“Empowered Women” and debt

Comprehensive_Bus525 · 2021-06-22T14:07:36+00:00

It’s all about image.

A lot of these cars are leased and I know one who went through three high-end Audi’s in 1.5 years. Generating negative equity.

They confuse cash flow with wealth.

gtowerthrowaway · 2021-06-22T14:46:51+00:00

Women hold the vast majority of consumer debt.

Men have always understood that you don't trust women with money.

Sure, there's the talented 10% that can manage a bank account. But most just dwell in the short-term, and can't understand the ramifications of immediate spending.

Marque01 · 2021-06-22T14:04:02+00:00

Keeping up with the Joneses. That's why you don't marry them. All they do there is Keep Up using your money

Groundbreaking_the2 · 2021-06-22T15:17:50+00:00

"... so delusional or believe society will bend to their very will..."

It already is... they're starting to forgive college debt. Give it a year or two and all college debt will be gone. Then women will move onto their next list of demands.

c42h70w · 2021-06-22T14:56:35+00:00

Not so sound mean, but I heard from a friend that upwards of 80-85% of people in LA live paycheck to paycheck and are on the brink of potential poverty 24/7.

BuildItMakeIt · 2021-06-22T16:10:24+00:00

Of course, they do this on purpose. When a man marries, he will inherit her debt. They know exactly what they're doing.

redditorseattle91 · 2021-06-22T16:29:33+00:00

California just declared that the government is paying off ALL the unpaid rent since the pandemic began. More states to follow soon.

We're finding those lifestyle despite being MGTOW - in fact we pay more taxes because married people get tons of tax exemptions.

https://abc7.com/california-evictions-eviction-moratorium-rent-help-unpaid/10816581/

"The expectation for people to be up and at 'em and ready to pay rent on July 1 is wholeheartedly unfair," said Kelli Lloyd, a 43-year-old single mother who says she has not worked consistently since the pandemic began in March 2020.
Lloyd - a member of the advocacy group Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment - is supposed to pay $1,924 a month for a two-bedroom, two-bathroom rent-controlled apartment in the Crenshaw district of south Los Angeles. But she says she's $30,000 behind after not working for most of the last year.

This is from the linked article - that single mom needs 2B2B apartment just for herself and 2 kids that costs $2000 per month. WTF. And on top of that she's complaining that paying of ALL her due rent is NOT ENOUGH, and it's unfair that she will have to start paying her own rent again.

MeGoingTOWin · 2021-06-22T18:06:03+00:00

Schopenhaurer nailed their present focused nature which is why they buy buy buy and never save save save as they dont see the future. This is why if they dont find a man who saves saves saves they end up working until they are 70, living in an apt and never travelling.

From Schopenhaur's "On Women":

Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.

nplusultra · 2021-06-22T14:44:35+00:00

I don't think they earn at all.

GYOWAndy · 2021-06-22T15:20:18+00:00

One of the fiscally responsible things I've learned is to pay that balance in full down. This has the effect of 0 interest paid regardless of what the APR is. This is something that eludes many, including some elected socialists.

ObsidianAdonis · 2021-06-22T16:22:23+00:00

There are reasons why women holds most debts in the United States. Below gents are facts about women in debts and for the Black Brothers of this thread be careful of your educated women they are the most in debts amongst the women.

Though more than 75 percent of all Americans have at least one credit card, and the average person has 3.7 with about $5,600 in outstanding balances, women are more likely than men to mishandle their accounts and run into larger debts as a consequence, according to new data from FINRA."

Americans carry an estimated $1.5 trillion in student loan debt, and nearly two-thirds of that amount, or $929 billion, is held by women.

The figures come from the American Association of University Women. The association also found that Black women finish their undergraduate education with more debt than all other graduates.

Black women have an even more difficult time repaying loans due to both gender and racial discrimination. The American Association of University Women estimated Black women leave school with $37,558 in average debt, the highest of any group. This compared to $35,665 for Black men, $31,346 for White women and $29,862 for White men. And note: The average student loan figures don't include students who manage to graduate with no debt at all.

NickTesla2018 · 2021-06-22T16:40:38+00:00

The 30K millionaires. OnlyFans / sugar daddies / stupid boyfriends are paying for alot of that lifestyle.

joselyncanosbutt · 2021-06-22T17:08:38+00:00

Very true but don't underestimate how many of these "empowered women" are selling ass either via camsites or downright prostitution/sugar baby scenarios.

9trogenta · 2021-06-22T18:19:26+00:00

They get flooded by simp's money as soon as they turn 18 and get used to the lifestyle.

The rest of their lives is getting in debt just to keep up while waiting for prince charming.

RhinoTheGreat · 2021-06-22T14:27:24+00:00

I've been watching this in LA too. I haven't seen the end result of their habits yet. I'm mid 30's so these women I've been involved with haven't quite hit rock bottom yet. I'm waiting patiently.

Idiodyssey87 · 2021-06-22T14:45:10+00:00

In fairness, buying cars they can't afford is a unisex phenomenon. Guys do it because chicks can't look at a car and tell if it's debt or equity spending.

silly_birb · 2021-06-22T15:03:41+00:00

Long term things are not for women, inhave yet to see a woman investing money on stocks.

