CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-12-26T22:27:28+00:00

People complain. Too much time on the internet is spent in taking complaining seriously

FatmanSlim93 · 2019-12-27T02:38:18+00:00

Pretty much. I don’t even understand why these groups waste time trying to have relationships with the opposite sex considering how they feel about them. It’s like watching a nazi try and date a Jew.

bobdolesdole · 2019-12-26T23:14:42+00:00

I like the idea of being with a woman who complains about men all day. Means I cleared a pretty high bar, and I’m probably getting sick alpha male treatment from her since 99% of other men she interacts with inspire disgust and avoidance.

crafeminist · 2019-12-27T09:27:47+00:00

People don’t always do the right thing. You’re right that they shouldn’t be dating the opposite sex, ..but hormones. At least FDS has self-awareness to go with their curse.

jayval90 · 2019-12-26T21:45:50+00:00

Hurting people hurt people. That implies there is a critical mass of hurt where things go supercritical and everything flies apart.

If that's the case, you're not helping. People don't get better when they isolate themselves. They get worse.

Notsonewguy7 · 2019-12-27T14:41:41+00:00

I've dated both men and women. Both are great and awful in their own way. I think for heterosexuals some resent their sexual dependency on the other. This resentment builds and because of the internet it has gained steam.

poopiedoodie710 · 2019-12-26T21:11:38+00:00

If this is your view of the opposite sex, stop sleeping with them, stop dating them, and get on with your life.

Why?

ohheyhi99 · 2019-12-26T21:01:27+00:00

I’ll keep my standards and guards up as high as the ceiling

Not necessarily trashing, but being wary of men + having high standards proved to be a good strategy for me.

High standards saved me from abusive men and I know this because before having any of these standards I had a ""relationship"" with a man who date raped me and gaslighted me into thinking this was normal, all while threatening to tell my family I was a whore. I think I really needed the FDS to reprogram me from that state.

Workaholiconew · 2019-12-26T20:53:19+00:00

With the exception of some people in the groups you listed, they don't 'hate' the opposite sex, they just don't like how the relationships with the opposite sex are usually going and are looking to improve their personal side of the bargain, thus trash around in the internet. At least to the manosphere side of things.

With exception of MGTOW, all groups you mentioned also consider they need the opposite sex, and there are no alternatives. That can't be changed. When there is no alternative, you have to accept what you've got.

A perfect comparison is the relationship between independent youtubers and youtube. They need one another, and like and hate many parts of it, and trash one another all the time, but in the end the relationship still stands, as they need each others. People can like and dislike many aspects of a single thing.

Edit: changed hate to trashing. Grammar

poopiedoodie710 · 2019-12-26T21:32:01+00:00

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RubyWooToo · 2019-12-27T23:06:34+00:00

People only bitch about what’s important to them.

[deleted] · 2019-12-27T00:12:01+00:00

The fact that you're equating FDS with TRP is dumb.

TRP is connected to actual fascist blogs. They used to promote Heartiste Chataeu which was explicitly white nationalist. FDS on the other hand is just women poking fun at TRP.

Sorry, but if you seriously think TRP and FDS are "the same", then you'r misinformed. FDS is mostly satire. TRP is promoting neoreactionary and fascist propaganda.

couldbemage · 2019-12-27T02:37:27+00:00

This is a statement of what you want with no reason given for why anyone else should agree.

aAvocado62846 · 2019-12-27T04:48:50+00:00

Finally a normal person. People from those subs some how know alot about the opposite gender and dating for someone who have probably never been in a relationship or even a date.

ElfFey · 2019-12-28T07:53:14+00:00

Strongly agree. I am female RP'er, also banned from the forum. When I first found TRP, it was like a breath of fresh air. Finally, people were talking about what just made social/biological sense at a time when I felt like I was getting mixed messages from my liberal environment.

The thing is they just keep going with it to the point that it becomes an excuse to hate on the opposite sex. It was important to me to meet a guy who understood that I expected him to fulfill certain "masculine" roles and qualities in the relationship...and that I planned on fulfilling certain "female" roles and qualities, that I didn't later want to be punished for. For example, I want to be submissive during sex. I don't later want to be disrespected about it.

Sadly, this is exactly what Red Pill says you do. Pump them and dump them. Likewise, my feminist friends want me to believe that men are out to get me and behave accordingly, with my guard up. If I'm going to have my guard up that much, I'm not going to date. And men aren't winning any prizes for coercing women into sex. Just get a hooker--seriously, the toxicity is too much.

Every previous generation has understood this, but we somehow we're in the middle of a battle of the sexes?

If you feel this way about the opposite sex just don't date. It's not healthy to be thinking all the time what "evil" women or men are doing. Focus on creating something positive in your life.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-12-27T02:52:52+00:00

Most women are useless. Except my girlfriend, and a few others that I respect and love. My girlfriend is an exceptional woman.

There, see how can have the cake and eat it?

LetMeBeYourDadPls · 2019-12-27T00:58:33+00:00

How are MGTOW obsessed with sex and attractive women? I'm mgtow.. that doesn't describe me at all. Way to generalize though.

CamoWoobie420 · 2019-12-27T00:44:07+00:00

Being gay isnt a choice. I hate women but I love pussy. My horniness is stronger than my hatred so im willing to put up with females if it means I get to bang

Emervila · 2019-12-26T22:27:24+00:00

Do you get MGTOW=Incels and FSD=femcels? they lost their path and minds long ago.

People will always analyze and criticize each other if anything, subs and places like this one serve a purpose: understanding for better interacting with each other. Isolation and gender apartheid is not the solution. The more we discuss perspective and topics the closer we are to understand and find balance.

Use radicals as an example of what an avg person thinks or does it's simply wrong. A lot of men and women debate these things in hopes to get tools and interact better with the opposite gender, following your lead will just increase radicalism.

