Red Pill Women, do you not want equality?

alphabetmod · 2015-02-04T20:31:06+00:00

Why are you so opposed to feminism.

Because you say this:

feminism is about equality.

But what you really mean is this:

weak men who kill themselves because they can't believe in equality?

You want women to be "equal" but who gives a fuck about "weak" men. Not trying to be insulting but you're a walking caricature of the "bad" feminists that the "true" feminists like to pretend don't exist.

Katniss_Granger · 2015-02-04T22:04:20+00:00

Modern day, developed country feminism is not about equality, its just not. It's about a totally lack of accountability for women's actions, it's about getting a leg up in the workplace rather than putting in the effort to show we deserve the high positions. It's about victimhood and blaming everyone else rather than taking responsibility for your mistakes.

Feminism is just too female focussed for my liking, equality doesn't need a female focussed movement, it needs human beings with a basic concept of morality, I want equality between races, nationalities, sexual orientations not just sexes and that's just being a basic level human.

I personally have only ever felt oppressed by feminists, women are the only people who have told me that I can't do something.

Feminism is about women being the same, treated the same, looked at the same, thought of as the same as men (unless being treated like a woman benefits us!) we're not the same, we never have been, we can't be. That doesn't make us inferior it makes us different and embracing that will make the genders complimentary, feminism has cause a divide between the genders that needs to be fixed.

Also: Men can unscrew my jars for me :D

_whatdreamsmaycome_ · 2015-02-04T20:28:31+00:00

Why are you so opposed to feminism. As I understand it, feminism is about equality. It's about giving women equal rights, access to education, ability to live independent of men, and pursue their own education and careers. Why is any of that 'wrong'?

None of that is wrong, but I'm a feminist so...

I got banned from your sub for stating that it's not my fault if some men commit suicide because they can't handle working women and I stand by that. Why is that opinion ban worthy?

Even if it's technically correct that it's not directly your problem, the way you said it (your tone and phrasing) really seems trollish, ignorant, and fairly misandrist. In short, it's not what you said, but how you said it.

Try the following experiment and get back to us:

Make an alt account
Go to /r/twoxchromosomes and find a domestic abuse thread.
Make a comment "It's not my fault if some women commit suicide because they can't handle a dominant man. Is it wrong for men to place their own happiness over weak-willed women who kill themselves because they can't handle a relationship with a real man?" Record the time as t0.
When you get banned, record the time as t1.
Report back here the difference in minutes between t1 and t0.

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_whatdreamsmaycome_ · 2015-02-04T20:26:58+00:00

feminism is about equality

That's fucking funny.

DaThrowaway808 · 2015-02-04T20:31:04+00:00

no, you got banned for being from TBP. 4 mods have explained that to you 100 times, why are you dense? you did not get banned for your opinion. we told you 100 times. i will post screenshots of us telling you 100 times.

Bakerofpie · 2015-02-04T20:42:04+00:00

It's about giving women equal rights, access to education, ability to live independent of men, and pursue their own education and careers

We already HAVE that, so if that's all feminism was about we don't really need it anymore. It's a joke to say that it's just about equality. Equal in value does not mean interchangeable. A man is not better than me by virtue of having a penis, but I don't need to campaign for equality. The western world is already pretty damn equal. Feminism seems to breed a victim mentality, and for lack of better words, fuck that.

TempestTcup · 2015-02-04T20:36:16+00:00

We have told you at least 10 times that you got banned from RPW for being a TROLL not for whatever selfish, callous, and heartless beliefs you have. You are a TROLL because you comment and make posts on a TROLL sub mocking us. You don't get to mock us and also play with us.

Usually socially adept, intelligent people learn this in kindergarten.

LifterofThings · 2015-02-05T03:33:14+00:00

Oh lordy, it's you again.

As I understand it, feminism is about equality.

Sure... in theory. In practice, there's an awful lot of silly victim complexes and man-blaming and unreasonable demands being exhibited. Feminism's no longer just demanding equality of opportunity-- they're trying to demand equality of outcome, which doesn't really make any sense.

RPW don't really believe that "equality" can exist in the way that feminists seem to want it to exist. There are no legal or physical barriers to women anymore. Women are permitted in every field men occupy. What feminists now want is for women to make up 50% of every field (well, the lucrative ones that don't require hard or messy physical labour, anyhow), and if they don't it's the fault of some nebulous patriarchy. That kind of "equality" just isn't feasible given disparities in ability/inclination; men and women aren't the same, and never will be. That doesn't mean each sex doesn't have an equally important role to play. It just means that they aren't the same roles.

It's about giving women equal rights, access to education, ability to live independent of men, and pursue their own education and careers.

They have these already.

I got banned from your sub for stating that it's not my fault if some men commit suicide because they can't handle working women and I stand by that.

You got banned for the sub for posting at TBP, and for being salty and disrespectful. Drop the martyr complex.

Why is it that you have a problem with me pursuing my own goals?

We don't. We don't really give a shit what you do with your life. You may be shocked to know that lots of us have educations and jobs too.

Is it wrong for me to place my own happiness over weak men who kill themselves because they can't believe in equality?

Meh, I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong... although your lack of empathy while claiming the moral high ground is sort of an interesting bit of cognitive dissonance.

