Girlfriend's past showed up a hell of a hoe phase among other red flags. Advice on how to proceed with keeping her as a plate?

havicke · 2023-10-27T12:17:44+00:00

Break up, find a new plate, it's easy to go from plate to relationship, not the other way, also you do need distance for your emotions, a lot of people here pretend they don't have them or ignore them, but that's simply outlandish.

Break -up, find a few new plates, and reintroduce her to being a plate in the future if the opportunity presents itself

Savings-Paramedic-67 · 2023-10-27T12:26:34+00:00

it would be easy as 1,2,3 if you were actually in control. sounds like you need to make her a plate because youre attached to her validation while also trying to fuck around. it is clear as day you’re in her frame already.

if you really want to make her a plate, tell her you’re not interested in a serious relationship anymore but that you’re down to keep it casual. but you’re not going to be happy about that either tbh.

why? because the moment it gets casual, you’re going to wonder if shes fucking other dudes and because you still have feelings for her, you’re going to fuck your whole frame up, begging for her to be in a serious relationship with you again.

just stop trying to act cool, cut your losses on the hoe and move on.

Redpiller77 · 2023-10-27T12:25:41+00:00

You can't plate an ex girlfriend. Too hard.

AdmiralFiz · 2023-10-27T12:27:14+00:00

You need to be fucking her so good that she has no choice but to keep coming over. Breaking up with a girl who has moved cities for you will make it very difficult to keep the relationship together in any form. I wouldn't worry about keeping her as a plate. There are a lot of other girls who haven't cheated on every partner they've had. If you continue to use her for sex and she feels hurt, there is no telling the potential consequences of your social life/career if she decides to go unhinged and spread false rumors about you.

Pelon01 · 2023-10-27T13:34:08+00:00

The way this currently happened to me is that she suggested it and I agreed. We were dating, we had some fights and I decided to just break up. 2 Weeks pass by and she could see that I was really moving on. We talked about how we miss each other but I also told her I can’t be in a relationship atm for X reasons (I am switching careers, need to get out of some debt, figure out other things, etc.). She then suggested friends with benefits. That’s what we’re doing right now.

RedditSlayer2020 · 2023-10-27T15:11:20+00:00

Do you have any selfrespect? How much do you value yourself? The world is literally crammed with girls and you decide to stick your dick into a cheating disloyal cc carousel rider.

Sadly we live in the age of Simps.

thetonybvd · 2023-10-27T13:14:42+00:00

1/ It's possible that some women cheat on their boyfriends until they find THE guy she want to settle down with and making babies with, mostly because you're close to look like the Chad. Especially if she switched city to city, quit her job for you etc. High chance she'll be loyal to you.

2/ No, you can't make a former girlfriend your sexfriend. Too much feelings involved from her. She will probably hate you and want a revenge

3/ No cheating from you and a clean breakup. Don't forget to recording the breakup and having friends as witnesses, in case she's toxic and showing her true colors, or want a petty revenge or lying to destroy you.

uzy111 · 2023-10-27T13:17:01+00:00

No such thing as a hoe phase as there is no such thing as a murdering phase

Relevant-Pollution97 · 2023-10-27T12:28:45+00:00

Your TLDR is almost as long as the entire post..

Your in her frame!

Leonhart93 · 2023-10-27T18:10:15+00:00

Correction: it's not a "hoe phase", her entire nature is being a hoe. Serial cheaters deserve absolutely no trust.

Quirky_Buddy2674 · 2023-10-28T13:20:51+00:00

The fact that she invested on you should be irrelevant, she is only doing that because she sees you as her insurance, once a hoe always a hoe. Honestly I would suggest you to just break up with her. That's it. But if you really want to keep her on rotation, you will need two things,

Emotional highs and lows
Good sex

If you can somehow make her feel happy, excited, sad, angry, jealous...basically create a bit of drama in her life, and take her through an emotional roller coaster coupled with really good sex. She will almost be addicted to you.

