I see posts in here a lot asking this question, but I'm really struggling. I wanna open a dialogue on this because this appears to be kinda late game strategy for a lot of guys, and there seems to be attitude that "it'll come naturally" that I'm not finding to be true.
For context, I was, at least as a lot of people in here put it, a loser with a girlfriend over a year ago. We were together, and she treated me pretty bad, I did a bad thing, it ended. Now I'm having to learn all this at 30 instead of in my 20s, don't be me, younger bros.
That out of the way. My entire social circle got kind of destroyed. I do have friends from college, but we all moved off. I followed her to a major city. I have a ton going for me, I'm tall, I make good money, I have my own place and car, all the normal stuff. I'm in therapy and have a good gym program. Inner game is improving, but I do struggle to "see myself as the prize" as a lot of us like to say, but I'm working on it. I read Models, and damn, its a great book, but I'm struggling with one piece. For the last year, I have been fucking trying like hell to build an evolving social life. We're on reddit, so I feel like this might be obvious, but I was/am a nerd. My favorite hobbies are D&D and philosophical debate. These circles don't evolve much and rarely involve women. I tried dancing (great for so many reasons, learn to dance), I tried rec sports, I'm learning an instrument, and hell, I tried bar trivia. The one new thing I picked up that has some momentum is rock climbing.
But with all these, I have only made lasting male friends and basically no 'groups.' In Models, Mark seemed adamant that once you start to focus these kinda social endeavors, your social life will naturally "take off" and you can meet cool interesting women that you'd want to date. Fucking how mate? I ask people to hang out, "Nah, man, no time, I'm only here for this." Hell, at my dance classes, I would create a group chat with everyone in the classes to see people wanted to go practice at the dance halls, fucking no one ever wanted to. The rec sports seemed most promising, but to be honest, I was stretching my interest hard there. I'm not much of a sports guy, and talking fantasy sports is like watching paint dry for me.
I understand day game, I can get decent amount of numbers and the occasional date if I really focus it, but as a lot of people will tell you, meeting your girl is a long shot in day game. And I want my girl. Thing is, I'm not a big drinker, I like to smoke a little weed, and I'm more outdoorsy than down to go to a nightclub. I'm in a bad location for that kinda personality, but I don't wanna give up my career, and I'm okay with that compromise. So, I'm mostly only getting dates through the apps, and I will eventually probably land something I can be happy with, but its slow and I'm not steering the ship. I think we all want to be steering the ship in our dating lives. I want a very generic nice girl, decent looking, wants kids, family oriented, some shared interests. I'm told this should be easy. Nah, on the apps its all hookups focused even from the girls. If not hookups, theres a ton of baggage being thrown around that I don't have the experience to handle. I understand that for what I'm looking for, I need that healthy social life. However, I am out here fucking struggling to build it. And all the advice seems to be, "Its one of those targets you hit by aiming at something else, pick a hobby and gun it till the social life springs up around it." Not working bros, people seem way more independent post covid or whatever, but I went from a guy who organized college parties to a guy whose walking the lakeshore with his dog because he has nothing else to do. Can we please get some insight in how to build a social life that causes people, but eventually quality women, to enter your life?
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