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[–]Spinuchi 91 points92 points93 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Night and day difference.
For me I wasnt huge with this difference. I was about 35 lbs overweight And had a "dad bod". Started going to the gym and losing weight slowly while also gaining muscle. Since then i get numbers alot and get attention, also began dating a couple people. I wont say all of this success is attributed to weight loss.. But the confidence I gained and exude because of it.
[–]RealHumanBeing2020 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are you using dating apps or meeting people irl?
[–]Spinuchi 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
irl my dating app success is non existent. But going out, finding a reason to start convos etc is where success comes from.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you have any tips for finding a reason to start a conversation? Because that's my biggest struggle.
[–]richietherich92 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm a shorter guy (5'7") and I used to weigh roughly about 250 lbs about a few months ago. I just recently lost weight and am now down to about 192 lbs and down several pants and shirt sizes.
In terms of game, I didn't hook up with many girls when I was fat because I usually got friendzoned. But I'm a social person so I hooked up once in a blue moon.
However, when I started losing a lot of weight and worked on my fashion, I noticed my results with girls significantly improve. I noticed a lot more girls looking in my direction and doing double takes. When I go talk to them, it's not an immediate rejection, like it used to be. They're actually interested in talking to me and sometimes they do all the work for me.
Along your weight loss journey, you may be tempted to give up because of a multitude of reasons, like you're not seeing progress or it's too hard to maintain your diet. As someone who has been there, it will take time but I promise that it will get better. There's a saying that "Rome wasn't built in one day" and the same applies for weight loss.
You're on the right path man. Keep it up!
[–]useles-converter-bot 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
250 lbs of double AA batteries could start a medium sized car about 21.0 times.
[–]converter-bot 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
250 lbs is 113.5 kg
[–]Smoovemammajamma 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not worth it imo
[–]strugglingstudent00 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I went from 210 to 185-190 lbs in about a year. Im 5'9 , 21 years old, I have a baby face, and hold fat in my face pretty hard to the point where I needed to get visible abs to lose the double chin. Im not super huge at the gym(I still have made great progress for the year and fill out my clothes very nicely) but after a solid year of 6 days a week in the gym, proper technique, proper diet, and proper sleep patterns my body has changed significantly. Women notice me for my body outside of the gym now and I can see plenty of women doing double takes when Im wearing the proper clothing(fit of the clothes also plays a large role). I hate taking pictures of myself, dating apps and social media in general but Ive gotten lots of compliments from old friends on my body change and people now asking for advice on fitness and diet.
Find a good workout buddy, watch plenty of youtube videos on technique, find good regimens(lifting vault has plenty of free ones that work) and learn about diet and nutrition. If nothing else comes with it you will have more confidence in your body image and you will feel better physically, emotionally and mentally which is a win in my books. I always air on the side of "do something for yourself, not to impress others" because when you do something to impress others and dont get results quickly enough, dont get the responses you were expecting, etc.. It can be a massive blow to your confidence and it will make sticking with weight loss and fitness seem pointless in a sense if your original motivation gets taken away from you.
[–]Loose-Procedure-1787 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
HELL YEAH BROTHER!!!!!!
[–]zsarmstrong 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Depends on your personality. I hate to sound cliché with that but it is true. If you are an outgoing and fun person to be around, and you can easily talk and make conversation around women then you are set. In that case, hitting the gym and getting a meal plan in order will skyrocket your chances. If you struggle being socially awkward (me lol) then you also need to work on that.
I had more game when I was fat mostly because I was an outgoing person back then. Even though I lift every day and stay in great shape. I have 0 game because I struggle to talk to pretty much anyone my age.
Either way, you SHOULD hit the gym, and get a meal plan in order. It becomes one of your favorite hobbies when you start seeing results. You also have a lot of opportunity to meet a lot of other people.
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[–]zsarmstrong 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I started working out seriously in high school and had pretty good game in high school too (multiple gfs, few hookups). Then I did online community college while working 40+ hours a week. I mean it worked to transfer into university but I am way more introverted and socially awkward than I have ever been.
I'll get there though lol.
[–]SkyeStorm1962 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with you on this and can confirm it does work from a girls p.o.v. Just be happy that is a mans true charm to getting a girls attention.
[–]1234567d1234565 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
TBH. Nothing changed for me. I think alot of the game is about confidence and how you dress.
[–]jwilhelm0618 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Idk different people are attracted to different things. I shaved my head and grew a goatee once and noticed a different type of woman was checking me out. As far as with the ladies...I did pretty good at 280 pounds and do pretty good at 200.
[–]useles-converter-bot 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
280 pounds is the same weight as 198.58 'Double sided 60 inch Mermaker Pepparoni Pizza Blankets'.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Seems like it's not a problem of your looks if they lose interest after talking to them. Work on your conversation game.
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[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Pretty sure it is.
You show wayore success with initial contact than you give yourself credit for (contrary to popular belief, you're gonna get shot down 9/10 times). You probably look fine. Just work on your conversation skills.
