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Babe’s Aziz Ansari piece was a gift to anyone who wants to derail #MeToo (WaPo)

Kasper-X-Hauser

January 16, 2018
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Title Babe’s Aziz Ansari piece was a gift to anyone who wants to derail #MeToo (WaPo)
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Kasper-X-Hauser

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Date January 16, 2018 1:41 AM UTC
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[–][deleted] 553 points554 points555 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dave Chappelle put it best. Some of these #MeToo women are victims, are some are hoes experiencing buyer's remorse.

[–]howlforstate 106 points107 points108 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That new special is fire

[–]imoblivioustothis 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the two netflix series are amazing

[–]kellykebab 391 points392 points393 points 8 years ago (84 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the rare cases where every new bit of information I read makes one party (Aziz) sound better and better and the other sound like a complete lunatic.

At this point, I almost wonder if this was a troll article or simple revenge piece. If this was the worst night in this young woman's life, she has lived an incredibly coddled existence regardless of class or privilege.

[–]wallace321 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's one of those cases where there really are some people who have it genuinely shitty; shitty parents, shitty childhood, shitty upbringing, shitty chance at a decent life.

Some well-off person hears about this hardship, thinks they can relate because their barista spelled their name on their coffee cup this morning with one 'T' instead of two, and wants in on the pity party genuine show of sympathy and support without realizing how embarrassing their concept of "hardship" is and how it undermines people with actual problems. See also, most social justice warriors.

[–]kellykebab 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my observation most social justice warriors are actually middle or lower middle class and develop a giant chip on their shoulder partly by either getting scholarships to schools with more affluent peers or missing out on those scholarships and not receiving the education they think they deserve.

Many people in the 5-1% of income are very liberal, but they tend to be less outspoken due to social mores/manners in the upper middle class as well as ambivalence about being both relatively well off and critical of capitalism.

Maybe I'm generalizing too broadly, but most social justice warriors seem to be average to below average attractiveness with some kind of depression/anxiety issues, and generally poor self-esteem and fitness.

My impression is that many of them do have shitty backgrounds, but perhaps not quite the shitty backgrounds of the extreme poor.

That said, I have met individuals with working class backgrounds, abuse, and drug issues in their families who are very, very hardcore liberal and pro-identity politics.

This is not exclusively a fad of the rich.

[–]phillies261 points 8 years ago [recovered] (79 children) | Copy Link

If this was the worst night in this young woman's life, she has lived an incredibly coddled existence regardless of class or privilege

Sounds like your average rich attractive white girl tbh. So used to getting everything you want whenever you want, that the concept of "no" is earth shattering

[–]6ickle 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

He didn't let her choose her wine. It's rather outrageous.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not to mention the fact that white wine(which Aziz chose) is always paired with seafood because it's better.

[–]Hellse 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like she'd have any clue about that. I'd bet she's quite used to putting in exactly zero effort when it comes to dating, and quite possibly many other things.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

classic wine rape, my friend

[–]martin59825 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Textbook wine rape

[–]Porsche959 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whine rape?

[–]kellykebab 55 points56 points57 points 8 years ago (71 children) | Copy Link

No, even rich people have disappointments in life, argue with their families, or have falling outs with their friends. No one has a perfect life.

This bitch is either seriously brain dead, highly creative, or a troll.

[–]PickleWickleton 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or she’s a career victim

[–]jason2306 33 points34 points35 points 8 years ago (67 children) | Copy Link

No one has a perfect life but being rich makes your life way better.

[–]condorama 77 points78 points79 points 8 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link

Rich, pretty, women have the easiest lives of anyone in western society.

[–]jason2306 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link

Well they live one of the easiest lives yeah, but the top percent lives the easiest.

[+]KaribouLouDied -16 points-15 points-14 points 8 years ago* (45 children) | Copy Link

No the top percent more than likely work their asses off every day.

Edit: Can't believe I got downvoted for this. Anyone who doesn't believe this is in denial.

[–]uknowitstrue 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I do work for a fair amount of millionaires regularly. Usually one person in a typical top percent family works hard (which may or may not involve screwing other people over).

The rest of the family are, quite often, entitled, vapid, stereotypical dumb rich kids/wives.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Michael Bluth thought so

[–]KaribouLouDied -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

stereotypical dumb rich kids/wives.

They're not the top percent then, their dad/mom are.

[–]uknowitstrue 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They're not the top percent then, their dad/mom are.

We are talking about the top one percent families - that includes their kids.

And, from an earlier comment in the thread:

No the top percent more than likely work their asses off every day. Edit: Can't believe I got downvoted for this. Anyone who doesn't believe this is in denial.

You either:

  1. Don't know any substantial number of actual rich people, or how they earn and/or maintain their wealth.

  2. You are a member of a rich family who is in denial yourself about how nobly your family fortune was gained.

[–]Hashtag_Nailed_It 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don’t know how the phrase “top one percent” works, do you?

[–]Hashtag_Nailed_It 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don’t know how a major business works, do you?

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I know plenty of people who work way harder than rich people and don't make shit. Shut up with that rich dad mentality...

[–]KaribouLouDied -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck are you on about. So you know "plenty" of people. Great for you dude. But we're talking about the top percent, not random rich people. Pull your head out of your ass and learn to comprehend.

[–]Hashtag_Nailed_It 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don’t know how rebuttals work, do you?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like a response from a kid with a rich dad. Don't you have brunch to go to or some shit? Excuse me, I'm working.

[–]40gallonbreeder -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The top 1% of earners in America made a household total of 470,000 or more in 2014. The top 1% of earners in the world made 30,000 or more.

Those random rich people are likely 1%ers.

[+]jason2306 -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

No I said the top percent, people like bill gates.

[–]jduder107 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

How do you think Bill Gates got so rich? He was born middle class. He worked his ass off.

[+]jason2306 -17 points-16 points-15 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Is he working 400x times harder than a "normal" worker? Hhe fact that he has such a ridiculous amount of income is not a good thing, wealth is distributed poorly.

[–]sussinmysussness 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Bill Gates isn't the top percent. He's the top 0.000000001 percent. The comment above you is correct. You might be the top percent without even knowing it.

[–]Cagg 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Bill Gates is technically in the top 1%. However his level of wealth puts him also as the top .000(insert a bunch of zeros)001% as well. He's also in the top 99% and 15% and top 13%. I think you understand the point now.

