How to deal with men using physical force and threats of violence to cockblock you:

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TeachMePersuasion · 2025-07-12T19:32:55+00:00

As I understand (not field-tested, but told to me) the best thing you can do is not to escalate force.

If someone puts his hands on you, respond accordingly, but if it's not at that level, just play it off as friendly.

It's hard to be pissed off at someone who's playing friendly (not cowardly, not appeasing, but friendly), and if he's among others, either they'll back him up (in which case you need to leave immediately) or they'll calm him down, and he ends up looking like an asshole.

Does that sound right?

CompletelyPresent · 2025-07-12T20:01:41+00:00

Men will ABSOLUTRLY KILL you if they think you're a threat to their chances of getting laid.

Just saw a vid on Atlantology sub where a guy briefly talked to a woman, she got back in her car, and her bf shot the guy dead.

I'd say AVOID the violent dudes, not out of cowardice, but because the baggage is a net negative.

Like you said, they're dumb, and would love to use violence.

Rebel-Alliance · 2025-07-12T20:37:04+00:00

This should not be happening repeatedly. That is not normal. You need to introspect on why it has happened so often that you’re sick of it.

ironjawn · 2025-07-12T20:40:32+00:00

This is a classic situation and you’re not alone in getting frustrated about it. But the thing to understand is this: men have always been gatekeepers to access to women. When another man steps in and makes it even potentially violent - even with just a shove or a threat - the entire vibe for her is ruined. She immediately goes into defensive mode, even if she liked you before.

No woman wants to choose between two guys about to fight, especially at a rave or party where she just wants fun. That’s why these confrontations almost always kill your chances - even if you “win” them.

Here’s the real skill: avoid these conflicts altogether by reading the room better. When you see there’s another guy with history or claim (even if he’s a asshole), you don’t need to back down like a coward - but you can sidestep the situation by staying calm, social, and non-reactive.

The highest social and emotional IQ move is to be respectful of everyone - even the guys acting alpha. You don’t have to be submissive, but you can maintain a chill, fun vibe that defuses things. Befriending or at least neutralizing these dudes is often the best approach.

If you want to consistently avoid being “cockblocked with force,” then cultivate a social presence that prevents this kind of escalation in the first place. That’s the real art.

I get why you’re angry - it feels like you’re being pushed around while you’re the one with training. But real power isn’t about fighting every challenge. It’s about managing the entire social frame so you don’t have to.

iLikeAza · 2025-07-12T21:36:22+00:00

Bro you gotta stop as soon as you mentioned the gun. None of this is worth pulling a piece out or even getting your ass kicked. Not every girl at a rave is looking for a hook up. If they have violent exs then you both are at risk for violence. Stand up for yourself but focus on deescalation & if needed move on. It’s not worth it

NuKidOnThBlokchyn · 2025-07-12T20:29:13+00:00

Pussy isn’t worth it.

Just be extremely calm and back away, leave them to it.

If the girls weren’t into that and they were interested in you, then they’ll find their way back to you. Best way to win 100% of fights is not to get involved in them.

roakus8 · 2025-07-12T20:22:42+00:00

I always try to deescalate the situation and read the room. I was in las vegas last summer waiting in line to get into a club and these gorgeous Australian girl started chatting me up and my friend she was being extremely flirty, touching me, trying to hold my hands, resting her head on my body and even got close enough for me to kiss her and then I saw a forced steaming smile behind her from some giant Australian rugby looking player.

Turned out that was her fiance, luckily before i made a move I asked her who she was here with and that's when i introduced myself to him and started talking with him. They have kids and are set to be married soon and he puts his arm on shoulder and goes for a subtle hard squeeze lol his chick still not giving a fuck is still on me and i just relocate and let them be. Half an hour later, her dude is getting jumped by security after he decked one of them and hes being manhandled and put into cuffs. She was hot but not worth a beat down. Gl.

xoexohexox · 2025-07-12T21:13:29+00:00

Just walk away. Getting laid isn't worth getting killed or put in jail.

Matter_Still · 2025-07-12T20:13:15+00:00

You are a bad headline waiting to be written; a gun, knife, rage, and increasing indifference to the potential dire consequences of your actions. You have a choice: get pushed around from time-to-time on the outside, or have to eat shit daily on the inside; being threatened by a guy who gets pissed off at a mate poacher, or having your throat cut in the shower of a medium security prison.

It doesn't seem like a tough choice.

