Q4ALL: why are you you're Pill colour

sunkindonut149 · 2016-12-11T21:32:27+00:00

I'm blue because I'm a woman and a borderline incel. Me going red is like a chicken voting for the colonel. I also dislike both Chads and Stacys. Both of them are chips off the same block and red pill is basically saying these assholes are superior and that they were right for bullying you in high school.

I abhor alfalfalfalfa behavior with a passion, there is way more in life to focus on than how you look. If everyone focused on how they looked and tried to look like chads, then the world would be a sad af place.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T00:30:21+00:00

Purple cuz I'm damaged enough to discuss social interaction and human relationships on the internet but not damaged enough to be as hateful and pessimistic as TRP.

Also hanging around here listening to both sides is genuinely interesting. Sometime the reds have good points and other times the blues have better ones.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-12-11T21:14:55+00:00

i am redpill because when i encountered it, it reflected my worldview and experience of the world, dating, reality and the sexes

FairlyNaive · 2016-12-11T23:44:39+00:00

Red, because info from trp sub helped me to improve my life.

prodigy2throw · 2016-12-11T23:26:45+00:00

Red. Seems to have been working for me so far. Although I don't visit too often these days. Once you've got the basics you should be good to go.

raindient · 2016-12-12T00:21:44+00:00

TRP makes a lot of sense when they explain why younger women choose the men they do, why older women get involved with men they don't lust after, and why they lie about their reasons. Even TBP concedes about 1/3 of it is true, though they sound surprised that anyone didn't already know that part.

I've pretty much stopped expecting anyone to show up with better explanations.

cxj · 2016-12-12T00:35:10+00:00

I'm red because the core ideas of trp and manosphere 1.0 align strongly with my own real life experiences and observations. However I do not feel fully red, mostly because I view trp as more of a loose sketch and incomplete map of the smp. I think it offers good general rules and explanations but even the core ideas are too absolute for me to believe 100% in.

AloneOnTheStrange · 2016-12-12T03:26:11+00:00

Red, bordering on purple, because it's the best way to explain why you get treated the way you do in the social and sexual marketplace. I've experienced first hand how differently you get treated when you're attractive.

I don't follow the more extreme aspects of TRP. I understand there are nuances to the whole thing that are lost in a lot of the RP theory.

KrispyMcSockington · 2016-12-11T21:57:29+00:00

I'm blue because my views are the logical result of belief in equality which has been defined as the end goal of feminism.

[deleted] · 2016-12-11T22:17:28+00:00

Blue to me is calling out the bullshit in RP. It's not all bullshit but much of it is, and it breeds horrible behavior in [some] men desperate for answers trying to be something they're not, using a framework they can't really implement correctly because they have unfixable blind spot. Also because I detest the alt right and a lot of RPers seem to only hang out there to partake in the hatemongering.

Blue is not a thing. It's a reaction to red. I can't find any official organized "blue" dating ideology anywhere. Please don't tell me it's what our parents and "society" taught us because there are so many variables.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T00:14:54+00:00

Red because that's where I found balance.

KrispyMcSockington · 2016-12-12T04:05:56+00:00

Purple because even though I agree with a lot of what TRP says, I cannot live with as much paranoia as they do. They have great advice but sometimes a question from your SO is not a shit test, for example.

I believe you should take pussy off the pedestal but even though women are as fallible as men, I don't believe they all intentionally are trying to fuck men over or to ruin their relationships. There is definitely bias in the SMP that favours women, especially younger women, but men do themselves no favours by being enablers. If she is immature and has special snowflake syndrome, no matter how hot she is, leave. Thirsty men don't leave and this is one thing I wish men would pay more heed to.

I also believe the western world has made life very comfortable for middle to upper class women who are most likely feminist and cannot actually identify with the issues and concerns of poorer folk or women in different cultures. It is all too easy for them to be armchair critics of everything men without having to face actual discrimination and hatred. They should take their fight to where it is needed most but they are too comfortable, too scared to do so and are happy to blame men for why they cannot have it all even though men in general never had it all.

cesarema · 2016-12-12T05:07:28+00:00

I'm red, because it makes my life better than if I were blue.

monster_strapon · 2016-12-11T23:16:13+00:00

I'm blue because I'm way too lazy to be dominating/managing my woman all the time.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T01:44:58+00:00

I'm from the alien world in Avatar. I'm connected to the internet with my hair's neural fibres. I get a pretty good data transfer rate.

I also pee in the shower standing up, and a red piller told me that's disgusting, and so I've lost my traditional woman card and I have no choice but to be blue...

goatismycopilot · 2016-12-11T21:25:00+00:00

I am a mix. There are many things about TRP that do not seem "realistc" even though they like to claim higher ground in reality and there are times where I scratch my head at the messages many who are into TRP claimed they got that led them to TRP. There are times where I do not entirely relate to BP because it is not the hive mind TRP thinks it is. My own truth have been a mix of experience and upbringing.