[–]sussinmysussness -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's beyond me you're downvoted.

[–]KaribouLouDied -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Typical Reddit poor me mentality. Hard work does pay off.

[–]Hashtag_Nailed_It 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You don’t know how working works, do you?

[–]kellykebab 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure, but anyone would have had much worse days than this before age 23 or however old she was.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You have everything you need. Nothing excites you anymore. People are fake. Looking constantly for the next thrill and high.

Here I am excited about adding sour cream to a burrito or waiting for something special on redbox. Hot damn!!!! :P

[–]jason2306 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well no I don't have anything I need because I don't have enough money to sustain living. Also it's nice to be excited about simple things, it's the little things in life you can savour. Burritos are dope after all. Anyway few things excite me and I have probably have been depressed for years, and I think money definitely played a factor in that.

[–]Hashtag_Nailed_It 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait...wait...SOUR CREAM. you a wild one! I can’t even handle you. Which reminds me... I need sour cream for my burrito

[+]DrJ209 -26 points-25 points-24 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Ever heard the phrase “mo’ money, mo’ problems”?

[–]jason2306 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and it's a load of shit, just because money can cause issues doesn't mean it's better to be poor.

[+]DrJ209 -25 points-24 points-23 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Never said it was better to be poor. Apparently you have the reading comprehension of a 4 year old. I’m simply stating that having money doesn’t fix all problems and in fact can lead to a few unique problems on its own.

[–]jason2306 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Congrats you are a passive aggressive twat, you came in with a low effort comment yet decided to imply I have poor reading comprehension.

[–]kragshot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In their defense, the phrase "more money, more problems" is not meant to be taken as written...it is known to be a dig at rich people.

But, hey... I am just a bystander trying to keep a fender bender from becoming a five-alarm....

[+]DrJ209 -17 points-16 points-15 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What’s passive aggressive about my last comment? I’d say it was full on aggressive. Now if you want to argue the point about money and happiness, I’ll be waiting. But if you want to keep crying about my “passive aggressive” comment like a bitch, don’t even bother anymore.

[–]jason2306 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Ah that's cute, I think you have been projecting a bit, because you are the one with poor reading comprehension. Why did you think I had any intention to discuss anything with a terrible person such as yourself? Just move on and try to be less of a dick next time if you actually want to have a discussion.

[–]utopista114 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, looking for a house with a hangar big enough for my private plane is a bitch. Damn you Travolta! You took it from me!

[–]happyslaughterhouse 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look, Travolta had to move to Ocala to accommodate his planes. OCALA! Have you ever been to Ocala. The struggle is real.

[–]rumblith 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An attention whore maybe.

[–]cronidollars 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, fuck white people

[–]smacksaw 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

privilege

For all the talk about privilege these days, you have to be awfully privileged to write an article as she did, make those sorts of allegations and subject your accused to a public trial like that.

If privilege really is a thing, she is absolutely abusing hers.

Or, correctly said, she is abusing the nascent privilege being gained for ACTUAL VICTIMS by the #metoo movement.

[–]whatsthereason567 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How many men do you think she's been sexist towards, how many objectified, how many abused and harassed? Time to cut contact with that gender.

[–]digitalpizza1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

‘It was white,’ she said. ‘I didn’t get to choose and I prefer red, but it was white wine.’

Not getting the wine you prefer is sexual assault

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points37 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly Aziz is a monster!

[–]Expert__Witness 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile, he was taking her to an oyster bar. Food that pairs with WHITE wine. But she just feels the male oppression. This plebeian needs to get the fuck over herself.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points53 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A girl bought me a beer once. That was cool... I don't think these girls realize how easy they have it sometimes...

[–]pugmommy4life420 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What a fucking pig!!!! What kind of a heartless animal offers someone WHITE wine!! How dare he!!!!

[–]rg90184 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White wine with Oysters even!? What kind of monster has a passing knowledge of what wine pairs with seafood better. Clearly Aziz is super villain levels of evil.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet his butler didn't even chill it beforehand! That savage!

[–]20thsieclefox 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I read that and knew this bitch was dumb from the start.

[–]ABrownLamp 249 points250 points251 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I mean she sucked his dick twice for God sakes. And used non verbal cues to let him know she was uncomfortable. Wtf lady.

[–]AnnA_99_1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

I began to undress in front of him. I wanted him to see my lack of excitement, of enthusiasm, but he didn't react. It was degrading and I wanted it to stop, so I asked him to get naked with me. He still didn't realise how uncomfortable it is to be naked, so I looked deep into his eyes to show him my need to be back home, back to safety. 'Oh yeah?' I thought to myself, the mood was getting heated but my clam was still as cold as the oyster he served for dinner.

When we moved to the couch, I took his dick as deep into my mouth as possible. I needed him to understand that I don't want sex, this isn't consensual, he is using me! Yet he simply moaned into my ear. "Babe this is the best private show I ever got! Can you believe it? Wait until I tell my parents about this," he joked playfully, while I used my tongue to angrily caress his dick. This isn't what I want, this is uncomfortable, how can he do this to me?

"Babe, babe, slow down," he demanded, so I simply sucked on his dick even harder. This is my revenge. This will show him that non-consensual sex is a horrible nightmare. When he came, I swallowed every last drop -- stealing his essence. Robbery and assault. Neither one of us will ever be the same again after this traumatic experience. I will write a blog post about this._

[–]GXKLLA 51 points52 points53 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Took me to the last paragraph to realize this isn’t the original article. Very well done, sir.

[–]MarsViltaire 43 points44 points45 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

50 shades of Brown?

[–]huskies4life 23 points24 points25 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

WTF..

[–]BodrickTheBrave1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

FYI that comment is just a parody, not an excerpt

[–]BlazyBlaze 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could have fooled me

[–]BadgerPuncher 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How dumb can she be, and how dumb can anyone be to believe her?

""Babe, babe, slow down," he demanded, so I simply sucked on his dick even harder. This is my revenge." -- BUHAHA THIS WILL SHOW HIM.

[–]BadgerPuncher -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS BEING DOWN VOTED.

FUCK YOU.

[–]casemodsaltI masturbate to big men pissing on me..... alot 144 points145 points146 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just because I've got a guys dick in my mouth a few times, doesn't mean I'm consenting! Even if I agree to it.

