What this all boils down to. Read this.

smokingmonkey420 · 2014-06-25T09:09:52+00:00

I think the thing that draws me back every day is the constant reinforcement of TRP mindset in each post. Most of us have been raised BP and have been indoctrinated to believe and behave in such a manner. It takes a lot of time, unlearning, and relearning each and every day for me to get this down. Most of the time reading a post, I'm able to come away with a RP nugget of wisdom.

NakedAndBehindYou · 2014-06-25T08:01:38+00:00

The reason this subreddit bitches so much about feminism is because there really isn't much else to talk about on a daily basis. Everything that can be done to improve your SMV has already been said here: lift weights, become more successful, dress better, act more confident and outgoing, learn game, etc.

Occasionally someone comes along with a groundbreaking post but that only happens once in awhile.

XCowboyLowkesx · 2014-06-25T08:27:37+00:00

You know I've been hearing a lot lately that you should read more non fiction. I think it's going a bit extreme lately. You should read all types of books. Fiction and non fiction. Brothers karomozov and the other great novels come to mind. Reading strictly nonfiction is just as bad as reading strictly fiction

cheeky--kunt · 2014-06-25T07:23:36+00:00

I agree with lifting, eating, reading. It is part that you can change instantly. you can put one more pushup daily, you can say to yourself "stop with this type of food" and not eat it, .. you have the idea. willpower.

Just thinking: if actually just getting raise at work was that easy, or just matter of saying "hey boss I need raise because I am doing awesome work, you know it and you can afford it" nobody would complain here. I see this as problem of bigger scale. In my previous job, I was replaceable. No matter how good work I was doing (and me and boss knew it), I coudlnt just walk to him and ask for raise, because then other people would ask for raise too.

what is better? having group of unhappy employees demanding raise or kicking them out and hire new group of people happy with the actual salary? thats why we got kicked out.

So, by saying to people "oh get a better job" your advice has zero impact or any value. Every one of us knows they want better xyz, they are struggling to achieve it, but geting better at xyz is not a matter of switch or on/off button. Everything done takes time, will, determination and sweat.

if you want to give advice, offer something that worked for you and is a long term process. example: - learn new language online. You can then put it in your CV that you know basics of ... german,french,portugal,.. - take this lifting routine, I have done it for three months and look at my progress - here are the results, etc..

2014-06-25T16:33:11+00:00

When it comes to fitness, people on this sub are too obssesed with lifting. Yes i said it, too obssesed with lifting. This is coming from a guy who's lifting since high school, is in the 1000 club and lifts 3 a week. Lifting is good, but there's more to physical fitness than that. I find it's more rewarding to do things that are dynamic, dangerous, require teamwork and creativity and provide a wide aray of challenges. Lifting is challenging but the lifter is in total control, that's probably part of the reason we like it. You need to do things that are more unpredictable like MMA, Boxing, team sports, outdoorsman stuff like hunting, fishing, hiking, mountain biking ect.

As for earning more. I used to be concerned with earning more, part of it I think was compensation. Like earning more was going to increase my value as a member of society, maybe this was caused by some social programming, trying to get people to think they need to earn more making them more productive when they really don't. I've cut a lot of the things i don't need out of my life and now only concern myself with making enough to support myself, now i'm more concerned with my freedom than with what i earn. Though i can totally understand why some people would want to earn as much as possible.

Reading nonfiction is good too but don't get to obssesed with it. To gain real wisdom you need to apply and observe what you read in real life.

Isaiah4verse1 · 2014-06-25T14:14:23+00:00

I think all the posts here are helpful. Nothing drives the true nature of the female home than a brute force attack on the illusions. It is important for those who have not taken the "red pill" to be exposed to how universal their behaviour is.

"The attention were giving it is just feeding into their agenda" I disagree, the attention we give to it is crippling their agenda. The PHLEGMinists are going insane. They are over-reaching. This type of behaviour always precedes blowback and revolt. This blowback cannot be achieved by ignoring them. Cockroaches scatter when exposed to light.

"Lift weights. Improve your diet. Read nonfiction. Make more money." These are trivial things. There is more to life than staring at a mirror or bank statement. Just live.

"be the bigger man" Yes, acceptance of phlegminist behaviour is key. We should strive, however, to be the bigger HUMAN first and foremost.

"And if they are getting to you, do a little self interrogation," Stop right there. This is a characteristic feminist talking point. What you are saying is we have no right to be angered (a legitimate emotion) and that if we are troubled by such unfairness it is our fault. Everyone is troubled by unfairness. Building muscle, increasing income, reading books will not change this natural reaction to disillusionment. It will pass.

"So quit bitching" Feminist shame tactic of "Man up!". Having a penis doesn't rob a man of the right to complain. Irony: You are complaining about complainers.