[deleted] · 2016-12-11T23:49:21+00:00

[permanently deleted]

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T03:55:30+00:00

Because I'm a woman. And if anything on Redpill is to be believed, I don't exist.

nomdplume · 2016-12-12T04:20:01+00:00

Red, because I saw in RP much of what I had learned over the years identified, articulated, cataloged, and advocated. It took a lot of my experiential knowledge and allowed me to look at it intellectually.

[deleted] · 2016-12-11T21:26:40+00:00

I am red pill because my real-life experience reflects red pill concepts.

I have lots and lots of anecdata. Probably more than the average person has.

vorverk · 2016-12-11T21:14:35+00:00

I'm red because I love truth more than fairy tales.

Ascimator · 2016-12-11T21:37:42+00:00

Purple, because Red and Blue are both extremes and neither reflects the world accurately.

boscoist · 2016-12-11T22:02:28+00:00

DA RED WUNZ GO FASTA!

washington_breadstix · 2016-12-12T08:17:20+00:00

I don't subscribe to a "pill" exactly.

As a man currently leading a rather sexless life, I feel as though I needed the red pill philosophy as a wake-up call to the fact that I must actively work toward improving my appearance if I want women to notice me. The "looks don't matter" ideology is unrealistic. When it comes down to it, I have no reason to believe that women are less shallow than men. And they shouldn't have to be.

On the other hand, I get uneasy about the way TRP seems to gloss over things like the subjectivity of attraction and has a borderline juvenile obsession with "sluts" and a woman's number of past sexual partners.

questioningwoman · 2016-12-11T21:12:22+00:00

I'm a no piller because I'm a cynical yet idealist, consequentialist, misanthrope. Any questions? I want my dreams and I don't want society fucking it up for me.

questioningwoman · 2016-12-11T21:29:05+00:00

muh tribalism mothafucka. The red pill and blue pill don't really anything concrete. The blue pill represents conventional thinking and the red pill rejects that in some measure. I don't really use conventions to guide my views on the world so I mix and match. I want things for myself, a fairer world but also recognize evo psych being a real thing. I'm not a fatalist.

[deleted] · 2016-12-11T22:05:15+00:00

i think a lot of TRP stuff is silly or just wrong, so i'm not red pill. i don't agree with some of the judgments nor do i enjoy the constant outrage over at TBP, though, so i'm not really blue pill either.

blue-flaired people are often lumped in with actual TBPers, so i just use a black/gray flair now.

drok007 · 2016-12-11T23:11:28+00:00

I am not BP, because BPers don't know what they are talking about. I also like making fun of people who can't handle sexism and misogyny.

basebool · 2016-12-12T01:15:37+00:00

Red, but I don't subscribe to every part of it. Just the sections that helped me improve myself physically and socially.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T09:20:39+00:00

Red, because that's the only way life makes sense.

wub1234 · 2016-12-12T10:31:34+00:00

Some RP beliefs are correct. Some BP beliefs are correct. Some RP beliefs are incorrect. Some BP beliefs are incorrect.

scallopkid · 2016-12-12T14:45:42+00:00

I'm red because I like things that make my life better.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T15:40:28+00:00

Purple. I've seen enough of human nature to know about our tendency to make stupid mistakes but also to learn from them.

ppdthrowawai · 2016-12-12T18:58:45+00:00

As I've posted in the past, it was a culmination of things.

-Went to a super liberal university surrounded by crybaby feminists. Dated a few, never again.

-Trial and error dating experience took me from a blue to a reddish purple

-History of egalitarian relationships that didn't seem equal or stacked against me.

-Years of dead bedroom and trying everything under the sun to fix it led to some unique advice I had never seen before. About 2 years ago started implementing it and getting immediate results before I even knew what it was called. Turned out to be dread game and the red pill.

-Dipped into forums that I casually laughed at before. Realized that a large amount of the written material was eerily similar to my life's experiences.

-Continued solidifying my game and things continued to improve. Knew it was legit when the things happening to me started sounding like made up RP field reports.

MorpheusGodOfDreams · 2016-12-12T07:38:02+00:00

RED because men and women are different.

I was surrounded for many years by the most Liberal Blue Pill ideology anyone could possibly stomach, and thought it was the norm. Part of this ideology was a disgust and contempt for religion, which led me to study it to satisfy my curiosity as to how it affects psychology.

Through this process I began to notice the extremist dogmatic ideology I was living in, and how it is based in Marxist thought.

Stating that men should be feminine and women should be masculine is absolutely ridiculous. Both are a net negative for the individuals and the society as a whole, and only leaves people in a weak and soft state in a dangerous world, leaving them open to many more threats.

