert. I guess that's jut how it is these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 07:02 AM |
| 1 | The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked.This is a symptom not the sickness itself (atomization, hyperreality, decline of social skills, less need for networking offline) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 05:45 AM |
| 1 | The primary cause of singleness among men is simple yet overlooked.Surely most women would still welcome a man they find attractive approaching them in public after the initial wave of schizoid panic has washed away? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 05:42 AM |
| 2 | "Standards" are largely irrelevant, because the market tells you how desirable you areYour standards are whatever you want them to be. Whether or not you'll find anyone who meets your standards and is interesting in dating you is another story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 05:36 AM |
| – | Most 'alpha' males are among the most insecure men in societyI used to be an amateur bodybuilder. At one point I was 110kg with low body fat (I'm 6'5 though) and guess what - that was the most insecure phase of my life. I was constantly comparing my body to other guys and felt inferior in many ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 05:31 AM |
| 1 | If coming on too strong is so unattractive why does love bombing seem to work so often?Without seeming needy? Why do you think people love bomb? They're insecure and terrified of losing someone and want to lock them down asap or they want sex or they want their money there is always a strong need | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 04:17 AM |
| 4 | If coming on too strong is so unattractive why does love bombing seem to work so often?I don't think these guys are masterful manipulators so much as they are just volatile and they naturally push and pull people away depending on their mood, at least my experience with some player types. And the reason push and pull doesn't seem to work so well for guys who consciously implement it is because it's not in their nature to be unpredictable like that so it comes across as more contrived. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:28 AM |
| 3 | If coming on too strong is so unattractive why does love bombing seem to work so often?So you wait until you're already in a relationship first? And what exactly does love bombing entail for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 07:18 AM |
| 1 | What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one anotherIf a lady is in the mood for sex and the guy isn't she's within her right to subtly or not subtly berate him and make him feel emasculated etc but if a guy is in the mood when the lady isn't then he has to leave it be lest he be considered a pest I've bought this up with quite a few guys and they all agree that it's a pretty accurate with their experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 12:36 PM |
| 2 | What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one anotherI find the emotional attachment to be an indispensable part of sex which is why I (a guy) don't get much out of one night stands and sometimes even feel emptier afterwards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 12:32 PM |
| 0 | What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one anotherI remember a few jock types at a party talking about how they don't bother with foreplay and they kick her out after they came in her. Yeah congrats, she probably had the worst sex of her life. If their ego is so fragile you would think that pleasuring her would be a higher priority for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 12:30 PM |
| 1 | What are some double standards you’ve noticed with men and women’s standards/preferences for one anotherI often wonder what the fuck those boring couples talk about. Reality tv? What they see around them? Nothing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...Issue is my main friend group has fallen apart recently with several key people moving away and most of my friends don't go out much and we just hang out one on one so there aren't a lot of opportunities in my social circle at the moment. So besides social circle where would you look to meet people? But also this is interesting advice because it runs sort of contrary to the conventional advice of being upfront about your interest in someone but I can see how it could work if they're people you'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I usually only find 2 or 3 women in any given club to be sexy enough to warrant pursuing so that's not going to be an issue - but there are lots of very tall good (better) looking guys than me where I live and honestly where I'm from (Australia) the women are known for having a bit of a superiority complex so it's still not a walk in the park, especially when they're in their packs and I'm solo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I've never been attracted to toned/muscular women. Tried to fuck one, my dick was flaccid the whole time. On the other hand I find slightly chubby women with big tits to be by fat the sexiest. Why aren't people allowed to have preferences? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:26 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I guess there are singles events but they're few and far between here - I'm goin to the next one just to see what it's like but I'll be surprised if it's not dominated by guys and has a weird atmosphere. Bars and clubs seem to be this weird space where it's like most people are out to have fun and meet others yet they can be really cliquey and standoffish toward others who try to mingle with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...But that's the thing - when I'm not consciously trying to flirt and come across as sexy I end up going 100% platonic and oversharing personal things and ruining any chances I might have had, because flirting doesn't come naturally to me. I've had a few women who have gotten to know me at school or work express interest without me really doing any flirting but on a night out coming across as a genuine good guy probably isn't going to cut it. But you're right I could always just have a conversatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I'm often told that I'm attractive and I get matches online but I can count the number of times I've been approached on one hand - so it's still up to me to initiate and do most the heavy lifting and yeah I guess I'm autistic because it doesn't come naturally to me and never has. But where does anyone learn this shit? Just through trial and error? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I should clarify I'm a tall fit (looking) guy who's mainly into chubbier women and you would be surprised how many of these women assume that I'm only going for them because I think they'll be easier or that there must be some reason why I'm not hitting on their fit friend, so I guess I wanted to make it clear from the get go that I find them sexy. But I don't like the idea of walking up and calling someone beautiful either so I'll run with something else. It's pretty daunting doing this solo th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...My issue with doing yoga classes or volunteering etc then connecting and asking women out is that it might come across as a bit calculated and rushed like one minute we're talking after my 2nd class next minute I'm asking her out for a drink - that must've been my plan all along sort of thing. I know it happens all the time but it still doesn't really sit right with me. But life is short and if I wait too long to ask her out any chemistry between us will probably die out or she will get snapped … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...I mean I've read models, the game and watched a fair amount of PUA content... I just can't bring myself to really implement it. I know push and pull works (with many women), I know using disqualifiers can help it seem that you're not a pushover and setting nonreal time constraints to make you appear busier than you are and so on I know some women even find the game thrilling but it just feels wrong to consciously use that shit when I'm standing face to face with a woman because it isn't me and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Try to meet women organically isn't working for me and I need some advice...Work with a bunch of middle aged men. I've honesty thought about getting a side job that would allow me to meet more people because I think with the way I operate I'm best when I'm getting to know people naturally where they can (hopefully) discover that I'm an interesting guy worth getting to know rather than trying to peacock at a bar. I've met a few through community volunteering but something like a tour guide or instructor role might help me meet people. I even had a date with a girl who I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:50 AM |
| 2 | Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding.Sam Harris | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Do you see men's very low standards for sex as a good or bad thing?There's nothing alpha about having a high body count if that's the result of desperation and low standards. It takes more fortitude and integrity to turn down sex and manage your animal impulses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 06:43 AM |
| 3 | If she’s into you, it’s painfully obvious. If it’s ambiguous, you’re an option at best whether she’ll admit it or notNot always. There was a girl who was luke-warm toward me, then one evening we got drinks with some friends and I was in a very witty and intellectual mood, so I was throwing out jokes and interesting discussion, and I could see by the end of the night she was besotted with me. So the seeds must have been planted already but the emotional attraction is what sealed the deal Unfortunately I wasn't into her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:51 AM |
| 2 | If she’s into you, it’s painfully obvious. If it’s ambiguous, you’re an option at best whether she’ll admit it or notSo what's the takeaway? Be fickle and mindfuck them? What if that's not in your nature? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:48 AM |
| -3 | If she’s into you, it’s painfully obvious. If it’s ambiguous, you’re an option at best whether she’ll admit it or notWhy would you want a woman who only thinks about your face and dick? Seems like you've got an unbalanced sex slave at that point ... maybe it's my due to the fact that I need my personal time and space in relationships but that sounds smothering to me and not a stable foundation for a long term relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsAny advice on how to actually internalize that mindset though? I'm physically attracted to about 1 in 30 women, and emotionally attracted to about 1 in 30 as well - then factor in that many aren't single and aren't available for a relationship ... the women I pursue therefore are few and far between, so when it doesn't work out it's quite a hammer blow because it's not a matter of just scooting over to the next lady - I've had a few dates go south and it was like half a year before I met someone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsReminds me why I need to stay off dating apps... I spent way too much time chasing ghosts and handing over my hard earned money to those avaricious pricks... I'd probably have better chances cold approaching women on the street than I would on apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 09:57 AM |
| 2 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsSome of the guys I was thinking of as I wrote this are outgoing and extroverted but also notably dimwitted and dull, whereas I'm often complimented as being interesting but I get exhausted by social situations very quickly and often isolate myself, but I guess many of these average guys end up meeting people through sheer exposure to opportunities and possibly lower standards. I do feel a bit autistic in some ways though (i've got ADHD and there seems to be some nexus between them)... for instan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 06:18 AM |
| 0 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsRelationships are not the McDonalds drive through. I very much doubt you have a queue of potential friend to get to know in a first-come-first-served order. It was more of a figure of speech, but people do certainly have rough hierarchies of potential dating prospects in their minds, and it does seem like having some mutual connection bumps people up on this hierarchy to a disproportionate level, in my opinion Someone in your social circle is someone you didn’t have to go alone to meet, or put i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 04:16 AM |
| 5 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsYeah I've noticed that. I'm constantly blown away by how having any form of mutual connection often results in a golden ticket to the front of the line. Like how having a dog seems to act as some assurance of integrity and ethics. But that's the world we live in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 03:53 AM |
| 0 | Dating seems more punishing than ever for guys in particular, and yet you constantly meet very 'average' guys in relationshipsGood point. One which I can understand on some level but which has always seemed a bit absurd to me given how many scumbag guys and toxic bitch women have passed through my extended friend group over the years... women in particular seem to act as if having a tenuous connection via 3 degrees of mutual friend separation allows you to jump the queue ahead of guys who seem better in every conceivable way...what because they feel safer this way? I've seen it blow up in their faces when the relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 03:51 AM |
| 5 | Do women typically become more desperate and insecure than men when they're single?I'm reading between the lines - they put themselves out there with more intensity than guy friends when they've become single which seems to defy the stereotype. And I brought this up at work today with a colleague and she admitted or vented that they feel disproportionate amount of pressure to be in a relationship and that women tend to feel uglier when they're sex starved. So now I'm opening up the discussion to the rest of the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:32 AM |
