Is it true that promiscuous males are good because they have to be desirable to get sex?

rhymeswithgarlic · 2022-10-28T03:38:43+00:00

Good? Good for what? For whom?

For every 1000 TRP schmucks who claim to be smashingly successful PUAs or that their dicks are never dry, I guarantee you that 999 of them get most of their action from Rosy Palm and her 5 assistants. They're slimy butt-hurt narcissistic man-children who aren't appealing to any woman who walks upright.

The 1000th one is an extraordinarily attractive man who can garner some female attention and sometimes turn it into sexual conquest.

Big-Bonkin-Head · 2022-10-28T03:38:17+00:00

Ever heard the term “community dick”? Yeah women do not always talk big or positive about those kind of men. A lot of those men tend to have loose values on sex and their bodies, which shows women how they view themselves and women if they just give themselves up like that. But a lot of those men have pretty desirable traits, like charm, confidence and good communication skills. Does not translate to character or even being a good partner, they just know how to get in the door fully with their “game”.

I heard in one post I made here from someone that said women like men who have desirable traits, not exactly the body count. The traits they have make a high body count possible but really the desirable traits. They see that many women chase them. And sometimes, women find it attractive if a man is good looking but has values and does not want to bang the whole town.

mikayrodr · 2022-10-27T23:51:28+00:00

No. I don’t know where they got this idea that all women want a guy with experience. It doesn’t matter either way. For me, I’d prefer someone who hasn’t slept with a bunch of people. Others might not care at all. But I have never met a woman who has said “he’s had A LOT of sex I want him!!!” It’s ridiculous that people parrot that idea around. Also, people have sex because they like it. Desirability isn’t as much in play as they say. People just like sex. Plus, desirability changes as your priorities in life change. I guess if your only cares in life are making money and having sex with teenage girls then maybe this is true, but that’s not the actual average person. The things people desire or find sexy aren’t universal, either.

The advice of red pill does not lead to healthy sexual lifestyles and especially not healthy, lasting relationships.

xvszero · 2022-10-28T01:11:35+00:00

Good at what?

Environmental-Row979 · 2022-10-28T00:16:45+00:00

Nope.

liisathorir · 2022-10-28T06:32:58+00:00

They are a good risk factor for getting an STD.

I think the math would check out for this as well.

rumpots420 · 2022-10-28T01:02:19+00:00

I also used to think this, but it's pretty clear now that it's a belief more common in insecure men than it is in women

Shot-Cellist9635 · 2022-10-28T00:17:24+00:00

For the life of me I'll never understand why red pillars believe women are attracted to promiscuous men. But they also believe women enjoy emotional abuse, so nothing coming from them should suprise me anymore

TheRainMonster · 2022-10-28T13:13:14+00:00

Like other posters, I'm not sure what "good" is in this context, but assuming that it's "good in bed", then my answer is no. Vulvas and vaginas are all different in terms of what exactly feels good and will build to orgasm. There are also a lot of mental and emotional "brakes" on a woman's arousal. Said another way, what would physically feel good and lead to orgasm won't register as good if the woman is stressed, anxious, etc. Porn doesn't do a lot to show what will make a woman feel good, how it's a process of fine-tuning that's different from partner to partner.

That's true for men, too, right? If I give a guy the exact same handjob, same rhythm, same stroke length, same pressure, without paying any attention to whether it's too fast and dry for him at that point, then I'm not being a good partner and exploring what will make him actually feel good.

Additionally, it doesn't take too much for penetrative sex to feel actively bad and painful in an unaroused vagina. Things may have been going well, penetration happened too soon, the vagina didn't swell enough, and now a penis is banging cervix and giving the vaginal walls a rug burn. I have a hard time watching most straight porn because the woman will be actively grimacing in pain but it's ignored.

These are all things that women are socialized to accept. I'm not saying all sex is bad and inherently painful, but when I think of the sex in my twenties that's a lot of my experiences. The sex with partners who I'd consider good in bed are the ones who took time to ask if something felt good, does it feel good faster or slower, asked me to show them what I liked, actually listened to me (instead of saying something like "You like that?" and proceeding with whatever they were doing) and just gave time and attention to what's seen as that boring foreplay shit. Whether a partner was willing to do all that didn't correlate with his attractiveness or amount of previous experience.

katchoo1 · 2022-10-28T16:26:13+00:00

Also I’m an old Gen xer, raised Catholic, and recognizing that sex can truly be just fun, a momentary connection or a momentary increased connection between otherwise friends that doesn’t have to have horrible mental emotional and spiritual fallout as I was indoctrinated to think, actually was empowering. I had a really good time and I was also careful and safe. My worst experiences actually happened when I still had one foot in Catholic purity culture.

