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8th-grade ‘privilege test’ calls out straight white males, intact families, people with money

perplexedm

January 7, 2018
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Title 8th-grade ‘privilege test’ calls out straight white males, intact families, people with money
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perplexedm

Upvotes 751
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Date January 7, 2018 12:12 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
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Comments

[–]mikesteane 152 points153 points154 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Odd to list being a man as a privilege in the context of "To Kill A Mockingbird." Like they are teaching a book they've never read.

[–]perplexedm[S] 58 points59 points60 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is deep injustice and stupid brainwashing against children, imagine the convictions and future of those innocent children if they believe this wholesome? Strange world...

[–]mikesteane 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That is also true and the fact of using a book whose central theme is a man falsely accused of rape who kills himself shows how foolishly blind their own ideology is to reality.

[–]djthememelord 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tom Robinson doesn't kill himself, he gets shot by a prison guard while trying to escape.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right; it's probably two decades since I read it. This doesn't really change my point though.

[–]cardboardbob99 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Half will be snowflakes that cant handle the real world and the others are being brainwashed into approaching life with a chip on their shoulder and to underachieve.

[–]perplexedm[S] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

^ a society fully compatible for feminist victim complex business to thrive.

[–]svenskbitch 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He was unfairly treated because of his race, not his gender. Imagine how unfairly he would have been treated if he were a black woman!

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What? How unfairly would a black woman have been treated if she were accused of raping a white man? He was unfairly treated because of his race, but the story would not make any sense at all had the protagonist been a woman.

[–]svenskbitch 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was looking for an emoji showing a tongue protruding from a cheek, but did not find one. Would that have helped?

[–]mrwhibbley 248 points249 points250 points 8 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

They need to stop calling it privilege as if we are given a head start, instead of calling the others disadvantaged. Privilege is being born to millionaire parents, not just married parents. It's not a privilege to go to college. It costs time and money and effort to go to college. It's a privilege to NOT go to college and have free time and no student loans. Your gender isn't a privilege unless you are in the Middle East. Otherwise it is an excuse for failure instead of the actual reason.

[–]perplexedm[S] 86 points87 points88 points 8 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Actually can't understand what their point is. Intact families are a problem! So every woman should be divorced single women waiting to trap some men, rearing dozen cats or what?

Looks like jealousy against those who didn't fall for stupid movements ?

[–]mrwhibbley 39 points40 points41 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

My parents remained married. That is the best way to be successful. My wife and I have 2 children. We work hard every day to remain in love and help each other. Giving up is easy until you realize how hard it is being a single parent. But there are all these bullshit "hero single mom" memes as if they are great for doing their job and being a failure in the "choosing a guy" or being a wife department. This is not saying men didn't have a role in the failure too, but you don't see "single dad" memes or bragging.

[–]perplexedm[S] 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They encourage women to be failures in real life and winners in feminist utopian memes. Then they fail there to, so wants to pull everyone down like crabs they are.

Don't know why this should be taught to 8th grade children. Who makes these kind of syllabus? Who tolerates this stupidity ? Sheesh.. the world these days...

[–]mrwhibbley 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am acquainted with several middle and high school teachers through my mother who is a retired elementary school teacher. The syllabus is like a road map with locations you need to hit by certain times, but how you get there (within reason) is up to the teacher and student.

[–]Drekalo 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you see the picture of the woman in the article? Feminists like her do.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Most single parents just plop their kids in front of a tv or drop them off at day care because they don't have time to even raise their kid.. They're too busy trying to make ends meet merely o just provide the kid's food, shelter, clothing etc..

[–]mrwhibbley 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most of the single moms I know are shorty parents that use their own relatives as free babysitters why touting their heroic parental struggles as something to be proud of. Sometimes I just want to say "shut up, dance, here's my dollar!"

[–]Aivias 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most single mothers are low-class, low-IQ refuse (though this mostly refers to those of my country). Abortion is fucking free and no0one here gives two fucks if you do it or not.

As selfish as this might sound its totally ruined dating for men past a certain age. Why is it too much to ask for that 25 year olds dont have kids? Now obviously Im seeing these kinds of women more because the ones who dont have kids aint really looking at guys like me but holy shit, two kids at 22? What the actual fuck happened there??

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their point it to create a tribalistic rallying call for leftist progressives. If you disagree with their concept of "privilege" you are to be thought of as sexist and possibly racist and should be regarded as an enemy to any progressive political party. The disagreement will later be used against you.