#nomeansno #yesmeansno #anythingmeansnowhenifeellikeit

[–]ABrownLamp 88 points89 points90 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I sucked his cock harder and harder to show him how uncomfortable I was with the whole thing. But he persisted so I started gagging on it to show him how disgusted I was. When that didn't work I used non verbal cues by spitting on his dick and looking in his eyes angrily. I was horrified and I said to myself, I'm only going to do this one more time and if he doesn't get it I'm leaving

[–]Shnoochieboochies 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/#metoo

[–]srtor 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

#YouToo

[–]bomi3ster 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[redacted]

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just spit my coffee out laughing at that one.

[–]KosstAmojan 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s pretty telling that this story was published anonymously in an online rag that no one had ever heard of.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably used her teeth?

[–]FreshNothingBurger 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And allegedly used non verbal cues

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She used plenty of non verbal queues, like getting naked, sucking dick, letting someone eat her out, the list goes on and on.

[–]allisfullpavlov 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Technically sucking a dick is still a nonverbal cue

[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

None verbal perhaps but it was definitely an oral clue that she was ok with it.

[–]FreshNothingBurger 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And allegedly used non verbal cues

[–]ABrownLamp 84 points85 points86 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[–]visvavasu2 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2018 gentlemen

[–]Vawnn 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this is the new way women turn down giving a blowjob, I'm all for it!

[–]its_a_me_garri_oh -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"He should have known... because I turned cold"

What, like the guy in X-Men?

[–]faded_jester 273 points274 points275 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

On one hand I applaud them for even putting out this article but on the other hand they completely ignore the part they continuously play in all of this nonsense.

The idea of "Maybe we shouldn't automatically jump to any conclusions." is always immediately shouted down as sexism against women. They tend to create a buzzword/phrase and then use it to dismiss anyone who doubts the official narrative. In this case, if you didn't instantly declare Aziz a rapist piece of shit, you were victim blaming and a rape apologist.

It's a tactic that has worked wonderfully for feminism for almost thirty years and it's no wonder every movement founded on "feelz > reelz" has imitated perfectly.

[–]crackedpaint 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Dude, I denied that Louis C. K. did the shit he did until he confessed. This shit with Aziz is exactly that, shit. She wanted her 5 minutes of fame and she's getting it.

Edit: spelling. Dang you Autocorrect!

[–]kragshot 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The only thing that we should be lambasting Louis CK for is being pathetic.

If he felt like he couldn't ask for the pussy, then he should have just kept his dick in his pants until after those women left. He decided to enact one of his pathetic-ass comic routines in real life and look at what it got him. You don't do punk-ass shit like that...SMH.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His story was so fucking pathetic, I can't imagine anyone feeling remotely intimidated by that. Certainly not enough to stick around, unless you thought it was worth potentially bumping your career.

[–]Aedra-and-Daedra 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But isn't that a humiliation fetish? It would fit the bill as he's the kind of guy who goes on stage and plays the clown for everyone to laugh at. He puts out his belly to show everyone how disgusting it is. Would only make sense to have some women watch him while he's doing pathetic things.

[–]kragshot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Perhaps, but that doesn't make that shit cool.

Furthermore, whatever your fetish is, you don't just spring it on people unwarranted...even if that is part of it. You don't subject other people to your weird shit without their informed consent.

More than likely, what happened is he asked those women if he could, and then when he whipped out his junk they said either out loud or in their heads:

"Wait...this ain't a Louis CK joke; he's fucking serious?"

[–]Aedra-and-Daedra 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could be that they were frozen in shock. But didn't they consent to it? I haven't done much reading about this.

[–]TripleSkeet 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Heres the best part. Aziz is being attacked for not verbally getting confirmation for what he could do, right? He missed her "nonverbal cues" like sucking his dick and kissing him I guess. But he never verbally got confirmation from her for what was ok.

Louie DID get verbal confirmation from everyone he jerked off in front of....and still got lambasted.He literally asked each person if he could jack off in front of them, they said ok, and he did. Theres no winning with these things.

[–]allisfullpavlov 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was talking about this with some feminist friends of mine and there's definitely some backlash. I was surprised by how many of my progressive friends were on his side. There's still hope!

[–]Hawkeye797 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Real honest to god feminism is about equality and standing up for their rights and being heard. Unfortunately it has taken a turn where some woman are jumping on this “every man is evil and should be treated as such” feminism bandwagon. It’s takes away from what women have fought for, if you try and make everyone a victim how can thing change for the positive.

[–]Fizics 73 points74 points75 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Um, this monster did not have white wine for her to drink so she had to settle for red He's a fucking monster worse than Hitler

[–]sumrandomoldg 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think they were having seafood. Who has red with seafood. I mean Aziz was imposing that patriarchal view. /S

[–]altxatu 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

According to the other comments, it was the other way around. The silly hoe wanted red, and got white.

[–]Tralan 63 points64 points65 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

to Louis C.K.’s masturbating in front of people without asking

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he ask? Each time?

[–]TheHammer987 57 points58 points59 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. And had consent. Every time.

[+]donfrenchiano -26 points-25 points-24 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldnt call what he had consent. From what i understand some of the women didnt think he was serious and didnt answer and he took that as consent and then they were like WTF is he really doing that shit.

[–]DoveesBloodyBear 113 points114 points115 points 8 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link

Didn't Louis CK ask permission?

[–]Keaner81 89 points90 points91 points 8 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

As far as we know, yes. Still a bit of a strange thing to do, but he did have consent.

[–]Chewitt321 76 points77 points78 points 8 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

The issue that is claimed with Louis though is that whilst he asked permission, it was an abuse of power, saying that because he was more important they said yes when they didn't mean yes. Because nothing says empowering your gender like taking away their capacity to consent and act like an adult when it doesn't suit your narrative.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

So rich men aren't allowed to fuck anyone "below" them now? What about rich women? I'm so confused by these made up rules.

[–]RarelyReadReplies 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I never thought about it that way... He wanted to masturbate in front of some female comedians, but because he's more famous than every female comedian arguably, he is never allowed? Even if he asks and gets a yes? Makes no sense. They are adults, fully capable of giving consent.

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip"I cut my teddy bear a butthole and fucked it from 12-15" 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And taking consent back aparently.