Then they ask why there's a gebder wage gap... duh, just invest...

Failedalife · 2021-06-22T15:55:04+00:00

They woman realy cared about kids and children they had not donated debts to them

Cursedwithknowing · 2021-06-22T16:13:13+00:00

I just let them go to their doom. Let them go broke.

gnackered · 2021-06-22T17:18:17+00:00

I am amused that most of the luxury SUV are driven by attractive middle aged women. Knowing they are like 60-70% leased makes me chuckle.

But it impacts me as well, the wife doesn't drive the latest and greatest but its a decent toyota highlander. I got an ugly, but cosmetic dent on my accord and she gives me a raft of shit about getting it fixed. I am adamant in refusing. The urge to signal is strong.

MGTOW_Morpheus_ · 2021-06-22T16:37:20+00:00

Usual 35 year old woman; $50K in student loans, $10K-$20K in credit cards, $40K in auto loans, $200K in mortgage, $60K in income from her HR job. Living pay cheque to pay cheque as a debt slave while posting on facebook about how she's a strong independent woman with a career.

thehedgehawg · 2021-06-27T06:48:30+00:00

They're betting high on a bailout... simp or government, doesn't matter to them.

OwenWentFullMGTOW · 2021-06-22T19:58:57+00:00

Most women have no natural aptitude for understanding money. It's not a difficult subject so they could learn. But what are the chances of that? And since they're so image conscious, they never think about saving money or investing it or whatever. If they somehow get their hands on $25k, their first thought is to make a down payment on a brand new Mercedes.

Yes, there are women who are exceptions to that. And there are some men who are just as bad. But the fact remains that men would generally prefer to invest that money (or at least save it) while women would generally prefer to spend it right away.

rubix_fucked · 2021-06-22T20:22:34+00:00

The house of cards implodes when they are past expiry and remain unmarried. There is no one else to carry their crippling debt and retirement for them is as much of a fantasy as marriage and kids.

rebuildingMyself · 2021-06-22T21:30:43+00:00

The goal is to run up debt while on the cock carousel, hit the wall, then marry a beta and dump the debt onto him.

urbanspun1989 · 2021-06-22T22:36:03+00:00

Bro I worked at a Honda dealership before. Imagine buying a basic level Honda Accord and paying almost 800 bucks a month(2019)I remember my first week and I was shadowing and this girl maybe late 20s was asking for help because she had not made 2 payments and the 3rd one was coming up.

LuigiC173 · 2021-06-22T23:01:02+00:00

best enlightened thought you can have in your efforts to adhere from ladies, more often than not the young hot ones are broke as shit with debt up to their eye balls

boogalooshrimp1103 · 2021-06-23T01:27:22+00:00

They make a little money and buy that used C class benz now all of a sudden they too good for a 4 for $4

drmangrum · 2021-06-23T02:02:03+00:00

What's really telling is how they don't understand that but claiming they're "empowered" they're admitting they only have the power given to them by men. What can be given, can be taken away.

Adawk91 · 2021-06-23T15:59:28+00:00

I live in Dallas and we call these types of people $30,000 millionaires. Lots of dudes do it too, to impress/ deceive vain women who pick their sexual partners based on the money and status they would bring to her.

I think this is a game that banks play, both parties borrow a ton during the courting/ dating phase so they are good little revenue streams once they settle down. You have to establish a credit history with a credit card and a car loan before they will lend you money on a house you know.

AriaEarthMars · 2021-06-24T08:05:30+00:00

Let them be ignorant while we profit from their interest payment and consumption. Their buying power increases economy of scale and makes things cheaper for us.

PebbleYote · 2021-06-22T21:07:12+00:00

Just about every woman would be considered a colossal loser if they were a man. Literally every ounce of push for "socialism" is because women are abject failures when pitted against men, and need daddy gubment to bail them out for votes.

Miserable-Lemon · 2021-06-22T21:27:22+00:00

I have not met a single woman who had a retirement plan or money saved up.

starkfuture · 2021-06-23T02:22:25+00:00

I believe everything is designed for this eventuality.

IMHO women are not made to work the everyday grind in competitive fields up until they are 70. Men are.

So, men make consistent money, at least relatively more consistent money than women.

Society tried its best to vest all the financial responsibility of these women on the men that fuck them - husbands, baby daddies and, of late, even boy friends. But this is making the men react in unpredictable ways - MGTOW, Incels, RP aware players...

The next obvious step is to make debt readily available for people with bad reputations for paying them back - how many banks are getting bailed out?

Then Pinning their hopes on these women becoming really empowered and self reliant, by providing them with unlimited student loans - backed up by the tax payer.

All social experiments fail, just like the economic ones. And when the extraneous meddling stops, then they all die alone. There is no going back now, the genie is out of the bottle. Any societal backtracking will not take decades, but generations - too bad for for them, people live to be over 80 these days. So, the next 100 years.

Title	“Empowered Women” and debt
Author	ShelterBeautiful
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Date	June 22, 2021 1:53 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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