My general view is despite some male and female sexual differences in desire, generally men and women are the same; the difference is that hypergamy is a real thing. Women want men above them and men are generally replaceable or not inherently valuable the way women are. Women get the benefits of sexual equality and that of traditionalism. Women are not below men, they are just people; there are good and bad women. Misogyny will not solve these problems.
There seems to be two schools of thought:
A) The Red Pill: Play the game, bring your value up and don't commit. Note how instead of seeing the system as messed up, red pillers play right into it. They put women on the highest of pedestals without even considering their own needs. It assumes all men just want to lifelessly and callously go from one bed to another without any emotional reassurance. Honestly I see it as men trying to get the same validation women get on a daily basis or "chad" gets. Also, traditionalism isn't really something I see as valuable. That just holds an outdated division of labor as this golden ideal when in reality it puts more on your back. I like being vulnerable. I am a man with feelings. Girls who don't like it can fuck right off.
B) Mgtow: These men also see the problems in the sexual market and they want out. How healthy so you think it is to shun the opposite sex as a whole? How healthy do you think it is for a species that is sexual to just turn its back on over a billion years of evolutionary development? At least mgtow acknowledge how horrible traditionalism is.
And for people who say feminism is an alternative; it's not. Just look at what they say about nice guys (it's just some strawman like "u just want to get laid " or ignoring the fact the argument isn't so much that being nice is the only requirement but being a dick tends to get you attention. Just look at the scott guy who got eviscerated. These people do not care )or men who complain about the sexual market. They shame feminist men for presenting as feminists men. The whole MRA stereotype from feminists is being this beta male (which is ironic because the MRM isn't about dating as much as it's about legal and social issues).
It's fascinating how no one wants hold women accountable or wants to make the system more equal or fair. I don't know about you guys, but I want a stable relationship. I don't want to fuck a million girls nor do I want to drop out. But I also don't like feeling replaceable, having the responsibility of romance entirely on me and having to be this macho, emotionless, stoic man who has to "hold frame". I am not an alpha, I am not a beta, I am not some toxic man nor a feminist. I am just a man who wants to be loved, just like women are.
Edit: I wanted to add that even if we can't blame women as a whole, the solutions don't involve women doing anything. Either get better or drop out, k.
Edit 2, some suggestions of changes on women's end:
How about you pursue? How about you drop hints? How about you go outside of your little cliques? Ask me out. Tell me I'm handsome. Be straightforward with me in the way I am. Don't look down on men when they are straightforward or clearly available. I know girls who will complain about men being horrible and will go after guys who are clearly not interested in anything real. I try to put myself out there and a lot of times, it's just people completely out of my age range. Make yourself look available. Most men are not as stoic as we seem. We have feelings. Accept it. Men here go crazy raising their "value". Women don't want to and whether or they do or not, they still want men way above them. Why not go for men like yourself? You'd be more compatible anyway. Stop ghosting. You don't even know me and yet there are women who find ANY reason to disqualify a dude. Here's a little something on the difference in standards and how unrealistic women are:
https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
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