If you're a male (specifically white) you're supposed to just lock step and agree with them, no questions asked. It's almost like a litmus test of obedience. It serves no other purpose.

[–]MikeyMike01 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Actually can't understand what their point is.

The main objective of radical left wing ideology is to replace all structures in society with the State.

They attack the traditional family unit, because they would prefer the State raised children, provided housing/healthcare/food, etc.

Their end goal is power.

[–]iburiedmyshovel 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

I'm a leftist and I want the state as far away from children as possible. Children who go through the state system come out broken. CPS often fails children who do need them. I'm for public schools, but conservatives seem hell-bent on destroying that system - directly counter to your own narrative (it's a fact that republican states suffer from worse public education, particularly the midwest and south, and that they're intent on replacing science with religion). And we all know what the court system does to families. (Speaking of conservatives, it's funny you think liberals want to replace families with the state, when it's conservatives who want to force the unwilling and incapable into parenthood - it isn't liberals who are the driving force behind broken families in America, see: anti-abortion, anti-sex ed, anti-contraceptives, anti-welfare)

But I do want the state to give to families who are in need, so that they can take care of themselves. Leftists don't want the state to run families, they want it to support them so they can run themselves. And there is no attack on the traditional family unit, unless you consider gay marriage an abomination. In which case you'd be both factually wrong and a dick.

In this example, coming from a family of married parents is listed because it recognizes that married families produce more well-adjusted, successful children. I can't understand how recognizing that is construed as an "attack." Striving to support those from broken families isn't to undermine those from intact families, or to encourage single parent units, it's to help those who are the victims of their circumstances overcome the inherent obstacles they face.

[+]MikeyMike01 -8 points-7 points-6 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Why do you love the State? It does not love you back.

[–]iburiedmyshovel 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

How did you get that from my statement, and how is that all you took away? The state is a tool to be used by the people. As a democratic republic, the state is what we make of it.

[+]MikeyMike01 -10 points-9 points-8 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

What I took from your comment is “I enjoy forcing others at gunpoint to do my bidding”.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

What bidding did OP say he wanted to force others to do?

[–]MikeyMike01 -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Government is a weapon. It is funded by tax dollars, which are collected from its citizens at gunpoint. Anything the government does with those tax dollars is by default unethical.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

OK, so stop using public services funded by government and get off the grid completely.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Government is a weapon

Government is a Tool. it can be for good or ill. What is good for some is not good others.

It is funded by tax dollars, which are collected from its citizens at gunpoint.

Not seeing any guns pointed at people demanding taxes.

Anything the government does with those tax dollars is by default unethical.

So things like Healthcare? Police and Fire protections? Military Protection? Protecting the Rule of Law? All Unethical?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.

[–]iburiedmyshovel -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't get how you can get that message. The idea is that these traits/backgrounds are specifically beneficial to those they apply to, hence privilege. You're looking at it from a mindset of oppression olympics. The implication is, in fact, that coming from a broken family is the problem, yet people from intact families often assume their situation to be the norm and don't consider the negative impact divorce has on children. The purpose is to make people consider the struggles of those who come from disadvantaged backgrounds, and that begins with recognizing what those backgrounds are. You can't claim that having an intact family is better, and then claim that there are no advantages from coming from that family over someone who doesn't. The other pointless argument I see is over the perspective taken: people from these positive backgrounds don't have an advantage, people not from these backgrounds have a disadvantage. People are so concerned about having their own struggles dismissed by being associated with a "privileged" background that they want to fight the whole notion of disadvantage altogether. And I can get that, in that it's a popular tool of feminists to dismiss MRA's - men can't have legitimate issues, because male privilege. You see it in other comments here: "I see plenty of poor white people, being white isn't a privilege." Those people have missed the point. White privilege doesn't equate to being well-off, it equates to immunity from racial discrimination. That's why there are several points related to being poor, like "going to bed hungry," "living in poverty," "my parents pay my bills," etc. You can still be white and come from a disadvantaged background, and this 'test' doesn't contradict that in any way. The only reason to take issue with those points is because you feel your victim card is being invalidated.

