I don’t get their outrage on Hypergamy

xvszero · 2025-04-07T23:21:41+00:00

They think every woman is like that. "AWALT" = "all women are like that". They have convinced themselves it is some biological imperative of women. So they don't think they can trust any women.

Soft-Neat8117 · 2025-04-08T02:00:33+00:00

Two reasons:

One: They believe that all women are only attracted to the 666 dudes and that any woman who is not with such a man is either settling because she can't obtain the type of man she really wants (and is likely cheating on him) or the guy is rich and she's a gold digger (and again, she's probably cheating on him).

Two: The types of women who would be interested in dating a man like themselves are not attractive enough for them. They are only attracted to the top percentage of women, so they think women are the same way about men.

DEBRA_COONEY_KILLS · 2025-04-08T00:11:46+00:00

They believe that nearly all women operate like that and those who don't, don't yet, but have the potential to. That is why so much of their rhetoric is about "taming" women

OffModelCartoon · 2025-04-08T04:28:21+00:00

”Complaining that you can’t be a swinger”

Hi, I used to work in event organization and party planning, at a venue that hosted many a swinger party. I assure you the majority of men who are swingers aren’t above six feet tall, don’t make more than 6 figure salaries, and idk about the other one but considering they were totally average guys in every other way… 🤷‍♀️

You get more hippie types on one end of the spectrum, like not burning man tech bros but actual legit hippies. And metalheads. Then there are the hardcore bdsm hobbyists (the ones who seem even more excited about building equipment and making their own costumes than actually using it, which I found oddly wholesome.) Then, way on the other end of the spectrum, you’ve got cigar-chomping libertarian types who maaaaaaybe crack six figures but not six feet tall, and tend to have really off-putting personalities like never shutting up about crypto/NFT/metaverse/AI, and a “sense of humor” that only consists of repeating hacky comedy bits from the ‘00s and ‘10s trying to play it off like they came up with it on their own. Then just a bunch of copy-paste military guys.

My point is… the majority of male swingers aren’t at all what one would consider a “Chad” but they still get plenty of action because they’re in a hobby, a community, that involves swinger activities.

Sufficient_Cut_5008 · 2025-04-08T06:48:36+00:00

Because they want to attract all women, which is stupid

diabolicvirgo · 2025-04-08T00:21:34+00:00

ego vs reality discrepancy

Wild-Judgment-404 · 2025-04-08T01:24:24+00:00

I think the truth of the matter is they're angry they weren't born super rich and attractive, they want to be the Brad Pitts and Henry Cavils of the world. It is an extremely spoilt brat mindset you're correct, as the vast majority aren't like that yet we all manage. Comparing yourself to the 1% is completely pointless.

WWhiMM · 2025-04-08T03:04:26+00:00

It's probably more comfortable to believe your romantic failures are a kind of persecution instead of a consequence of bad decisions and/or bad personality. Or maybe relationships are scary, and believing relationships are impossible actually means that you're safe from ever having someone intruding on your life. Either way, a fatalistic belief like that can protect you from the challenge of growing and changing. (or, seems that way, idk)

fluttering_vowel · 2025-04-08T03:45:33+00:00

right! I say this over and over -they only need to worry about this if their partner being 20-24 and looking like a model is their top priority. If you’re motivated by superficial criteria then you need to be the counterpart to that superficial criteria. Why not get out of the realm of superficiality altogether and prioritize real connection and compatible values. Don’t view being younger and the most conventionally attractive as better, and then you won’t have to worry about women who have superficial criteria either. I know so many emotionally mature women who don’t care about their partner’s income or height.

The “top 5% of men” to me are those who are emotionally mature, devoted to something bigger than themself, and able to connect deeply. I don’t care about income, height, a 6 pack, etc -those are boring details. It is attractive to take care of our bodies and be physically active, but having a 6 pack or huge arms has never made someone more attractive to me.

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2025-04-08T00:38:01+00:00

When they are presented with "hypergamy", it tends to involve wording that stokes outrage and a feeling of helplessness

zonadedesconforto · 2025-04-08T11:37:38+00:00

They don’t consider any woman that is not 100% aligned with their standards as possible romantic/sex partners.

Think_please · 2025-04-08T11:14:32+00:00

It's a lot nicer to think that you are the bottom 99% in an unfair system than the bottom 25% in a fairer one.

CosmicCalicoBTD · 2025-04-08T00:09:16+00:00

They believe TikTok represents the majority of 4B women. That's the real issue along with their inability to admit their poor social skills and fears, then tackling them.

rebrando23 · 2025-04-08T14:44:54+00:00

"Let’s say that they are right and most women only want to date tall, rich men who look like gym rats (see the “666 rule”). So what? Who cares? Assuming you want a relationship, you don’t have to attract the majority of women. You only have to attract one. So why not ignore the picky women, and focus your energy on the ones who can look past your height and looks?"