The weakest and most vulnerable people are the most likely to accept the basically religious dogma that is communism, which then offers "salvation" with its views on "progress" (i.e. faith) towards a magical utopia where human nature and scarcity of resources don't exist. Acting like we are already in this utopia is a recipe for disaster.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2016-12-11T23:33:56+00:00

Blue because red pillers are fucking disgusting.

wombatinaburrow · 2016-12-11T22:36:02+00:00

Blue, because laughing at misogyny is fun.

AutoModerator · 2016-12-11T21:09:35+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair, just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[deleted] · 2016-12-11T22:40:32+00:00

[permanently deleted]

Jewdius_Maximus · 2016-12-12T01:30:41+00:00

I don't subscribe to a pill because I fundamentally believe both in tenets of the red pill as far as what women truly find attractive in men and what they don't find attractive, but I don't believe in the ridiculously condescending nature of the TRP sub which literally just sounds like a bunch of bitter 19 year olds having a circle jerk. And I do believe a man and woman can love each other. TRP preaches this weird "women are all shrews" mentality that just doesn't make sense. Many TRPers literally do not believe women have the mental faculties of an adult which sounds ridiculous and farcical.

12isLimited · 2016-12-12T04:29:58+00:00

Yeah that is typical reason of people who are blue, all love is love kind of bullshit, amusing actually.

No color, i am me.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T06:23:38+00:00

Purple. RP has noticed some things about dating dynamics which society doesn't mentioned. Or rather, male dating advice shines this light in placed where it's needed.

But I'm BP about the US court system. Bad divorces happen to everyone, and not a few women end up paying alimony. Reporting spousal abuse will likely count against you in family courts(Lundy Bancroft), plus most marriage counseling is badly set up to protect abused spouses. RP completely overblows the risk of a false rape accusation. Also, lots of women raped for real know better than to report it.

Dissentient · 2016-12-12T07:40:36+00:00

I never took the pills.

I opted out of SMP/relationships altogether so the whole thing is fairly inconsequential to my life, but as far as I can observe other people, neither red nor blue pills seem to accurate describe the reality as I see it.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T11:09:01+00:00

My official take is that I am not any pill because I like to think of myself as a special snowflake that cannot be categorised. These are my feels.

That being said I am more purple because on some things I lean red and others I lean blue.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T13:12:53+00:00

I'm blue 'cause I'm not part of the redpill cult, so definitionally I'm a bloop. It's the default option: if you're not delusional enough to be redpill, then you must be bluepill!

As to why I hang out here sometimes, the best analogy would be for the same reason that other people sometimes go to the zoo.

[deleted] · 2016-12-12T15:10:34+00:00

Mostly blue, I suppose, but with some stipulations. My blueness is a result of my lived experience and personality. I'm introverted and introspective, value my independence greatly, highly prioritize my budding career in academia, and desire a mate who will respect that and foster that. I consider all of that to be better championed by non-redpill frames of thought.

BPremium · 2016-12-12T15:29:37+00:00

Red. Since I'm fucked either way due to not being a Chad. but I'd rather know the reason why instead of keeping some delusional dream that someday someone will want me.

Nagicman1 · 2016-12-12T19:47:13+00:00

I believe in true love, but I'm not blue pilled, I'm red pilled, but not like the guys at the red pill subreddit, they're just retarded.

[deleted] · 2016-12-13T14:58:58+00:00

Identity-signalling is retarded. People see TRP as ideology because that's how they see the world.

Ideology is all it takes to do things against your best interest, because it's better to be 'correct' than it is to be happy

BellaScarletta · 2016-12-14T06:07:18+00:00

Red because

I think the nuances of femininity/masculinity are lost on most women(/people), and the idea of 'submitting' to a man is immediately taken at its worst connotation and as a personal assault. In reality, I think given the chance to understand, most women would be happier with a male partner who they trust to lead them in the dark. Conversely I think most men flourish when given full faith from their partner.
I also think society is so sick with obsessing over being progressive we are turning our backs on tried-and-true sources of happiness and satisfaction in favourite of some unknown that offers little merit aside from lip service with themes of 'independence' - when really people are just trying to rationalize their loneliness. I'm not suggesting you need to have someone to be happy or find fulfillment, but abandoning companionship in favour of societal constructs is absolutely madness.
(note: I'm not a Christian or general conservative person) I also think there is a genuine degradation of morals and societal fabric. It filters into should-be strongholds like familial piety, and I think feminism and progressivism is right at the root of that evil. I made my note because I'm not coming from some biased moral high ground, but rather I just see the lack of sanctified signposts guiding us through life as they've been thrown out in favour of debauchery masquerading as enlightenment. It's nonsense.

OfSpock · 2016-12-12T10:04:07+00:00

You can't understand science and be red pill.

Title	Q4ALL: why are you you're Pill colour
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	3
Comments	140
Date	December 11, 2016 9:09 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5hsf05/q4all_why_are_you_youre_pill_colour/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/q4all-why-are-you-youre-pill-colour.271328 https://theredarchive.com/post/271328

Comments