JohnGalt316 · 2014-06-25T06:33:06+00:00

lol you forgot the most important and difficult part ... fix your personality

as long as you keep crying victim, not hold anyone accountable for their actions, and stay insecure you won't progress

that is why most alphas are conservative

when you hold people accountable for their actions, all the victim cries of the poor/gays/blacks/females become absurd

jabbatzui · 2014-06-25T09:17:59+00:00

This is simply due to the amount of new members in this sub. Almost have of the people here have only been around for a very short time. Of course they are still in the phase of anger and rant. The sub as whole is growing but just has not yet grown out of that. As long as the experienced guys around don't disappear, that's ok.

circlhat · 2014-06-25T14:13:33+00:00

I made tons of money, was raised on a good diet, and lifted weights and still couldn't get girls. You make it seem as if guys only problem is they are unattractive. This is not the case attitude and passing shit tests matter.

SELF IMPROVEMENT!

That is not the goal of the sub at all, please read the side bar

I see is a place for betaboys to complain about how some woman is or is trying to ruin their lives.

This is the type of attitude that makes it so hard for mens right movement to succeed. It is also why feminist succeeds, If someone is doing something wrong we should complain

TooMuchToDoo · 2014-06-25T12:50:10+00:00

I'd like to argue here that reading fiction isn't all that bad. In fact, I myself have problems just jumping into a nonfiction book--even one that I'm deeply interested in. Reading a good fiction piece gets me in the zone to start reading other material, like a springboard to jump-start whatever partition of my brain is responsible for text comprehension. Otherwise I just zone out and my mind gets really foggy, eventually leading to me falling asleep.

All that aside, we could use more non-fiction in our reading diets.

drowninginfootwear · 2014-06-25T14:07:38+00:00

The true red pill is when you stop needing to come here. There is truth and good advice in this subreddit but at the end of the day it's just another goofy little echo chamber.

This subreddit will always be a place for beginners. Once you've internalized what you need to, you're better off not letting it take up your time.

zephyrprime · 2014-06-25T14:31:14+00:00

Honestly, I don't think the goal was ever self improvement but revelation of the truth about women. The problem with self improvement is that it only solves individual problems while not solving the whole problem. Also, why is the burden entirely on men to improve? Why don't women have to do shit? It's just not fair that entire burden falls on men. Just improving yourself without fighting back is accepting your place as a punching bag. I don't think redpill is primarily about improving yourself. PUA focuses a lot more on the actually practical steps needed to improve your game and the inner game work. RedPill is more about knowledge and MRA is more about the men's rights social movement.

And also, I think people overestimate how far self improvement will take you. I was already super smart, read of ton of nonfiction since childhood, making $$$, and slim (but admitted buff) even before I ever heard of red pill and I was still an AFC chump that was no where close to being able to handle women. I've started to lift now but it's pure fantasy to think that just because I put on 20lbs of muscle women are going to start chasing me and not giving me bs whereas before I wasn't even on their radar. Women will always give you BS no matter how rich or how fit you are. Look at the BS celebrity guys still get from women.

The one thing I will agree on is that there is too much butthurt and whining here. A lot of times, guys post junk that is blown out of proportion and not a true example of female privilege.

2014-06-25T16:14:23+00:00

All I see is a place for betaboys

In my experience any time I see a post by a brand new account calling people betas and telling everyone here to stop bashing feminists... it's a bluepill shill.

I feel like we need to leave to whole alpha/beta thing at the door.

Self-improvement is great but quit trying to infiltrate and redecorate. Lookin like a broad over there.

ChauvOtoo · 2014-06-25T07:41:22+00:00

These "my simple summary of TRP" posts are just as common as everything you cited.

the99percent1 · 2014-06-25T10:52:18+00:00

/r/Alreadyred, a new subreddit for those who want to continually improve themselves.

Signal to noise ratio is good. Finally a sub that I can enjoy.

6TLaRm4g · 2014-06-25T08:27:19+00:00

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eccentricrealist · 2014-06-25T07:07:05+00:00

I think it seems like a bunch of betaboys complaining because they're the louder ones, just like people tend to notice extremists anywhere else. Once they've changed they'll stop complaining, but we're always getting newcomers and they have to be guided time and time again.

tomtom65 · 2014-06-25T14:41:14+00:00

Golden.

Given that many posts here are lessons learned from bad experiences with women, we will forget that it's truly about ourselves.

Also, I can't stress enough how important it is to fortify our mentality. If others can't shake you, you know you've reached a good level of self-development.

Great post my friend.

millionexplodingsuns · 2014-06-25T14:45:00+00:00

http://nancyappleton.com/141-reasons-sugar-ruins-your-health/

jsl2837 · 2014-06-25T16:51:54+00:00

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What is this?

IRiseFromTheAshes · 2014-06-25T08:29:45+00:00

I agree about lifting weights, improving your diet and making more money, but what's so important about reading nonfiction? Yes, knowledge is important, but chick don't want to date a guy who is book smart, they want to date a guy that is manly. Pragmatically speaking, wouldn't you be better off devotion that reading time towards learning a social hobby like dance, playing the guitar, etc...?

