Toxic masculinity is supported and even glorified when women enact it.

Gravel_Roads · 2025-05-22T13:29:06+00:00

Can you give an example of what behavior these women are doing?

Just acting butch isn’t toxic, just like acting masculine isn’t toxic.

Are these women repressing their emotions? And they getting in fistfights to prove something? Do they punch walls and rev their engines on street corners?

p_fulga · 2025-05-22T13:22:43+00:00

Do you have more specific examples? I'm bi. I've dated within and spent plenty of time inside lesbian communities and generally most behaviours that mimicked stuff people consider toxic masculinity were also pretty ridiculed around there. I know it happens and some gals liked it, more put up with toxicity because of the limited dating pool in their area, but on average it held some strong disdain.

kartu3 · 2025-05-22T13:23:15+00:00

OP is chaotic and fails to provide arguments to support the claim.

Zabadoodude · 2025-05-22T17:11:30+00:00

I'm pretty sure the women that prefer lesbians with masculine personalities over men are just attracted to women. There's plenty straight women that love masculine men.

floracalendula · 2025-05-22T13:39:33+00:00

[gets out soapbox]

Straight people NEED to stop trying to apply heteronormative gender roles to queer relationships. Queer relationship dynamics are different. Go read "Stone Butch Blues" if you want half a clue about butches.

Fearless-Addition537 · 2025-05-22T13:52:18+00:00

Also when you say studs are they black ? Cause if they aren’t they’re butch ..

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-05-22T14:12:59+00:00

It’s glorified when men do it too, just in different contexts

MasculismForEquality · 2025-05-25T08:08:30+00:00

Toxic masculinity is when the action doesn't benefit women

Kreeps_United · 2025-05-23T03:05:30+00:00

The modern view of toxic masculinity is inconsistent if not totally incoherent, so you'll see a lot of that. Originally, toxic masculinity wasn't something men do so much as something done to men.

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United_Iron369 · 2025-05-24T00:08:09+00:00

Women accept toxic masculinity when it benefits them.

maxmillius_chaddicus · 2025-05-25T00:21:29+00:00

The issue is most attractive men follow toxic masculinity to some degree. No one believes they are. It's like the halo effect in action

LumpyAbbreviations24 · 2025-05-26T20:29:11+00:00

Women are the upholders of the patriarchy

icxcnika1 · 2025-05-22T14:13:54+00:00

It's all nonsense anyway. Women complain about toxic masculinity but in reality they seek exactly those attributes in a man

Title	Toxic masculinity is supported and even glorified when women enact it.
Author	Intellig3nt_Act
Upvotes	69
Comments	66
Date	May 22, 2025 1:15 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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