Ill_Mouse_3940 · 2025-07-12T21:02:00+00:00

You see, it's not violence that men are afraid of, it's the threat of it. From what I understand, you lack confidence in your skills. I'm not even as trained as you are and I have walked out of major escalations unharmed, why? Because I carry the attitude of a guy who can cause serious harm without looking desperate to pick a fight.

So in your case, let's say you walk up to a girl and while talking, his ex pushes you off, you first have to get into a confrontation which is disguised as a friendly conversation. Eg: "Hey, you wouldn't like it if I laid hands on you like that" or "I didn't know we were competing" or "I thought she dumped you". At this stage, you will see who he is for real (a dick imo, men don't do this). If he instigates a fight, you know it's a mutually assured destruction so fighting here isn't actually worth it. But you don't wanna lose aura either, so you turn to the woman and ask her who she wants to leave with (because if she says you, then you can ef him up). If it's not you, just move the fuck on (ik boy it's difficult but you'll get there trust me).

The other scenario is always win win because smart men recognise that you have the power to wreck them so the only thing you need to do is subtly tell them you can do something serious. Don't be a cocky person, just chill the f out. Think about it for a minute, should you be this confused that you seek reddit when you can literally do something serious with someone stupid? Go out into the world without fear, we all die one day anyway, so pursue interests without fear.

Also, violence is ALWAYS the lastest last option, so do not be afraid to confront directly and argue or even throw insults, because at the end of the day, if he resorts to violence, you can do it better. Do not fear your fears.

cons_ssj · 2025-07-12T20:57:16+00:00

So how did the girls that were flirting with you react? I am sure they know that are not property and should have a word with whom they can date/like.

Imagine this scenario: you beat the guy unconscious. What will you gain? The girl? I doubt so after beating up a person in public. You will end up in trouble.

Imho the most suitable person to resolve the situation is the girl of interest, except if she enjoys people fighting over her. I am not even sure if you beat the other person that she will be on your side in the court. If a girl can accept such a behavior from her friend or her ex and has no boundaries to stop him, be very careful! You do well that you de-escalate!

norwegiandoggo · 2025-07-12T20:58:45+00:00

Take a step back and ask why you're so angry. Take a chill pill - it's not that serious. There is an abundance of women available. Avoid assholes - and don't become one. You'll still get plenty of women if you play the game right.

Letting others rile you up shows a lack of emotional composure and maturity on your part. It actually makes you seem weaker. It's never the way. Stay smart and don't become a caveman.

Candick6969 · 2025-07-12T21:21:21+00:00

Tbh it's part of life. The strongest men throughout the history of mankind, did not become or were able to achieve greatness cause they got fair fights or the system was with them?.

I feel it's about walking on razor's edge all the while being calm and aware enough to chose your battles wisely.

In your case, maybe look into the reason why you end up finding such women who have an experience hovering around? Maybe there is a pattern here which requires you to take a step back, reanalyse and heal and see what changes

COMPEWTER_adminisp · 2025-07-12T21:36:37+00:00

how in the world you get into a situation where the the ex of the girl is in the place as well lmao, let her go find too many options out there lol and try to avoid those situations again.

bigmanJ28 · 2025-07-12T20:20:50+00:00

ngl i didn’t read it all. But if he tried that in front of girls 1. They will see him as an ick 2. That’s just lame asl never worth fighting over some girl 3. Let him have it you clearly had experience in combat sports based off context.

shlomobo · 2025-07-12T21:02:07+00:00

Women with ex boyfriends like this are never worth the drama. The ex will constantly be a topic. Often those women go on entertaining the drama of their ex boyfriends and it‘s a huge red flag.

And you seriously wanna kill a guy because of a woman? That sounds really desperate. I don‘t know where you live but carrying a knife at an event and having a gun in your car sounds very unhealthy. You seem to have the same energy like those crazy ex boyfriends. Maybe that‘s why you „attract“ them.

Beginning-Pass-3243 · 2025-07-12T21:48:34+00:00

Well with knife and firearm there is tto high of percentage of death. But physical is different because if your as trained as you say you are then you know how to hurt someone without permanent damage. Just remember if that was the first time meeting that chick she may have been lying and looking to make him jealous so then when you drop him would cause her to jump in to protect him.

SeaweedAshamed6899 · 2025-07-12T22:55:57+00:00

All the comments here are great. You seem to be looking a way which suits your style.

Making a very good first impression seems to be the way for me. So that the people around and when you look back in your memory you will know who was the better man.

Don't account the opinion of the girl too significantly. As some find fun when two guys are clowning over her. To the point they help escalate. It's better to have self respect then.