| 8 | How is it physically possible that there are twice as many single men as women?There is no way the top 20% of men are rotating 40% of women such that they identify as being in a relationship with them. And 80% of guys aren't like vultures competing for scraps. Unless I've grown up in a milieu that's much more respectable and intelligent than whichever desolate shithole these figures were wrought from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/23 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who have trouble finding a woman just have a small or nonexistent social circle CMMI'm only into about 1 in 50 women, and although I have a big enouhg social circle there have never been any mutual friends who I'm into so I'm evidence against this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?I take it this is sarcasm but in case it's not almost everything you listed is a manifestation of arrogance / disrespectfulness - why would I feel so entitled as to skip a line and walk into a vip section? I don't actually think of myself as better than everyone else in line, though I'm sure there are some absolute losers in it, and I've always managed to defuse fights when I'm out even though I am 6'5 and have done years of kickboxing, it takes a lot to make me resort to violence. I've even let… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?I just need to find places to meet those girls who prefer more laidback or (at risk of sounding pretentious) intellectual guys, because bars and clubs definitely ain't it, and work isn't an option right now, but I don't really have the time to go and join a bunch of hobby clubs either. So then my options are online dating or going and loitering around bookstores or vinyl cafes and places in hope of striking a conversation with a kindred spirit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?So what's your advice for being more 'fun' in social settings? I'd consider myself wittier and more interesting than the average guy (this isn't me being self flattering, but based on feedback I've gotten over the years) so I usually do well on dates, I just can't muster the energy to be the life of the party when I'm out. Meanwhile I've got a friend who's generally quieter when we're just hanging out but somehow he comes alive in social settings, I wouldn't say I envy him but I wish I were a bi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:45 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever shut down a man BECAUSE he talks normal with you, barring other external factors?I've tried being creative and engaging and honestly I barely bother anymore because it was often just a waste of energy. 95% of women I met on dating apps had the conversation skills of a dead fish so it was a one way current of energy, so I would be dragging it along trying to be fun and engaging, then they'd ghost anyway. You can only take so much of that before you throw in the towel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:36 PM |
| 15 | As a man who’s dated quite a bit, I’ve found more women tend to be socially maladjusted than more men.Which means there are enough guys pitiful enough to fuck her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:31 PM |
| 3 | As a man who’s dated quite a bit, I’ve found more women tend to be socially maladjusted than more men.Was she on a pokequest trying to catch all 151 STDs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever shut down a man BECAUSE he talks normal with you, barring other external factors?Thing is the PUA types tend not just to stop at pick up lines...everything they say is sexually inflected in some way so it's like talking to a horny chatbot...but apparently it works enough for them so what do I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:29 PM |
| 3 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?But how do you apply this practically? I thought most women would receive enough attention that they needn't chase a guy who seems aloof unless he's extremely attractive and they're in a daring mood I'm actually tall and fairly good looking, and I've had nights out with friends where meeting women didn't cross my mind and sure enough I didn't meet any, so I'm not sure how this strategy seems to work for other people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:20 PM |
| 4 | Inner confidence is quiet, so how do you convey it in social settings?That's a fair distinction I guess. Maybe it's more reflective of their level of intro/extroversion than confidence, but extroversion isn't exactly easy to feign either. So onto the second question, would you say there are certain personality types who just shouldn't bother with bars and clubs because they will be out of their element, competing against guys who are in their element? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Is raw confidence only an aphrodisiac if there's already a fair level of attraction?But how do you exude genuine confidence? The most self assured guys I know are quite quiet and could easily be mistaken as being diffident, simply because they don't feel the need to impress or peacock in loud social settings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Is raw confidence only an aphrodisiac if there's already a fair level of attraction?So how do you convey true confidence in typical loud and busy social settings like clubs and bars? It seems that you have to run with the wolves and be loud and brash as well to even get noticed let alone perceived as confident. And nice bukowski quote | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/23 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Help me understand this enormous contradictionSome have been together for a long time so obviously they provide something that's invisible to me or anyone who's capable of critical thought | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/23 09:53 AM |
| 3 | How did the famous Meghan Trainor end up in a happy marriage? The red pill said she would be alone now.It would explain why Mrs 'all about the bass' has lost a third of her bodyweight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsI'm not trying to indict the entire human race but it's still a valid point of frustration. In a less extreme case several women I'm friends with - educated ones - still listen to Chris Brown and said they would go see him if he toured here despite admitting that he's not a good person. I bet they'd be fawning if they got a chance to meet and greet too. 50 shades of grey was the highest selling book of the 2010s which features an eroticized psychopath who's essentially the antithesis of the cari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsI certainly don't agree that any woman is better than no woman. I'm very picky with who I give my time and energy too, and I've pulled the plug on many friendships and cut ties with family members - I suggest you do the same or you're effectively predooming a relationship to fail | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsIf your interpretation of this post was that I just resent all women that essentially adds more credence to my point (whether or not you're a woman) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 02:16 PM |
| 2 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsThat's an enormous false equivalence. Yes in this case I'm also guilty of making sweeping a generalization which reduces a large group to its lowest denominators but the difference is that women are generally applauded and supported for it, whilst guys typically get told not just to shut the fuck up but told that they're contributing to the problem. That was the essence of my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 01:56 PM |
| 8 | Apparently genuine, well meaning guys don't even exist in some peoples worldviewsAnd I think that's a valid thing to complain about, peoples idiotic infatuation with status and raw confidence is the reason why so many degenerates ascend to and hold positions of power. Also, being a decent man isn't a handicap per se but it can have you considered boring by people who become accustomed to hothead assholes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 06:25 AM |
| 1 | How can I get better at making conversation funny and interesting ?Yeah it does feel like that sometimes eh I'm not sure if it's because most women just ain't interested or because they're shit conversationalists | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 02:59 PM |
| 2 | How can I get better at making conversation funny and interesting ?If I'm not thinking about what to say then they finish speaking and I'm just left staring at them like a cow that's wandered onto a train track... the right thing doesn't just magically come to me as it apparently does with most other people | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 09:01 AM |
| 1 | How can I get better at making conversation funny and interesting ?Yeah I work with a guy like that, he's so witty and effortlessly charming it's infuriating... he's had the same partner his whole life so he hasn't capitalized on it in that sense but even though he's in worse shape than me and in his 40s he hypnotizes women when he talks and makes them laugh whenever he wants. Just today these two swedish girls walked by as we were on our break, I made some conversation which got a chuckle then he walks in and has them laughing hysterically. I'm 6'5 quite artic… | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:59 AM |
| 2 | How can I get better at making conversation funny and interesting ?I think the last one is an important point...sometimes, in fact often, I need to remind myself that it's not me, it's them - they either aren't interested or they're terrible conversationalists because they've probably never really had to put much effort into it before especially if they're an attractive woman. | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:49 AM |
| 3 | How can I get better at making conversation funny and interesting ?I guess try to comment about whatever they say and inject your own view before moving onto another question unless you're clarifying something they said | /r/seduction | 14/10/22 08:47 AM |
| 3 | I'm no longer introverted (It clicked in me today..)I'm happy for you but what the hell is dabbing them up? And what do you mean seeing how long they hold your hand for? | /r/seduction | 01/10/22 02:57 AM |
| 7 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...No way am I getting girls I'm very attracted to out on a date every week I'm 6'5 and good looking but I probably only swipe right on about 5-10 girls a week because most are either unattractive or have evident issues which I want no part of I'm having some more luck meeting people in person these days but it's still not easy | /r/seduction | 29/08/22 01:03 PM |
| 2 | I slept with 56 girls in a year and this is what I learnt...This is somewhat like an albatross telling a penguin to flap its wings harder so it can fly. To get to a point where you're constantly consistently going all the way with very attractive women you have to be extraordinarily charming / good looking. You can work on skills that will help get you there but it's not a small thing for many guys it's having to re-learn basically the way they communicate, tell stories, conduct themselves physically etc | /r/seduction | 29/08/22 12:58 PM |
| 2 | So you've just successfully opened a cute lady you saw at the mall...now what?Well that's sort of why I posted this - besides sex, what are some fun conversation topics? | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 08:11 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoI mean physically I'm only sexually aroused by a small amount of women with certain physique and features so It's hard to have an abundance mindset | /r/seduction | 17/08/22 08:09 AM |
| 1 | What are some more subtle indications that you're good to escalate?how did you phrase it btw? did you just ask straight up? | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 10:30 AM |
| 2 | So you've just successfully opened a cute lady you saw at the mall...now what?I like that advice but I mean specifically after introducing yourself, what would you talk about? My mind goes completely blank As I said I don't want to talk about her day or about where she grew up or about sex or anything so I'm genuinely not sure what to talk about | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 10:01 AM |
| 1 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoMy main issue with game in general is finding where to draw the line between being sexual and wholesome - I seem to either be too far to the latter and end up boring them a bit, then I'll try to over compensate and get a bit too sexual out of nowhere and make them a bit uncomfortable, plus it doesn't help that every girl is different and with online dating I haven't even met them to figure out their vibe. The reason I simp with women on OLD is because I'm a lot better in person than online, and … | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:57 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoWomen only chase me after our first date since I'm better in person than online...the problem is getting them on a bloody date. That's why I'll chase them to get there because at that stage they're not that invested in me, I'm just another guy on a dating app | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:54 AM |
| 1 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoSo maybe I'm coming across as too intense or eager but as I say when I take the cold and distant approach that doesn't work for me either. Maybe I need to find a way to meet more women face to face rather than through OLD But I'm not a bar/clubs type of guy and haven't had the best experiences with day game | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:52 AM |
