Dear Men, how many of you would loathe to be in the scenrio as described below ( "marraige material husband" with whom woman wants to "build a life with") and would rather die alone and childless, please help the women out on PPD, who are convinced we are okay with this case.

WestsideMoonWalker · 2018-06-25T14:27:31+00:00

The premise of this post is ridiculous. If a sibling is dating someone that makes them happy and treats them right, I have no reason to get involved unless something is very very extremely wrong.

Noxin__Nixon · 2018-06-25T14:24:18+00:00

I think you are misrepresenting the views people posted in that thread but whatever. Also as man I never would have wanted mom and sister's advice like you seem to want.

My advice:

Get off the internet for 6 months (or at least these anonymous forums of male-female bs).

Go buy yourself :

Dale Carnegie's How to Make Friends and Influence People and Robert Greene's Art of Seduction.

Study those books. Then go buyself a flogger. Everytime you think some useless thought like wondering about how good a fuck you are, then flog yourself. Do not allow yourself to think like a weakling (overthinking and worrying about what anyone else might be thinking). After 3 months of studying and practicing those two books and exerting the self-discipline to prevent yourself from entering into a weak mindset, you should be ready to re-enter the world as a more dominant man equipped with actual tools for success (those two books will give you more skills and tricks). You should also have evolved out of this worry-wort phase where you overthink about a girl's prior lovers.

wtknight · 2018-06-25T14:41:17+00:00

I let my brother make his own decisions in life. Unless he were doing something that could possibly get him killed, I don’t think I’d ever say anything. He knows his own psychology and life situation much better than I do.

exhibitionistcouplez · 2018-06-25T17:24:06+00:00

You subjectively describe it as Ghastly so there's no discussion to be had.

Your ego requires that you be first and only. This isn't reasonable and is a very slanted view based on (usually) you not having sexual success like you want and rejecting people who have because of insecurity.

You described a scenario that lacked any emotional...anything. Any links of emotional ties between the guy and the woman in question. Any ideas about what the guy wants or needs. The man in your question, scenario, whatever, is a blank slate.

Like...ok I have 3 girls. One was a virgin when she got with me. Cool. I've taught her alot.

The other two, one fucked like three guys before me and played with a few more. The other has had like 20 guys.

All of them want to settle down with me. And I really, honestly do not see any difference between the desire of my gf who fucked 20 guys before me and my gf who I was her first. Fucking a bunch of dudes didn't make her less worthy of me or less...anything. Just more experienced. And even for that lol most of the sex she had was EXACTLY what you guys generalize about. She had low self esteem and she totally rode a cock carosel for a while.

Why do I care? Her self worth isn't in the toilet anymore. She no longer has sex for validation. She likes me, is loyal, wants me, and is willing to build a life. Not just a relationship but an actual life. She works to help pay bills. She takes care of me like I do her. It's a partnership. Take away everything that went down before we got together and she treats me like so many here SCREAM that they want to be treated.

Who gives a fuck about her past? Her presence in my life is all I need to judge her on and her presence in my life is something that is great for me and our other partners.

dankytank · 2018-06-25T15:00:34+00:00

Attraction has so many different layers beyond the physical realm that you are completing discounting.

Even if a woman has dated an objectively hotter guy in the past, it doesn't mean that she isn't capable of finding another guy much more attractive. Maybe your brother connects with her on a spiritual level, on an emotional level, maybe your brother is better at communication and talks to her during sex to ask what she likes so she orgasms almost immediately every time. There is certain chemistry between people that doesn't always have to do with physical attractiveness.

wekacuck · 2018-06-25T14:35:10+00:00

I'm pretty torn in these sorts of things. It would probably bother me if I knew about it because it's definitely pride-wounding. But I've developed the ability to shutdown those thoughts very quickly based on the fact that from the guy's perspective he should be building the life he wants and not sitting around waiting for a woman to build it for him. So from that perspective I tend to focus on the guy's role and what he can do. In simple situations (dating whatever) he can just leave. I think a lot of these happen when the guy's not actively advocating for himself and his desires and is allowing the world happen to him.