[–]BMXer972 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Which is totally allowed by the way... but they shouldn't act like it's not their fault when they do. Like, take some responsibility for crying out loud.

[–]RarelyReadReplies 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait what? You can't revoke consent after the fact, meaning once the act is complete. That's called regret. Or did you mean revoking consent midway through the act?

[–]BMXer972 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely meant midway through... cause in this situation the women did give consent and if they didn't like it, I'm sure they were more than free to leave.

[+]Keaner811 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Which is perfectly ok to do.

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip"I cut my teddy bear a butthole and fucked it from 12-15" 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it's not ok, in fact it is impossible.

[–]rg90184 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's not what revoking consent is though. That's asking to stop and ending the engagement.

Revoking consent would be either fucking to completion or stopping midway and leaving THEN claiming that it was rape after the fact, when at the time it was consentual.

That's what people have a problem with. And rightfully so.

[–]Keaner81 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok. Yes I agree. I suppose that my definition is incorrect.

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are made up rules.

Don’t worry about them.

Do what you need to do and follow the actual rules.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But like, men are literally losing their jobs and having their lives ruined because of these made up rules. Not to mention the college kids who get kicked out of school and lose their scholarships. That's the problem...

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

“No famous man can ever know if he has express consent until after the encounter and a blog post is written about it” is what I’m getting from some of the most recent accusations against famous men. Bewildering. Meanwhile, real cases like the one presented in the article about Eliza Dushku go unnoticed.

[–]Chewitt321 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think that's the issue with some parts of feminism today. I think they're called "white feminists" generally? That there's true objective terrible things harming or affecting women, but a huge song and dance is made about something relatively trivial.

There's huge problems in the developing world for women, lack of education, a real rape culture, lack of sexual health support or education, higher risk of violence. Yet the focus is on a misjudged joke or a woman regretting her own decisions here in the West.

E: And the same goes here too, where you have cases like the one you mentioned and other tragedies, but someone got a hug for a few too many seconds from a celebrity is world news.

[–]wrekd1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure there is a higher risk of violence against men in ever class, culture/race, and corner of the globe. If anything, men are under reported because nobody cares enough to notice. Boco Haram anyone?

[–]Chewitt321 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, my university has a woman's night bus to help women get home safe, despite men being 3 times as likely to be victims of violent crime

[–]Navesto 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't think they said yes because of gender, I'm pretty sure they said yes because "Louis C.K.".

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I didn't agree with what happened to C.K. If you become famous enough does that mean you can't do things with "the plebs"? Just because you're high ranked in a company does that mean that you can't date/have sex with a much lower ranking employee? That is not to mention that one of C.K.'s accusers was practically at the same level as he was.

Shia LaBeouf met his current fiancee in the set of her first movie while he was already a pretty big figure in Hollywood, he's also 7 years older. Is it not abuse of power just because when she said "yes" she truly meant "yes"? Would we be throwing shit at LaBeouf now if Mia Goth had turned around and said "I was just shocked" instead of marrying him?

That's where it gets a bit muddy for me: If we're considering class differences in relationships/sexual encounters what's the cut off? At what point am I "too famous" or "too high ranked" or is someone "too new" in the industry for us to not be able to have a relationship/casual sex?

Also, how does that translate to famous people using their fame to get laid? I'm sure many women would fuck Bieber cause he's Bieber, but what if someone claims that they were nervous and he's rich and famous so she didn't say no after?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This shit is why most companies have a zero tolerance work dating policy. Doesn't work when you have a highly connected and decentralised industry like comedy though, so you get claims of "abuse of power" with no recourse.

[+]OcassionalReply3000 -9 points-8 points-7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But you're conflating two completely different things. First of all I'd like to clarify; when his victims attempted to leave he physically blocked the exit, locked the door, and stared while he finished. Secondly C.K. didn't get in trouble because he's famous and she's not. He got in trouble because he's a famous COMEDIAN and she was an amateur COMEDIAN. He could destroy her entire career future with one phone call and they both knew it. Power Dynamics are what's important. It's the same reason you don't mix ranks in the military. You can't really determine consent if the guy asking you for a blow job could send you out to die if you say no. So, again, famous people can fuck the shit out of non famous people, but you can't fuck co-workers below your station. In Hollywood they're all kinda co-workers.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Louis CK is not the person who decides who does and doesn't get to work in hollywood. If you make one enemy by not watching him jerk himself off, its not like they have zero recourse.

Plus if the majority of women in hollywood weren't perfectly ok with sucking dick to progress their careers, it wouldn't be as tough to get by without doing so.

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And pretty much any well connected person, such as a CEO of a big company could do the same to anyone regardless of whether they're in the same industry or not.

If Trump wanted to have sex with an Macy's cashier and she said no, Trump probably knows Macy's CEO and can do the same: Call them up and tell them to fire X person working at X branch, then call up all his other friends and blacklist her. Does this means that highly connected people like that can't fuck anyone but other highly connected people?

That is not to mention that you've also got the age-old stereotype of bosses dating/marrying their secretaries, one instance of which is my own family. Are those relationships not real? Was my mom subtly coerced into having me with my dad due to the power dynamic between them?

Straight up: Am I a rape child? Cause I don't seem to know it, my mother doesn't seem to know it, and my father doesn't seem to know it. It seems you do though.

[–]casemodsaltI masturbate to big men pissing on me..... alot 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's literally what he just explained. You missed his point.

[–]utopista114 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So giving consent because "famous person" is taking out capacity of consent, noted. Will apply next time Trump asks me to watch him.

[–]blackflag209 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't the actual event take place over 10 years ago, before Louis was famous or had power like he does now?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i mean, Louis wasn't their boss right? just a guy of power in the comedic industry. seems like Aziz a bit, chick wanted the good life, celeb boyfriend, rich life, instead she got his dick and some regret. her bruised ego wrote the end of this horrific tale. weren't the Louis CK chicks just women that really looked up to him and thus he "abused his power". unless you can fire someone and make them lose their ablity to make money for the long term, that is not an abuse of power.

