Red pillers don't understand the "female gaze" at all

Clean-Luck6428 · 2025-05-31T18:41:01+00:00

I like Keira’s videos but she lost me when says that women bring sexual energy and men bring “relationship” energy. I think it’s contradicting herself to say that in one breath then in another say that women can either manipulate men with their appearance or they are dressing for themselves.

Women attract and men act. Men bring sexual energy and women receive sexual energy.

I think she is a little young and naive and tends to think how women can use looks to manipulate men when in reality you’ll learn that if you use your looks to “manipulate” men then you’ll often attract the wrong people who are smarter than you think and will end up using you.

I think this is why Keira is a “slut shamer” and opposed to high body counts because she views that as women exhausting their social power over men all the while she is still bewitched by the illusion that women can use their sexuality to acquire authentic relationships when you just get simps and sugar daddies.

Anyway, the redpill attachment to hypermasculinity is overblown. Hypermasculinity is much more promoted in gay male communities (bears) and in Eastern European societies (admittedly there is a connection between Slavic culture and redpill ideology. Given that most redpilled men are nonwhite, Slavic identities often are elevated in redpill communities as a projection of their internalized racism).

Redpill is more into traditional masculinity than hypermasculinity

ReasonConfident4541 · 2025-05-31T23:11:18+00:00

A wise man once told me Watch how a woman acts not what she says These vidoes are kinda pointless A women can say all these things and then she is infront of a 6 ft 2 giga chad or high status rich guy and she acts l Iike a feminine teenage girl giggling and playing with her hair

TheRedPillRipper · 2025-05-31T19:37:40+00:00

Red pillers don’t understand the “female gaze”

TRP at its core is simple; lift, make bank and hone social skill. This may not help one better understand the female gaze, but it will better dating and relationship outcomes. Which is the point of sexual strategy. It’s that simple.

OMWSpuds · 2025-06-01T00:59:59+00:00

When women say they want or like femininity in their men it just means they want a chad with good skin and stylish hair or dress.

At most, he's a bit more compact/skinny, and also younger. Unless you're talking about terminally online blackpill types who obsess over dimorphism the male and female gaze are not that different if at all. Btw you'll see hordes of young women over at places like vindicta absolutely obsessed with hyperfemininity but no one says they have male gaze.

jamalzia · 2025-05-31T18:28:33+00:00

The male-gaze tends to admire HYPER-feminine/masculine traits in men and women? What is an example of a hyper-feminine/masculine trait?

Idk how well red pillers do or don't understand either of these gazes, but I think most people don't seem to understand it that well. The "male-gaze" is typically meant as that which generally captures a male audience. For example, a ton of anime caters to males, and a specific kind of man.

Romance novels cater to women. If we compare and contrast what appeals to either men and women, aka the male/female gaze, neither are particularly complicated lol, they're just slightly different and appeal to the different audiences for different reasons.

Also I'm not watching a couple ten minute videos that make your argument for you. You're supposed to make the argument, and right now all you've done is make a pretty loose claim, that red pillers don't understand the female gaze, it's more complicated than the male gaze, and they self project... or something.

HTML_Novice · 2025-05-31T18:44:57+00:00

Men’s attraction mechanisms are rigid, we like women, how their bodies are, we want to see them, and women that lean into femininity as hard as possible are just more attractive.

Women’s attraction mechanisms are much more malleable as they’re based on status. What determines status is extremely relative to the culture they belong to. Whatever other women want, they want, it’s a chicken and egg self perpetuating system. This is why women can want wildly different things, while men all just like the same easy to define traits.

Trancetastic16 · 2025-05-31T20:43:42+00:00

Male and female gaze are both cultural and biologically influenced, with some aspects having extra wide appeal due to being found to be cross-cultural according to research.

Redpill is just a set of interpretations of the existing cultural beauty norms within their society, particularly the US and other western nations.

I do believe that women’s tastes can be varied depending on other factors (shared race, facial features, etc.) but there are certainly popular women gazes within western societies that in 2025 are more hypergamy-inflated, including the existing appealing aspects of masculinity that have existed in our genes since the dawn of our species.

Research is still in it’s infancy and plenty of specific research can’t be done due to controversy within Academia, but every pill has some aspects of truth to it based on accurate anecdotal and statistical studies.

The male gaze tend to admire hyper feminine traits in women and hyper masculine traits in men. For women, it's a balance of both

Do you have any more detailed sources on this? The only thing even close I can recall is that studies show gay male “bottoms” tend to prefer larger penis sizes.

MichaelsAltMan · 2025-06-02T21:22:42+00:00

What am I supposed to get from this? Don't go bald?

Reasonable_Style8214 · 2025-05-31T20:26:49+00:00

Redpillers are indeed not very knowledgeable on the matter. But the guys that ran chadfish experiments know their shit.

DiligentRope · 2025-05-31T21:51:32+00:00

TRP doesn't fixate on masculine vs hyper masculine traits, this is more so bl4ck p1ll, cellphone, and l00ksmaxx communities. TRP says men should maximize wealth status and physique in general as much as they can, and then focus on game to get women.
What women SAY, is irrelevant. What matters is their behaviour. TRP analyzes and explains this, the RP community uses this info to their advantage. TRP works in getting women. If it works, then its irrelevant whether or not men truly understand female gaze or not.
Research has shown that women have a dual mating strategy, and that for short term mating they prefer different traits to when they are looking for long term mating partners. The mainstream RP's are looking for short term mating, which is likely where women prefer more superficial and hypermasculine traits

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DellOptiplex7080 · 2025-06-01T15:35:19+00:00

female gaze

Stop using terms you don't understand. The male gaze is in reference to film.

HolyCopeAmoly · 2025-06-02T15:56:11+00:00

Something that confuses me about this video is when describing the male gaze, she uses the example of herself; how she's currently dressed with the shoulders exposed, yet I've seen her other gym shorts she's like 90 pounds soaking wet and a day away from medically anorexic... what assets is she even showing off? If you covered her head and showed someone a picture from the torso up you wouldn't even be able to tell if it was a woman or twinky man lol. I feel like some woman go overboard about the male gaze, she has a decently cute face but let's not kid ourselves and say she has anything remotely close to curves.

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