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IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PATRIARCHY...right?

aKingofSpades

August 23, 2017
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Title IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PATRIARCHY...right?
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aKingofSpades

Upvotes 339
Comments 98
Date August 23, 2017 1:16 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6vflvw/its_because_of_the_patriarchyright/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/its-because-of-the-patriarchyright.915432
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[–]Jex117 225 points226 points227 points 8 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

Unfunny comedian demands to be paid the same as funny comedians.

[–]BlindGardener 45 points46 points47 points 8 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

All the funny comedians seem to wind up dead. Like Robin Williams. >.<

[–]Jex117 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Carlin, Hicks, Pryor....

Absolutely legendary comedians.

[+]Il1281 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link

Belushi, Farley, Knotts, Candy, Mac, Dangerfield, Kinison, Radner, Bruce, Winters, Kaufman, Lewis, There are more I just can't recall their names... Oh and Martin. (He'd get it.)

Schumer is a fucking hack.

[–]Luchadorgreen 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget Patrice O'Neal.

[–]timdesuyo 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Or Bert Kreisher for that matter. He died of diabetes, just like O'Neal.

[–]BruteOne 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Is this part of a joke I don't get? Bert Kreisher is not dead right? I like Burnt Chrysler but I do not follow his work closely.

[–]Jex117 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Okay this fucked me right up.

I was like "WTF BERT DIED?! I JUST SAW HIM ON HOT ONES LIKE A MONTH AGO"

Fucking false alarms

[–]timdesuyo 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's because he's fat.

[–]Jex117 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lol he sure is fat

Its funny because hes got a jocks head but a fat body

[–]timdesuyo 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought he died of diabetes? You know, because he's fat.

[–]the_crx 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He's not dead.

[–]timdesuyo 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course he died of diabetes. Because he's fat.

[–]armaadi 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mitch Hedberg as well. I hope I go wherever they go when I die.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And Hedberg

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

red foxx

[–]machingunwhhore 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

John Pinette :(

[–]thelogicbox 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Charlie Murphy

[–]rawbface 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah but it's not like Carlin was taken before his time. The dude played up the angry old man card quite a bit before he died.

[–]Jex117 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pryor aged out as well. His last few years were rough - he could barely get up on stage, but he dragged himself out there until the end nonetheless.

100% dedication to the craft, all the way to his grave. Trying to make people laugh even when he was withered and old

[–]Revorob 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, we all wind up dead in the long run.

[–]Sarin_G_Series 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Speak for yourself, peasant.

[–]Revorob 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What? Like you're an immortal?

[–]Sarin_G_Series 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't know, haven't died yet. I'll be damned if I'm gonna leave that distinction up to an anonymous Redditor though.

[–]Revorob 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, as much as I hope the immortal thing works out for you (truly), I just can't see it happening. Statistically, throughout history something like 0% of the human population have turned out to be immortal. Having said that, there is always the chance you might be the first immortal ever but when you weigh that against the total number of humans who have ever lived (and subsequently died), the odd are not that good.

On the other hand, positive thinking can't hurt :)

Edit: typo

[–]Sarin_G_Series 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Elijah never died. (2 Kings 2)

[–]Revorob 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish Elijah Wood would hurry up and die. He fucking annoys me!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RIP for real.. depression is a bitch

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can thank their wives/gf for that.

[–]MaturegambinoAFCB 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Same as all the women sports people that claim they should be paid the same in football(soccer) for example.

Bad footballer demands to be paid same as good footballers

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They should get paid based on attendance and viewership.

[–]SaiHottari 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If they were, they would make less than they do now. As it is, many sports leagues garnish male wages to help pay for the female wages and league. Women don't attract enough viewers to even operate.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the fundamentals?

[–]kartu3 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Frankly, it depends on what kind of payment she asks for.
If it is per view, then it is somewhat fair (if you aren't funny you get smaller number of views)

[+]DrewFlan1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Also, Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock have been in the industry doing comedy for over 50 years combined and they still have huge audiences. Amy has been on the scene for like 6 years at most.

[–]Pseudonymble 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Chris Rock: Multiple box-office successes Dave Chapelle: Left too early, could print money if he returned to the biz Amy Schumer: Box-office flop with a Netflix Special (like every other comic)...

[–]DrewFlan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Uhh she is not a box-office flop. Like her or not her Trainwreck brought in $140 million on a $35 million budget.

[–]Pseudonymble 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well the marketing has been phenominal, because I had the impression it was a huge failure. Either way, she does not command the same audience

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 91 points92 points93 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The great thing about Netflix, is they know exactly how much they make off each program. ie: How many people watched it? So if they make a 1 hour show with Chris Rock and another with Amy Schumer, then if they both have the same number of viewers, then fine, pay them both the same.

[+]random48081 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

They also have a pretty good idea on who subscribed to their service just to watch whatever OC they put on there.

If you are a brand new subscriber and the first thing you watch is Dave Chappelle, they certainly know what kind of content needs to be created to keep you as a customer.

