Are there any feminist movements/ideas that you support? If so, what is it?

drok007 · 2016-10-27T01:40:14+00:00

The radical feminist TERFs make sense sometimes.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-10-27T01:27:46+00:00

More interesting female characters in movies and TV.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-10-27T02:30:53+00:00

i guess a feminist position i agree with is that of TERFs on trans people

despisedlove2 · 2016-10-27T01:52:53+00:00

Not present day feminism.

Genuine feminism achieved its goals, which most of us take for granted today.

Today's feminism is a movement aimed at minimizing female responsibility and maximizing female privilege.

When its most well known claim, which even the President is fond of repeating, is a lie based on cherry picked data ("77c on the dollar") that compares female librarians to male corporate lawyers, you know that there is nothing left. These are the kinds of lies that in any other line of work would lead to reviewers rejecting the papers and people blackballing you for academic dishonesty. In fact, such "studies" have raised doubts about the integrity of social "sciences" as a whole.

A movement that has actual genuine goals to fight for doesn't need to manufacture facts out of whole cloth to keep itself relevant.

Feminism is now many things, viz. a desperate attempt to keep the thousands of people involved in gender studies and women studies programs on campuses relevant, keep the anti male laws on the books, criminalize male sexuality, keep the largesse for dubious ideas flowing, etc. One thing it isn't is a serious and honest movement not formed of ugly looking (and uglier inside) man-hating lesbians busy weaponizing female nature to co-opt relatively normal women with their natural hypergamist tendencies into the "cause".

This is not to say that feminism doesn't have a role these days. There are parts of the world where women are genuinely treated badly and suppressed. Particularly dark is the state of affairs in the Islamic world, especially the middle east, large parts of North Africa, and parts of South Asia.

However, you will never hear feminists railing and ranting about that because Western "liberalism" has signed a truce (actually an alliance given the range of things they collaborate on) with Islamists, who are ironically enough the most illiberal and retrograde force on the planet.

So if I need to listen to a real feminist, I would listen to Ayan Hirsi Ali, and people like her, who have shown real guts to highlight the atrocities on women, at severe risk to their own lives. The entitled and spoilt frauds in the West, who have turned their backs on their sisters in the Islamic world in their obsession to destroy Western males and family, don't interest me beyond the lasting damage they have already caused to the society, and are continuing to inflict.

Of course, when you watch incidents like Cologne, grooming scandals in the UK, open physical and sexual assaults on women in Europe at the hands of these hounds the feminist Chancellor of Germany let into the dying continent, the sight of the feminist mayor of Cologne asking women to dress decently to avoid being assaulted, while her ideological sisters carry out "slut walks" in safe New York, it is impossible for us to not grin and pass the popcorn. Reap the whirlwind, ladies. You made your bed.

Put bluntly, Western feminism is more akin to a mental disease than a real social reform movement at this moment in time.

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[deleted] · 2016-10-27T01:34:38+00:00

Well, I guess I agree with the concept of equality. Or maybe I just see how much better women have it now adays and wish things were truly equal.

And by equality I mean true equality. Like the type of equality where women are no longer babied or given special treatment and if a woman yells at or hits a man he gets to yell or hit her back and not face negative consequences for it.

NalkaNalka · 2016-10-27T02:13:06+00:00

There are some things feminists say they are for, like equal rights that I support. However most feminists that have any kind of actual power or platform spend their time undermining legal equality so I would not really call them feminist positions.

sublimemongrel · 2016-10-27T03:42:49+00:00

I do believe it's unfair that women have to pay so much for feminine products. I think they should be free and subsidized by the government so that all of society pays their fair share.

gasparddelanuit · 2016-10-27T03:58:44+00:00

Equal legal rights.

[deleted] · 2016-10-27T07:24:50+00:00

I agree with highlighting things such as street harassment, as I think that it's disgraceful that so many men think that it's completely appropriate to harass women like this.

This is an issue where I feel that many men are out of touch, especially those from a middle class background, as - not to put too fine a point on it - it tends to be something which is overwhelmingly a problem amongst the lower classes.

Other than that, I've yet to see anything to suggest that feminism is anything other than a ''grass is greener on the other side'' movement.

I think that feminism should be seen for what it is: a female advocacy group. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but they need to get rid of the ''equality'' crap, as that's just intellectually dishonest.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-10-27T09:14:23+00:00

The great thing feminism brought is the general better representation of female characters in books and series. I'm not just talking of Game of Thrones. Think how many great female character there are in the Harry Potter series. Women are no longer supposed to be just 'the love interest' of the man in fiction.

orangorilla · 2016-10-27T07:20:06+00:00

Abortion rights. If they could, I think we should have an abortion in a vending machine in every public bathroom.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-10-27T08:17:55+00:00

Is there anything you agree on with Nazis?

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-10-27T07:32:32+00:00

Female toplessness. I could do with some more public titty-staring.

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5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-10-27T12:17:19+00:00

I suppose if we can go back I'd say things like any legal inequalities between men and women being corrected.

But at present, in the west? Absolutely nothing. It should be scrapped.

[deleted] · 2016-10-27T12:39:22+00:00

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[deleted] · 2016-10-27T13:42:50+00:00

Sure. There are two, which were part of "traditional" feminism and which have been fully realized.

1) the idea that women are fully responsible for the decisions they make, morally, legally, and financially. Women are rational human beings who can and do make rational choices.

2) Women's self determination. She's free to marry or not, fuck or not, work or not, have kids or not. She's free to live her life however she wants within the bounds of the law. Three conditions:

a) She is fully responsible for the consequences of all her decisions, good and bad. She will bear the burdens and reap the benefits of every decision. See 1) above.

b) No complaining, whining or bitching that a decision she made didn't turn out very well for her or didn't get her what she wanted.

c) She pays for it. She finds a way to finance her life. She shouldn't get to rely on a man, family, charity or government for her "independence". You wanna be "independent"? You pay for it WITH YOUR OWN MONEY, like men do.

fschmidt · 2016-10-28T08:29:28+00:00

Feminists support importing Muslims, and I agree with them because this will destroy feminism.

cxj · 2016-10-27T03:09:28+00:00

I mean ideally I just want people to be able to do what they want, but not be able to pass on consequences to others. Women should be able to vote but unfortunately they seem to vote for tons of handouts for them at the expense of taxpayers. They should be able to fuck/not fuck who they want but not able to get welfare for children men don't stick around for. Or child support if the men did not want to opt into the childs life.

Also, male parental leave is probably bad overall but good for me personally so I'll support it. The fair paycheck act or whatever it was recently was marketed as feminism but in reality just made it harder for companies to keep a big secret about who is making what salary wise. I support it in that regard and I doubt it will have any affect on gender earning gaps.

yaboitinky · 2016-10-27T01:47:21+00:00

Title	Are there any feminist movements/ideas that you support? If so, what is it?
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Date	October 27, 2016 1:20 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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