| 3 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoMy aim was to get them on a date because a) It's pretty hard for a girl to get really invested in a guy she hasn't even met b) I think I'm better in person than online c) Some women are a lot more fun and expressive in person than over text d) I'm not attracted to very many women so when I find one who I am into I really try to connect with her But yeah I mean in some cases it is futile | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:45 AM |
| 1 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoYeah I almost never get these questions, I'm lucky to get any questions at all really. Really don't know what it is. My OLD profile is pretty appealing and I get a lot of matches, I don't come across like a simp who tries to get sexual with them immediately, I don't come across like a pushover, I ask them a few fun questions like what their deathrow meal would be and if they had to do a season on a reality show which one would it be etc then get their number or social if tehy don't want to give … | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:42 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoIt's probably better but I don't really know where - bars and clubs ain't my scene and last few times I've cold approached women who were out and about they haven't really appreciated it | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoYou're grossed out because a man is complaining that women never reciprocate the energy he puts into connecting with them? You either misinterpreted the post or you have a profound persecution complex/misandrist doctrine that you oughta work on | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 09:35 AM |
| 2 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoI wouldn't either but it just happens that women who are actually interested in me and put in effort are virtually never ones who I'm physically attracted. I've tried having dates with women in this category and it's ultimately just a waste of time because there's not enough attraction then I have to come up with an excuse to cut it off | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 04:54 AM |
| 3 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoBecause sometimes you have to meet up with someone for them to become interested in you, before which you're just a face and words on a screen. Some people are a lot more fun in person too. But yeah, in most cases I shouldn't bother. | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 04:47 AM |
| 1 | If I cut off every woman who didn't reciprocate my effort I would only have about one date every year or twoI mean it doesn't always take much time out of my life or anything, usually just a week or two later I'll send a follow up, then maybe 3 months later I'll send another one Or if they're just a bit boring but I'm really attracted to them I'll try to get them on a date that week to see if they're different in person or not I almost never meet women I'm actually attracted to who reciprocate my effort unfortunately | /r/seduction | 16/08/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?Yeah but I genuinely do not know what to do because I've never pulled a woman like that. So I meet her at the bar and we're sitting down sipping a cocktail...do I just start asking her about her craziest sex stories whilst squeezing her ass or something? She obviously doesn't really want a conversation, but the above is probably too vulgar, so should I try painstakingly to talk to her about things like alcohol, travel, pop culture bullshit long enough that I can suggest heading back to my place … | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?Good points but I've got a few questions for you 1) What sort of relationship and sex questions do you ask? Do you ask them at a restaurant/bar or somewhere more private? 2) Why only 1.5 hours on the first date? Most of mine go for 3 hours + unless I'm really not enjoying it 3) Where do you draw a line between being sexual and being sleazy ? | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?I've read most of the literature and whilst there was some value for the most part it actually tarnished courtship in my eyes, it made the whole thing feel like a big ridiculous charade. Having to use false disqualifiers about how I only like her as a friend or some stupid contrivance about how she has to come back to my place so I can teach her guitar so there's plausible deniability even though she knows damn well where the fuck things are going and so forth isn't fun for me, it just seems lam… | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?Actually come to think of it I've never fucked a girl who I didn't really enjoy the company of, but that's a good point. If talking to her is like trying to piss out a pebble then I can only imagine how shit the communication will be in the bedroom. Part of me still thinks I'll regret not going for it since she's so sexy and what's the worst that could happen? but I know deep down there's probably no point. | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?"I can already tell she’s not going to enjoy it." good point, I think we're just on completely different wavelengths. She probably wants a dude who's pure emotional energy and libido whilst I want a woman with substance who I can have engaging conversation with and then cap it off with sex. And there are women out there who want that too. It's just a shame this one is so damn attractive. | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?Oh I am, but that doesn't mean I can't say fuck it every now and then and have one and done sex with someone who I find physically sexy | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 01:47 PM |
| 1 | What are some more subtle indications that you're good to escalate?Care to elaborate then? I'm not going to try to escalate with a women who isn't giving me a green light. Some guys do, and sometimes it works for them, and sometimes they get charged with sexual harassment, but that's not my style. I've heard female friends talking about how uncomfortable they were on a date or in public and I don't want to be that guy because I didn't read the signs and blazed in there trying to sweet talk her into the sack. Some women make it pretty obvious but others seem to … | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?What do you mean by less social friction? She just seems like the type of airheaded bimbo I've met 50 times before, perhaps I'm mistaken, but with some people what you see is really what you get. | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 12:15 PM |
| 2 | Very attractive but has no personality (or brain cells), how can I line up a ONS?I don't usually operate like this but this particular woman is extremely attractive and I figured life is short and pretty shit for the most part so might as well try to have a night with her - there's no way I could date someone who's on another wavelength like she is though. | /r/seduction | 12/08/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do girls do this?Lot of potential reasons Sometimes in truth they feel inadequate or undeserving of love | /r/seduction | 11/08/22 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone else noticed this?says the nonce making a sweeping generalization of 2 billion people | /r/seduction | 03/08/22 12:58 PM |
| 1 | How to break the porn cycle?It's partly a dopamine rush and partly a way to feel sexual pleasure when not much else gives it to me because the chances of sleeping with a woman I find really sexy is slim considering how narrow my scope has become - I'll see maybe 2 or 3 women who I find sexy per week, and half the time they're holding a guys hand. I've always had really specific preferences for what I find sexy but porn has made it a lot worse, so I need to try and do something constructive every time I feel the urge to wat… | /r/seduction | 02/08/22 04:20 PM |
| 1 | How to break the porn cycle?That's the issue, I only find very few women sexy and it's not often that I come across these women let alone am able to sleep with them. But I realize you're right, that's probably the best way to get over it. I'll have to put more effort into meeting people | /r/seduction | 02/08/22 04:16 PM |
| 0 | Cold approaching has lead to the most embarrassing moment of my lifeWould you advise me admitting to the next girl I'm with that i'm on antidepressants and my dick isn't working properly to temper her expectations or should I just go with it and see what happens? | /r/seduction | 31/07/22 07:39 AM |
| 12 | If a girl invites you out to the bar with her friends, is it wise to do that or wait for a better opportunity.I highly doubt a girl would come out if we had a date planned for sunday and then I messaged her to say hey I'm out with the lads tonight you should come along. Fuck the dynamic of trying to connect with someone in a loud environment with her friends all judging you, and potentially getting jealous. I wouldn't go unless I could bring a friend or two to talk to their friends | /r/seduction | 30/07/22 06:26 AM |
| 1 | What does it mean when a girl says she likes men with an attitude?She's mentally damaged and thinks she deserves to be abused | /r/seduction | 28/07/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Just be yourself and talk to women like they're human beings and you will be drowning in attention!Yeah I actually consider myself to have fairly strong social skills in that I can make friends quite easily, but my personality definitely isn't sexy, and as you've said putting myself in a clubbing or raucous environment is like putting a fish out of water and asking it to climb a tree. I do focus on other ways of meeting people these days, including OLD, but they're often just as frustrating, and with classes and volunteer work and things most women I've met haven't even been single. I know a … | /r/seduction | 26/07/22 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?Thanks for all that, nice analogy too, I assumed you must've sold cars before you mentioned it to know the tricks of the trade so well. The question I have is, if they do get uncomfortable and you dial back, what's your strategy then? Often that throws me off my game and I don't really try again for the rest of the date hoping to build more rapport so that next time she's more likely to go ahead, but there isn't always a next time. There's a chance she realises she's just not interested, but I t… | /r/seduction | 24/07/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?Damn I'm most impressed how quickly you had sex upon meeting up again. I would've thought that some degree of social stigma / decorum would have prevented her form wanting to get down before you've made her a drink so she could later console herself that she wasn't slutty just going around for sex and you two were bonding when it just happened blah blah but it sounds like she didn't need to waste time trying to play a mind game with herself. Do you have any advice for making bold moves like that… | /r/seduction | 23/07/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?Yeah I suppose it's something that comes with practice, but I guess one also have to familiarise themselves with some pop culture and references and stuff so they have things to draw upon. Also I've heard improv classes can help but I've never bothered with them. I know a guy doesn't have to be a master of wit to get a girl - most players I know are actually fairly witless- but it definitely helps and it suits the style I'm going for. It also depends on the girl having a sense of humour too thou… | /r/seduction | 23/07/22 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?You can express interest in a way that doesn't sound like an autistic character from super bad walking over to a girl and telling her she has nice boobs or something, surely that's a signal of social ineptitude as well? I'm looking for more examples of how people do that. | /r/seduction | 23/07/22 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?The thing is usually convince myself that it's not worth the risk - especially at work, which I guess is fair enough, but then my mind also tells me it's a bit too risky on a date because there's a good chance it will backfire (since I have a very dark and florid imagination so the things on my mind usually aren't appropriate). That's probably why I'm more charming when I'm trying not to be or don't really care about the outcome of something. But I can't not care about the outcome of a date with… | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Can anybody give me a flirty line or compliment that doesn't sound like something from a coming-of-age comedy film?Yeah but I'd still like to hear a few examples Or even any scenes in tv shows or movies where the lines are actually smooth and aren't just funny in the context of a sitcom or comedy movie I struggle to balance funny/sexual/wholesome when I flirt | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 04:42 AM |
| 74 | What hobbies have the most women in their 20/early 30s?Congratulations you've found the 3 women on the planet who are into d&d, bow hunting and bouldering | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 04:39 AM |
| 70 | What hobbies have the most women in their 20/early 30s?I mean you can't really force yourself to develop a genuine interest in something. You could also argue that socialising is their hobby whereas guys prefer more structured/mechanical things Also more women read | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 04:38 AM |
