Women don't know what they want

_the_shape_ · 2015-05-05T05:36:26+00:00

They want alpha fux but they also want beta bucks, but they want the alpha to be a little more sweet and caring and understanding and willing to enter into a relationship with her, but no, that's too much, he overdid it, what a loser with his sappy feelings bullshit, so bored of dating this jerk, and if only their beta bucks would be a little more, oh, I don't know, aggressive? confrontational?, but no, now he's acting like a total asshole, who the hell does he think he is standing up to me like that? where the hell is Chad? Wish Chad would just settle down with me...omg, could you imagine? SWOON! Until he does, and then.....

Yeah, you get the picture..

Ad motherfvcking nauseaum

IllimitableMan · 2015-05-05T06:09:10+00:00

Women want to be told what's right by a guy that believes in he what he is saying. It doesn't matter if what he is saying is true or not, he just needs to believe in what he is saying for her to accept it as gospel.

hamstercide · 2015-05-05T08:57:06+00:00

I believe this is relevant.

scarletspider3 · 2015-05-05T07:24:23+00:00

It's almost like women try to keep men beta with their shitty advice. They want to keep you in the bottom so you can stay an orbiter and a BB insurance plan in case she fails with Chad. They also hate the idea that men clime the SMV ladder, to them that's not 'genuine'.

Remember to watch there behaviors and not there words.

trpbox · 2015-05-05T02:59:23+00:00

I've seen a lot of similar cases, e.g. girls making fun of shirtless guys on Tinder, proceeding to swipe right and initiate conversation. In general you will be shit tested for any type of self improvement.

vengefully_yours · 2015-05-05T08:02:14+00:00

I was doing timekeeping duties at a show last week and started talking to the merch girl during a match.

"He'd be good boyfriend material", in regards to the 6 foot, 270lbs wrestler in the ring.

"I thought you fancy Tank?". Tank is 6 foot, 220lbs, 9% body fat

"Tank is a one night stand. Michael is marriage material"

That's your choice guys. You can be one stand, pantie wetting material. Or you can be cuddly, furry marriage material for the low price of 50% of your worldly possessions.

zxsteven · 2015-05-05T02:31:30+00:00

~WTF, goddamn gains goblins trying to test my devotion to the iron path.

Hahahahaha

moose_war · 2015-05-05T06:34:05+00:00

Pretty sure girls in their 20's go for "dad bods" now...I read it in an article some girl wrote, so it must be true.

fourbet · 2015-05-05T12:37:04+00:00

I've said this here before, but this isn't so much "women don't know what they want" as it is a product of selection/confirmation biases.

What those girls are doing here is exactly what a lot of guys do when they say "I prefer girls who don't wear any makeup". What most guys really mean is "I prefer girls who wear makeup that is so subtle that I hardly notice" and/or I prefer the unicorn 10/10 that can look amazing without any makeup.

If the same guys were dressed in a suit just walking along or swimming in a pool they'd find their physique very nice, but because it's presented as bodybuilding they aren't looking at it in the same way.

It's not the ideal analogy but I hope you get what I'm saying.

epixs · 2015-05-05T07:38:37+00:00

This post reminds me of what literally happened few hours ago... Was at Tom Thumb tonight to pick up milk and women cold approaches me, said I was a big guy and where I worked out . Told that bitch I just do push-ups few times a week. She said good because she doesn't like super obsessed fitness freaks lol...as if those "freaks" would give a 6/7 a chance lol.

Me just doing push-ups is what they want to hear lol . So dillisuional about what it takes to get a god like physique.

TagaKnight · 2015-05-05T02:19:57+00:00

That's quite funny. Did you say anything else to them after?

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-05-05T12:19:28+00:00

Women want what they can't have so if they do finally get what they wanted they don't want it anymore.

The hamster wheel is a woman always trying to climb higher, but never getting anywhere.

Use this knowledge to your advantage.

If a woman isn't engaged in the illusion of climbing in status she gets bored and questions what she is doing. It's too confusing for her to be content.

Captain (60%) / Firstmate (40%) is really the ideal because it keeps the woman very happy spinning on the hamster wheel. But be reminded she will complain the whole way because... well spinning the hamster wheel is hard work, she's the victim after all. (in her mind)

Happiness and subtle victimhood blur together.

Cyralea · 2015-05-05T13:16:28+00:00

Women don't know anything beyond what they feel at that given moment. Slobbering over muscled dudes makes them appear socially improper, so they hamster things like this.

They get tingles for ripped dudes with low body fat, they just don't want the world to think they're shallow.

symko · 2015-05-05T15:09:49+00:00

Yes, never believe a woman. Very hypocritical creature and they know they can get away easily with it in this sick society.

What they want? They don't really want sex. You know that. What they want????????? They want baby and a monthly paycheck from YOU

4benny2lava0 · 2015-05-05T06:57:10+00:00

They want an attractive guy but not too attractive that they have a. Easy choice in women, she can't use and manipulate a man like that.

gimmieareason · 2015-05-05T12:59:52+00:00

goddam gain goblins at it again!