... let's stop pretending you're some martyr to the feminist cause. You came to our sub and were a dick, and you got banned, like we ban all of the dicks that come to our sub. Y'ain't that special. Sorry.

relationshipdownvote · 2015-02-05T01:14:57+00:00

Help me I'm not equal! I'm weak but it's not my fault!

Men are weak? Let them die, they're losers fuck them.

gabilromariz · 2015-02-05T01:34:26+00:00

I'll share my two cents:

Red Pill Women, do you not want equality?

nope

Why are you so opposed to feminism. As I understand it, feminism is about equality. It's about giving women equal rights, access to education, ability to live independent of men, and pursue their own education and careers. Why is any of that 'wrong'?

That's not wrong, it's quite the beautiful intention. But these days, the word feminism in the western world has become a sort of umbrella-term for many other silly things and doesn't even touch on the issues some women in other countries face, like the ones you stated. I see more feminists angered up about some guy opeing a door for them than about some poor girls not being able to go to school.

I got banned from your sub for stating that it's not my fault if some men commit suicide because they can't handle working women and I stand by that.

You got banned because that's how reddit works, people ban each other when they find someone unwelcome in their communities. It's not your fault people commit suicide. I don't think anyone's ever killed themselves for that reason but my opinion doesn't change a thing. Yours is worth just as much

Why is that opinion ban worthy? Why is it that you have a problem with me pursuing my own goals? Is it wrong for me to place my own happiness over weak men who kill themselves because they can't believe in equality?

I don't think anyone has a problem with whatever you do with your personal life, that's just ridiculous. The last question doesn't warrant an answer, even if there are such men, it's silly to place so much importance on strangers you've never met

exit_sandman · 2015-02-05T07:21:46+00:00

I got banned from your sub for stating that it's not my fault if some men commit suicide because they can't handle working women and I stand by that. Why is that opinion ban worthy? Why is it that you have a problem with me pursuing my own goals? Is it wrong for me to place my own happiness over weak men who kill themselves because they can't believe in equality?

Whooohooo.

A really nasty case of Poe's Law we have here.

ExpendableOne · 2015-02-06T02:56:27+00:00

Red-pill pretty much owes it's entire existence to feminism's failure to gender equality, and society's unwillingness to hold women accountable for their choices and the ways they treat men(double-standards which feminism has not only failed to address entirely but that has actually struggled to uphold and defend).

The fact that you believe that women in are in need of "equal rights"(when they already have them and then some), need access to education(when they already have all the access possible and then some), need of independence from men(when they have that already, and then some) and need to pursue their own careers(when they already have that and then some), or that you would consider these points to be prevalent enough to completely ignore all the other privileges and benefits that women are granted, demonstrates just how out of touch feminists are with the world they live in and how unqualified they are to even address these issues.

Fact is that, whatever you might think of red pill idealists, they are still better supporter of equality(for both men and women) than feminists actually are, and but choose to make the best of a bad situation instead of killing themselves trying to fix all of feminism's failures and hypocrisies.

I got banned from your sub for stating that it's not my fault if some men commit suicide because they can't handle working women and I stand by that.

Are you serious with that statement? Because not only is it such a completely ridiculous fallacy and hyperbole(men don't kill themselves because women are working) but it is also completely insulting, condescending and dismissive to men, the issues they face, the double-standards that brought them to suicide and their deaths. How could you possibly think that this would be an accurate, sensible or intelligent thing to say?

namae_nanka · 2015-02-05T02:13:24+00:00

Anti-suffragism was a political movement composed mainly of women, begun in the late 19th century in order to campaign against women's suffrage in Great Britain and the United States. It was closely associated with "domestic feminism", the belief that women had the right to complete freedom within the home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suffragism

teeelo · 2015-02-07T21:44:20+00:00

Jesus...Are you a Red Pill, MRA who made a fake account to act like an exaggerated caricature of a neo-feminist just to make them look bad?

There's no way you are for real.

thereddespair · 2015-02-04T21:38:41+00:00

Somedays I dont really know if I belong to the red pill or blue pill lol as they all seem to think I belong to the other group for some reason.

Feminism I'm in the US. Women have education here. Independent of men, from what I see there are a lot of relationships where the woman does have a job and it is the man who depends on them as bums.

Why would I side with a group that wants these things, which we already have?

I can get it if you mean saudi arabia maybe but we are not there and feminists here act as if the conditions here are as if they're in india or the middle east which is nonsense.

Then comes these moronic issues they have of men oppressing others by the way they sit. These types of women do not need feminism, they need to make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

I just got banned from RPW too, I guess for congratulating a recently engaged woman there the wrong way lol. Do I care, not really.

As for men who commit suicide. Any human has a right to take away their own lives. I do not think a man would kill themselves just because of women working, if that is true somewhere that man is probably in need of psycho-mental attention.

PostNationalism · 2015-02-04T20:16:20+00:00

most subs ban dissent pretty fast, that's life

some_pill · 2015-02-04T21:14:26+00:00

Taking a page from TRP, because answering for other people is so awesome!

FRSFxHkkXX · 2015-02-04T20:59:36+00:00

They probably don't, since 90% of them are TRPers roleplaying with alt accounts.

Title	Red Pill Women, do you not want equality?
Author	strongalfalfa
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Date	February 4, 2015 8:13 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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