To be fair this also isn't anything I've personally ever encountered before IRL so my experience with it so far is just thought experiments based on the comfort of pondering reddit posts.

xonthemark · 2018-06-25T15:26:20+00:00

Depends . If I'm Morpheus I'll hold out the blue pill and the red pill. Whichever pill he chooses, I will respect that

abaxeron · 2018-06-25T17:35:45+00:00

how many of you would loathe to be in the scenrio as described below... and would rather die alone and childless, please help the women out on PPD, who are convinced we are okay with this case.

To want to be "not alone and childful" is a decision that a man should make regardless of a woman he is with, because no woman is ever perfect wife and mother material; all women are at best fit enough for this role. They never had to compete with anyone else (because there's no alternative for human female to be a mother for human infant), and they never had to compete with each other (because male scarcity in reproductive age bracket is historically rare phenomenon). Children are forever, and women... should be treated with assumption that she had someone better than you in the past and will want someone better than you in the future. Even if she says she's a devout Christian virgin.

If we're talking "brother scenario", I'll simply tell him "better shit test her actions first" and leave him to decide for himself. If we're talking about myself, at this point in my live, she can give me several acres of real estate and a yacht as a date gift in attempt to win my affection; I'm not interested, regardless of her past.

Ercole_ · 2018-06-25T14:46:42+00:00

I could tell these girls all about how I wouldn't want to be in such a situation, but I ain't their brother, and I am a random asshole on the wrong side of Reddit, so they won't care.

The trick is for you to not care even harder. I mean, what are you even listening to women for?

Barely-moral · 2018-06-25T15:15:10+00:00

I want the best my partner has to offer.

If I found out that she did something for a partner in her past, she will agree to do the same with me or I walk away.

Her past is only relevant to know what I want from her. I don't care if what she did in her past with her previous partners as long as she is willing to do those things with me in the present.

I will get the same or better otherwise I will leave her.

I ask about those things so the only way she can hide that from me is by lying or refusing to answer. Both of those are reason enough for me to break up with her way before marriage. If later I found out she lied to me about those things she will never hear a word from me again. She can talk to my lawyer if we were married.

Does that answer your question?

Wallstreet3 · 2018-06-25T15:01:30+00:00

I'd rather die alone. Marriage material husband= fall back boy who she thinks she can abuse and use.

'Build a life with' = been rode hard and put up wet, her vag is now a roast beef, the sag is starting, her skin is slowly becoming sandpaper and she is afraid of being alone the rest of her life and is looking for her participation trophy other than a few STDs and OMS.

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mistercheeez-o____O- · 2018-06-25T18:44:28+00:00

It's hard to answer. No man wants to feel that way, but would he really be better off not being with her, or on his own due to principle alone? Sadly, I don't think that further isolation from intimacy is the best solution here.

I would rather know that I am appreciated for my deeds at this moment, and loved more holistically than just out of passion. If that were the Modus Operandi, than who's to say that the girl that I will form a life will have been the most "fun" or hottest girl that I've experienced.

Don't get me wrong though, there are far too many women using men in a cold BB way. I'm not sure that they are really going about it with the intention of using them, but many women have a behaviour that suggests that they view the majority of men as "sperm donor/ angel investor", when looking for a LTR.

SweeterPickles · 2018-06-25T19:01:39+00:00

There is nothing here that I see wrong until she does direct harm to him. Having a sexual past is fine, as it’s likely my friend or brother has had his fun as well.

Is she cheating on him? Is she lying to him? Is she stealing from him? If not, I see no reason why this relationship shouldn’t happen, especially if they are both in love with each other.

Million-Suns · 2018-06-25T19:24:27+00:00

I would wave huge red flags to my brother until he gets the message.

Whatever you do with that women, don't get knock her up and don't marry. The rest is not my business.

Littleknownfacts · 2018-06-25T14:07:19+00:00

Wow. Just read the comments. I can’t believe the women here!

How horrible they would be to their male siblings. That breaks my heart and angers me at the same fine. AWALT never dies. Never trust a woman to look out for a man even by blood is the lesson here.

For the selfish women here, this is what it feels like as a guy.

You ladies are cruel and should be ashamed.

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