There is a legitimate gripe with the use of being male as a privilege. That is something I do take issue with. Simply listing "I am a man," as though women are at a disadvantage from the moment they are born is absurd. There are different struggles between the genders, but those should be covered in particular, which this questionnaire does with "I have never been catcalled," and the like. Generally, the test would be better if it covered every topic this way - the statement "I am white" could have its point made with other statements like "I have never been called a racial slur," amongst the others already used. I almost take issue with other feminist mythological privileges like "I have been paid more for the same work as someone of the opposite gender" (paraphrased), but it allows men to respond equally as women, and there are pay gaps within specific professions, like modelling and porn. Still, that isn't really 'privilege' because it doesn't apply to the whole, but within an acute environment.

At any rate, my point is that this test isn't an attack on anyone, and it's ridiculous to interpret it that way.

[–]perplexedm[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It took awesome lot of time for you to post this.

Do you think 8th grade children deserve this kind of preaching ?

Do you think they conveyed your kind of idea to those children ?

What explanation they are giving to those questionnaires and answers that is important ? If programmed by a radfeminut, it will totally be a disaster.

[–]iburiedmyshovel 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, this was completely inappropriate for 8th graders. I just wanted to point out that the response to the content itself was misguided.

[–]digzilla 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with you entiry, except for white privilege meaning "immune from racial discrimination." Least likely to experience, perhaps, but immune goes too far.

[–]iburiedmyshovel -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea I hear you. Absolutes are never accurate. But you get the gist.

[–]Oftowerbroleaning -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually can't understand what their point is. Intact families are a problem! So every woman should be divorced single women waiting to trap some men, rearing dozen cats or what?

This is exactly what they want. One of the fundamental things communism needs to assert itself is destruction of the family

[–]perplexedm[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think blaming it on communism, Russia, etc. is going to help. Society need to look deep within to know who is tolerating this bullshit and stop that. Stop preaching feminist cult in academics, make women studies really about helping people those need support not helping vagina owners, stop professional victim bullshit business, stop arranging jobs and positions for those from feminist cult for a starter.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would make sense, if their intent was to bring the bottom up, rather than bring the top down.

[–]420weedscopes 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being a women is surely a privledge with all of their quotas for well paying jobs and extra schalarahips for post secondary.

[–]zeroscout -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consider privilege to be a spectrum

[+]zeroscout -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consider privilege to be a spectrum

[–]putamanoutofaplane 50 points51 points52 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Only privileged shitheads think that they can spread their sexist and racist ideology to 13-year-olds in a public school and get away with it.

[–]Lethn 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I encourage any student, parent or teacher who is seeing this sort of thing happening in their school to cause as much havoc as possible over any attempts to indoctrinate children with this bullshit.

[–]Spooner03 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If I was ever presented with a test like this I would refuse to write it. It won’t be apart of my grade.

[–]perplexedm[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't think children in 8th grade are capable to take such informed and well learned stances, all the while those boy hating teachers in sitting on top.

[–]WhiteAsTheNut 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually I’m 80% sure this was a buzzfeed quiz and that actually is fucking retarded.

[–]BloodFartTheQueefer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the same thing but on mobile so can't easily check

[–]v574v 33 points34 points35 points 8 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

Another paper gave the full list of questions:

I am white.

I have never been discriminated against because of my skin color.

I have never been the only person of my race in a room.

I have never been mocked for my accent.

I have never been told I am attractive “for my race.”

I have never been a victim of violence because of my race.

I have never been called a racial slur.

I have never been told I “sound white.”

A stranger has never asked to touch my hair, or asked if it is real.

I am heterosexual.

I have never lied about my sexuality

I never had to “come out.”

I never doubted my parents’ acceptance of my sexuality.

I have never been called “fag.”

I have never been called “dyke.”

I have never been called a “fairy,” or any other derogatory slur for homosexuals.

I have never tried to hide my sexuality.

I am always comfortable with P.D.A. with my partner in public.

I have never pretended to be “just friends” with my significant other.

I have never been ostracized by my religion for my sexual orientation.

I have never been told I would “burn in hell” for my sexual orientation.

I have never been told that my sexuality is “just a phase.”

I have never been violently threatened because of my sexuality.

I am a man.

I feel comfortable in the gender I was born as.

I still identify as the gender I was born in.

I have never tried to change my gender.

I have never been denied an opportunity because of my gender.

I make more money than my professional counterparts of a different gender.

I have never felt unsafe because of my gender.

I have never been catcalled.

I have never been sexually harassed or assaulted.

I have never been raped.

I work in a salaried job.

My family and I have never lived below the poverty line.

I don’t have any student loans.

