Women aren't women anymore. So men aren't marrying them.

dreauxx · 2014-07-18T03:27:24+00:00

This article hit right at home man. I decided just last year that marriage and the typical 'status-quo' relationship schemes, are not and never will be a part of my life; for these exact reasons. WHO, in their right mind, is going to sign up for getting bitched at, blamed, and utterly used by this majority of "women" who just HAVE to have this sense of authority. Why put yourself through all of that, when you could live your life to the fullest living for yourself and no one else.

I know there's still good ladies out there. One's who know how fucking stupid this feminist wannabe crusade is...But jesus brother, I don't think the chances of finding a girl like that, nevertheless a girl like that who fits me personally are likely. I've just given up completely with it all, dating as a whole. I have completely accepted that I am okay on my own, free to see who I want, when I want, and to do whatever I want with them. In a way, it's a shame it has to come to that, because I've always imagined myself as someone who could be an outstanding partner and I still can be. But you know what, I don't even fucking want to anymore because of all the girls I've dated and all the bullshit that goes on even with just talking to them. I know I'm not the only one who feels the same, and I thought this article was interesting to read.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-07-17T19:25:29+00:00

A cross section of research data from the Pew Research Center for the last months of 2012 shows the alarming trends for marriage and child-bearing in the US. One report published in mid-December said that the latest census data showed “barely half” of all adults in the United States are currently married, a “record low”. Since 1960, the number of married adults has decreased from 72 percent to 51 today and the number of new marriages in the U.S. declined by five percent between 2009 and 2010.

Moreover, the median age at first marriage continues to rise with women getting married the first time at 26.5 years and men at 28.7. The declines in marriage are “most dramatic” among young adults. Just 20 percent of those aged 18 to 29 are married, compared with 59 percent in 1960.

Which is just evidence that current waves of feminism are corrupt ideologies that promote poverty and crime. Single parent households are THE number one predictor of crime and poverty.

N3vertheless · 2014-07-17T19:07:13+00:00

One reason why the redpill body of though is so interesting to me, other than the fact that the ideas are exciting, is that the truth is corroborated by widely different sources. You would think that the observations of traditionally masculine men who have lots of sex would be at odds with those of the Christian pro-life movement, but they actually agree in principle, if not in application. As an aside, a wonderful place to look for a traditional minded girl from a large family who can't wait to be a wife and a mother is at the March for Life each January in Washington DC. The majority of marchers are under 25, with scads of pretty girls who know that feminism is an ugly joke.

MrRexels · 2014-07-17T23:10:23+00:00

You guys have fun with your fucked up relationships and shitty gender dynamics. I'm just gonna chill here in my third world country where that crap is still miles away.

aazav · 2014-07-18T01:47:06+00:00

Yeah, they are liabilities.

If you've ever lived in California, you'd know a dozen friends who got married, then divorced and their ex wives are collecting alimony while living with their new boyfriend.

I learned my lesson when I bought a house in Texas. The guy I bought it from had bought the house, the boat, the corvette, the his & hers motorcycles and she (his second wife) cheated on him.

He was going bankrupt because of TWO alimony payments. I bought his 3000 square foot house from him for what he owed on it and rented his room back to him for 1/2 the mortgage.

Women are liabilities.

Don't marry. Rent to own. Lease with an option to buy. You'll have favorable upgrade options come her expiration date.

Plus, you retain your advantage.

And your house.

Invalidity · 2014-07-17T20:49:50+00:00

Alpha males see that women are not worth committing to as the investment of resources is much greater from the side of the male. Only beta males and those left in between are left for marriage. Most of those males have become disillusioned by marriage through countless divorces, child support and alimony payments, and the unmet expectations that they held when they were growing up.

So there is your void. Most men are not ready to start a family because they can't hope to maintain the relationship to keep the family unit stable. They only know how to be good providers and caretakers, but not good leaders and lovers, a prerequisite to maintain their partner's attraction.

If you could keep both parents focused on raising the children, families would be easy to develop and maintain, but a man goes into a relationship investing all his efforts and resources to have a child. It is up to the wife to uphold her end of the responsibilities, but she is driven by her feelings and emotions, and will therefore likely make very callous decisions, such as cheating.

2014-07-18T01:29:44+00:00

If my wife gets hit by a bus next week? I'm not getting remarried. Being a beta robbed me of a good life and at my age since it would be inevitable I'm not raising some other assholes kid.

JablesRadio · 2014-07-18T03:51:45+00:00

Men aren't men anymore, either. Through prescription medications given to them as early as kindergarten, and pressure from schools, young boys are forced, and later taught to be docile and as androgynous as possible.

bsutansalt · 2014-07-17T23:38:39+00:00

And of course comments aren't allowed. A simple skimming of Men on Strike would explain why men are forgoing marriage and kids, but we can't let the cat out of the bag else it might piss women off that men have judged them unworthy.