Now break up with her but every time you call her she will come running back to you, even just for a booty call

ThrowAwayhfhdjhxnjd · 2023-10-27T13:12:28+00:00

Either she's fine being a plate or she's not. She might be fine being a plate now but later change her mind. Just enjoy the hat's there

Some women literally don't care or value you enough. They'll be fine being the side piece when you have a gf or married. Some are fine being the main piece while you have side pieces.

Every woman has a hoe phase. Even the ugly ones have a hoe phase. They will all cheat. The biggest indicator is if they place themselves in situations they shouldn't. IE talking to you when she has someone (lmao)

Awkward-Manager5939 · 2023-10-27T15:32:22+00:00

I can see why this sub is corentented. everytime i come here, i see people asking and talking able how to be a bad boy.

if i was a bad boy. i would probaly just cheat on her. How are you going to tell her, that your breaking up with her but you still want to smash.

Hmm. plates are for when you are in your male hoe phase (single). Yes, she is the female version of you. Edit. you want someone with values you dont imbody.

ApeMindFitness · 2023-10-27T19:51:07+00:00

Just curious how did you coax the truth out of her? Did you wait until she was in an emotionally vulnerable state, and then test her reactions to questions? What did you do

videogames_ · 2023-10-28T00:31:03+00:00

Logically you can keep her as a plate as long as you know there’s an expiration date. The issue is I think you like her too much.

Truthfulldude1 · 2023-10-27T17:51:44+00:00

You don't. Sounds like you don't want to grab your balls. How about you be a real man and tell her to her face that you don't want anything serious with her anymore. Not just anybody can do that. Instead of avoiding the guilt from breaking up with her for "bad reasons" (she was a slut), and the guilt for breaking up with her after she's already invested so much in you, and you know this will put her in a disadvantaged position...how about you "man up" cup your nuts, and confront the situation head on. Don't try to turn a woman that is still serious about you into a plate. You're going to hurt her worse than just dumping her. Just dump her and tell her the reason why.

MrBowick · 2023-10-27T12:56:25+00:00

Red pillin. Plating out of spite and feelings lmao. Time to move on

anrii188 · 2023-10-27T18:40:28+00:00

What a dumb egoic fuck! Just leave her be. If she wants engagement and you don't want to, just confront her that you're not into marriage and wish her good luck for the rest of her life and cut it short. Don't try to plate her and take profit of her when you know she genuinely seeks commitement. Her past or future is none of your buisness when you're not thinking about relationship or marriage. Your attitude is what matters. So stop trying to act like an egoic piece of shit and be a man of respect and honor.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2023-10-27T15:34:41+00:00

You're asking for the impossible. You want her commitment because she's convenient, but plates are inherently supposed to break. Break up with her, and let her figure it out.

BlocknGhost · 2023-10-27T21:19:51+00:00

Start lining up other plates and once you’re in with at least one other one, break it off.

red_blood_cells · 2023-10-27T23:40:28+00:00

Easy option is to dump her but any chump can do that

so why are you turning an easy decision into a hard one? just to get attention on the subreddit?

byteseed · 2023-11-04T21:01:08+00:00

What advice you need? You already know what to do. Do you want to date her as LTR? Seems like you are negotiating, not a good sign. Plate her if you want, do not give any promises. Dating sounds like you are attached, and give her false expectations. It is not your problem if she invested, make it damn clear you are not going to be with her in a long run and keep it casual.

Meet, have fun, do not commit, use condoms, enjoy your life.

Do not get attached.

The past in this case is sort of irrelevant, find me a woman who has not been a hoe at some point of her life, especially hot one, it is unicorn and potential wife material. In most cases you even will not know, until deep in the rabbit hole with bun in the oven and other not so easy to cut connections.

dbrockisdeadcmm · 2023-10-27T14:28:36+00:00

Just cheat on her until you get caught and act like you thought that was your deal

momomotorboat · 2023-10-27T18:37:50+00:00

Y'all aren't wrong... but I've plated 4 exes.