[–]BMXer972 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, and personally I feel it's a totally cop out... these women are adults fully capable of making their own decisions. Sure these women do stand up just like Louis... but Louis doesn't control who gets air time and who doesn't. He doesnt have that kind of power. that would be more a keen to Harvey Weinstein. He asked and they consented. If they truly felt uncomfortable they could have walked away.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand why it's weird for a man to want to masturbate in front of a woman. Women ask to do weird sexual shit all the time and nobody gives them shit, masturbating in front of a partner doesn't even scratch the surface... I feel like the mentality is when men want to do stuff like this, they're seen as weird and creepy, and when women want to do it they're just exploring their sexuality. Seems a little hypocritical imo.

[–]Margathon 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, they fucked that one up to make it seem like he actually did something immoral.

[–]condorama 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Surely intentionally. A lot of people who have lost status cause of the metoo craze had consensual interactions. But the media doesn’t wanna own up to that.

[–]smacksaw 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't ask consent from those incapable of giving fully informed consent.

That's the problem. It's why bosses shouldn't date their employees, teachers their students, etc.

Whenever there's a power imbalance, consent is a very limited concept.

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, and also this:

The irony of all this is that, while Ansari’s story went viral, another, more important one got lost in the news cycle. Actress Eliza Dushku, writing on her Facebook page, accused a then-36-year-old stunt coordinator of molesting her at the age of 12.

That story didn't get lost in the news cycle, it's much bigger than Aziz Ansari's. This article is literal trash full of falsehoods.

What we've got here is exactly what a lot of people warned about: The #MeToo movement getting so much steam that people will start using it to accuse people of thing they didn't do. What this article is trying to do is shove the fact that this really just happened under the rug and urging us to carry on to the other stories.

No. What we've got here is exactly what we should talk about: How the moment is starting to rot, just like BLM and countless others. We need to talk about it because it will happen again, and again, and again, and innocents might be thrown under the bus (assuming they haven't already - we don't even know if this is truly the first false allegation, we could be wrong about other peoplr that we've already condemned).

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, this story was all over the news. It's even bigger than Aziz Ansari's (hell, it was #1 on reddit yesterday) so for WaPo to report that it was overshadowed by Aziz's is just false.

If anything, Aziz's story of being victimized by false allegations has been overshadowed by Dushku's story. Everyone I know knows about "The actress that was molested by the stunt director when she was 12 and almost got killed by him" but almost nobody seems to know about "the actor someone accused but didn't do anything wrong."

[–]geoffersonstarship 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean yeah, but the women thought he was being a comedian and joking about doing it, not that he was serious. which makes the entire thing like ehhhh uhhh hmmm to me

[–]Pyromed 59 points60 points61 points 8 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Slightly off topic but wasn't the line about Louis CK a complete lie? From the accounts I heard he always asked.

[–]cttime 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think they mean that women can't give consent because they are weak and fragile and men hold power over them. /S

[–]Pyromed 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh of course. How silly of me.

[+]whiteguycash -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While I agree with you in spirit, its important to accurately represent the accusations and allegations of harm correctly, so as to not be accused of straw-manning. The typical power dynamic is not men over women per se, but a power dynamic of a subordinate-senior relationship, where denial of a request carries a deeper implication of later punitive action. To prove this sort of abuse, the accusers would have to show a circumstance where he was denied, and then the denier was punished in some fashion whether it be withholding of otherwise reasonable compensation or compensatory action, or a sort of punitive negative action. We would need to see a pattern of abuse, as well as have objective accounts from people who had denied vs people who had not.

[+][deleted] -70 points-69 points-68 points 8 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

Still a creep

Edit: the people downvoting me think it's not creepy to ask women if it's okay to jack off in front of them.

[–]sockmess 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

To have a fetish that you ask if people will indulge in its creepy? Obviously it turns him on to jerk off with women watching. Most people with that fetish just whips it out in the subway ten seconds before the stop so they can escape.

[+]ABrownLamp -36 points-35 points-34 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry are you questioning whether asking someone if you you can jerking off in front of them is creepy?

[–]sockmess 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Some people think talking to a girl you don't know for a date is creepy and should only occur on the internet or clubs.

Creepy will be just whipping it out. Asking to jerk off infront of someone you don't have power over is no more creepy than asking someone you have no power over for sex.

[+]ABrownLamp -35 points-34 points-33 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Ha, I dont even know what to say. You're a weird guy.

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I think you're a really sensitive person. How can people indulge in their kinks (whether it be masturbation, BDSM, feet, etc.) without asking?

[–]Geekquinox 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there is one way. I think the #metoo campaign may like it even less though.

[–]ABrownLamp -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah man. Idgaf what you're into. If a male coworker thought he was giving you hints and after work he asked if he could jerk off in front of you, you wouldn't be creeped out? Come on dude. Let's be honest here. You're hanging out after work w that guy again?

[+]L_R_J -10 points-9 points-8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You ask your fucking girlfriend or spouse. Not your coworkers. If you seriously think asking a coworker if you can jerk off in front of them is okay and not creepy then please by all means go do that in your life. Whatever fetish you have ask anyone you can grocery clerks, hairdressers, maybe a family friend. This sub is so excited at a chance to hate women you guys say some dumb shit.

[–]sockmess 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So you just don't have sex with strangers? I'm not as bold to ask to give a facial to stranger, but i did ask for regular sex. Was turned down but you never know the answer until you ask the question.

[–]L_R_J -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's all about context. Sure maybe you're hitting on a girl and it gets to a point where you know you're going to go back to someone's place and you ask if you can do something you want to do. Fine. But asking someone outright if you can jerk off in front of them or something like that is super weird. Also just going up to a stranger and outright asking to have sex is also kind of weird. Maybe it will work. Maybe they'll say you're creepy. Both of those are responses that are well within a person's right to say. It's just super weird so many people are defending asking someone if you cna jerk off in front of them. It's not illegal but to act like it's not creepy is also weird. It's definitely creepy.

[+]L_R_J -8 points-7 points-6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm seriously bewildered you have so many people disagreeing with you. Asking people you don't know or aren't sexually involved with to indulge your kink of jerking off in front of them is fucking creepy. Imagine your sitting on a bus and a homeless man comes up and asks if he can jerk off in front of you. Are you really gonna say "No sir not today, thank you though." or "Get the fuck away from me you fucking creep"

[–]ABrownLamp 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy shit look at that. Nah it's just a reddit circle jerk. No one here would think it wasn't creepy if it happened to them. A coworker you respect asks if he can jerk off in front of you out of nowhere? Okie dokie. Like anyone here would hang out w that person again.