Overkillengine · 2014-07-17T20:54:53+00:00

You get what you reward. Conversely, you don't get what you don't reward.

thetanky · 2014-07-17T22:36:54+00:00

We're going to see the divorce rate come down soon because men are learning the warning signs of a woman with a "give me half your shit" mentality; cock carouseling, nonstop lying, always being "right", being a single mother, being divorced, continuously espouses feminist ideology, demands supplication from men.

Three questions to consider when you're considering wifing a girl:

Is she nice to you/does she do nice things for you?
Is she a virgin?
Does she come from a two parent household or one that espouses traditional values?

3 yeses means you've got a good girl, 2 yeses means your taking a mild to significant risk, 1 yes means you will be very broke and in debt within ten years, 0 yeses means your an idiot for considering that succubus.

When the divorce rate comes down don't forget that what we're talking about is still important, marriage isn't going to be any easier because the divorce rate drops it just means you'll need to be more careful in picking your women because a bunch of dumb bitches are gonna hit the wall fucking hard and start lying about the things that matter to men in a wife so they can get their free ride or kids or white picket fence after they get those things it's gonna be time for you to leave. Right now I'd say it's case to case but hiring a P.I. to research your girl to see if she's cheating, doing illegal shit, has lied to you or is concealing her sexual past is not a bad idea especially if she's been to college, or is over 23 and still claims virginity.

colovick · 2014-07-18T00:09:35+00:00

Monogamy makes perfect sense to me. If you love someone and you enjoy each others company, keep doing it. Keep doing it until you die. But why marriage? What value does being recognized by the church and state have? I've never been able to get an answer that appeals to logic and not emotions. Is there a logical answer? It seems like insecurity is the driving force.

joshw220 · 2014-07-18T02:18:48+00:00

I really don't see the point of marriage if most couples live together as bf/gf and sex is more open these days. I lost my mom to drugs at a young age and was raised in the system, and had my share of stores. I am 30 now and successful, handsome, have no trouble getting girls. The whole double standard of women wanting a strong man, but then if you rise up, defend yourself and maybe even win, you are this horrible person for doing that to a girl.

Gaslov · 2014-07-17T19:24:03+00:00

I'm going to disagree with this assessment. The article mentions women's "sexual revolution" and I think this is the crux of the issue. The bottom line is, on average, what men want from women is sex. To claim otherwise demonstrates a lack of character or a lack of experience. I can get almost any type of social satisfaction better from another guy than I can get from a woman. Like many women, I would much rather hang out with a bunch of guys than a bunch of girls if all I'm doing is hanging out. But there just isn't anything like a woman's body, face, voice, and touch.

But here's the thing: you're a well-off, well groomed, professional. You're something many women want. So why pick one? Why would you want marriage? What do you get out of it? Getting sex probably isn't hard for you and won't be well into your late 40's (vs mid 30's for women), so what value does marriage actually give you?

Because the most important thing you want from a woman is something you can obtain without much commitment, why would you commit?

The church figured this out long ago. The whole "no-sex-before-marriage" stance was actually there to protect women. It was like a union but for women's security. Yes, there is an element of control, but that's what labor laws do, too. But these naïve feminists have completely eroded away this protective price fixing in the name of "liberating" women from the evil control of old religious men. So, thank you feminists, men can now have their cake and eat it too. You can get what you want upfront, without having to payout in the long run.

It may sound callous, but people are assholes and it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that people will take advantage. Yes, people need to be controlled. Women need to be controlled to collectively not give it out as it undercuts the control women have to protect themselves. Am I advocating for women using sex as a bargaining chip? Yes. In this instance, what is bad for men in the short term is actually good for society in the long run. We should be a culture that's about the long run.

textualintercourse · 2014-07-18T03:28:08+00:00

Even if women were 'women' there is still little to no reason to marry anyway. It's still and economic dangerzone and lottery you are saddled with. Not worth the risk at all, in my humble opinion.

Blankworry · 2014-07-18T07:13:20+00:00

I'm living here in Russia and we don't have this problem. Women want to be married, they want to take care of their husbands and they want to have all of those good qualities that make marriage a valuable and desirable thing.