There was no controllable methodology to it. The only commonalities were that we had really intense sexual chemistry and I was the one who left them. I left with no intention nor any designs of making them a plate.

Nonetheless, they came back around on different timelines and in different ways.

Other times, when I wanted to convert a gf into a plate? Didn't happen.

The only real advice I can give you is don't wait around hoping to change anything, as you could easily what-about yourself to death. Maintain frame, pursue other things and keep it moving.

Good luck.

kclanton80 · 2023-10-27T21:29:15+00:00

Keeping her is a scarcity mindset. Just replace that 304....

SteveSan82 · 2023-10-28T09:10:44+00:00

You need an abundance mindset. Do not waste your time with damaged women. What if you got her pregnant? You are fucked. Girls like her will destroy you. I have let go of plates with amazing bodies because I saw the writing on the wall.

saiyantmr · 2023-10-27T16:14:40+00:00

What does a “proper hoe in the past” mean for you? You didn’t come with any sort of detail. All women cheat given the opportunity and especially on low value men. It’s the very basics. It doesnt mean it’s right nor that it makes it justifiable. The problem is if she ever cheated on you she is not even worth plating. Next her and cut all contacts, because that’s beyond treason. If she did not consider the following:

I find worth mentioning that you wont find any virgin out there unless she’s 18 or under(which is illegal in most states) and most of the apparent “good girls” will lie about their past telling you only 1/3 of their bodycount if not less. If a millenial has started her sexual life at 15 its s good case (i’ve heard they do it at 10 nowadays something absolutely outrageous in my generation).

In the case you find a virgin the never ending downward spiral of options and curiosities induced by social media brainwash and her false feeling of attainability will make her leave you(my own expeirence and other guy i know who recently just had that). I also know a bunch of them who are absolute trash.

I’m not telling you to accept and be with a hoe(if she is one) but reevaluate what a hoe means in today’s situation of sexual marketplace. Also take into consideration the chemistry between you, the mutual understanding and the bond if you have any of that. She showing signs of high investment is actually a good thing she MAY not be dick riding shell shocked yet and she may love you.

Also dont take for granted a woman just for being on the other side of spectrum, like i said, a virgin. It’s far from the best quality a woman can have. Chances are on 90% of the women you date or are going to date, you will never know her whole past, they will always tend to lie, hide and minimize their sexual experiences ESPECIALLY if you show signs of judgement(like judging others for being hoes), or being red pilled. Be smart, pretend you are ok and very liberal until she spills everything. If you did otherwise it’s most likely that her past for you is lost forever a library of Alexandria situation.

Vynxe-Vainglory · 2023-10-27T12:39:56+00:00

Bro, you're deep in, but red flags wave—plate her, don't wifey, get woke.

Sir_Distic · 2023-10-27T19:48:24+00:00

Sit her down and talk to her, like a man would, and explain that her past is a problem for you. Explain that you are giving her the option of breaking up or being friends with benefits. Whichever she chooses you're fine with.

ApeMindFitness · 2023-10-27T19:52:43+00:00

Abundance bro. Like others said distance from your emotions, the cold truth is sweet. Don’t get caught up over a lil slut

omega_dawg93 · 2023-10-28T04:39:41+00:00

here's the cheat code to keeping ANY woman as a plate = keep fucking her and never marry her.

it's really just that simple. women fake orgasms and men (can) fake relationships... iiwii.

if she tries to force your hand into commitment, let her go... and let her be gone. you NEVER take a plate-level woman seriously.

what's so hard about that?

DearSail7885 · 2023-10-27T20:44:35+00:00

Took a liking to her but life happened;

Translation: I stood around with my c*ck in the wind, and Chad moved in to seal the deal.

4 months back we got talking, 2 months back we started dating

You obviously weren't spinning plates

Problem is that she is invested heavily (switched cities for me, quit her job and is looking for one close to where I stay).