[–]L_R_J -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's seriously crazy. Especially if it was a fat redheaded male boss. I'm sure their opinions would suddenly be quite different.

[–]omnicorn_persei_8 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk why you're being downvoted, asking someone to watch you jerk it is waaaay too creepy. It's better to just whip it out in public so you don't have to go through the embarrassment of having to ask such a creepy question.

[+]KosstAmojan -18 points-17 points-16 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well he asked, they said no and he did it anyway

[–]Pyromed 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh. I'd heard he'd been rejected once to which he replied "I have a problem" and left and another time where he asked the two ladies who just stayed and laughed. Whether or not they declined was never mentioned. One of Louis's quotes was something along the lines of " I didn't think it was wrong as I always asked"

[–]TheHammer987 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true. Sarah Silverman's sister said he asked, she said no, and he asked her to go into the hallway. No one has said that they said out loud 'no' and he continued.

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum 57 points58 points59 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

why is he put on display but that woman get to stay anonymous?

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points51 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because that's what happens to men.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Good point, but he knows who she is. He should name her.

[–]doogbynnoj 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

He's the better person.

[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Definitely seems like a very nice guy, if a bit of a cuck.

[–]Cagg 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How is he a cuck?

[–]HastadinOnly my mommy makes me cum -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

his dad is a rooster

[–]Dante_The_OG_Demon 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You know I was starting to wonder when this whole snowballing bullshit was going to start getting innocent people called out. It may have started with actual instances of sexual harassment but soon enough it was going to devolve into feeble attempts at getting big named celebrities in trouble. Ones that don't deserve it.

[–]doogbynnoj 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She snowballed him too?

[–]falalalachupacabra 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]totomorrowweflew 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

36!!??

[–]kragshot 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And the"other truth" about the whole 'metoo' movement rears its ugly head.

Despite that the supporters of the movement patently ignored Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence ) because their harassers were women) as well as openly shamed Terry Crews (because he was male and his harasser was gay), we are now seeing the underlying pettiness that is at the foundation of the entire thing.

Because in the end, this isn't about justice... this is about revenge. And because of that, none of the real victims of professional arena harassment; past, present, and future, are going to see any real closure or justice.

All of the good that could have come out of this is about to be eclipsed by a backlash that will probably send us back to the 50s. And all because of pettiness like what we are seeing with this case.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, there are some really bad cases.--Weinstien, Lauer, Spacey, Cosby--who deserve this.

Most of the rest is bullshit.

[–]kragshot 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cosby aside, yeah.

This could have been a major change up in how shit was being done. But because of women's pettiness and sexism, it's all about to turn to shit.

Corey Feldman has been screaming about this shit for decades but even now, nobody is taking him seriously. He should be leading the charge, but we can see the truth of all of this now.

[–]holdmyown83 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These hoes ain’t loyal

[–]BurgerUSAIncel cunt knuckle 239 points240 points241 points 8 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

He actually did not do anything wrong. Just because you get drunk and have sex then you realize you woke up to an ugly guy doesn't mean that he raped you. It means that you are a slut.

[–]kellykebab 80 points81 points82 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, this doesn't even really sound like a bad date, just a decent one with a mediocre ending.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a man, when a girl tells me her idea of a bad date is a famous person taking you out for free dinner and drinks, then they go down on you, I can't help but laugh just a bit...

[–]Duzula 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I was absolutely violated and horrified as he was tongue punching my dirt star"

[–]Hereiamhereibe2 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention it wasn’t even the first date.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounded like it went pretty well for Aziz tbh.

[–]utopista114 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

just a decent one with a mediocre ending

How do you know about my life? Do you know me?

[–]kellykebab 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do, yes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn’t mean she is a slut- she just wants to fuck.

[+]KitSwiftpaw -62 points-61 points-60 points 8 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

Legally though a drunk person cannot give consent.

[–]dholeman 40 points41 points42 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What happens if they're both drunk?

Legit question

[–]Spagett26 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all I could think of

[–]KitSwiftpaw 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d assume whoever places the rape charge first can ask for a plea deal, but I’m not a lawyer, I just play one in DnD.

[–]turnpikenorth 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can’t consent when they are drunk and it is up to drunk guys to recognize this fact. No idea how it works for lesbians though.

[–]sockmess 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If one party is sober and the other is seconds away from black out drunk then yes you're right.

[add edit] If someone says something racist while drunk or commit a crime (other than drinking and driving) we belive they was at fault 100%, but if one while drunk had sex with a man, then they lose all ability control the situation and the sober one gets punished.

[–]terminalthree 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So what happens if they're both drunk?

[+]KitSwiftpaw -11 points-10 points-9 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Whoever places the charge first.

Edit: I know nothing.

[–]utopista114 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tag, you're it!

[–]KitSwiftpaw 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your honor, I object to this charge on the grounds of virginity.

[–]ResIpsaBroquitur 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that it’s possible to be too drunk to give consent doesn’t mean that being drunk automatically invalidates consent.

[–]wrekd1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Shut the fuck up and don't ever repeat that.

[–]KitSwiftpaw -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s what I was told, why don’t you correct me then?

[–]BurgerUSAIncel cunt knuckle 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I agree with this. If they cannot drive then they also cannot consent when they are drunk. But I think majority of sex happens after people get drunk. lol

[–]KitSwiftpaw 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THANK YOU!!!

[–]iron_minstrel 45 points46 points47 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Now, I don't think he did anything wrong, but can we all agree that he was using some rookie moves?

[–]seahawkguy1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I dunno. He pointed to his dick and she dropped to her knees and started sucking. That’s pretty strong game.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And you can still get in trouble for that. I wonder why dudes are giving up on chicks, hmmmm....

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's a shame that this chick is acting like a complete cunt, playing every shallow chick game in the book, and we can't help but talk shit about the dudes "moves". Must be nice to just sit back and not have to worry about doing anything on a date, with free reign to judge the other person on everything they do...

[–]inspiredshane 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

His LMR technique is clearly lacking.

[–]_orion 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

unless he heard the lmr, and thought better of it and knew he was about to have a rape accusation on his plate if he went threw with it, and thought better of it, called her an uber and beat off. because thats what i call a smart man.