Because if this WAS true, then there simply wouldn't be enough remaining women to get into relationships with the 95%+ of men who aren't 6"+ and wealthy.

The premise is NOT true, but I don't really understand the argument that if it was true it's not a big deal. If you accept the premise, most even above average dudes have no hope. That's why you have to fight the premise.

Theseus_The_King · 2025-04-08T18:56:45+00:00

They’re the kind of guy they think women have to settle for, or that they’re no one’s choice. They’re telling on themselves

oldcousingreg · 2025-04-08T13:20:24+00:00

Because logic debunks their bullshit

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2025-04-08T15:54:47+00:00

Complaining that you can’t be a swinger is almost like complaining that you aren’t a multi-millionaire

Exactly. Feeling bad that we aren’t Chad is like feeling bad that we aren’t billionaires. Not very practical

bluehorserunning · 2025-04-09T01:14:52+00:00

Both women and men want to date the most attractive, most wealthy, most fit, most healthy, smartest, most adept person they can get.

It’s only a problem in women, for some reason.

YesIAmRightWing · 2025-04-08T10:27:12+00:00

i never understood this 666 because when i was a kid, i mean like 11-18, we all got with girls and shock horror we were all zit faced teens, short dudes with no money cause we were students.

it seems they are describing their particular perspective which could defo be a thing where they are from, but just not in my case.

Chickenburger6057 · 2025-04-09T14:32:35+00:00

I am convinced there are 2 major subsections of redpill followers. 1. The classic “incel” bitter because the act of intimacy is hard to achieve 2. Bitter ex and current boy friends trying to wrap their head around what happened with what they thought was a “good girl”. These types will tend to try to figure out why the women they took serious are f***ing losers. Only the type 1 will hyper focus on hypergamy. For me when I was deep in it I never understood the whole hypergamy thing because it felt like the issue was the women were fast to sleep around not the opposite.

NoRefrigerator267 · 2025-04-12T15:57:42+00:00

I think they feel like every women is like that, not just “most”.

I’ll also say, though, that maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I’m not the biggest fan of the idea that my hypothetical partner would have to “overlook” my height or looks. You know? I don’t want them to overlook it, I want them to be into it and prefer it. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for lol- for your partner to be into you.

Afraid-Twist4345 · 2025-08-09T20:00:57+00:00

It's because the kind of men in red pill spaces actually project a lot of their own behavior onto women. The truth is, THEY want the "best" women but they know the "best" women wouldn't even look in their direction. The best part is, I don't think they're even truly attracted to the "best" women. It's because they want to pull the "best" possible woman to make other men jealous because deep down they know how awful they are, and they know that's the real reason they've always been excluded.

Picture this. You are a young boy with a misogynistic, angry father that sadistically rips apart your self worth every day to make himself feel powerful and a mother who doesn't know what else to do so she coddles you, or maybe your mother is also cruel. You go to school and act like a jerk because A) that's all you've been taught at home and B) your father and possibly your mother have raised you to believe that you are entitled and to dominate and you are superior simply because you are a man. This obviously pushes a lot of people away because maybe you don't take showers and you kind of smell bad, maybe you don't make much of an effort to be received well, maybe you aren't dressed like the others and wear glasses and have interests others don't understand. So naturally but unfortunately, you are rejected. Constantly. So you develop a need to make other men jealous. To make other men think you're more "high value" than you know deep down you are. One way you insist on doing this is having a beautiful woman to reaffirm to yourself and other men that you are a catch when you know deep down that you are not a catch.

Wanna take a guess how many times I've seen similar scenarios play out?

Blake918740 · 2025-04-14T21:46:23+00:00

Hypergamy, as the word is used in the modern era, is just such an obvious fact that it doesn't even really need to be talked about. Literally everyone already knows that having a good career, good looks, status and swagger will make you more attractive. And literally everyone already knows that breakups happen and usually the one breaking up has found something "better."

It's not a question of is the RP right or wrong about hypergamy. It's a question of why do they think it's some sort of secret knowledge.

Ogwalker7 · 2025-04-10T15:34:49+00:00

I'm tired of being height shamed online Million like trends Degraded and being belittled

Then they wanna tell us its cuz if a forum

Sufficient_Ferret367 · 2025-04-08T04:32:17+00:00

Hypergamy women but they can rewired through nurture, hypergamy is no fixated

Title	I don’t get their outrage on Hypergamy
Author	octave120
Upvotes	72
Comments	57
Date	April 7, 2025 11:13 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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