[–]machingunwhhore 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you create a Netflix account and the first thing you watch is Amy Schumer, then shame on you

[–]unbelievablepeople 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, there's more to it than just how many people watch. Like, I have some Netflix shows I regularly turn on as basically background noise while I'm doing other stuff around the house. I watch those shows a lot, but my decision to subscribe to Netflix isn't based on those shows.

[–]MotherFuckin-Oedipus 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The rating should be a factor, too, especially for Netflix specials / originals.

[–]T-Breezy16 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except they changed the ratings as a direct result of her special...

[–]Deepera 60 points61 points62 points 8 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Equal pay for Equal work is awesome, and elimination of wage disparities based on sex discrimination is a good thing.

But

According to the racial pay gap, the earnings rankings are in this order

  • 1. White Women ( 17 h/r Average Hourly Earnings :Pew Research 2015)
  • 2. Black Men ( 15 h/r Average Hourly Earnings :Pew Research 2015)

So Amy Schumer (white woman) just used an oppressed minority (black men ) who earn less on average to allegedly raise her wages.

I doubt this story will make big news, as it kind of paints a funky picture when further analyzed.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice. I like you.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

no one wants to address this issue as black males make the least. black women make 1/3 more then black males.

black males are thee most oppressed group in the US

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Making less money does not mean they're oppressed. The point of this sub is to show that disparities aren't always the result of some invisible prejudice

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

is that right??? so only a certain group (poc not included) can be oppressed? i thought this was a Men's rights group. black males i see are not considered part of this. this is not the first time this has been pointed out. black men have always been paid the least amount of money yet we are not here to discuss that i guess. only non poc issues right?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, you're equating disparity in wages to discrimination without any evidence. And this sub fights for the rights of all men, including black men. Who do think were the biggest victims of "listen and believe" back in the day?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Black men are not any more oppressed than any other male in the US.

No need to make Mensrights into a race issue.

If you think people are systematically oppressed in the US over their skin colour, you are the one help promote and continue racism in the US.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Black men are not any more oppressed than any other male in the US.

for fucks skae stop you fucking bullshit. turning a blind eye to this issue is not making it go away. and you thinking that the black male is not gunned down turned away from jobs and make up huge numbers in the prison system then you're a fucking moron.

No need to make Mensrights into a race issue.

race is an issue when it comes to men's rights so stop passing this issu over as if it does not exist.

If you think people are systematically oppressed in the US over their skin colour, you are the one help promote and continue racism in the US.

just go back to your white supremacist safe space there snowflake.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

for fucks skae stop you fucking bullshit. turning a blind eye to this issue is not making it go away.

Stop making race an issue and it will go away.

and you thinking that the black male is not gunned down

It is predominately Black Men killing Black Men. Stop making this about RACE

turned away from jobs

There might be a little bit of Racism, but then that is the same for everyone. Everyone has faced some sort of racism levied at them due to their skin colour. No one is special in this regard.

and make up huge numbers in the prison system then you're a fucking moron.

And who is committing crime? Look at prior convictions(And not for drug possession), that explains a lot why some people get longer sentences. Men get sentences 60% longer than women. No need to make it about Race

Your argument falls apart about white supremacy you look outside of the US.

race is an issue when it comes to men's rights so stop passing this issu over as if it does not exist.

No it is not. Men are Men no matter the colour of our skin. We all face the same issues. One being black or white does not make it any easier or harder.

Nothing about one being Black makes it harder to be a man. Ones one life choices certainly do though.

just go back to your white supremacist safe space there snowflake.

So anyone who calls you out for your racist bullshit is a white supremacist now, eh?

FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

black males are thee most oppressed group in the US

Prove it.

[–]MemesterReamster 66 points67 points68 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I hoped they turned her down and put her in her place. It'd make more sense if she was actually funny.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They might fire someone and give her a nice cash package and apology.

It's a great opportunity for pandering and a huge publicity stunt, makes sense from a business perspective because the media is infested with feminism and the rest of Schumer's rhetoric.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Netflix is just a feminist LGBT propaganda machine

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Back to t_d with you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

back to two XX with you or your snowflake safe space

[–]Muffinmanifest 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They caved immediately.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

all her movies flopped but she thinks her pu$$y is diamond encrusted but i keep telling her that is a yeast infection.

[–]unbelievablepeople 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

all her movies flopped

This just isn't true. Amy Schumer has been the star of two movies: Trainwreck, which was a big hit with $140 million box office on a $35 million budget, and Snatched, which was not a big hit but also not a flop with $60 million box office on a $42 million budget. You don't like her? Fine. But don't peddle false information here. If we're going to succeed as a movement, men's rights needs to be intellectually honest.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she has done more then 2 movies. she has stand up (flop) she had a show (flop)

[–]spf1971 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snatched

$60 million box office on a $42 million production budget means it lost about $40 million as it takes about 2.5X production budget to break even.

[+]Tyrael1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, but they have talent.

Wonder how she overcame that.

[–]boringcarpets 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle? Maybe she should keep that cake hole shut before someone brings up white privilege. But in all seriousness, she thinks she's Chris Rock/Dave Chappelle level?? Jesus wept

[–]TibsKirk 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can anyone imagine a version of Chris or Dave that is as unfunny and gross as Schumer? She can't even compete with Andrew Dice Clay in terms of comedy.

