Ugly women don't have more dating opportunities. We are invisible or mocked

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ArmariumEspata · 2024-05-08T13:34:13+00:00

Thanks for sharing your experience. I hate how people on this subreddit claim even the least attractive women have an upper hand in dating. It’s literally not true. Unattractive women may have it worse than any other group.

cOmE-cRawLing_Faster · 2024-05-08T13:04:10+00:00

OP, how does your situation compare to your hypothetical male counterpart?

Dertross · 2024-05-08T13:27:57+00:00

Men don't have a clue how bad it is for actually ugly women

The world ignores is. The world rejects us. We feel like we're on our own but at the same time for on nowhere.

So you are experiencing what the average and below man experiences. Congratulations, you achieved Equality™.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-05-08T12:52:31+00:00

I’ll wager that, like most women, you’re only interested in the top 20% of men and that’s why you’re getting rejected - if you were willing to date your male counterparts, then you’ll have ample opportunities; but if only the elite of men will do, then you won’t

TemporaryDistinct942 · 2024-05-08T13:55:12+00:00

I kind of agree with you, when people talk about all the red-pill or dual mating strategy they are all imagining some average looking woman, but the average woman is not average, if half the population of woman is obese, 25-30% is overweight an average woman just by elimination is top 10 or 20% and if I throw in all kind of facial symmetry, fats in right places what red-pill people are imagining as average might literally be top 5% woman in looks.
people don't even look at average woman (true American average, with obesity or overweight).

thedarkracer · 2024-05-08T12:55:17+00:00

Something which I might agree on with you. This reality is what majority of men face and the reason you won't get sympathy bcz you are in the minority of women who experience this

balenciaghoe · 2024-05-08T12:58:53+00:00

Are you picky yourself? Be honest.. I’m a woman and i am picky. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. Looks matter to me as well as personality. They don’t have to be perfect 10/10 but they need to at least be attractive to my liking. I have many types so it’s hard to state what i find attractive. Being picky can play a part in what your dating life. You have options

Also when you say you’ve been mocked what does that mean? So people just blatantly mock you in your messages i don’t get that part

DumbWordsmith · 2024-05-08T13:09:28+00:00

I think you're right. There are just way more of us (ugly dudes) than you (ugly women). And because women tend to care more about the opinions of others, you guys often isolate yourselves and barely go out. I don't blame you for reacting that way.

I'm an ugly dude. I have Slavic ancestry as well. I inherited my mom's yin sanpaku eyes and narrow cheekbones. I also inherited my dad's hook nose (small and thin but with a giant bump in the middle) and thick brow ridge. I lucked out with a normal chin.

Jaded-Worldliness597 · 2024-05-08T12:57:44+00:00

While I don't disagree in theory, I struggle to believe that you are some kind of impossible case. I mean, seriously we have dudes that will get with sheep.... for my Turkish bros... even chickens. Being ugly is of course very difficult, but it isn't impossible.

Also, you can talk to a plastic surgeon to diminish some of the issues.

No-Search6744 · 2024-05-08T13:46:33+00:00

Nah ugly women still have more opportunities compared to a ugly man. Full stop

dan_legend · 2024-05-08T13:20:55+00:00

Hit the gym, you can only control what you can control. I've seen some absolutely UGLY women, but the ones with the where with-all to at least make their bodies attractive have always impressed me because they took life by the horns, genetics be damned, and made themselves attractive to a huge swath of men.

Quiet-Mouse9956 · 2024-05-08T12:59:02+00:00

I am just incredibly sorry that we live in a world that's made you feel like this. I actually don't have anything to say other than that.

I hope that one day someone sees you for your heart and soul and falls in love with every single bit of you.

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Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-05-08T13:58:46+00:00

What do you feel when people suggest that you aren't self-improving enough, that you have to develop your social skills, work on charisma and get new hobbies to meet more men?

Diamond_Claws · 2024-05-08T14:02:25+00:00

Perhaps you would hang more dating opportunities if instead of investing in your romantic prospects you invested in your career? There are probably plenty of men who would find a high income, nice house and marked accomplishments sexy?

