Men who think feminism is for less attractive women to gain advantage in the SMV/RMV are projecting

SkentyDooBabble · 2016-10-06T23:11:46+00:00

Oh come on, you don't think Fat Acceptance is about getting sex from hot guys? Have you ever looked at an FA blog?

dakru · 2016-10-06T23:33:24+00:00

Feminism is about more fairness in the workplace (nothing about Chads there), more representation in politics etc (No Chads needed there either), less rape (from Chads or anyone else) etc etc.

Feminism is also often critical of beauty standards for women, especially in a general/cultural sense but I think it's also often applied to specific men's beauty standards because they're seen as perpetuating that part of our culture. There's also often a level of hostility to women who put effort into their appearance for men for "bowing to oppressive beauty standards".

These things very plausibly contribute towards "levelling out" the distinction between more attractive women and less attractive women, and thus improving the position of women on the lower end. With that said, I don't think that this effect is the "defining feature" of feminism, so I disagree with those who portray sexual strategy as being the point of feminism.

Entropy-7 · 2016-10-07T02:26:41+00:00

Feminism is about women of middling talent wanting to access the levers of power, money and success.

Truly talented women don't need feminism, and neither do those who have no o'er leaping ambition about who they are and what they can do.

ppdthrowawai · 2016-10-07T04:08:43+00:00

There are plenty of attractive feminists, but whenever I see a very very outspoken one, she almost always tends to be very unattractive, a 3 tops. It's common enough to not just be a coincidence. Can't explain it myself

AutoModerator · 2016-10-06T23:03:30+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair, just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

TheDarkShepard · 2016-10-07T03:05:50+00:00

Huh, this is one I havn't heard before. I usually hear the "Unattractive beta men say they are feminist to try and get laid". Interesting

tallwheel · 2016-10-07T08:20:34+00:00

TRP is fixated with Chad because we want to become him (or as close to him as possible). I'd love it if feminists were obsessed with the female version of Chad and trying to become her. Instead, they just want everyone to lower their standards so that the female version of Chad is an overweight woman with purple hair and thick-rimmed glasses.

daveofmars · 2016-10-07T12:48:51+00:00

Feminism is about more fairness in the workplace (nothing about Chads there), more representation in politics etc (No Chads needed there either), less rape (from Chads or anyone else) etc etc.

Feminism is whatever a particular feminist defines as Feminism, and that could be near anything. For you, this is what feminism means, but what about other feminists?

Intentional or not, you've left out a key piece that TRP uses to justify the claim that "feminism is for less attractive women", and that is the issue of fat shaming. There are feminists out there, apparently not yourself, which use fat acceptance and anti-fat shaming to shame other women and change men's sexual preferences in a direct attempt for the ugly, fat feminist to artificially boost their own SMV. No Projection required.

PIBagent · 2016-10-07T14:33:30+00:00

I typically side with the RP but I'm not gonna lie, at least two of the scenarios in the comics are not the women's fault.

In the one where the guy shot himself the women told him outright that they were not attracted to him. It would be a different story if they had lied to him saying something like "just be yourself" but the women described were un-characteristically honest. In addition you can't expect them to do much more than give platitudes after the fact and then continue about their lives (shown by her fucking chad). Ultimately the guy knew what type of man she wanted and was unwilling to either move on or put in the effort to get ripped like chad.

As for the one where the guy stands up to Chad for abusing her? She never asked him to do that and he shouldn't have been white knighting so hard.

sunkindonut149 · 2016-10-07T15:59:52+00:00

There are plenty of "feminists" who participate in bad faith and basically argue that they are entitled to sex. Same with TRPers.

Most fat acceptance isn't about getting laid, though.

There is no fuckin reason why someone else being fat should bother you or lead you to fuck with them as a person. "Muh airplane seats" aren't an excuse - airplane seats aren't a zero sum game.

There are tons and tons of airplanes in the world and factories make more every day. If you are a public fatphobe, you are a shit person. It's not about 'bu- bu- their health'. Their health impacts their own health insurance rates that they pay for because most fatties are office workers, not hobos.

Guess what, doctors aren't a zero sum game either. There is at least one doctor living in the Kardashian mansion, who would otherwise be unemployed if celebs didn't need their weekly botox shot.

The US blocks out foreign doctors by forcing them to get a US medical license even though they already have a medical license. This is to keep wages high because unemployment exists in US healthcare.

ThirdEyeSqueegeed · 2016-10-07T07:34:32+00:00

Women are solipsistic and thought that having careers and high powered jobs would make them more attractive to men, since that's what they're attracted to. Turns out, men don't find your career, money and status attractive.

Also, let's not forget the man-hating dykes who wanted to convince straight women that men are evil oppressors and that they should adopt political lesbianism to show their commitment to the cause. If that's not a, very devious and manipulative, sexual strategy then I don't know what is.

Title	Men who think feminism is for less attractive women to gain advantage in the SMV/RMV are projecting
Author	StickItInTheToilet
Upvotes	12
Comments	116
Date	October 6, 2016 11:03 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/568ama/men_who_think_feminism_is_for_less_attractive/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/men-who-think-feminism-is-for-less-attractive.272561 https://theredarchive.com/post/272561

Comments