I have never gone to bed hungry.

I have never been homeless.

My parents pay some of my bills.

My parents pay all of my bills.

I don’t rely on public transportation.

I buy new clothes at least once a month.

I have never done my taxes myself.

I have never felt poor.

I have never had to worry about making rent.

I have never worked as a waiter, barista, bartender, or salesperson.

I have had an unpaid internship.

I have had multiple unpaid internships.

I went to summer camp.

I went to private school.

I graduated high school.

I went to an elite college.

I graduated college.

My parents paid (at least some of) my tuition.

I had a car in high school.

I’ve never had a roommate.

I’ve always had cable.

I have traveled internationally.

I travel internationally at least once a year.

I studied abroad.

I’ve never skipped a meal to save money.

I don’t know what “Sallie Mae” is.

I spent Spring Breaks abroad.

I have frequent flier miles.

My parents are heterosexual.

My parents are both alive.

My parents are still married.

I do not have any physical disabilities.

I do not have any social disabilities.

I do not have any learning disabilities.

I have never had an eating disorder.

I have never been depressed.

I have never considered suicide.

I have never attempted suicide.

I have never taken medication for my mental health.

I can afford medication if/when I need it.

I have never been told I’m overweight or “too skinny.”

I have never felt overweight or underweight or “too skinny.”

I have never been shamed for my body type.

I consider myself to be physically attractive.

I can afford a therapist.

I’ve used prescription drugs recreationally.

I have never had an addiction.

I have never been shamed for my religious beliefs.

I have never been violently threatened for my religious beliefs.

I have never been violently attacked for my religious beliefs.

There is a place of worship for my religion in my town.

I have never lied about my ethnicity as self-defense.

I have never lied about my religion as self-defense.

All my jobs have been accommodating of my religious practices.

I am not nervous in airport security lines.

I have never heard this statement: “You have been randomly selected for secondary passport control.”

I have never been called a terrorist.

Nobody has ever tried to “save” me for my religious beliefs.

I have never been cyber-bullied for any of my identities.

I was not bullied as a child for any of my identities.

I have never tried to distance myself from any of my identities.

I have never been self-conscious about any of my identities.

I have never questioned any of my identities.

I feel privileged because of the identities I was born with.

[–]MachineGunTeacher 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"I work in a salaried job"? For 8th graders? Irritates the fuck out of me when teachers decide they're going to be SJWs and take the students along with them. Fuck that. Just do your job without inserting your stupid fucking opinions.

[–]ether_reddit 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are some values I'd like to see taught in schools: recycle. be kind to animals and the elderly. be polite to people in the service industry. do every job well. keep yourself and your room clean.

[–]MachineGunTeacher 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So schools are now responsible for teaching kids to be good people, too? What are parents for?

[–]ether_reddit 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say responsible. But some parents are lousy teachers, and I'd rather those kids don't miss out entirely, because then we have another generation of shitty adults. We can break the cycle by filling in where parents fail.

[–]WhiteAsTheNut 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s cause this is from a buzzfeed article, the people who distributed this are lazy as fuck.

[–]v574v 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Answered each question honestly and I got 41 out of 100 and I'm a middle class middle aged white man living in a first world nation.

Edit: My wife got 55.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't get how people can be so delusional to think that white people simply don't suffer in society. I'm from a majority white working class city outside of Boston and the plight of poverty I see in my town is the same type of plight I see in majority black projects in new york city.

The only people who support this meme of white people "having it all!" are the upper class white private college students who actually do and are just projecting. They don't have student loans, their parents buy them all their clothes, video games, tech gadgets, pay for uber rides etc.. Go to college on no student loans, or their parents just pay their student loans for them to boost their credit. Most white people where I'm from never get to experience that.

[–]PrivetKalashnikov 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm from the south so I see the same thing. Trailer park kids might be white but it doesn't mean they have any sort of advantages in life. My parents were awful abusive people. I moved out at 17 and I've been on my own since then. I haven't had anything handed to me and I've had to work hard for everything I have. It's really insulting for someone to insinuate that just because I'm a white guy I've been playing life on easy mode.

[+]iburiedmyshovel -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"White privilege" is simply about not facing racial bias and discrimination. Unfortunately, SJWs like to conflate it with wealth privilege. This test, however, recognizes that the barriers against minorities and the barriers against the poor are two separate entities (despite their common overlap).