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Dishonouronmycow2 · 2024-05-08T13:16:00+00:00

I still have comments on old pics on Facebook from my teenage years of guys calling me ugly and laughing about it, still have the comment of a guy jokingly asking me out for Valentine’s Day with all of his friends taking the piss underneath it. People don’t realise how when you’re seen as unattractive it’s not just that people don’t want to date you, for some reason they see it as a personal insult that you exist and have this idea that you should be ridiculed for it. I’m sorry to you and anyone else that has ever been treated poorly for your appearance

Lazy_Round_640 · 2024-05-08T13:27:52+00:00

I will take you out for dinner if you want pm me

Wonderful-Cicada-912 · 2024-05-08T13:29:31+00:00

slavic characteristics are considered ugly?

ppvremsleep · 2024-05-08T13:33:58+00:00

You can still get affection if you put yourself out there, your male counterpart can’t. The life experience of an ugly fat woman is terrible though, the level of discrimination is crazy. I’d rather be an ugly guy overall.

IceColdProfessional · 2024-05-08T13:37:24+00:00

I find it hard to believe me openly mock you to your face or even online. That's social suicide for a man and most social media platforms have gotten so strict they insta-ban men for even constructive criticism.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-05-08T13:51:02+00:00

Ugly women don't have more dating opportunities

Compared to what?

throwaway164_3 · 2024-05-08T13:52:05+00:00

I empathize with you. It’s sucks. That said,

1) welcome to the normal average male experience

2) you can instantly become less ugly by not being fat/obese; however a short man who is rejected by the world cannot become magically tall

Lenovo_Driver · 2024-05-08T13:07:21+00:00

Dudes here will proceed to disregard whatever you’ve said because in their heads you can still be a hole for desperate dudes and that is great because sex is apparently all that matters.

Refusetosay12 · 2024-05-08T13:33:10+00:00

It's a shame that some men can't see beyond their solipsism and recognize that unattractive people have a hard way to go, men and women. And the idea that some men will fuck sheep so therefore there's a man out there for the OP may be less of a balm than it's intended to be. Wouldn't you hope that any self respecting woman would pass on the sheep fucker and remain alone? I hope no sheep are on this site, but if there are, I'm sorry to throw ewe under the bus.

I'm sorry you're in the predicament you're in, OP. I hope you find peace and whatever else you're looking for. Know that while men don't always show a lot of empathy, there are extreme cases here so don't take those responses as representing a lot of men.

Aafan_Barbarro · 2024-05-08T13:40:39+00:00

This needs more self-improvement and it's your personality and entitlement and the problem is only you comments.

Cyrrow · 2024-05-08T13:41:49+00:00

Pics or it didn't happen.

yodol-90 · 2024-05-08T13:46:51+00:00

put urself out there

berichorbeburied · 2024-05-08T13:51:19+00:00

I can’t argue/debate against your lived experience. And I can’t argue/debate your opinion of your lived experience.

So instead I want to ask clarifying questions to understand.

Are you saying you’ve never had a sexual opportunity presented to you that you’ve turned down?

Have you ever had a relationship or an opportunity for a relationship?

I know you mentioned losing weight and or clearing your face.

But have you ever worked out specifically to improve your looks/attractiveness and wore make up specifically to improve your looks/attractiveness and change your behavioral patterns/personality or dressing attire to improve your attractiveness.

And these aren’t intended to blame you are say that you didn’t try hard enough.

Im just asking the steps you’ve taken to remedy your problem (if it is a problem to you)

Which leads me to my next question.

Do you want to have sex or a relationship?

Or

Would you rather (be content to or happier to) be alone/single

I also understand your main point.

That you are saying that men group all women together when they aim complaints at women.

When in reality they are talking about the “pretty” women or to a lesser extent the “average” women.

While you have a different lived experience than those women but people assume you have the same experience than those women simply because you are a woman.

And I can agree and accept the main premise of your op.

And I’ll self reflect on that

Title	Ugly women don't have more dating opportunities. We are invisible or mocked
Author	South-Goat2900
Upvotes	9
Comments	67
Date	May 8, 2024 12:40 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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