_bluerabbit_ · 2015-05-05T05:35:09+00:00

Women know what they what, they just don't want men knowing

BrianW1999 · 2015-05-05T04:29:23+00:00

This seems to be an American woman thing. They are critical of men's looks in the most trivial way; like one eyebrow is higher than the other. I've never heard foreign women critique men like that.

trpfieldreport · 2015-05-05T14:55:35+00:00

One of my friends is pretty alpha. He's had sex with A LOT of different women.

On several occasions I've heard girls talk about how they don't find him attractive at all and they don't understand what girls see in him. Sometime after, might be a few months or a few years they end up having sex with him. Clearly they were always attracted to him they just don't want to admit it. I don't understand why though. This has happened with 3 girls I can think of.

LukesLikeIt · 2015-05-06T01:57:14+00:00

In a way it's because women are obsessed with social power (social hierarchy). Simply put this power struggle has 3 groups in her head; 1 Alpha, 2 Women, 3 Beta.

She wants to make men beta to validate her own power as she see's it.

She considers herself a level above such men in importance and social power.

But she is attracted to the alpha as his influence will increase her own by association etc. She will offer herself as tribute for this increase in social status but when you don't reciprocate after fucking her by committing or making the relationship exclusive she will call you an asshole etc for "tricking" her.

She will continue to come back for more for a few reasons, her biological imperative to mate with a attractive strong male that fucks well for one, but on a social level because (since she's addicted to social power) it is the closest she will ever get to the step above what she considers her own level and what she constantly strives for.

Which is why you can never submit to her, because once she has your "power" (you give it to her) she will consider you group 1 and go back to looking for a group 3 replacement.

Make no mistake, she might stay with you in the meantime if you're already in a difficult to end relationship but once she becomes open to the idea she can get someone better it's over for you.

Women only look up.

2015-05-05T08:10:09+00:00

Women don't like fit men, when they can't get some

wakethfkupneo · 2015-05-05T12:15:06+00:00

Can't remember where I found it, but there was a study of women's preference to muscular guys based on their ovulatory cycle. Long story short: when they are not ovulating, they prefer ordinary vanilla looking guys (BB obviously), but when they are in Ovulation Week^tm (in pursuit of AF) then the more there's muscle the wider their legs spread.

This is also why online surveys about the subject are misleading: none of them take into account ovulatory cycle of participants, so you get mixed results from women in non-ovul-bb-mode and in-ovul-af-mode. Ask the same "swoleshaming agents of Broki" exactly the same question, only two weeks later - and you get the opposite answer. And yea, women, being slaves to their fluid emotions, do not have a fucking clue what they want.

Philhelm · 2015-05-05T15:04:50+00:00

Women know what they want; they are simply pathological liars.

nsummy · 2015-05-05T06:16:11+00:00

I take with a grain of salt anything a girl living in the dorm has to say. I honestly don't know why people get upset or even waste a second of their day pondering the ideals of some women. Of course when I was in college anything that threatened my thoughts upset me too.

Now that I'm older though, I don't care. I look how I want, dress how I want, I have my own goals. I take constructive criticism from the opposite sex but I am not going to change who I am for a female. But to take what they said in context, think about yourself. You might like small girls, girls with big asses, redheads, huge chests, whatever. There are a lot of types of girls who I don't find particularly attractive. What I still turn them down? No, I just wouldn't actively seek or be with them long term.

StrikePrice · 2015-05-05T04:09:49+00:00

I said that out loud at a bar one night (too much drinking) and every white knight in the place was all over me. Was fun smacking them down, but damn, this one pushes buttons.

oldredder · 2015-05-05T19:59:38+00:00

I think a lot of women don't like fit/in shape guys (not hugely muscular bodybuilders or anything) because the thought of being in a relationship with one makes them insecure, or because they project perceived personality traits that are unrelated.

They like the physical side of it, but it makes their hamster spin in that they're concerned that were they to be in a relationship with one, they'd be more likely to cheat, and/or the woman would have to put in a similar amount of effort to be in similar physical shape.

Basically, being in shape is, in and of itself, a form of soft dread. "If he's in good shape, he's more likely to have more options, therefor I will have to put in more effort into the relationship in order to keep his attention." Women don't like the idea of dread, despite the fact that they appear to respond well to it.

oldredder · 2015-05-07T05:02:09+00:00

I know what women want: chocolate, validation and this

xray777 · 2015-05-05T06:20:35+00:00

That's a shit test. That's a good sign. Chicks don't shit test guys they aren't interested in.

2015-05-05T10:14:40+00:00

This attitude is a form of mediocrity worship. Those girls are not HB9's. They don't have slim lines and tight curves and thus as a means to validate their own appearance by proxy, they say that a similar physique in men appeals to them.