| 46 | What hobbies have the most women in their 20/early 30s?Every guy happens to come late and set up at the back of the class But seriously, are women there on high alert for any guys who try to get friendly with them after or are they ok with it? | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubI suppose its contingent on there being enough expressions of attraction before you try something like touching her waist or face I can imagine the guys who complain that they got kicked out of club for trying to escalate were doing it to women who they hadn't even established any mutual attraction with or who had already made it obvious that they weren't attracted, or got very unlucky with one of those women who goes to a club and flirts then turns around and freaks out when guys try to play ba… | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubYeah I understand that but It also seems like something which will only add richness if you highly value that sort of thing And it seems like a shallow form of respect - more like cloaked jealousy. I'd rather be respected for my integrity, intellect, reliability etc But I don't have a very high sex drive and I'm looking for a longer term partner so this lifestyle probably isn't my element anyway | /r/seduction | 22/07/22 03:23 AM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyIf I just spat out things that made me laugh she would probably think I'm having a psychotic episode, my sense of humor is dark and bizarre and it does not translate well to the upbeat bullshit needed to seduce women, so of course I have to try and consider what she would find funny. | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 11:32 AM |
| 4 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubI have a small cocktail bar set up at home because I enjoy mixing cocktails, so I could always say 'I know a place that does even better cocktails on the house...it looks a lot like my apartment' or something | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 11:29 AM |
| 5 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubSo small sexualization of conversation was telling a girl exactly how you want to fuck her? I know that this is what most women in clubs want to hear, but I feel like I never get to the stage where it's appropriate to be that overtly sexual. Also, you sound quite smooth and into health and fitness... what do all these boneheads do who have no charm and don't do yoga or anything besides lifting weights? Do they just find a girl and start bluntly telling her about how badly they want to fuck her o… | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 09:12 AM |
| 3 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubCan I ask why you need to go through the whole charade about just going back to a guys house to watch a movie or see the overgrown goldfish he's been telling you about or whatever excuse he's pulled out of his ass? You know exactly where things are going, so how does it allow you to feel less skanky? | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 09:08 AM |
| 0 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubIn other words you have to crack the fucking da vinci code to get a half drunk girl home from a club? I can see why some guys enjoy the game, but I don't feel like the juice is worth the squeeze. | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 09:06 AM |
| 11 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubI'd rather go home with my hand than buy a stranger a drink that's equal to half an hour of my pay Any girl worth taking home won't need you to feed her drinks either | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 09:03 AM |
| 3 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubWell it's pretty fucking difficult when you don't know the girl at all, and you're trying to be charming and funny without being creepy or offensive. It's no coincidence you're at your wittiest when you're gaming with a friend or doing something that completely relaxes you | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 09:00 AM |
| 2 | Need help with flirting in a nightclubWhat are you supposed to say when they can't even hear you? Even if they can hear you, what sort of jokes are you supposed to make to a group of girls standing at the bar? Hey guys, margarita huh? alright! ...well, cya later | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 08:58 AM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyThanks for posting this, I'll try to answer it as a self reflective thing, feel free to reply with any thoughts but no pressure Is he clean? I'll always shower before a date and make sure I smell good, with clean clothes and no birdshit in my hair or anything Is he polite? I think so, at least I try to be Is he generous? I offer to pay the meal - if she wants extra cocktails etc they're on her though, since I've been exploited this way before Is he a gentleman to me? (Not pushy, overly sexual/pi… | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 08:22 AM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyYeah that could be it...but it's just so...not me. I'm not the crazy energetic upbeat type of guy, and I actually thought too much of that was unattractive as well. I'll try being a bit sillier I guess and see how that plays out for me | /r/seduction | 20/07/22 07:54 AM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyCan you elaborate a bit on what you mean by 'amusing yourself'? | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 01:16 PM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyI don't think so because I'm very transparent and don't put on a facade , on a date I'll usually end up having a deep conversation at some point, last date I ended up telling her about her how my dog was put down accidentally and we talked about our philosophy on life and death, if anything I get too deep Unless you mean something else by vulnerability? | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | I seem to bore women and I can't fucking figure out whyWhat are some reasons why a girl would lose interest in a guy who's pretty good looking, funny, interesting and charming? We will have a date, laughing and kiss at the end, then often never hear from her again I'm usually pretty good at sensing when the vibe is off but I'm getting blindsided when it seems like we're really meshing well and then nothing. | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 01:12 PM |
| 8 | Would redditors benefit from a 15 minute conversation with an actual woman?I just struggle to accept social dynamics; they seem so pathetic and arbitrary - the popular guy says something stupid and the minions laugh, the loser says something funny and nobody reacts, girls falling for the very guys they claim they don't like, people considered nerds for being passionate about anything besides sport and working out, wasting time with pleasantries and nonsense small talk and treating you as odd for trying to introduce an actual topic of discussion, people acting so fake t… | /r/seduction | 19/07/22 03:15 AM |
| 1 | What's the best way for a white guy to approach 'exotic' women?Good to know but I wouldn't feel to good about leveraging the fact that they've been beaten into submission by an overly masculine society either, like I want a girl who's my equal even if I do most the leading around sex and will defend her etc if necessary. Those relationships where the guy acts like the body guard and the woman acts like the trophy make me want to heave | /r/seduction | 17/07/22 07:02 AM |
| 1 | What's the best way for a white guy to approach 'exotic' women?considering my whole game is verbal I think I can scratch latinas off the list. I mean I'm sure there are some who appreciate subtlety and humor but I'm just not willing to go in like a dog in heat even if that's what they want. I mean I could probably do that if I were drunk or pilled out of my mind but then my dick won't even work. | /r/seduction | 17/07/22 07:00 AM |
| 1 | What's the best way for a white guy to approach 'exotic' women? Even though I look like this https://imgur.com/Rdobyht I'm definitely not Mr masculinity ...in fact I find that sort of cringy. I'm masculine in that I'm self assured in my values and opinions and I'll debate anyone on anything, go against the group and the trends, and I've done a few years of kickboxing so I could probably beat the shit out of someone if I had to (or you know defend a lady friend), but I'm not the loud mouth overconfident type of guy that I think most latinas might be into an… | /r/seduction | 17/07/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | How direct and explicit do women actually want guys to be??On that note, what separates a guy whos lousy vs good in bed? How long he can last? How well he communicates? How attentive and selfless he is? I know some big players who claim they skip foreplay and just fuck her in positions they like... I'll bet most women they fuck just go along with it but are faking most of their pleasure because most women struggle to orgasm with their partners let alone a stranger who's not bothering to learn about their preferences and not bothering with foreplay. | /r/seduction | 15/06/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Every example pick up line/compliment I've read here is so cringeworthyI agree with the advice to be yourself from a broader perspective but if someone aim is to maximize their body count (a foolish endeavor in my opinion) then being themselves probably isn't the best thing to do if it isn't working | /r/seduction | 15/06/22 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Every example pick up line/compliment I've read here is so cringeworthyYeah good point context is key, but I can't imagine saying some of these lines in any context, even though I know I could probably get away with it. I realize how much of an asshat I sound here but I feel like I have to dumb myself down to connect with most women these days, since my friend group is comprised of guys smarter than I am with sharp banter who enjoy discussing abstract/political/philosophical stuff and since I'm working from home they're the main people I interact with, then suddenl… | /r/seduction | 14/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 1 | I can't seem get girls if I don't plan my moves... but I don' really enjoy myself when I doI hear this advice a bit but can you give an example of one? Would that be like if she mentions you going to her place to see somethign she's talking about you misinterpret it by saying 'woah at least buy me dinner first' or something? | /r/seduction | 13/06/22 12:52 PM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Don't worry, I'm sure you are in some people's eyes | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?the guy in question has the wit of a wilted potplant so it's doubtful, but I suppose cringeworthy moron dating coaches finesse their way into women's pants too | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 12:08 PM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?I definitely don't come across as needy, I've turned down sex more than I've pursued it and ended dates abruptly if they came across as disrespectful, a lot of guys here would want to slap me if they knew how many opportunities I haven't bothered with. But why does the non-needy vibe work well for some people whilst with others it just means they'll have no attention at all? | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 12:05 PM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Pretty face with a rugged body and perhaps some facial hair to masculinize it is probably most desirable. Some women will prefer a man to be as manly as possible but look at Justin beiber, Harry Styles, Taylor lautner, 90s dicaprio, brad pitt, they're pretty boy. | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 11:56 AM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Wonder if androgyny also appeals to their natural saphic desire. | /r/seduction | 11/06/22 11:54 AM |
| 1 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Yeah it's not a bad thing, I mean I'd rather they got the girl than some high flying big business fuckwit with veneers and pec implants, but it still confuses me | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:58 AM |
| 0 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Well I've seen him interact with people and I definitely consider myself funnier and a better conversationalist - he doesn't even tend to ask people questions or crack any jokes, but somehow he has people working for his attention. | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:56 AM |
| 2 | We all know a guy who seems to drown in poon juice despite having almost nothing going for him, so what's the deal?Actually you might be onto something because she seems to call the shots in their relationship, maybe it wouldn't have worked with a guy who was more assertive | /r/seduction | 09/06/22 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Are most hot women boring as fuck or have I just been unlucky?Ah Interesting It depends what you mean by great sex I guess - do you mean they were really passionate and vigorous or they were thoughtful and made sure your desires were met or were really open with communication and didn't keep you guessing or you shared kinks or they were smooth and sexy with the way they moved? | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 03:16 PM |
| 7 | Are most hot women boring as fuck or have I just been unlucky?That's true, the only thing more irritating than a dumb attractive person is a smart attractive person. | /r/seduction | 27/05/22 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Why does most of the usual advice backfire when I use it?I mean I have a solid self esteem - I think I'm naturally funnier than average and even done a few stand up sets that went well, I've invested huge amount of time into refining my intellect, learning as much as I can about history and philosophy and science and can debate anybody on almost anything without sounding like a moron, I've got a few musical projects going and consider myself creative and I have no problem making friends - by contrast the bigger players I know in person are actually ra… | /r/seduction | 25/05/22 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Why does most of the usual advice backfire when I use it?How would you implement bits of game into your character without abandoning the things that make you enjoyable to be around (the humor and friendliness) and without feeling like you're putting on an act? Because I wouldn't feel accomplished if I got a girl by saying and doing the things that hunterpua told me to say and do, I'd rather know that they were attracted to me deep down, so I only want to modify small aspects of myself at a time so the change feels gradual and sustainable. | /r/seduction | 25/05/22 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Why does most of the usual advice backfire when I use it?They've never worked for me and most women won't admit that they'd fall for that sort of thing but that's the advice I see from most 'players' obviously when done with social awareness and tact | /r/seduction | 25/05/22 02:46 PM |