TrendyLepomis · 2025-07-12T23:05:37+00:00

you are right to leave the situation. No one wins in a fight. Id say you use your skills if people are getting hurt. Like if he laid his hands on her that would he cause for me to use force (but dont shoot up the place).

all in all girls arent worthy dying for if you just met them.

BackgroundTime8298 · 2025-07-12T23:16:58+00:00

Dude you ain’t gonna do an ODB move of 180 a gun from him to your hands and then shoot it up the air, and get the girl. It ain’t worthy the risk, and even if you won you think she will sleep with you?

jamesfalken · 2025-07-12T23:54:45+00:00

No sane person is going to tell you it’s a good idea to stab or shoot someone because they stepped to you over a girl in the club.

I would say find better venues where the men aren’t so aggressive and looking to fight. Also probably do a better job selecting women. If you are talking to some bimbo who is telling you about her shitbag ex, have some standards and next her. Pick classier women who aren’t going to drag you into drama because she’s there with some friend group that involves scummy men.

OrlandoLasso · 2025-07-13T00:32:12+00:00

Go somewhere where alcohol isn't involed.

KingRemu · 2025-07-12T20:42:44+00:00

It seems you attract or are attracted to a certain type if these types of situations keep happening. I've never had to fight off an ex like that.

All I can say is that just stay cool. Those guys are like barking chihuahuas who can't have what they want so they try to keep everyone else from getting it. You're above them. It's good that you know how to defend yourself but don't ever resort to violence.

You could ask the girl if she wants to move away from that spot, maybe the guy will get the hint. Or just leave if it feels like it's not worth it.

StopElectingWealthy · 2025-07-12T20:44:26+00:00

Get jacked. Walk with your head up high. Your size and demeanor determine someone’s willingness to test/bully/confront you.

Gym. Now.

-DavidATS · 2025-07-12T20:48:10+00:00

You’re a total pussy, someone tells you he’ll kick your ass and you’re already thinking about stabbing and shooting him? Women can discern a confident man from a coward, maybe that’s why you don’t get laid

JackSquirts · 2025-07-12T22:56:21+00:00

God damn this has Taxi Driver written all over it.

You're overconfident in your training just like this dude was with his. Odds are, you both fucking suck at fighting. People who actually get good, don't have this nagging sense of something to prove. They damn sure don't start running through scenarios in which they have to pull out a knife or go to their car and grab their gun cause they encounter some blowhard asshole.

And no piece of ass is worth getting into a bar fight over - ever. Google "demetrious johnson nice tits" for how you handle yourself when someone says some shit about YOUR girl, let alone some random chick playing games with her ex-boyfriend at your expense.

Beginning-Pass-3243 · 2025-07-12T21:57:45+00:00

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Intelligent-Dingo-64 · 2025-07-12T22:39:28+00:00

I see it as a smart decision, I will not risk jail for a girl I just met , specially if my goal is only pussy , if I am meeting somebody to build connection and her ex break in ,and ik the girl in my side I will kick his ass ,but the girl may chose her ex if he get beaten

splittingxheadache · 2025-07-12T23:52:52+00:00

I carry, so I’d just send him to Jesus if he jumped stupid. But this type of shit is not worth it if this is just a girl with no commitment to you. If she’s cool with that, you’re so much better off without her you have no idea.

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-07-13T00:18:27+00:00

Contact police and management at the establishment to get that person banned from coming back. Keep witnesses around to attest to what happened. Also ask if the place has cctv recordings when it's at a place of business as they may have security cameras.

hevermind · 2025-07-13T01:14:34+00:00

read a book called Violence of Mind

Byzanter · 2025-07-13T02:25:30+00:00

Always be the more reasonable person, there are plenty of fish in the pond. Don't bother with someone who is already taken.

Stujitsu2 · 2025-07-12T20:52:13+00:00

I would just look at the girl and say...you didn't tell me you had a boyfriend. If she says...He is not my bf. Then look at him an say oh I guess you should fuck off then before I press charges.

QuickMidnight2141 · 2025-07-12T20:57:47+00:00

Pushups, Pull-ups, Dips

strokes383 · 2025-07-12T20:04:52+00:00

Dont get involved with crazy?

NChSh · 2025-07-12T20:26:54+00:00

I mean were you in a big crowd of people? Just tell him to go find a new girl this one is his ex and he's just going to stick around forever? He's going to punch you maybe once or twice with your guard up around a million people it won't do much and you can probably get him kicked out after that and you'll look good to the girl. Don't fucking use a weapon that's pussy shit

Title	How to deal with men using physical force and threats of violence to cockblock you:
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Date	July 12, 2025 7:25 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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