Consider the possibility that people participate in “hookup culture” for different reasons and some are not the best reasons and some are actually truly healing and empowering and some are just that was a time of my life and I’m moving on now.

Also consider that the millennials are the second largest generational cohort moving thru their life phases and that tends to have a tremendous reflection in the popular culture and what is considered important. The millennials had a prolonged early adulthood for a variety of reasons esp a destroyed economy and do I think their age of sexual experimentation lasted past college and early 20: into thirties for many. Because many stayed in school longer (economy), didn’t have career jobs and marriage/house/kids in early 30s so that’s been reflected back in the culture and media for longer than it would have otherwise. Now more millennials are “settling down” and coincidentally ? Hookup culture is “over”.

In summary, do what feels right for YOU, choose partners who are right for you and stop imposing your individual perceptions on the entire world or culture. Hooking up works out just fine for a lot of people and it’s harmful for others. Educate yourself and choose accordingly.

Available-Ad-9338 · 2022-10-29T07:30:43+00:00

Good at relationships? No.

_greyfeathers · 2022-10-30T14:10:07+00:00

IMO promiscuity or an excessive body count doesn't equal desirability - It simply tells a story of what kind of lifestyle someone lives, what kind of people they choose to spend their time around, how they view women/men & relationships.

BaadKitteh · 2022-10-28T04:23:58+00:00

There is nothing inherently good or bad about promiscuity itself. The details are what matters; both the physical safety details and how you treat your partners. If you take precautions to prevent spread of disease and unwanted pregnancy while also behaving in an ethical way in regards to the sex you're having, by all means- fuck around all you want. It won't affect whether you are "good". If you treat your partners badly as well as putting their and your health in danger, you're a shitty person regardless of how much sex you have.

This question is either coming from a child or someone messing around imo.

saito200 · 2022-10-28T07:41:21+00:00

Depends.

Promiscuous: gets lots of sex as a result of being daily surrounded by woman (because of his job or sociable habits, in other words, something he does anyway) that make advances on him. That means he's probably a very handsome and sociable man. Is it good? Maybe, for him, if at all. Yeah, he probably "has some fun".

Promiscuous: gets lots of sex because he basically acts as a "PUA" full time, he goes out every night and approaches 100s of women and eventually he manages to have sex with one. Does this guy have nothing better to do with his life? Does he have fun? I don't know. It sounds like a total chore and getting an STD with extra steps. Also, meeting humans casually to later disconnect from them leaves absolutely nothing. Long term connections are what is worth it. I don't think it's good at all

ColdMoon89 · 2022-10-28T19:27:29+00:00

Not really. Many are promiscuous due to the numbers game. Its like in that King of the Hill episode where everyone thought Boomhauer was "a lady's man". It turns out, he was 'successful' because he approached sooooo many women lol.

Obviously, you've gotta some positive attributes. But, if you approach hundreds of women of course you're gonna get lucky sometimes.

impressablenomad38 · 2022-10-28T14:16:34+00:00

It's weird how we as a human race place such high value on these things. Regardless of gender

fathergoose77 · 2022-10-28T17:05:47+00:00

Good for what and for who? Being promiscuous can mean different things to different people. A virgin might consider someone who has had two casual sex partners as promiscuous while someone else might think having a different ONS every weekend is promiscuous.

There’s a lot of people demonizing casual sex here in the comments and not understanding that you can have casual sex responsibly while being mindful of your sexual partner and their feelings. Let’s not forget the nuance, people! That’s what RP does and it’s more damaging than anything. We don’t all want to live by traditional, conservative values but that doesn’t make us “good” nor “bad” people.

Someone can be promiscuous at one point when they are not seeking a serious relationship and then later decide that they are ready to have a long term relationship.

Your number of sex partners doesn’t say too much about you aside from the fact that you do not have a problem morally with sex before marriage/outside a relationship.

Unusual_Singer8798 · 2022-10-31T09:08:01+00:00

Just Because a man is having a lot of casual Sex doesnt mean je is "desirable" as a person for a relationship or good at sex. He maybe got good looks, sure, and can get drunk women to sleeo with him. Yes maybe he even got game and pretend to be funny and interested.

But how many of these women they sleep with are having orgasms?!?!? Men in relationships are WAY more likely to please the women. Why? Bc women communicate. The Red pill dudes dont like to listen to women about their needs, they just want Quick s.ex and maybe BELIEVE they are good in sex. Some of them maybe are, but surely most arent.

Who is more likely to get an orgasm? A woman who is in a relationship or at least with someone she likes....or the woman that is b.anged by some pick uo artusts that had 200 women before?