| 3 | Having a female best friend is undoubtedly one of the reasons I have success with other girls.Wouldn't this cause you to convey more platonic energy though? | /r/seduction | 18/05/22 05:12 AM |
| 1 | How can I start to see pick up as being fun not just stressful?I can be quite good company but it's an effort when you constantly considering all the things I mentioned in the back of your mind, and it feels like the juice isn't always worth the squeeze Also whilst I agree with the advice I would wager that 99% of this subreddit are focused entirely on themselves and their pleasure or bolstering their egos, and if they appear to focus on the girls feelings it's because they ultimately get something out of it. | /r/seduction | 11/05/22 09:41 AM |
| 5 | How are serious are you when interacting with women?*Arm pit farts* [timer goes off] "Madame, might I indulge yourself in a socratic dialogue apposing nominalism and platonism from a post modern weltanschauung?" | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | How are serious are you when interacting with women?What would you do if the conversation wandered into the territory of religion, politics, feminism etc? Would you speak up to prove that you've done some thinking and are confident in your views or would you try to steer it away to something sexier? | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:09 PM |
| 4 | How are serious are you when interacting with women?The last girl who 'fell' for me did so after I went on an extended monologue about finding meaning in life, I saw the glint in her eyes as I was talking and afterwards she almost had a newfound reverence for me - she was a smart girl who was interested in philosophy though, I imagine it doesn't work so well with a drunken broad smoking outside a bar. | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:07 PM |
| 0 | How are serious are you when interacting with women?What do those conversations sound like? Just constantly volley of giggling and nonsense? I find that humor hits best when it's surrounded by some seriousness, not just just pure silliness - for instance if the serious guy in your class makes a ridiculous remark its 10 times funnier than if the clown does. Maybe that's just me | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | How are serious are you when interacting with women?But what what if the conversation turns more serious and she challenges you on one of your opinions or beliefs, would you try to make it lighthearted again because you're afraid of killing the mood or would you be willing to defend it? | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 04:01 PM |
| 17 | What 99% of you actually need to experienceWhat 100% of you need is to disenthrall your self-worth and ego from your success with women. | /r/seduction | 28/04/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Does being charming and witty count for that much?I assume it boils down to you willingness to go for what you want and stand up for yourself? | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Does being charming and witty count for that much?The mixed messages we receive are insane; you're damned if you and damned if you don't it seems. I know supposed feminists who still listen to Chris Brown and get drawn toward meatheads fuckwits lol | /r/seduction | 22/04/22 12:26 PM |
| 1 | I think "game" has hurt me more than it has ever helped me. It's just a bunch of needy behaviors/tricks to attempt to make women like you. It seems like its constantly reinforcing the idea that you're not good enough.Real courtship literature worth reading reinforces the notion of self-development and downplays the need for validation from women and the arms race to sleep wit has many women as possible However, some of those pick up exploits do objectively work on most women, so it would be foolish to completely denounce them if your aim is to sleep with someone. I draw a line with things like the extreme hot and cold approach or compliance tests that seem unnecessary, but a lot of the advice does help. | /r/seduction | 19/04/22 03:49 AM |
| 6 | Why do so many guys simp?Little do they know that most women are still evolutionarily engineered to be attracted toward guys with arrogant, aggressive, criminal tendencies because of some atavistic mate selection process that is completely obsolete in modern society. | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 03:04 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many guys simp?Interestingly I've noticed the most desirable men (I suppose you could say high value in a sexual context) often use social media pretty sparsely. Maybe 2 or 3 Instagram posts per year and a story every month or so. I think this at least gives the impression that they're too busy to use it much, even if that's not the case. | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 03:01 AM |
| 5 | Why do so many guys simp?I can understand it but like... most of us would like to sit on our ass shoveling shit into our mouths and playing video games or watching porn or something effortless and enjoyable but we force ourselves to get up and workout and do shit and ultimately feel better for it Can't these guys see that they're digging themselves deeper into a hole by bombarding women with attention like this? The crazy part is that some of these guys are actually attractive and seem to have decent credentials, yet th… | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Most effective flirting tip for all (has never failed me!)and what if they have clean clothes? | /r/seduction | 12/04/22 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone find it really difficult to compliment flirt or tease when it doesn't feel 100% natural?Yeah, I think that's also a fair argument not to date anyone who you're sort of indifferent toward or unattracted to just to get the rust off the gears or whatever...in my experience it usually feels like a waste of time. It really is hard to get into the mood especially if you've just had a stressful day of talking with engineers at work then you need to transform into a charming gentleman. Ah well, we just do what we can | /r/seduction | 11/04/22 08:55 AM |
| 1 | I want to get over female validation, but this whole “build a better life” shit is hard as fuck.Your not a hamster on a wheel, so only do what's sustainable. Life's to be enjoyed, and setting all these conditions for enjoyment seems counterproductive Self compassion involves being firm on yourself but kind enough as well If you want to spend a weekend playing video games, why not? | /r/seduction | 10/04/22 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Do many women secretly want a man who's a bit jealous, controlling and domineering?Good analogy. I suppose that's why the push and pull technique works, and why really volatile guys often get girls without trying. I saw a discussion about how girls are evolved to be attracted to dark triad traits even though men with these traits (criminals, libertines etc) are disasters for long term relationships, but that women usually come to realise this as they acquire more wisdom through experience. It's just a shame that so many of the girls I find attractive seem to go for questionabl… | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:45 AM |
| 2 | My friends dating success made me envious of him to the point that we aren’t friends anymoreHe's not a friend he's a pathetic narcissist and you shouldn't waste another second of thought on him | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Got rejected by more than 5 girls in a clubs, what am I doing wrongHonestly Aussie girls are some of the most conceited women on the planet. I know because I've lived in a few different countries, they often have this natural snarky attitude that really fucking bugs me. Even my female friends are like that, then once you get to know them they open up, but approaching them would be tough. | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Got rejected by more than 5 girls in a clubs, what am I doing wrongSo if you think clubs and bars are big rancid pits of sweaty aggressive pricks and arrogant women with awful music and overpriced drinks, and don't enjoy dancing it's probably best to avoid them like the plague right. Also women at bars and clubs don't give a fuck if you've read Dostoevsky and have a doctorate in philosophy...it's just a big meat market | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Got rejected by more than 5 girls in a clubs, what am I doing wrongSo say you've endeared yourself with a girl at a bar but her friends are nearby, slightly jealous, watching you two. What should you do in that situation? Try to take her home or get her number and try to set up a date another day? | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:17 AM |
| 4 | Got rejected by more than 5 girls in a clubs, what am I doing wrongI'm not sure if the numbers game mentality is that constructive. The mindset breeds a sort of desperation and relegates your status to some chump who will keep approaching the next person like an eager puppy dog until someone throws it a treat. High value would be to pick a target and try your best to make it work, if that doesn't work, reassess, maybe approach someone else, maybe go hang with your buddy, maybe go home and finish reading a book. | /r/seduction | 02/04/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Give me some fun question to help with building connectionFun questions can make things feel slightly less like she's being interview for the unenviable role of my partner How do you make things passionate? | /r/seduction | 31/03/22 06:22 AM |
| 0 | Give me some fun question to help with building connection"No one just talks about random stuff and hope it makes them get connected." speak for yourself pal But do you really think questions aren't necessary and it should be obvious right away whether we have a connection? Maybe if the intention is to smash and dash, but if I want to get to know her I might need some questions so the conversation doesn't just stagnate on small talk? | /r/seduction | 31/03/22 06:20 AM |
| 1 | How can you revive an interaction that's turned cold and platonic?Issue is that I enjoy talking about philosophy, politics and critiquing current events and stuff, and I get pretty bored with small talk, so inevitably it's going to come out even with a girl. I think surely part of being a confident person is to be able to stand your ground in an argument though rather than acquiescing? Of course if my opinion differs from the narrative being force fed en masse, which they often do, then I might lose someone who misjudges me to be a bigot of some sort, but I gu… | /r/seduction | 28/03/22 05:44 AM |
| 5 | Sex she'll never forgetcan you orgasm from oral? my approach has been to finger the g spot + oral at the same time, but the results have been a bit mixed haha Also do you prefer a guy to reach down and finger you whilst kissing or to move down and focus on giving you an orgasm? | /r/seduction | 24/03/22 05:00 AM |
| -4 | Sex she'll never forgetSometimes being dominant can be a bit at odds with focusing on her pleasure though? | /r/seduction | 24/03/22 04:57 AM |
| 12 | Sex she'll never forgetDon't rush foreplay - start with kissing then neck and body kissing, caress her boobs, tease her lady parts without rushing to them, massage her pussy over her panties for instance, then eventually slide your hand under and get more focused Don't be afraid to ask how she likes things and what her preferences are but pay attention to the way she responds non verbally Try to give her an orgasm before you fuck her via fingering/oral - but don't put too much pressure on her since a lot of women can'… | /r/seduction | 24/03/22 04:56 AM |
| 0 | How has the rise of political correctness, toxic masculinity, fourth wave feminism etc actually impacted pick up for you?The lines become a bit blurred though when the evidence suggests many (especially younger) women are biologically attracted to men who exhibit dark triad traits which would be interpreted as toxic. I mean just to approach a woman in public you have to risk unsettling or offending her, unlikely though it may be - and when there are other guys around competing for the same woman it sometimes does call on you to be a bit intense. I agree that the average guy shouldn't feel threatened by female empo… | /r/seduction | 23/03/22 03:38 AM |
| 17 | Slept with her Twin the next nightMay as well finish the family off now. Apart from girls being more promiscuous on spring break do you have any advice for how to approach a group solo (which it sounds like you did) and convince one to leave her friends/sister and come home with you? Did you have to make up some excuse about her helping to hold the ladder whilst you changed a lightbulb or did you just say let's go mash our genitals together? | /r/seduction | 19/03/22 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Being true to yourself VS trying to stand outWell how do you define uniqueness? We're all technically unique, but it's not always manifest if we don't have rare hobbies or passions - and maybe it's inauthentic to force ourselves to be unique in those ways? | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 05:37 AM |
| 1 | My Thoughts After 15 ApproachesWhat would be an example of an indirect opener you use? And what sort of topics do you chat about with someone you've just met? I'm quite charming and witty but I still feel like a dickhead who's inconveniencing women when I walk up and start talking to them, and I'm not sure what's appropriate to talk about because I don't want to ask all these personal questions as you would on a date, but I don't just want to make small talk about nonsense the whole time either. | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 05:32 AM |