[–]inspiredshane 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kind of a poor technique if it leads to a girl calling an uber and going to a journalist to craft a hit piece about you. A better technique would be to dramatically frame shift into earnestly not pursuing sex or giving her sexual attention until she re-initiated herself. At that point, you either end the date on a positive platonic note, easing her fears and setting yourself up for success down the line while avoiding a hit piece, or she cracks and pursues sex with you, which makes it her choice and therefore impossible to make a hit piece out of. Aziz was emotionally invested in getting laid, which kept him from being able to adequately pull away from the sexual behavior when she showed how uncomfortable she was.

[–]duddy88 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, seemed to at least get him to third base.

[+]iron_minstrel1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Just the way he kept following her around the apartment made him seem kinda pathetic, imo

[–]InclusivePhitness 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, basically if you get as much pussy as a celebrity does you learn that persistence will pay off.

[–]apparentreality 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you let some random person roam around your apartment unattended on the first date?? Dude's right to make sure his stuff doesn't get swiped.

[–]Method007 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You invite people in your home and let them trot around on their own inside of it? Just rifling through your stuff - no big deal?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

made him seem kinda pathetic

I mean the guy makes snivelling shitty comedy shows with "woke" messages that are about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face. He's basically a pretty pathetic kinda guy, not sure why she thought the sex would be any different.

[–]PM_ME_UR_SMILE_GURL 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean the guy makes snivelling shitty comedy shows with "woke" messages that are about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face.

It's called acting.

[–]omnicorn_persei_8 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's a male feminist, he doesn't know any better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which moves?

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

im not a fan of master of none but this is comedy.

[–]somenamestaken 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He has an episode about being caught up in a sexual harassment scandal. That's why it's so funny.

[–]chambertlo 47 points48 points49 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Metoo is a sham and an excuse for women to get back at the men that have slighted them. It has very little to do with any actual "misconduct". It's feminism showing its true colors.

Pathetic.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this is a woman's idea of being "slighted" sign me the fuck up. I've had some of the nicer girls I've dated do way worse shit than this. This girl's idea of a bad date is a famous person taking her out for drinks then going down on her.... What world do I live in?

[–]Heatedblanket1984 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

to Louis C.K.’s masturbating in front of people without asking

Is this accurate? I thought that he did indeed ask before doing the deed but the problem was the imbalance power between Louis and the women he was perving on.

[–]matrix2002 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate to say it like this, but Ansari is bearing the cross that will help this movement and men, in the long run.

The more bullshit claims that come out against men as a part of the "me too" movement, will make people realize that just because some women says something, doesn't make it true.

Some women just want attention. Some women want to get back at a guy. Some women are just lying sluts.

This is why we have a legal system in place. It's there for a reason.

Now, our legal system has a lot A LOT of problems with it, but that's the problem that people should focus on, not getting a guy fired because the girl regrets oral sex with a guy.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nooo peeeople, you're doing it wrong! You're supposed to blindly believe all allegations made by the woman and destroy the mans life permanently!

Damn it, you're all such a bunch of sexist shitlords!

[–]Moobx 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

If u go to r/changemyview there is a post on there with a top comment that breaks down the babe article into sexual assault or lack of consent. I have seen comments on other subs as well that believe it was assault regardless of the ridiculousness of the entire article.

It seemed like she really wanted him to do something else, he thought he did that. If she had told him directly "let's do a, b, or c" instead of a vague "slow down" they prolly would have both ended up happier. Does it sound like he is sexually inexperienced and sexually frustrated in this story? Yes. Does she sound socially inept and entitled? Yes. Any woman that stuck around to the point of saying "slow down" wanted something to happen, but differently. She kindly doesn't share what that is with him.

At this point in time it is cheaper and safer for men to hire escorts over spending tons on a date and then risk being called rapists.

[–]Iconoficons 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think single men; especially wealthy should just ignore women altogether.

[–]Moobx 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh, people have needs. I think escorts are a good option because any false rape accusation made by them would likely make them lose business/hurt their reputation. I think society would benefit from mothers teaching daughters to be direct with their wants, but that would take away the plausible deniability women benefit from currently.

[–]YongeArcade 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the # MeToo Train is so easily to derail then maybe you should not ride it.

[–]Banequo 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck em.

[–]bryanrobh 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like his show. Hope they don’t jump to conclusions like they did with House of cards

[–]moose0511 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And when the dust settles her reputation won't have a scratch on it because she has the shield of anonymity. "Grace" won't lose her job or future employment opportunity, won't be shunned by friends and family, won't need to relocate, etc.

This is still PP

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

POUNDMETOO

[–]mitzibishi1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I would love to see the text messages that led up to this date. We all know women can't accept their mistakes. We are all looking as if her word is gospel and he made the wrong play. I'm guessing she made a disastrous play and she's not admitting the full story. He wasn't interested at all at first and she managed to obtain his number. In short she was not attractive. To get him to commit to a date she must have put sex on the table. Got his embers burning. That's what got him to change his mind. She imagined a dream date of expensive food and drinks at the top bars with a famous guy signing autoraghs while she was on his arm taking selfies. She dreamed a famous guy would wife her. She told all her friends leading up. She thought she had it in the bag. She dreamed of a date going from A to Z with sex being Z. He spent a dinner with her. Realised she was unbearable and went from A directly to Z as she'd promised. She gave Z and he never wifed her. Thus we have this revenge tale. He should hit her up with a lawyer for defamtion and reveal any text messages between them.

[–]Robx9001 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He probably ghosted her.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, no. He texted her the following day saying it was nice hanging out with her and then brought up some stuff about cameras which was their common interest to begin with.

[–]DrJ209 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You’d think something like this would turn ol’ Aziz against the shit-eating fauxmenists, but he just crawls back and apologizes for nothing. Loser.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's see where he goes in the future. He's has to be careful right now.

[–]djs758 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, what really bothers me about the babe.com story is that it makes it 1000 times harder for actual victims to get justice. People see shit like this and they think girls just claim assault when they just regret their own actions, which they were free to stop at any time.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well....it is also wrong when men are falsely accused.

[–]LowRentMegazord 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No no no. The only bad thing about false accusations is that they might make people actually investigate future accusations.

[–]Jesse0016 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing that pissed me off the most is the washingtonpost saying Louis ck masturbated without askingZ he asked every woman and they each gave him consent.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know hash tag use to be called the pound..so every time one of these idiots uses #metoo it literally means "pound me too".