I work in a salaried job. My family and I have never lived below the poverty line. I don’t have any student loans. I have never gone to bed hungry. I have never been homeless. My parents pay some of my bills. My parents pay all of my bills. I don’t rely on public transportation. I buy new clothes at least once a month. I have never done my taxes myself. I have never felt poor. I have never had to worry about making rent. I have never worked as a waiter, barista, bartender, or salesperson. I have had an unpaid internship. I have had multiple unpaid internships. I went to summer camp. I went to private school. I graduated high school. I went to an elite college. I graduated college. My parents paid (at least some of) my tuition. I had a car in high school. I’ve never had a roommate. I’ve always had cable. I have traveled internationally. I travel internationally at least once a year. I studied abroad. I’ve never skipped a meal to save money. I don’t know what “Sallie Mae” is. I spent Spring Breaks abroad. I have frequent flier miles.

Those are all related to wealth privilege. Only the first 9 are related to white privilege. So, in fact, this test is good for distinguishing between the two, and also emphasizes the importance of wealth over race in terms of privilege. So for you and u/dinnerbro69, it actually validates your experience and perspectives, and may help educate those who refuse to separate "white" from "wealth," while wielding "privilege" as a sword.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

None of that listed is a Privilege of being white.

White Privilege does not exist.

Black and other Visible Minority Privilege sure does though.

[–]Drekalo 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see how "I've used prescription drugs recreationally" is a privilege? Isn't that a vice and possible addiction former?

[–]B_P_G 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of these questions make it clear that this "test" was intended for people who are at least mid-twenties. Definitely not something a middle school student should be taking.

[–]cardboardbob99 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Woot woot! I scored a 77! Shoutout to my parents and grandparents for working hard to give their kids a better life. I will apologize for none of it as that would disgrace the sacrafices of those who came before me.

[–]ToxicPilot 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You scumbag shitlord. /s

[–]Soup_Navy_Admiral 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t know what “Sallie Mae” is.

I question this list's 'Murica privilege.

[–]TutelarSword 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is that I've asked people about this. The ones that need it don't know what it is and those that don't do. The question is just bad.

[–]Spooner03 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did they seriously fucking ask a god 13 year old if they make more money than the other gender? I don’t think you can get a job in most places as a 13 year old. God damn this “test” was so dumb.

[–]pizzagroom 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

37

[–]fuzzypyrocat 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

40/100

[–]Jakalistik 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Straight white male here, apparently I'm not privileged at all?

[–]TutelarSword 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm one of those filthy priveleged white men who is always harassed for it. I scored less than 20. Granted, that's because I actually know my shit such as knowing the gender pay gap is BS, and because I do shit with my life I've been in many more situations where I'm the only white person in a room or I have more chances to be harassed (granted most harassment is from SJW morons that think I'm automatically more priveleged than they are).

[–]Griever114 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was going to copy and paste some of these but i spent more time then i would the response.

HOW THE FUCK IS HALF THIS LIST "PRIVILEGE". My family was poor as shit and EARNED every fucking penny and slaved to get half of these "privileges". Double shifts, scrimping and making choices to get some of these "privileges."

I worked my fucking ass off and had no fucking handouts. I worked and worked to get to where I am. In fact, i was bullied and dealt with plenty of shit.

FUCK this principle.

FUCK this school.

FUCK this bullshit SJW society.

[–]VictorVrine 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are they seriously thinking 13 years olds are "privileged" because their parents pay their taxes?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

If you answered yes to all of these questions yeah you probably are very privileged. Privilege doesn’t have to be a dirty word though. It’s just an acknowledgement that other people have to face struggles that you might never have had to even think about. Only one question directly referenced being a man so I think that’s a very lose connection to this sub. I do think giving it to 8th graders is questionable to say the least, but no one is attacking men. I mean if you were a woman who answered yes to the other 99 questions you’re still very privileged.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

All these questions are created to fulfill a political agenda though. You could create another list to show that women are privileged by asking questions like:

  1. Have you ever been pressured to join a gang?
  2. Have you been assaulted in public?
  3. Have you ever been insecure about the size of your genitals?

And this can run on and on.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you’re looking at it through unfair lenses and your 3 examples kind of points that out especially #3

Women may not be concerned with the size of their vagina, but many are concerned about the size of their breasts. The questionnaire also talks about body confidence and none of those 4 seem targeted to men or women.