[–]Thepowersupreme 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If Netflix caves, she should use the extra money to compensate the comedians who she stole jokes from.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle are funny....

[–]Floppuh 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a comedian.

She fails at her job.

argument_over

[–]superhobo666 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only funny thing about her is how bad she is.

[–]GreasedLightning 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope she's not asking for the same, because even Amy Schumer with a penis wouldn't be making the same as them. Those two each have a great resumes and loads of work behind them. They deserve the money.

[–]TheRavenousRabbit 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This fat cow made one of the most horrible comedy shows in existence and DARES to ask for a raise? I could've done a better fucking stand up show.

[–]Revorob 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If meritocracy has anything to do with it, Schumer deserves to be paid less than either Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle.

[–]theothermod[M] 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The title of your post does not say anything about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

In future, such posts may be removed.

Also, please avoid ALLCAPS in titles if you can. :)

[–]Fortspucking 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, she's entitled to ask; but if she tears her shirt and plays victim, she's entitled to scorn as well.

[–]SchrodingersRapist 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is this here? She's allowed to ask for anything, and nothing about this picture says she's using some feminist bullshit, the victim card, or anything to try and justify(force) it. I even went and read the two paragraph story here and it doesn't say she did anything but renegotiate.

So just outrage for outrage sake?

She's terrible and not funny, but if they're willing to pay her insane amounts for her shit isn't that between netflix and her?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right? This isn't a men's rights issue. This is just whining bullshit.

[–]SchrodingersRapist 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean the top comment here is about how unfunny she is. Totally irrelevant.... so yeah

[–]ExpendableOne 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But... there is a huge demand for Dave Chapelle and Chris Rock. Is there really any demand for any material Amy Schumer plagiarizes?

[–]Godkun007 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't her special do terribly? I remember it was universally panned.

[–]AntiAbleism 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't find many women funny.

[–]rawbface 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I get a new job, I do research. I see what other people who do this same job get paid. I try to get multiple competing offers. I use my experience and previous salaries as leverage. And the culmination of this research is to bargain with my new employer about my salary.

Is it possible that's what's happening here?

[–]evilkenevil 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Male or female aside...Amy Schumer is not Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle. Hell, Chris Rock isn't Dave Chappelle no offense to Chris.

Ethically speaking...Amy shouldn't be allowed a pay raise not because she's a woman but because half her act is a poorly copied version of Dave's.

[–]GreyTortoise 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those two are veterans of the stage who have endlessly good material, and lately, are even showing up with great social commentary.

She's mediocre lately, inexperienced, and might well be running out of material.

She should move over to films and branch out some for different roles, I think. Otherwise her career looks stagnant at the moment.

[–]theguidedman 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough. She tells(copies) the same jokes anyway

[–]CatManDontDo 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Ugh I get the most conflicted boners with Schumer. She is like 100% the body type I'm into but then shes also terrible and unfunny.

Someone help me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Breaking news: Angry balloon filled with jam demands more stuff despite failing to do its job to any reasonable degree of satisfaction. Also, jam-balloon apologists claim the overly inflated party favour has in fact been doing its job for years, as it had made them go "Heh" every twenty minutes.

[–]Proteus_Marius 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dick Gregory must be spinning in his grave about now.

[–]deadfallpro 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She apparently doesn't realize the post production work it takes, to make her look presentable and to even seem slightly amusing. Which is all digital post, as she is neither presentable or funny.

[–]therealsnakecharmer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah because their popularity and experience as nothing to do with higher pay. Must be the patriarchy.
To me it isn't even a matter of if they are funny or not. Never watched her but from what I got she seems to solely rely on puerile humor, which get boring quickly.

[–]ElefantPharts 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't mind Amy, some of her stuff is funny. But her "leather special" was pure cringe. The outfit was god awful and it was like she watched the episode of South Park where they talk about female comedians being funny and said "yes, let's do everything they said" as though she didn't get it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not with a one-star rating on your special your not

[–]Tgunner192 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a similar story, Beaker of Muppet Labs has requested research grant on par with a grant made to Neil DeGrasse Tyson

[–]SchmidtytheKid 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can she cover herself up?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually used to like Any Schumer. I thought some of her early specials were pretty good. And I liked her movie Trainwreck, even though it fell into some standard cliche romantic comedy stuff.

But she has been over exposed, and she hasn't adapted to the level of fame her movie generated for her. Her latest Netflix special was incredibly bad.

To give an example - in one of her earlier specials, she talks about her body type and states "if we were making a cheerleader pyramid, I would be a base" which is a funny analogy. "My vagina smells like a goat" is not a clever analogy.

She has become a caricature of a hacky female comic. It sucks that people point to her as a standard bearer for women comics generally.

[–]krawm -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is an unfunny hack but this is not a mens right issue and has no place on this subreddit.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck I wish that fat cunt was dead.

She does nothing but complain that no one finds her funny.

She looks like miss piggy beaten by an ugly stick, and has the personality of a wet carrot.

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