| 2 | My Thoughts After 15 ApproachesMy issue isn't my looks, it's that I don't know what the fuck to talk about after I've stopped a girl in the middle of a shopping mall. Do I ask her how her day's going? What her favorite sex position is? What her thoughts are on the geopolitical turmoil in Europe and Asia? | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 05:29 AM |
| 2 | My Thoughts After 15 ApproachesWhich settings / venues do you find that women are most happy to chat in? I always feel as though I'm interrupting them, because most people these days are either glancing at their phone or have a "don't talk to me" expression on their face | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | What the fuck do you actually talk about at a bar or club?"You look like you'd have interesting taste in music" "Nah it's pretty basic lol" "Oh in that case I regret talking to you" "hahaha" At this point I simply couldn't be fucked continuing the interaction when I feel like I'm doing all the lifting. It's dawning on me that most guys are just a lot more determined and tenacious with women than I am. | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 07:52 AM |
| 2 | What the fuck do you actually talk about at a bar or club?Yeah although cold reads are more risky in the sense that she could just say 'no' or get annoyed with your assumptions because they can also come across a bit arrogant. Also they require a lot of effort - a conversation full of cold reads is pretty painstaking for the person making them - you have to think of a question, then turn it into a statement that 's a bit funny and a bit wholesome etc which gets exhausting | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 07:48 AM |
| 2 | What the fuck do you actually talk about at a bar or club?I hate dancing and aren't a very touchy person so I guess that rules out clubs As for bars, the ones which aren't jam packed full of belligerent dickheads spilling beer on me are ok, but can you give an example of some of the topics you might talk about in a bar? I consider myself pretty witty but that doesn't seem to translate into teasing strangers in busy noisy environments without being too offensive and whilst demonstrating that I'm a decent person | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 07:45 AM |
| 1 | What the fuck do you actually talk about at a bar or club?I'm pretty sure if I walked up to a girl and said that she'd smash a glass in my face. I mean you can work up to that eventually but at first I feel like you need a few more normal topics But also girls in Vegas are probably more wild than girls in the clubs in my city | /r/seduction | 27/02/22 07:41 AM |
| 1 | The Best Dating Advice I've Ever ReceivedBut you need to build that interest. Sometime you need to put in a fair amount of effort to actually differentiate yourself from the pack and prove that you're someone worth getting to know. Especially if you're going with online dating - why would a girl be THAT into you just based on a few pictures of you and some cheesy bio? | /r/seduction | 26/02/22 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Don't be this guy (RANT)I want to believe this but I've very rarely seen 5'6" bald guys with attractive women. I think my country (Australia) actually has more brutal attraction standards - when I was in the US I would see way more 'uneven' couples where one was significantly more attractive than the other conventionally, but over here it does seem to be more of a consideration. Either way, getting off the internet and getting among life will help | /r/seduction | 22/02/22 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Social media/ technology and its part in making it harder for the average man to get interest from women.yeah fuck social media. I mean if you have a great social media that's basically a dating passport, but I hate what social media has done to society so I don't want to be part of it | /r/seduction | 19/02/22 03:12 AM |
| 3 | Social media/ technology and its part in making it harder for the average man to get interest from women.That's why I theorized that if every man on earth made a pact to ignore women completely for a few weeks, we would see the tides turn pretty quickly I really don't understand how things have becoming do unbalanced given that there's roughly similar number of men and women | /r/seduction | 19/02/22 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Social media/ technology and its part in making it harder for the average man to get interest from women.It's odd because there's slightly more women than men. Assuming that most these single guys aren't just cheating on their partners, I don't understand why it's so skewed. Does this means there's tons of single women out there who aren't using dating apps and are hoping to meet a guy the old fashioned way? | /r/seduction | 19/02/22 03:08 AM |
| 3 | Social media/ technology and its part in making it harder for the average man to get interest from women.Women are still valued more heavily on their physical appearance, but that doesn't mean aren't judged harshly - and when you consider how many more options women have and how desperate a lot of guys get, they definitely have it easier. | /r/seduction | 19/02/22 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Is game supposed to feel so exhausting?Yeah I agree, but it still feels like the road to meeting a woman like that has a thousand trapdoors - you may not get the chance to connect with them that deeply because they've already passed on you since you sent too many messages in a row or they misinterpreted one of your comments or something. | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 11:40 AM |
| 1 | What if your personality traits straight up don't align with what most women find attractive?But in saying that without putting on some sort of facade there's nothing much I can do to change how I come across. The only thing I can think of is to try and put myself in environments that play to my strengths more than clubs or bars, which is what I'll focus on | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:43 AM |
| 3 | What if your personality traits straight up don't align with what most women find attractive?Well that's the thing, you've got a defined image and certain girls will be drawn to it. I don't really - I look like a gym guy, but my personality definitely doesn't match it. And I'm not great at presenting myself in most situations, like I said the more brash outspoken guys can convey themselves at parties, events etc whilst my charm is more subtle and hard to get across during cold approaches, events etc I've gotten compliments that I'm actually a really interesting person after someone's go… | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:33 AM |
| 1 | What if your personality traits straight up don't align with what most women find attractive?And it's exhausting. I guess I'll just be me and connect with who I connect with | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:29 AM |
| 24 | I hate the fact that if you're even off your game for one second, its enough to completely kill a girl's attraction to youIf you truly didn't give a shit, you'd be drinking beer with your friends or working out, playing guitar, writing poetry, shoving carrots up your ass whatever - you wouldn't be giving up your evening and paying $40 for drinks and wearing your best cologne etc I was on some medication that caused my libido to disappear completely so I guess you could say for a few months I really didn't give a shit about women, unsurprisingly during this time I didn't approach, date or message a single one. I thi… | /r/seduction | 05/02/22 03:16 PM |
| 11 | I hate the fact that if you're even off your game for one second, its enough to completely kill a girl's attraction to youYeah, literally the moment I go from being indifferent to being interested in a girl and trying to charm her I end up turning her away - even if she's been infatuated with me for the past several months. It feels like a curse. Maybe they were just trying to win my affection - I can relate to that too. It sucks though | /r/seduction | 05/02/22 03:10 PM |
| 4 | I hate the fact that if you're even off your game for one second, its enough to completely kill a girl's attraction to youWould being unapologetically yourself and not trying to put on any facades or even present yourself as being more upbeat or funnier than you usually are (even if that means less people are attracted to you) help somewhat? | /r/seduction | 05/02/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Does meta game ever work?i can't tell if that's sarcasm haha | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 11:45 AM |
| 1 | What's your approach with ultra attractive but superficial/boring women?I guess you wouldn't, but 1) do you bother with women like this? and 2) what's your approach for women like this? I literally don't know what to even do with them | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 06:11 AM |
| 1 | What's your approach with ultra attractive but superficial/boring women?All in all would you even bother with a girl like this? I honestly feel like it's not even worth it for a casual thing, and I feel like the sex will be lifeless as well - she just goes like a starfish and acts like I should be overjoyed just to be with her. | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Any regular weed smokers here?"Hey, sorry to bother you but do you know how long that surveillance van has been parked there for?" | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Is this supposed to be such a headfuck?I actually did enroll in Psychology this year, I'm planning to pursue a PhD in it at this point (not for dating but because I find it very fascinating and would love to progress the research in areas of disorder I have like ADHD and depersonalisation disorder but i digress) You're right, I should be me. But my brain can't help to try and figure out what it's dealing with. I think to some degree there is nothing to figure out; we're all full of apparent contradictions, influenced by hormonal cycl… | /r/seduction | 21/01/22 05:01 AM |
| 2 | You've just cold approached someone and introduced yourself... then what?I think you'd have to have perfect delivery and they'd have to find you pretty attractive to get away with saying stuff like that - otherwise they'd surely be telling you to get the fuck away (unless they're really drunk or desperate for dick) | /r/seduction | 21/01/22 04:52 AM |
| 1 | Why does it still feel like I'm trying to learn a foreign language?hmm... I'm probably too distant and don't quite smile enough either. It's because I'm usually off with the fairies thinking about something else tbh But then that aloof attitude seems to work for a lot of guys as well Either way I'll try to smile more and make stronger eye contact | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Why does it still feel like I'm trying to learn a foreign language?Good point... that's only happened with one girl in my entire life though... and she moved cities for work about a month after we started dating :/ | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 09:12 AM |
| 1 | You've just cold approached someone and introduced yourself... then what?I've come to reluctantly accept that I'm a pretty funny guy, issue is my humor is really dry and transgressive - they're more likely to say 'what the fuck, did you just say that?' than laugh. It's fine when I'm with friends or if the girls know me well, but it really isn't the sort of humor that gets you laid on a night out. | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 08:27 AM |
| 1 | You've just cold approached someone and introduced yourself... then what?Fair points. I just struggle to enjoy myself because it's not a fun kinda improv it's more like making safe/dull small talk that's flirty but doesn't cross some arbitrary line that makes her feel uncomfortable. I see it as a game of 'try not to fuck up' rather than 'let's see where this goes' which is an attitude I need to change. | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 08:24 AM |
| 2 | You've just cold approached someone and introduced yourself... then what?That was just a hypothetical situation intended to be funny, if a girl actually responded like that I'd say something like 'oh thanks for saving us both some time' and walk off | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 08:21 AM |
| 1 | You've just cold approached someone and introduced yourself... then what?See I've curated my friends so they're all guys (and a few girls) who I can talk about unorthodox shit with, and I've come to find typical 'safe' conversation to be unbearably boring. But I understand that if I brought up these topics right away she would think I'm off my antipsychotic medication and fair enough. But if I met a girl I'd love for her to have a similarly absurd sense of humor and skip passed all the safe small talk. It's just so exhausting to ask myself whether something is approp… | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 08:19 AM |
| -1 | Random appreciation post for Eastern European and Russian womenaka they're perfect prey to run the game on because they typically respond in line with the generalisations made my the menagerie of philandering pick up coaches Nah, I know what you mean, but I think it's too much of a generalisation to be of much use. I know some eastern european women who are braindead religious hypocrites | /r/seduction | 19/01/22 06:01 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah it's not an even playing field at all that's true - even in the mammalian kingdom half the males never get to mate in their lifetimes, whilst certain males get multiple partners. I'm lucky in that I'm 6'4 and muscular, but then I have my own issues including fetish/preferences that means I'm only really attracted to about 1/100 women which makes things a fuck load more challenging and rejection is harder to take because there aren't as many opportunities. Plus ADHD and a mental disorder whi… | /r/seduction | 22/04/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayShe read it but never got a reply which I found a little bit strange and unexpected since I felt like we had quite good chemistry. It beats living in regret though | /r/seduction | 22/04/21 11:27 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayIt's not a small mindset shift - even after writing this I fell into the same trap yesterday and I had to force myself through it. Eventually your mindset does shift though, at least I truly believe it does. Even if you got rejected by every girl you ever approached, there would be a sense of pride. It's like looking for your lost dog...there's a chance you may never find it but at least you can say hey I spent a week searching rather than just giving up on the second day | /r/seduction | 18/04/21 03:30 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayIt's not over yet either. Even if the chance is almost zero is it not still worth trying for? | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 11:28 AM |