Kardlonoc · 2014-06-25T11:27:07+00:00

What women and humans want is value. Not necessarily money but it plays a big part, but generally what can you as a person provide to others.

It would be a bit long to get into but many Redpill strategies offer up a refreshing take on male to female dynamics, that some females dig. Other do not.

But really, how its described on this thread is red pill men acknowledging they have value, sometimes too much, and blue pill men undervaluing their value, or are spot on. A white knight syndrome is the idea is providing a woman with protection when the reality is she doesn't need any, the cops exist for that. Nice Guys, actually want to suck the value out of women rather than provide value.

Anyways, if you were in the desert, and it was you and the most feminist woman on the planet, and she was dying from thirst and you had a bottle of water. She would say "thank you" for handing that water over, but obviously you could get more from this bottle of water, and you don't have to hand over the entire bottle.

Women, sort of collude with each other culturally to make it believe that they have value and men fall into that trap. Like there are less men in the world. Once you realize that they don't have any higher value than a man, the world opens up.

Geocan001 · 2014-06-25T06:44:56+00:00

....and chase shit you like doing.

lloopy · 2014-06-25T13:11:43+00:00

There's plenty of anecdotes that add to the repertoire of a well-prepared alpha.

Different shit tests, different field reports, different traps. Sometimes I read something once or twice, and it doesn't ring true, but then I read the same concept in a different situation and then it clicks.

Endevour · 2014-06-25T13:52:05+00:00

Wasn't there a TRP books subreddit somewhere?

chakravanti93 · 2014-06-25T14:08:32+00:00

I feel like everyday I'm on here(lurker) it becomes more redundant. The same feminist woman problems over and over again from different perspectives.

None of us are really so different. TRP is here because these problems are so similar yet the people have them consistantly believe their problem is unique.

New people, same message. This place isn't redundant, it simply regards a truth of life and humanity older than anyone present so it will never change, only the member that make up.the body will.

PozPartyAnimal · 2014-06-25T15:01:12+00:00

I can lift weights till the cows come home and my arms and legs stay skinny but my torso is solid. Lifting doesn't work for everyone.

Totsean · 2014-06-25T15:12:48+00:00

Lift weights. Improve your diet. Read nonfiction. Make more money.

^Pretty much working towards it.

otiswild · 2014-06-25T15:33:52+00:00

Make more money, pay less tax.

Because if you make more money and pay more tax, you're just giving the enemy more ammunition.

SteelChicken · 2014-06-25T15:43:26+00:00

Want to add one thing...pick an art. I dont care what it is. Martial arts. Playing a musical instrument. Painting. Pour yourself into it. Practice! The self-discovery and willpower you can gain from this, not to mention the increase in "value" is hard to put into words.

writewhereileftoff · 2014-06-25T16:06:11+00:00

Thank you for this post. I too feel like there are two kinds of posters here. I very much prefer to use this forum as place where I can learn & improve myself. This is the good side of TRP and I highly doubt anyone would disagree the betterment of oneself is a negative thing for yourself and your relationship with women.

The other side of TRP is bitching & moaning about women. This is just tiresome and endless but even moreso is no way to handle problems like real men we aspire to be. I understand the "I got dumped by gf posts", I can't sympathise with comments saying all women are sociopaths & sluts.

2014-06-25T08:37:35+00:00

I agree, we have way too many women and manginas in this sub lately.

d3gu · 2014-06-25T09:50:21+00:00

This is some good advice; complacency/apathy with mediocrity is one of the worst things you can do.

PyrrhicIntent · 2014-06-25T11:46:15+00:00

This isn't just what I do, now it's who I am.

Doubt creeps in everyday because I'm still a loser.

But now I know what a loser can do.

Dopamine37 · 2014-06-25T10:14:30+00:00

I bet there is something about >yourself you could improve

Yes there is and I waste my time hating on feminist,

DoesNotMatterAnymore · 2014-06-25T10:48:17+00:00

I think it's a good reminder if we talk about the basics, but sometimes it just feels like a circlejerk! Just like now!

Werkro01 · 2014-06-25T13:34:20+00:00

I was sort of thinking this same thing except my analogy was more along the lines of redefining the game and who the players are. The long and short of it is that as a man you don't have sex with sluts (women on the carousel) instead raise your standards. I tend to find women without any true self worth extremely unattractive.

JGH8763 · 2014-06-25T15:09:40+00:00

Above reading, I would prioritize dressing better, grooming yourself better (major factors when it comes to looks, and looks are king), practicing interacting with women, meditation (optimizes your thoughts, behavior, composure, and thus your interactions with women), and at least a few other things.

Title	What this all boils down to. Read this.
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Comments	129
Date	June 25, 2014 5:29 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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