Because if they can vaguely hold a man's mediocre body in the highest regard they can more easily hold their own average body in a similar regard.

I've seen girls have physical reactions to touching abs/arms that make the phrase "turned on" make much more sense. Those same girls can be dripping wet while saying "muscles are gross". The ones that say that are practically begging for a show of strength or power. Pick a girl up off the ground after saying that and you'll find yourself standing in a pool.

GayLubeOil · 2015-05-05T10:09:58+00:00

Red Meat is the key to gains. Nothing aids recovery like Red Meat not even vitamin S.

crabtree_throwaway · 2015-05-05T09:13:32+00:00

Based on true stories. Here is a pattern observed over time. This one story to illustrate how true your judgement is. Girl complains about new guy she met. Whine whine complain complain... He talks too much.. Wish he leaves me alone... He is shamelessly hitting on me... Blah blah blah... And forward a week later.. She is banging him. Now she says they have a special relationship. Truth was that he had a place where she could hangout and smoke up.. When she was in town..

peragrine · 2015-05-05T23:14:51+00:00

This is an example of one female, yet you're broadcasting this to generalize every woman out there. I've encountered women who are total bimbos but that doesn't make them all stupid. I've encountered men who are assholes but that doesn't mean every man I meet is going to be a dick.

DumpyLips · 2015-05-05T16:21:51+00:00

I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that I think those girls were trying to flirt with you. The misunderstanding is they were flirting with you the way they want to be flirted with. I think it was their way of saying that thought you were sexy even though you don't look like a body builder.

beginner_ · 2015-05-05T16:36:33+00:00

Just today female co-worker gets excited about some constructions workers working without shirt and telling that these types of guys have the best looking, lean muscles, not too much like body builders. The 1 min later she claims she has no problem with guys with a big gut...yeah sure.

bloody_duck · 2015-05-05T20:46:18+00:00

Or that's the way one of the girls is telling you she wants YOU just the way you are. I feel like you're a crush. Go slay the dragon, OP, and cuddle the shot outta that girl.

DarkisKnight · 2015-05-05T23:49:36+00:00

I've never met a woman that knows what she wants.

BlaiseDB · 2015-05-07T02:15:23+00:00

I'm 48 and was dating a 26 year old (HB8). I had to dump her because she behaved like a child. We had a great dating relationship but when I wanted to get more serious she would avoid me. We spent 4 days jumping all over each other for Chinese New Year but didn't do the deed. Then she disappears for a month. Then she reappears and wants to sleep with me, but insists that we are not serious. Then she says that she wants to get a visa and come with me to Canada to meet my family. I say 'great' and tell her to come over so I can fuck her brains out and then I will call my people to get her the visa. She gets all incensed and tells me that she won't fuck me until I get her a visa. FUCK THAT. . .NEXT.

So now I opted for someone a bit older and more mature (HB6). The challenge will be to get her to maintain herself.

BlackHeart89 · 2015-05-05T13:37:37+00:00

Yeah. I remember an ex of mine talking about how she didn't want me to lose weight. How she didn't want me to put on too much muscle. Etc etc.

Months after we broke up, I came back with more muscle and a six-pack. We started fucking on a regular basis after that.

I look back on how stupid I was not to go all out in the gym while I was with her because she had me thinking that shit was somehow unattractive. After we broke up, I said "fuck it. I'll find a bitch out there somewhere that likes it." Been in the gym going hard ever since.

oldredder · 2015-05-06T19:22:14+00:00

The male equivalent is looking at a well-put-together woman, but one that obviously spends a lot of time on their appearance: "she's too high maintenance".

No, she isn't. She's higher maintenance than you. You know this will lead to an imbalance later: it's nothing more than spidey-sense for priorities in life. Guys (yes, even straight men) who focus on their appearance (sales, etc.) are no more and no less "high maintenance" than that woman.

Some super-toned athletic girl? "Health freak"

No, just more concerned with health than you are. Again this is preemptive dismissal by using yourself as the gold standard against which to measure.

Outspoken, razor-sharp wit, and loves a good verbal spar? "Uppity bitch."

(This paragraph left as an exercise for the reader).

Would you turn down those women if they wanted a quick fuck? Nope. No long-term cognitive dissonance between who you want in a partner, and who you are yourself. LTR? Potential disastrous consequences for your ego.

The more and more I observe people's behavior, the more and more I learn that a whole swath of it boils down to confirmation bias and ego preservation.

bluedrygrass · 2015-05-05T06:47:23+00:00

This is a people-thing. Men do it too. We like the pornstar-look, but we also like the girl-next-door-look.

2015-05-05T12:09:45+00:00

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UlyssesElias · 2015-05-05T04:04:20+00:00

Chicks tell me all the time that their ideal male body is that of a dancer or a pilates instructor--not of an inverted triangle with big shoulders. Chicks love shapely legs and buttocks.

Men are the ones who perpetuate the myth that women like inverted triangles. They don't!

Title	Women don't know what they want
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