| 2 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayThat's pretty extreme - you could definitely cop a harassment charge or get beaten up if they have their partner or friends around - plus I wouldn't want to fuck a girl who genuinely says yes to fucking a stranger but that's just me perhaps. But yeah the point it makes is pretty clear. Personally I don't think it's possible not to care at all. Pick up artists might claim they dont care because of abundance mindset etc but if they got nothing but I suspect a large part of their self worth is stil… | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 11:26 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah it might make the dating pool a little smaller, but then hey at least you'll end up with people who appreciated you. My ADHD and random outbursts and shit makes my dating pool evaporate to more of a puddle of people who can tolerate that stuff or perhaps even find it exciting. I used to hate that but now I wouldn't want it any other way | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 05:00 AM |
| 9 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah I didn't want this advice to come across as though you should force yourself to date multiple people all the time to the detriment of other things in your life - that's definitely not helpful because dating does require some time and energy. More to remind people that they are literally good enough as they are now - not for everyone but there will be people out there who appreciate them. | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:23 AM |
| 6 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayFirst of all I'm sorry to hear about your mum passing and your situation. Things will look up though. Something I've learned in life is that upward spirals happen as quickly as downward spirals. Although this is one instance where I would actually encourage you to focus on ameliorating your circumstances first in regards to living conditions before putting much energy into meeting people and dating. Still remain open to meeting people organically but for your sake I would definitely focus on get… | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:21 AM |
| 9 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayFuck yeah! After writing this I decided to message a girl from work (who just quit) who I've been fond of for a while (this workplace is one where it was really risky to date coworkers... the last time it happened they both ended up losing their jobs). No reply yet, but whether I get one or not, it's the action itself that matters most - and I would rather live with rejection than regret | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:14 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayDo most male hollywood celebrities really sleep with THAT many women or care to? We assume they do because they have girls throwing themselves at them but perhaps not. They do have parties as well though - my friends sister is sort of famous and went to a party where leonardo dicaprio was giving everyone free cocaine so you could leverage things like that too. But most of them are probably quite charming anyway. A large part of 'game' is just being confident in yourself and taking a chance, even… | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:09 AM |
| 3 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayactually no in that case you're done. Better luck in the next life jk | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:03 AM |
| 2 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayThere are a few circumstances where I believe it's valid to assert that someone truly isn't in the right place to be dating/courting - battling a serious mental or physical illness or injury, grieving, broke to the point of being homeless, seriously drug addicted, awaiting prison sentencing, sadistic/illegal fetishes which can't be suppressed Otherwise I think you're ready | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 04:00 AM |
| 3 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah basically a fear or rejection which then gets magnified and distorted into some failure of you as a person. It's insanely hard to adjust this mindset (I'm still working on it) but it can be done and it's one of the most valuable things anybody can do. | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:55 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah well said I've found as I move through life that many people won't appreciate you for being yourself. Accepting that is one of the most important things you can do for your self worth. At work and with family it can be a bit difficult to navigate but why the fuck would you date someone who doesn't like you for who you are? I'd much rather be single than with somebody who I have to put on a facade with. | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayWell at least you don't have to live with regret in that sense. I'm sure you made other improvements. You must have built a lot of fortitude during that time which you can translate to other areas of your life. Also 'it's possible to commit no mistakes and still lose' | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:47 AM |
| 3 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayI still have a dumb friend named cheddar bob | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:45 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywaylol honestly though he is a great source for healthy perspective, but the very act of consuming all that self help stuff is a very slippery slope | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:38 AM |
| 1 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah exactly. I've heard some celebrities in interviews lament how they never know if anyone genuinely likes them anymore, and they try to rekindle their relationship with people they knew before they got famous because at least those people hopefully do right? | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:37 AM |
| 2 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah it's interesting isn't it - people think that if you can learn and research things enough then the execution part should be a walk in the park...but that's where the real mindset changes take place. At the gym, at the bar, at the workplace, at the volunteer group, at the hospital, in a jail cell etc - not in your lounge room reading things whilst you sip a coffee. | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:33 AM |
| 3 | You'll never feel ready... so you fucking force yourself to take action anywayYeah I was unemployed for 6 months I found that I was working out less than when I was working full time... it's all about cultivating the right mindset and building enough momentum | /r/seduction | 17/04/21 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Are 10 out of 10's as insipid, narcissistic and disloyal as the old stereotype suggests, in your experience?Yeah that makes sense. I suppose I meant more that whilst a 10/10 may have a yearning for deeper conversation, they may not have developed their capacity for it because they're rarely put in that situation since they're so sexualised etc? I agree that a lot of 7's and 8's tend to have the most arrogant attitude and overinflated self image lol | /r/seduction | 02/04/21 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Keep in mind the fact that girls sometimes do shit that makes absolutely no sense and there is nothing you can do about it." Well next day the friend that brought her in told me that she thought it was strange that I wasn't hitting on her or making moves." I mean thinking that is objectionable enough but actually mentioning that to your friend is downright embarrassing. What a loser. Yeah, sometimes guys and girls just like to play some puerile head games with others for their own twisted sense of satisfaction. Fuck them | /r/seduction | 02/04/21 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Are 10 out of 10's as insipid, narcissistic and disloyal as the old stereotype suggests, in your experience?I think it's impossible that looks don't have a huge influence on this though...they literally radically alter the way you're treated - and that compounds over time to have a pronounced impact on somebody's personality surely? But you're right in that I've met people who I would consider like 2/10 who seem as bitter and insipid as anyone I've ever met | /r/seduction | 02/04/21 02:00 AM |
| 2 | Persistence only works when you openly, honestly and confidently makes your intentions known while simultaneously showing that you will not be upset if the other person turns down your offer.Well are you insinuating that one shouldn't pursue at all or should do so in a way that comes across as desperate for validation? | /r/seduction | 02/04/21 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do I feel sleazy whenever I attempt to sexualise things...even when I know they want me to?Thanks boss I'm in a pretty unconfident place after covid, things are going great for me with work, I'm on some meds that cause me dick to dysfunction half the time etc so I'm finding it hard to actually embrace confidence and masculine energy. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't really need to fake it to make it? I know the last date I went on I was say too indecisive - she even ended up being the one to choose the place to go for drinks. A lot of women will claim they hate men who act mascul… | /r/seduction | 31/03/21 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Forget everything you read and just be humandepends on the girl - I know a few who roll their eyes at that macho behvaiour however I think every girl (and guy) likes someone who is confident in themselves, even if they aren't traditionally masculine | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Why do I feel sleazy whenever I attempt to sexualise things...even when I know they want me to?Yeah that's why I like short brunch dates. Especially with someone I met on a dating app...they let me get a feel for their personality and make sure I'm physically attracted enough to them without the pressure of feeling like I have to make it all romantic...because half the time I'm not even sexually attracted to girls I meet on dating apps. But you're right that I always look for ways to rationalise my fear. Deep down I'm just not in a very confident place and I'm not confident in myself sexu… | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do I feel sleazy whenever I attempt to sexualise things...even when I know they want me to?Yeah that's a good point about how we shouldn't need to use games or gimmicks to get a kiss - really if we had a nice date we should be able to stand facing them at the end before parting ways, stare at their lips and go in for it. If they're not interested in it then...well there was probably not going to be another date anyway right? It's just hard because sometimes I'll think oh if I don't go in for the kiss this time it will make them even more eager to meet me again, and they'll see that I … | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Forget everything you read and just be humanHmm I would benefit from that a lot actually. I consider myself pretty witty and funny but I realised I'm too factual/analytical when I speak... it can work well with the guys but not so well on girls. Did you join improv classes or something? I have a really really dry sense of humour and people often don't actually know when I'm joking... this absolutely does not work well with some girls where I basically need to declare that I'm about to make a joke. It's hardest on a first date when they do… | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Forget everything you read and just be humanI just consider most really alpha guys I've met really fucking boring and predictable...but I guess girls see things differently | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do I feel sleazy whenever I attempt to sexualise things...even when I know they want me to?Yeah I guess you might be in trouble if you go for the kiss and she's not in the mood for it...but you'll also be in trouble if you don't...and you probably won't get another date. Do you have anything that worked for you to use as an excuse to kiss her? I once looked at a girl in the eyes and said 'times like this I wish I didn't have this no kissing until marriage rule' and that led her to laugh a bit then started kissing... might try that again lol Do you feel like once you've kissed, things … | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Forget everything you read and just be humanbut not just internally...I'll say it out loud to. Say we're getting coffee I'll start talking about how decaf still has some caffeine in it and spitting out coffee facts and the funny story about how I nearly had a stroke when I overdosed on caffeine and stuff and I can tell they're looking at me like '...ok?' meanwhile some guy who I would say is far more fucking boring than I am will just make steady eye contact and say some glib pseudo romantic bullshit and get a way better response from her | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do I feel sleazy whenever I attempt to sexualise things...even when I know they want me to?is there a way to do this that minimizes the uncomfortable side of things? Or reliable ways to know that she's really wanting me to escalate with her? You're right though, I guess that is what it comes down to. I also don't like being accused of being creepy or anything obviously - no coincidence that the guys I know who've been with the most women have been accused of being creeps by a few girls. | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Forget everything you read and just be humanWhat if your whole personality is built on being analytical and basically behaviours which aren't considered sexy (unless the girl really has a thing for intelligent discussion...which some do...although it's relatively rare) | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Forget everything you read and just be humanWhat would you say were the most helpful tips you read about which you probably wouldn't have discovered naturally? I agree that repeatedly failing with the wrong methods doesn't help - although it's at least better than never trying out the 'right' ones | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Forget everything you read and just be humanPhsyically yeah, but the big dick daddy energy alpha pack animal test beast personality is boring and cringeworthy as fuck right? I mean some girls may respond well to that but surely not one's you want. I think it's just about being self assured more than anything else | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Tip For Sliding Into DM When The Person You Want To DM Doesn't Upload Any Storiesto be honest I've just messaged a big paragraph about how I saw her tagged and thought they had a nice vibe - life is short so figured i'd send them a message and see if they weren't up for chatting..and if so what's their favourite cocktail blah blah. Something like that. 2 out of about 12 have replied and we had dates. Most will probably think you're a weirdo but there's not much you can do about that. Especially one's who you have to request to follow - they don't even usually accept you in m… | /r/seduction | 29/03/21 12:36 PM |