Not your problem. You may feel guilty about it, but she'll bounce back (or more accurately, bounce on some other dude's D)

Easy option is to dump her but any chump can do that,

You speak of chumps as though you are not acting like one in this very moment.

I would like to know how you would proceed with the end goal of keeping her as a plate.

(Blue) PillDragon - this is classic scarcity mentality.

Instead of making a clean break as you know you should, you want to keep her around so you can keep hitting that puss. You are not RedPill in the slightest. Back to the sidebar you go (that is, if you even read it in the first place)

WaitingForTheFire · 2023-10-27T20:36:30+00:00

Make a clean break. It's possible to get sex without living a lie. This is the opposite of no strings attached. You are disrespecting her and yourself if you let this go on any longer. Can you even imagine if the tables were turned? Maybe you don't think it could happen to you. But men get played by women too. Its not right. Seriously, being a PUA doesn't mean you have to act like a POS.

yairb1 · 2023-10-28T09:59:16+00:00

Once you need to consult with people about your situation you already lost. Do you think she’s out there consulting with her friends about you? Guess what she’s not. You lost power and lost control of the situation. As other people said here you’re playing in her frame. She has all the power over you. In these power dynamics that were created you don’t have much room to maneuver. Once you accepted her past and cheating you gave up all your power.

PFD_2 · 2023-10-27T16:02:54+00:00

Life is short and we all have less time than we think we do. Don’t devote any actual energy to keeping her as a “plate”. Live your life, if she sticks around, she does; if she doesn’t, she doesn’t.

grass_cutter · 2023-10-27T20:06:50+00:00

Just dump her ass.

She moved cities and that sucks but you said you've been dating only 2 months? That's on her...

You feel guilty about shit so you don't want to 'hard dump' -- well, nut up and do it. Longer you wait, the harder it will be.

Don't be gutless and leave used condoms around to "Do the dirty work for you" or some other juvenile scheme.

As for keeping her around for "convenient ass" -- well -- that might happen, it might not. I've certainly done with at least 2 exes, but it happened organically. BUT there's a chance it can backfire if the "Fee fees" and drama come raging back, which they will.

Clean dump. Least bullshit. You need to busta nut, go out to the bars, the apps, or fire up the Hub. Less bullshit.

RP_4life · 2023-10-31T18:58:42+00:00

Why are you asking internet strangers to validate whatever it is that you feel or think?

You suck, dude

Naive_Leather_6293 · 2023-10-27T19:44:12+00:00

How many bodies are we talking for her?

PirateDocBrown · 2023-10-28T12:03:43+00:00

Just never let her move in, and keep inviting her over for fun. Or invite yourself over to her place. Bam. She's on the roster.

Whenever she wants to up your commitment, you find a way to delay.

Make no promises, but always be up for fun.

Sendmeloveletters · 2023-10-28T16:48:40+00:00

Idk man if she wants to marry maybe you should cut her loose. You shouldn’t lead chicks on

22Hoofhearted · 2023-10-28T18:07:57+00:00

If she quit her job and moved cities after 2 months of talking, add that to the list of red flags. Don't think of it as losing her as a plate, but getting her out of the way for a better option.

Serpico914 · 2023-10-28T21:20:05+00:00

I think being honest with her is the best thing to do. Especially if you feel like her red flags are too much. You won’t be able to make her a plate. It will probably shatter her ego and in a way drive her towards you more but genuine honesty in this situation will go a long way.

M_Ptwopointoh · 2023-11-12T02:16:23+00:00

No such thing as a "hoe phase", OP. She's still the same person.

Get in, get your STD and get on out of there.

Title	Girlfriend's past showed up a hell of a hoe phase among other red flags. Advice on how to proceed with keeping her as a plate?
Author	PillDragon
Upvotes	168
Comments	81
Date	October 27, 2023 12:03 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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