So much of the issues that cause subs like this to be born, to me seem to be caused by the fact that so many men, and so many women, seem completely incapable of empathy. So many men can't seem to understand why that girl in the club doesn't want to dance with just any dude. So many girls can't seem to understand why being routinely ignored by the opposite sex might make incels angry. Girls listen to men "locker-room talk" about women, and get angry and cry about objectification, and then can't seem to understand why men get mad when they hear women talk about men and complain about how "all men are pigs/trash". Guys call girls sluts and hoes, and then wonder why girls don't want to fuck them on the first date.

So much of this seems to actually be counter productive. Why slut-shame, when you want girls to fuck you on the first date/after picking the up in a club? Why complain about fuck-boys and lament the lack of nice guys... and then go on to fuck fuck-boys? Why do so many guys not seem to understand why girls (stereotypically) are afraid of being called sluts (and how that informs their behavior), and why do so many girls not seem to understand why guys (stereotypically) are afraid of becoming incels/going on dry-spells (and how that informs their behavior)?

Or, to give a more relevant example to what inspired this post, feminist rage about how women are objectified in the media, and the media is overrun by 'sexy' images of women... and then don't seem to understand how, in a world where boys are already doing worse than girls at school, abolishing dress codes for girls and letting them wear whatever they want to school (including outrageously skimpy clothing) might just maybe distract boys and make them do even worse. Expecting men to be in control and poised at all times, no matter what women are wearing? I can get behind that. Expecting the same from boys? From kids? The only people who could demand that have clearly never been a boy going through puberty, or have never even tried to imagine what being a preteen boy is like, and that's all I have to say about that. Never mind that, half of the time, the reason boys don't get dress-coded as much is because boys' fashion just doesn't have as much diversity as girls' clothing; this must be discrimination. If you want to make a stand for the desexualisation of the female body, doing so in the one area where you're going to run into tons of parents concerned about their kids education, probably isn't the smartest idea. (And yes I do concede that some dress codes actually are just bullshit).

Or, to give another relevant example to what inspired this post, guys at my college recently raged about how some girls threw a topless 'body positivity' party... and saying boys weren't allowed to attend. As if they couldn't understand why a bunch of girls could possible feel uncomfortable being half-naked around a bunch of horny guys. Anybody who can't understand that, has clearly never been a woman, or even tried to imagine what being a women is like. Never mind all the statistics about sexual assault, or campus predators, or just plain violence; clearly this must just be "a lack of body positivity for men", this must be discrimination, there must be no possible reason for women to be cautious/uncomfortable.

This isn't even about facts, or objective reality; this about people seemingly being unable to realise that emotions aren't always based on objective reality. It doesn't matter what the figures on sexual assault actually are; if a girl has been raised listening to the 'BE CAREFUL' narrative, then that is what is going to inform her emotions, and make her dis-invite men to her topless party, and no amount of anti-feminist screeching is going to change that. It doesn't matter if 'objectifying women' is evil, or if the media is 'a poisonous puppet of the patriarchy'; if a preteen/teen boy has grown up watching main stream, objectifying movies, then his classmates coming to school in booty shorts is going to distract him, and it is going to impact his learning, and no amount of feminist screeching is going to change that.

That's actually why I liked Red Pill in the beginning. It used to be all about just accepting that women are, in general, going to act a certain way, because that's what works best for them, just like how men are going to act in a certain way because that's what works best for them, and that raging against that was stupid and pointless. The same could be said for "pop-culture feminism". Now it just seems like both movements are just all about shaming/complaining about the opposite gender, and that's just sad.

End rant.

TL:DR = Too much of the outrage and issues that cause things like this sub, is just men and women refusing to even try and understand what being the other gender is like.