| 2 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?I feel like height gets massively overstated here to the point where it's an excuse though. Yeah if you're under like 5'9 you won't make it onto some girls radars but just being tall doesn't mean you're beating girls off with a stick all day | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 06:25 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Hmm maybe I was naïve to think that some girls were at bars looking to meet guys for longer term things? Surely some of them aren't relying on dating apps or friends right. There's still something a bit exciting about the bullshit bar banter even if I'm not expecting it to lead to anything, but yeah, I'm probably not actually missing out on much there. Plus paying at least 40 dollars, being hungover the next day, Chad Thundercock spills his beer all over you and gets angry at you for looking at … | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?I guess natural to feel that way - and the awful reality for a lot of people is that when you feel like you've finally 'got' someone suddenly they lose their lustre and you start going for what you feel that you can't get. Even if they're...kinda worse. I know people who cheated on their girlfriends with much less attractive and less intelligent girls. And yeah there's billions of women in the world, there are probably always going to be a million girls who are better for you than whoever you're… | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 10:35 AM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Yeah I get you. I interpreted your comment as more like 'don't settle down with anyone until you've been with 100's of women'. If something seems pretty good there's no need to necessarily throw it away and hope for something better - that's something I've done all my life in different ways and it hasn't done me much good. Epicurus said something about that. But yes I also don't want to feel like I settled too early and then get filled with regret. With women or career or anything. | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 06:21 AM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Yeah they did lol that's' why I was so interested. I mean I'm still attracted to other types, but I really can't do stick thin or gym girls. Or if she has some crazy strict diet or body goals because then I feel like I'm a bad influence on her. What's strange is that I have asked friends one on one what their ideal body is, about half of them say they prefer chubbier girls too and not just enormous asses and boobs but softness all over and some belly fat. I think a lot of women actually put an u… | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 06:11 AM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?many do though? I have friends who've only ever been with one girl and they seem more or less content | /r/seduction | 05/02/21 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Anybody else’s heart beat fast when in conversation with a pretty girl ?Yeah exactly. That's why the attitude 'any hole is a goal bro' is the stupidest shit. Yeah I could have technically slept with 200 women I'm not that attracted to from across various dating apps or by stalking certain nightclubs at 2am ...what the hell would that prove though? More than that you risk getting someone pregnant, causing them to develop feelings for you, maybe you can't get into it and they realise you aren't attracted to them...it just isn't necessary is it. | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 03:22 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Fair point, I guess any suggestions for places where I can get to know people over a few hours or just where there's less emphasis on cold approaching people. I did a first aid course a few weeks ago and met a few people there. If I could do that everyday I would be right. It's just that at the moment I don't meet very many people this way. | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:54 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Last girl: She ghosted me after about half an hour on Hinge so I looked her up on instagram and thought about sending her a message but I talked myself out of it Before that: Followed her on instagram and sent her a wholesome paragraph asking if she was down to chat a bit and got left on read Before that: flirted with her a bit at work...then her partner came over Before that: she was working in a store by herself in the same shopping centre I work in so I walked in and made some excuse about wh… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:53 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Is that even possible though? You're naturally not indifferent toward them. You want them to respond well to you and you can't fool yourself into thinking otherwise? Or is it more like that's how you want to come across? If I don't like a girl (in a sexual manner) I'll probably just either ignore her or say whatever random shit pops into my head or ask for lady advice to get their perspective (even tho it's not worth much) or ask where the bathroom is or something. Because that's the thing like … | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:42 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?I suppose I was looking more for suggestions on places or ways to meet people more organically...because as it stands I only meet like 2 girls per year who really get to know me. I'd like to bump that up a lot (once the pandemic is over). And part of me feels like I'm missing out on fun by not approaching girls at bars and shit, even tho it's not my style and I've never really found it to be particularly fun. But yeah you're right. | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:33 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?good on you for sticking to your guns. I did that once too in Europe because I knew the girl was engaged. 1 hour of semi awkwardly putting your dick inside someone isn't worth feeling like shit over. And you should feel like shit because I had a friend who was cheated on years ago and when he found out he went and jumped in front of a train. It was a major overreaction and very pathetic behaviour, but it can really mess people up. Unfortunately I'm pretty picky with my type though...if they don'… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:30 PM |
| 1 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Yeah I plan to do some dance classes soon - we're back in lockdown this week though. I feel like dance classes will at least help me be a bit more comfortable with my body or more specifically the movement of my body around others. Also, I'm more attracted to chubbier hot girls e.g. https://64.media.tumblr.com/16ca695fd444eb4bb0381b5b0bb3bef9/b3af496f2a267813-44/s1280x1920/c2ef063035b501a60260a885ee9e59f43a6304a4.jpg And I'm not really into extremely thin or fit girls... should make things easie… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 02:27 PM |
| 2 | When girls get to know me they often fall for me...but how can I capitalize on this when meeting new people?Trust me you don't. The only girls who get really invested in you are girls you're not even into! Then you get angry at yourself for being picky and wasting peoples time. | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 09:02 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else’s heart beat fast when in conversation with a pretty girl ?How attracted do you think you need to be with somebody you're having a date with for it to really work? I dated a girl who I saw as about a 5.5-6/10 last week because she had a really cool personality...unfortunately the date felt more like 2 friends hanging out than something romantic. And I've got enough friends. Now I feel like I've wasted both of our time. I'm not someone who can or wants to sleep with girls they're not very attracted to either. With my my attraction is either I want them o… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 07:58 AM |
| 5 | Anybody else’s heart beat fast when in conversation with a pretty girl ?Man I haven't had this happen in years, it rarely even happens on dates. Until it happened with a customer a few weeks ago though because although she was like 10 years older than me she had my favourite body type (Slender but soft and a bit chubby with big tits) and I've got a bit of a thing for legs/feet so when I had to 'fit' her shoes (work in a shoe store) I was hard as a diamond...I had to wait a while to stand up. In hindsight I should've bloody asked for her number. Do you think it's wor… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Anybody else’s heart beat fast when in conversation with a pretty girl ?For the first 30 seconds. Then I'm overcome by a strange wave of calmness. Then it picks up a bit when I ask for her number or if she'd be up for grabbing a drink. Then right after the interaction I feel a bit dizzy almost. Then for the next hour or two I feel like a king, regardless of how it went. | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 07:50 AM |
| 2 | How to deal with rejectionThe tough part is when you've fantasized about somebody and imagined this positive scenario before you even approach or message them. I've found myself doing it when I'm swiping on fucking dating apps. We need to stay planted in reality not fantasy. Also, it's tough when you're well aware that you could have conducted yourself better, and you shouldn't have made that comment about her friend being attractive, or you shouldn't have taken 3 days to reply to her message...but whatever... you live a… | /r/seduction | 04/02/21 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Direct vs Conversational cold approaches - your advice and experience?thanks for the example - you know I'm always surprised at how recommended lines etc are so 'simple' , but perhaps trying to swoop in with a really elegant sounding one (which i haven't used before in real life) wouldn't work well in reality because it doesn't sound spontaneous enough? The absolute best for me is when I can find something specific to engage in... funny story but I once lost my temper with a girl who was talking on the phone and occupying a machine i wanted to use at the gym for a… | /r/seduction | 09/01/20 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Direct vs Conversational cold approaches - your advice and experience?yeah that makes sense and I've often thought 'avoid bad dates by establishing some rapport first' but in all honesty I find the intial banter difficult because of how contrived the situation is (in my mind) - it's not just like I'm chatting to a stranger, I'm actively assessing whether I want to ask her on a date, trying to find a segue into that etc and it clouds my spontaneity a bit you know what I mean. That's why I thought maybe if I established that first up I could be myself more. Also, ho… | /r/seduction | 09/01/20 01:44 AM |
| 2 | Direct vs Conversational cold approaches - your advice and experience?I know I'm overthinking it man that's a bad habbit of mine.. But say you're in a supermarket aisle with a cute girl who smiles at you - do you try to make a comment or joke about something in your surroundings? bring up some pop culture reference that she should be familiar with? walk up and just introduce yourself? Often an opener doesn't just come to me when I'm in the moment - once I'm talking to them I'm good but I wanted a bit more of a gameplan than just 'stop thinking and approach them' | /r/seduction | 07/01/20 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Direct vs Conversational cold approaches - your advice and experience?fair enough - by direct I mean that would be my first sentence to immediately establish why I was talking to her - whilst it may be somewhat off-putting surely be less creepy than a guy who kinda loiters around and makes small talk if they can't find a segue in to getting their number. My thinking for dinner was that it seems a little more chilled than a bar in my mind - two people just grabbing dinner opposed to some ultra sexual dimly lit bar that may put them off a bit - and if it's going wel… | /r/seduction | 07/01/20 06:06 AM |
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