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[–]cormacru999 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
They are entirely right & I know that because of how you act in just this exchange. Arrogant & too sure of yourself, as if women couldn't possibly figure you out in 3 exchanges when we just figured you out in this one. And even if you disagree, you jumped to called them retarded, which is a really gross expression, & insulting people you disagree with is equally gross. They don't want to talk to you because of how you act man.
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[–]SkyeStorm1962 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Hello this is from a girls P.O.V
You are not very smart, are you? The fact that you lack understanding towards a logical review and the use of your language choices confirms you are a close minded duche. And if you feel insulted then it's true.
I can see why you get ditch after three exchanges of messages. Which by the way is a form of conversation. And if you don't even know what that is then there is your issue right there that confirms you need to work more on your game.
Your not fat your just ugly.
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[–]SkyeStorm1962 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So defensive guess it hurt huh?
[–]SkyeStorm1962 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Hahahahahaha Your funny to laugh at dude
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[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree w I brother, so many waste mans on reddit tryna assume so much shit about you based on 1-2 sentences lol. Then the girls pop in tryna give their bs advice about you, knowing full well that you’re right. Womens dating advice in general is useless and shouldn’t be listened to because what they say and what they do are opposites.
Another dummy, Who asked how to get girls here? You're dating men if you want to get the opinions from one! Not only is he fat he's now gay asf. HAHAHAHA
That is why they friendzone the fatty. Gay Vibes for sure.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So I complimented you on your initial contact, said you probably are fine with how you look, and you insulted me anyway?
Can you see how your conversation skills might be lacking? 🤔
Enjoy doing the same thing and expecting different results. I'm sure an incel forum is waiting for you.
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[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I never insulted you.
Maybe don't ask for advice if you don't want it?
You haven't helped your case any. If I was a woman I'd assume you were dangerous and unstable. Women don't date you because they don't want to get stabbed.
Anyway, you're blocked now. Enjoy staying an angry loser.
[–]wxnoqzmp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First impressions are incredibly important, tbh OP it sounds like you have yet to appreciate that.. like you said you’re amazing with lady friends, so once you’re in their good books you should have no problem..
but the qn a new person wants to gauge you by is are you able to handle new and possibly awkward situations with style.. try to think of each conversation as a car with 2 steering wheels.. maybe your moves didn’t excite her enough in first impression.. maybe she needed more comfort, or more understanding or more openness or more excitement or more sensuality.. but if you steered in the direction that doesn’t give her those key initial vibes, she may have lost interest… been there and worked on it, so helping out a brother
[–]JacobMoogberg69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Post photos. We can give you some style tips or how to carry yourself better.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not coming up for me
[–]Simp4Aurelius 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here’s my take as a guy who went from 330lbs to 250lbs and 24% bf at 6’2”. Played football, got big for varsity lineman captain position. Got out of football but still ate like I was playing football and got fat as shit. In college currently, have broad shoulders and have lifted weights for roughly 4-5 years so I have a slightly leaner power lifter body.
After losing 80lbs, I definitely get more second glances, convos where the girl is immediately invested and flirty, and overall initial attraction. Looks do matter.
BUT I know guys who are fat who have better results than me and I think it comes down to facial structure in terms of physical attraction. If you have prominent cheekbones and jawline, you can have quite a bit of extra weight, but if you’re average in the face, your facial features will disappear. It also changes the type of girl you can typically get with. If you have some extra weight, it’ll be relatively easy to get with girls who have some extra weight.
If you want thinner women, you’ll have to put in the work to be thinner yourself typically speaking. A big guy with some sort of status can typically break that boundary, but that, personally speaking, is a lot more difficult and complicated than just losing weight and working on game.
So yes, looks matter, and losing weight will definitely help, but that’s far from the only thing. Game matters and genetically defined physical features matter.
Working on your game, body composition, and overall life (fun, high value, etc.) are well within the realm of your control and should be taken care of.
Maybe nobody will admit it or don’t have experience but being fat doesn’t just burden your dating life, even meeting other friends and dudes is harder. “Skinny privilege” exists, but 99% of people have control over it. Deny it or complain about it if you want, but taking control is the only way to overcome it.
Friendzoning or lack of interest could be your physical appearance or your game so don’t focus on one at the expense of another.
[–]cormacru999 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It probably has much less to do with your appearance & much more to do with your 'game'. With your personality. Most of the women I know (& I have maybe a handful of male friends & we don't talk much, I'm notoriously tough on men) care less about what a guy looks like & care much more about how they act. Of course there are women out there who fixate on appearance but I wouldn't want to date them anyway. I'd bet you're getting denied because of what you say & how you act on those dates.
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haha they lied
[–]SkyeStorm1962 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Those girls who friendzone you don't 'love you' your just a boredom panel they go to. To waste their time away.
Another is also they don't have the balls these little twelve-year-olds that your speaking to, to actually give you critical pointers and keep it real. Hence they gave you the delusion that they think your a great guy just not a great potential lover.