LOL

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The #MeToo movement make many more MGTOWs this year. Good job.

Then they'll start complaining about men not hitting on them anymore and how nobody wants a "strong, independent woman".

On that note, we mustn't forget the women actually calling out this bullshit. The top comments on twitter responding to this actually voice very similar opinions to the guys here: this is discrediting the whole movement and doing more harm than good.

Edit: example

[–]twinkiac 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

@AbigailHope's latest tweet

@AbigailHope on Twitter

I am a bot | feedback

[–]rooolng 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they are still blaming Aziz for being a bad date. I would guess she was an awful date and Aziz just put up with her.

[–]Grayson7 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL "Babe" is a website.

[–]GregoryGoose 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fuck you?”. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fuck him at all."

Oh yeah that question is literally rape. I remember in grade school the older boys would taunt me with the question, "Do your parents know you're gay?". It felt so helpless, how a question had no binary response to it. So helpless not knowing the correct combination of words that would return me to heterosexuality. I felt like I'd have to live a lie if I answered incorrectly. /s

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck sakes Aziz just out her so the next stupid-ass woman who pulls this shit knows that there may actually be consequences for her actions.

[–]HiddenShorts 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I watched that video at the top of the article. At this point I'm afraid to have sex with my wife.

[–]FuckBLMtheMovement 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Derailed" as if "metoo" was going anywhere.

[–]frosty147 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who would want to derail destroying people's lives over twitter?

[–]Dylan_Tnga 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When having a one night stand with a woman

HAVE

A

FUCKING

ALIBI.

It's just too high risk to be a man and have a one night stand. If she regrets it or gets slut shamed, you are now a rapist.

I avoid them altogether these days. If I'm going to hook up with a woman I want at least 2-3 dates first to decide whether I am potentially sticking my dick in crazy or not.

[–]slver6 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

guys stop making fun of this topic, when she will be charged with a crime or something?

[–]Radical-Moderate 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was so obvious. Anyone who bought that story needs to seriously reevaluate themselves.

[+]ForensicFiler -23 points-22 points-21 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea what this title is saying but I'm also too lazy to read the article

[–]faded_jester 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They're saying that lumping in Aziz with all those sexual predators is extremely disingenuous and that in their eagerness to destroy him and vilify men in general, they are giving credence/ammunition to everyone who believes almost all accusations are probably false and should be treated so.

In other words, they're telling all those women to read "The boy who cried wolf." and figure out the moral of the story.

[–]ForensicFiler 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the quality content I come here for!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How many weeks and months away are we from women whinging that men need to be assertive because they're sad fewer decent men want to risk fucking them in case the end up in a metoo tweet.

[–]Kizik 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... That you should never tell the same lie twice?

[–]johnchapel 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Aziz had a bad date wherein the girl consented to everything and they hooked up and when she finally said "no", he politely stopped, put on clothes and hung out with her.

essentially, he had the audacity to not read her mind from the past, but rather accept the circumstances before him which was "Theres a naked girl in my kitchen. She probably wants to smash"

The whole story is a fuckin joke.

[–]kellykebab 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said. This barely even qualifies as a bad date. Bitch clearly has a coven of completely insane friends.

[–]BlackHaz3 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tldr; Any Hollywood beta “male feminist” is always a secret sexual assaulter

[+]the_ocalhoun -30 points-29 points-28 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Why would you want to derail #MeToo?

[–]digitalpizza1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

because a bad date isn't sexual assault

[+]the_ocalhoun -24 points-23 points-22 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Well, it could be, depending on what made the date 'bad'.

[–]BumWarrior691 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Shut up

[–]sussinmysussness 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I second this.

[–]the_ocalhoun -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please shut up

lol, opposition to #MeToo in a nutshell.

[–]BumWarrior69 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The movement is about encouraging people who have suffered sexual (and other forms of) assault to speak out. It is not meant to complain about dates that weren't great.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, the worst part of every date is having to listen to a woman talk for several hours.

[–]the_ocalhoun -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you don't want to talk to someone, you shouldn't be dating them. Go hire a hooker.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No reason I can't do both.

[–]Scopenhagen_Longcut 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it's #Dumb

[–]Keaner81 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I think derail is a bad term.

I don't think anyone, besides rapists or sexists or other such things, wants #metoo to go away or for women to feel unempowered.

But #metoo needs to have some more legitimacy to it in my opinion. It's really a shame but it's turning into a boy who cried wolf situation.

People like Aziz Ansari, who did nothing wrong, are at risk to lose their careers. Louis C.K. while his acts were a bit more extreme, he asked for permission, and now his career is in a rough spot too.

[–]sockmess 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I want #metoo to go away. You have a crime, that happened somewhat recently go to the police. Then if the police is doing nothing, do a #metoo. If Twitter is your first and only action then it should be erased.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Total bullshit. Like the other guy said, if there is a crime committed you go to the police. Social media justice isn't a good replacement for a criminal investigation for any crime as serious as sexual assault or rape. You wouldn't post about being robbed instead of talking to the police about it.

This is absolute nonsense. Metoo is a combination of virtue signaling and also gaining victim status with barely any effort. It's so vague too, you could have been cat called and post a metoo status on FB. It's completely retarded and it definitely should not exist.

[–]the_ocalhoun 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah, good. So there are still reasonable people here.

[–]Keaner81 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Accountability is something we can all appreciate.

[–]Aivias -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I want it to go away. I dont care who touched/kissed/raped you, its not my concern if you are a stranger.

[–]OcassionalReply3000 -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really hate this whole "asked for permission" thing. Do you know why officers don't bang enlisted? If you tell the officer no he sends you out to die. The issue with C.K. is he was effectively trying to bang a lower ranked co-worker. Sure, she said yes, she was terrified that he would destroy her career if she said no. So that's a really big grey area. How could we avoid it? DON'T TRY TO BANG LOWER RANKED CO-WORKERS. If you read C.K's apology he makes it clear that what he did was wrong for this exact reason. Lastly, come on, when someone tries to walk away from you do you let them leave or block the door and then lock it? C.K. chose the latter.

[–]patricarchy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a politically motivated witch hunt.

[+]Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This sub in general is great and all, but this right here..

Who.thehell.cares

[–]LowRentMegazord 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Single men.

[–]Deeze_Rmuh_Nudds 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No they don't, dude. No they don't.

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