Do these pick up guys go down on women?! Some maybe do. But many dont.

dharden1 · 2022-10-28T17:18:19+00:00

u/fathergoose77 again with the extremes lol i understand them perfectly well. no one said anything about a bunch of one night stands. the bottom line is on a balance of probabilities the person who has more practice and sexual experience is going to be better at sex than one without it. whether it be longterm relationships, friends with benefits or one night stands. and no just because a guy knows how to please a specific girl hes been with in a long term relationship doesnt means hes going to know how to please an array of different women. what works for one might not necessarily work for another. a guy who has had practice dealing with a multitude of women sexually has a higher probability of being able to please them sexually. its not rocket science

Naus1987 · 2022-10-28T10:37:10+00:00

Sorta true. Flip it.

Desirable men are able to have more sex, so some of them do.

Think of it this way, a guy who is very attractive and has lots of money with good charisma is able to sleep with a lot of partners.

It doesn’t exactly mean he’s a good catch. It just means that if a man is able to do, she probably has a lot of desirability to have achieved such.

I wouldn’t see that man as marriageable material.

dharden1 · 2022-10-31T13:09:46+00:00

u/Unusual_Singer8798 you cant say start a statements off with “i think” and then follow it up with “its factual” and “IMO” LOL theres nothing about what you said that’s factual. everything about what you said is based in your emotions. no woman says “i find a man with a high body count sexy” that obvious. the thing that attracts them is all the things it takes for that man to be able to have sex with a multitude of different women. charm, confidence, humor, physical attractiveness, social status, ambition, probably good hygiene, etc. these things are universally attractive to the majority of women therefore allowing him have alot of options and when men have options 90% of the time they are going to exercise those options.

FrancoDownUnder · 2022-10-28T11:07:02+00:00

What’s the 95/5 tinder rule ie high value men have lots of interest from women, therefore a top tier man has the pick of the bunch like every woman wants him including married and already taken women 95 % of women wants or fantasies to be smashed by the top 5% man

AssistTemporary8422 · 2022-10-28T05:06:58+00:00

Morally good or good at attracting the opposite sex?

ArminiusLad · 2022-10-28T17:17:07+00:00

Men really just need to get better at sex...

Is incredible the amount of women who shame non experienced men for not having experience on it.

FlyV89 · 2022-10-28T16:19:17+00:00

Of course it is.

Attractive men attract more women, and what do men what women for? Sex.

Most promiscuous men tend to be attractive, the same way most virgin men tend to be ugly.

In the same vein, most good looking women tend to land avery attractive and wealthy men, because women value commitment andn wealth a lot more than casual sex.

Why all the people in this post is trying to argue logical reassoning? The question is very simple.

"Are promiscuous men more attractive on average, yes or no?"

Instead, people go like

"Well I don't like men to have hign N-count"

Nobody is asking if having a high N-count is intrinsically attractive here. OP is asking if, in order to have a high N-count, It would help for you to be good looking and have attractive traits. Yes, it does, and in fact both things are highly correlated with N-count in men. Women sleep with attractive men. The more attractive the man is, the more women will be intrested in sleeping with him.

"WEEEEELL women call it community dick"

No one cares what women call those men. It doesn't matter for those men for sure. OP is asking "are women touching and rubbing their bodies against these "community dicks", yes or no?". Of course they are, and they are aware other women are doing the same. That's why they call it "community dicks".

"Redpillers are lame ass who can't get laid!"

Yeah, may be, may be not. OP is asking about the conection between good looking men and high N-count thou, not about what amount of men in the Redpill subreddit can actually get laid.

Why dancing so much around the issue?

Why can you all speak the truth? Is that so dificult?

Talking here as a 6.3', athletic, quite muscular and good looking man who, just by mere coincidence, happens to have a high N-count too.

hotmama-45 · 2022-12-05T01:54:26+00:00

Hell......no!!! All my male friends are confident, secure, successful and have only slept with one woman.

willstdumichstressen · 2023-01-15T11:41:21+00:00

I (F) used to be really promiscuous so I had sex with a lot of promiscuous men. They came in all shapes and sizes, really. Honestly, they were mostly just normal people, not super attractive or unattractive. Honestly, what sets them apart from other men is one simple thing: They want to be promiscuous and they don’t doubt that there will be girls who want to have sex with them. They kinda know how to flirt but it’s more about an ability to recognise which girl is open to casual sex to begin with (like in a bar / night club). There’s no secret ingredient and the plain fact that they’re promiscuous doesn’t say pretty much anything about them.

Title	Is it true that promiscuous males are good because they have to be desirable to get sex?
Author	Responsible_Hippo842
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Date	October 27, 2022 11:32 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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