[–]accrescent 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By my observation, you need one of to ways into a woman's sights before she'll consider personality: looks or already known through friends. Visual enticement or social obligation.
[–]SkyeStorm1962 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a girl, I have dated men of All sizes and I really did get along quite well with my fluffier guys more than my smaller ones. Their size didn't matter to me it was how we had connected that had kept me staying but after a while they would lose a little bit of their weight and then walked around the house as if their sh*t don't stink! Major turn off.
I did have one guy who admitted to being big however he was comfortable with himself and made me feel as if I didn't have to walk on eggshells about the weight topic. And I didn't feel as though I had to reassure him for an insecurity. His confidence in knowing what he was and being happy for who he was, was extremely attractive.
The girls who diss you man they are doing you the favor cause if you try to get girls like that you are going to be constantly worried about your weight, looks, styles just to maintain the relationship.
So regardless of your weight I think you just need to look in the right places for the right girl. But if you just want a hit and run. Big Men can still worktheir way around that.
[–]Ray2020K -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For men height is much more important than BMI to women.
Yes men with a BMI of 27 are the most attractive to females.
But please be healthy which means a BMI between 17.5 and 25.
Respect
It’s obvious. If you’re fat and you lose weight you’ll do better
It’s a major difference, a overweight or fat Man will to me look extremely un masculine. Low body fat coupled with muscles looked masculine af. I’d suggest this route but if I had to choose one itd be low body fat. Your face looks better if you have the genetics also sports/weightlifting etc just makes you healthy plus a ass kicking hobby. If you wanna live this life get your ass in shape period
[–]vorter 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Conversely, can anyone comment on how it was gaining weight if you were previously skinny?
[–]Adjustedwell 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My guy datings apps have way too many variables to attribute failures to get matches to your looks especially if you dont pay for "extra services" etc.
Pic quality, pic variety, decent bio and probably height will matter the most If you're decently good looking.
[–]tes_befil 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I went from 300lbs overweight to 190lbs and actively go to the gym. This helped a ton with dating on apps and in person. It definitely isn't everything but it sure helps get you to the point where you meet people easier. If you focus on gym with a good routine and a semi okay diet you'll see massive difference in no time.
[–]winning2323 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"You don't have a second chance to make a good first impression" - Some Wise Guy
A lot more girls/women will find you sexually attractive when you are fit.
[–]Shadow__Account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will help with getting noticed and you will attract more girls, that being said it’s not going to magically change your behavior that makes you get friendzoned. Don’t expect too much from it, just keep on your path and take the extra bonuses that come with it.
[–]Malimalata 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually got laid more when I was fat tbh not sure how that one works
[–]NinjaTurtle2077 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s more about confidence and personality than your weight but for most people being fat and large is a drain on confidence so when you lose weight your confidence goes up and so does your game
I’ve known really big guys who are smooth and know how to talk to girls despite their weight, they have no problems dating attractive girls.
[–]ShadyDomes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot better. Still don't have a girlfriend but im pretty picky. Losing weight and putting on muscle has definitely helped.
[–]anoyingprophet 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once you start attracting women purely from your looks, you'll learn that game is a lie lol. If a girl is attracted to you, she'll think something dumb you said was funny, something corny you said was cute, and will be thinking more about you in her spare time. Just like men, women are finessed by looks. It's a harsh reality. So you'll notice, you won't have to try as hard to charm a woman when she's attracted to you.
[–]FlatDistance5 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ll be honest the women here won’t tell you they are attracted to looks they’ll say it’s more of how you carry yourself.
Which is true to an extent.
For me when I go to the gym I feel better and I feel more sociable, so my verbal game is tighter.
But......
Even though I feel better and more sociable my dating life was night and day between 5’11 270 me and 228 me. When I was 228 no change in style multiple dates every week. 270 me cold approaching lots of attraction some numbers no dates. Could be text game could be style but working out and getting fit makes the biggest difference.
[–]ProphetPhilosophic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Growing up fat, I always heard I had a good personality. On top of that, I was fairly social and was always around women so I didn't have much trouble talking to them. I would even say that I was able to attract them through my personality and game.
The result of losing about 100 lbs is that I became more confident and direct resulting in more closings.
[–]CompetitionFair7686 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Upload some pictures of yourself somewhere and post the link here
[–]rickky99 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lost a lot of weight still don’t get much pussy
[–]LogosKing 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man, tons of ugly, overweight guys get dates, and fuck. I'm not particularly attractive. Some girls rate me an 8, some rate me a 5. I'm sorta chubby. Around 199 pounds. I have about 3-4 solid 9/10 girls literally begging for me to go exclusive with them. The game is about how you walk and how you talk.
Try improving how you look at yourself, and go on a diet. Start going to the gym, and improve your diet. Just diet and exercise will seriously boost your confidence even if you aren't making fast gains, or losing weight quickly.
People fear loss, and want what they cannot have. Simply research tactics used by abusers, and narcissists, and sociopaths. Dread game, and blowing hot and cold, are very simple and very common.
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