2014-07-18T08:36:30+00:00

I've experienced, seen, and understood enough to decide to never marry. Changing laws doesn't change sexual imperatives and the tradition of men giving women getting what they want and women being unsatisfied about the majority that do. I don't care how alpha or beta I appear to other women, or how feminine, sexual, or kind women around me are. I don't care if every law is changed to reflect the most egalitarian society in history. Marriage is a pointless, antique ceremony and generally, a historical enslavement of men that serves women. I'm not intentionally trying to ostracize the already married men on here and I think they are wise to use game to ensure something bad doesn't happen to them. I won't even go to family weddings anymore, I have little time for society's bullshit, and "ceremony" is a subcategory.

aazav · 2014-07-18T01:55:30+00:00

Spot on.

Men are tired. Yep. Feminism ~~lats~~ lets women feel OK to be angry, self righteous, self centered bitches, constantly blaming others for their own unhappiness - and men are tired of it and baffled why they think this is OK.

gprime312 · 2014-07-18T03:10:51+00:00

Anyone else read the next article on a woman's son discovering pornography? I'm not too sure how to feel about it.

DarkCircle · 2014-07-18T11:50:24+00:00

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997.

Translation: I am going to ride the carousel REALLY hard and when I stop (get kicked off) I will need someone to support me.

raceAround126 · 2014-07-18T11:58:30+00:00

This sentiment is so succinct, I don't think I could phrase it better..

Women are raised to rely wholly on a feminized society where they always win. No matter what. Anything they don't outright won is suddenly a taboo topic, e.g. pay gaps.

When it comes to relationships, they are already completely brainwashed that they are entitled and, moreover, excused of any and all wrong doing.

It doesn't piss me off though. If they feel empowered by me Fucking then, then yay feminism. Just don't expect a ring!

2014-07-17T21:11:36+00:00

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RS73 · 2014-07-17T23:19:14+00:00

Can we not link to fucking FOX "news"? I get that it’s the one cable media outlet ostensibly not eaten by feminism, but is right wing trickle down economy alarmist click bait insidiously masquerading as a legit news source designed for the credulous really the best alternative we have?

Hokuto199x · 2014-07-17T18:44:57+00:00

That site is mainly just "pro life" religious propaganda. The times where their views intersect with reality are coincidence.

They do "undercover stings" of planned parenthood centers where they're doing nothing more than honestly answering the questions people have about sex, contraception, and abortion.

Since lifesitenews is against sexual truth, I'd say don't give them the traffic.

TankVet · 2014-07-18T01:26:07+00:00

It's really just sad. I wish they were wrong or mistaken or somehow their conclusion was fallacious. But it's true and it's sad.

PornTrollio · 2014-07-18T06:04:18+00:00

"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"

Also the lack of marrying men has been a problem in the black community for a while. (Different reasons, but basically the problem is good men have such a glut of good women that they have no incentive to marry one.) It is a microcosm that also involves predominantly single parent familes and is worth cross-referencing.

nebojssha · 2014-07-17T22:24:19+00:00

Alright, I'm probably going to be crucified, but I do want marriage. I am looking at my parents, and I can see total roll reversal, my mother was Alpha as fuck, while my Dad was following her. She takes all of us out of poverty, she took the risks, and he supported her. I want that. Fck the looks and shit, I want unicorn women like my mother was. If, by any chance, I found woman like that, i will marry her that instant.

oldneckbeard · 2014-07-18T02:18:38+00:00

The primary flaw in this argument is the stance that american neo-traditional marriage is the ideal. Plenty of groups of people had women raise children in village-style communities. Plenty of people still do that today. People with large extended families can pass the kids around all the time.

tedcase · 2014-07-17T21:32:08+00:00

In other news, the sky is blue and the pope is catholic.

Panzer_Geist · 2014-07-18T02:46:01+00:00

Interesting article. But I liked the second one better. The one where the Christian mom finds that her son had been googleing "naked boys", "naked men" and best of all "what is homosexuality". Oh man I almost fell out of my chair laughing. A fudge packer in the making.

thebears1986 · 2014-07-17T20:58:28+00:00

The research found that Millennials, many of whom are the children of divorce and single-parenthood themselves

DING DING DING!

I am a 23 year old woman working as a database programmer(currently finishing up my degree in Comp Sci to become a software engineer). I always have and always will put my career first.

WHY?

Because my father left my family when I was born. Just poof, disappeared. No child support, no nothing. My mom had to get a job to provide for us. Because of this, I grew up thinking that women should be finally independent.

If my dad had been in my life, I most likely would have turned out to be the marriage material that all men desire.

But I didn't.

Now according to the article, many other women of my age come from single parent households. So is the lack of marriagable women due to feminism, or a deadbeat dad who forced his little girl to get her own career?

I know in MY case, it was the latter.

Edit:spelling/grammar

Edit: I had a feeling I would find this at the bottom of the page LOL

Title	Women aren't women anymore. So men aren't marrying them.
Author	N3vertheless
Upvotes	403
Comments	238
Date	July 17, 2014 6:27 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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