Mongrelcel · 2019-12-27T00:11:16+00:00

I like the idea of women, not what they in reality are

But yeah, i don't have any kind of relations whatsoever

spaceman_spliff777 · 2019-12-27T01:55:33+00:00

All your time is subjective. Posting something for laughs as you take a shit is a bit different than some sweaty, feverishly shit-posting all day.

At the end of the day, most people are kinda shitty. They’re selfish, narcissistic, judge mental, greedy, and worst of all, stuck in their ways. But.... they’re also super fucking horny until hormones tell them otherwise, which is a recipe for what we have featured in your post.

Could be because we weren’t meant to live in a world with access to millions of each other, disconnected, but here we are.

Chrchgrl85 · 2019-12-27T04:38:11+00:00

Both of those views are cringe worthy. If a woman thinks men are so bad, why are you with one?

Epoch789 · 2019-12-28T15:09:26+00:00

I agree with you but just to exercise the discussion muscles:

You don’t need to be okay with the entire collective of the opposite gender. You enter a relationship with one person at a time.

What the trashing does (other than serve a means to vent) is attempt to establish personal or societal standards for good partner traits and hopefully influence the behavior of the opposite gender so that if the trashing is taken to heart - someone can undergo personal development and become a more ideal partner.

Whether negative feedback is your preferred means of influence or not, negative emotions can be a powerful motivator.

Pdaley99 · 2019-12-28T19:46:09+00:00

Most posts in those subs are mostly hyperbolic. 90% of them don’t actually think that women should be enslaved or men should be castrated or whatever, although there is certainly a lot of misogyny and misandry in those subs
I think a lot of people are inherently bad or hateful. Irl most people you meet are nice to you if you are nice to them back. That doesn’t make you a good person, that just makes you a normal functioning member of society. On the internet, you can say fucked up stuff and not get judged. Hence the subs you mentioned

theredditgotme · 2020-04-24T15:19:10+00:00

The people of those groups deserve each other

fooormaaaanmills · 2019-12-26T20:54:32+00:00

I like this point of view. But have you ever heard people talk about their own appearance or their family? They vent in the same way. I think our discourse just needs some Chomsky level awareness. We must realize the words we choose will take a life of their own. I think we as a culture need so much therapy and feedback starting from our first words! Inshallah if Bernie wins it will be less expensive to become a counselor and train others

TheJim66 · 2019-12-26T21:51:40+00:00

If this is your view of the opposite sex, stop sleeping with them, stop dating them, and get on with your life. You might as well just date each and go gay/lesbian or be asexual and forego any of that altogether.

And what if I don't?

Dustin_Bromain · 2019-12-27T04:51:19+00:00

You seem to have an obsession with “toxic” and “disgusting” views that people have without actually getting into the substance of the topic at hand.

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popfriday · 2019-12-27T19:23:39+00:00

Hi OP! I’m the bitch from FDS you quoted!! I made this comment on a thread talking about how women like me are miserable to date. I don’t have the energy to write something new so I’ll copy and paste what I said in that thread. Good job cropping my words to better suit your post tho :) I don’t blame you though that was some harsh ass shit I said. But for the record I’m not a man hater. I just recognize most are sex addicts. Men on this very sub admit to thinking about sex every 7 minutes. That is a sick nature to me. It’s normal to y’all. Probably natural. But to me it’s sick because it lends to a lot of cheating and abuse of women, If you’ve never been a target of it, you’ll never understand. I believe all or most men have this nature. I have seen the damage it has done to themselves and others. But I do believe some men can consciously control this behavior if they really try. Like the love of my life does.

In the spirit of fairness as this is the purple pill sub, I will concede this:

As a woman who gets sexual urges and hit on a lot, I also have to be high value enough to ignore and reject advances regularly. 90% of these advances are trash, but 10% could prove tempting if I didn’t fight against what a man might call a woman’s “sick” nature of loving attention from men from seemingly “high value” men. I’d never even go there because my man checks all my boxes, like I do his.

Anyway on to my copy and pasted comment!

OMG I just randomly stumbled upon this thread and am SO honored to have been quoted!! That post of mine was a hit among men lol.

OP conveniently edited out this part of my comment:

“If me being his “possession” in his mind means he treats me, my family and my friends like royalty, protects and raises his children right, and supports me AND isn’t clingy/ actively possessive, whatever. I’m no one’s possession but I am high value that can be easily lost.

Love and attachment are absolutely conditional”

And yet OP tells me I have no business dating. Sure, I have no business dating a man who does not do all of these things. Bad news for all angry men, mine does, and has for the past 3 years.

Why the hellllllll would I be a bitch to my boyfriend? He is such a good man, are you kidding me? I plan to marry this man and he plans on marrying me.

And for the record I never bitch about men in an unsolicited manner. But he knows how I am by how curt I am with my gfs who let their POS bfs get away with disrespect, inconsistency and selfish asshole behavior. I just scoff and say “I’d never give him the time of day”. He is so amused when I do this. I just shrug and say fuck that shit. Then we talk about our next vacation together and what new thing I wanna try in the bedroom.

Good men turn me on. If that makes me a bitch, so be it.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2019-12-27T03:46:45+00:00

Just get off the internet and read a book.

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LLL3peat · 2019-12-27T04:21:12+00:00

Says the guy who doesn’t get invited out to social events.

Come on man, get out of your self depression and get some help. You can’t choose who wants to be around you, you choose who you want to be around. Sometimes less is more

poppy_blu · 2019-12-26T22:15:36+00:00

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CMV: If you are heterosexual and spend all your time trashing people of the opposite sex, you should not have any relationships with people of the opposite sex.

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That isn't an argument.