I have never been told I’m overweight or “too skinny.” I have never felt overweight or underweight or “too skinny.” I have never been shamed for my body type. I consider myself to be physically attractive

Those seem targeted towards making men seem privileged?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those are fairly neutral, but of course they are informed by the same old body shaming narrative. Questions like "I have never felt like I need bigger muscles" or "I have never worried about people finding me attractive because of my height" would both be questions to do with self-esteem but from the perspective of female privilege.

But of course we hardly need to debate this since "I am a man" is listed on it's own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are fairly neutral, but of course they are informed by the same old body shaming narrative

I’m not sure what you mean here. Men can feel insecure about their bodies or be body shamed. Why is the “same old body shame narrative” bad especially when neutral.

Questions like "I have never felt like I need bigger muscles" or "I have never worried about people finding me attractive because of my height" would both be questions to do with self-esteem but from the perspective of female privilege.

Ok but why have questions like that when you admitted the ones they used were neutral?

But of course we hardly need to debate this since "I am a man" is listed on it's own.

I acknowledged that in my initial comment. They obviously believe men have more privilege than women. But that’s not a significant portion of the quiz. If that was the only thing you answered yes to you wouldn’t be considered very privileged. Even if you disagree that men are privileged it’s 1% of the result. It’s not the end all be all for determining privilege. You could toss that question out and it would still give you virtually the same result. That kind of acknowledges that male privilege isn’t a HUGE privilege.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

a privilege is something you get that you don't necessary deserve; that's what differentiates it from an entitlement

it's really weird how the terms have had their definitions swapped in today's discourse

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The dictionary definitions I looked up dont agree with you.

Entitlement is thinking you deserve a right, privilege or benefit over others. Privilege is a right or benefit over others. Calling someone entitled is more of an insult than calling someone privileged. It’s kind of weird to say someone deserves (or does not) a privilege. It’s usually a roll of the dice out of the persons control.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/privilege

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/privilege

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/entitlement

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Calling someone entitled is more of an insult than calling someone privileged.

That's exactly my point. If I am entitled to something, I have the right to receive it. Calling someone entitled is somehow completely different. If I have the privilege to do something, I do not have the right to do it...or else I would have the right to do it, not the privilege. But saying someone has a privilege now includes all sorts of things that people have a right to, like their skin color. The terms are completely reversible based on context. It's weird.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If I have the privilege to do something, I do not have the right to do it...or else I would have the right to do it, not the privilege. But saying someone has a privilege now includes all sorts of things that people have a right to, like their skin color

I think your confusion comes from your misunderstanding what a right/privilege is.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/right

Scroll down and you’ll see this.

something to which one has a just claim: such as a : the power or privilege to which one is justly entitled voting rights

It can be both. I’m not sure if I’d consider skin color a right, but if you do it’s not conflicting.

As far as your entitled think of it like this Bob is entitled to the 1st class seat he purchased vs Joe thinks he’s entitled to a 1st class seat because of his long legs. The second statement is more insulting because of the difference between the perception and the reality.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bob is entitled vs Joe thinks he’s entitled

Your comparison has nothing to do with the varying definitions of the words. At best it's irrelevant, at worst you're arguing my point for me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your comparison has nothing to do with the varying definitions of the words. At best it's irrelevant, at worst you're arguing my point for me.

The comparison was to help you understand the concept of entitlement. You genuinely seemed to still be confused, sorry if it didn't help. You're the one who started referring to definitions which is why I included them in my previous replies. I honestly don't know if you're trying to argue with me at this point or not.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just answered yes to everything because I like free points in my exams.

100/100 bitches. See y'all in the As.

[–]Aivias -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Asking for people to 'acknowledge their privilege' in the way that you seems to want people to do is nothing more than the bitter jealousy of people who are less capable doing what is essentially stepping into your graduation/promotion/marriage/home purchase celebrations and saying "Hey, I hope you realise that your achievements are worth less. I hope you know that you dont deserve wat you have. I hope you know youre racist/sexist/homophobic for doing these things". Doing that shit face to face would rightly earn you a punch in the mouth so losers do it on the internet where they can pat each other on the pussy for being '''''''''''''''''''heroes''''''''''''''''''''

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Asking for people to 'acknowledge their privilege' in the way that you seems to want people to do is nothing more than the bitter jealousy

Please tell me what way that is? I’m glad I have “““heroes””” like you to tell me my opinions. I don’t remember saying any of that, but it must be true; you’re u/aivias world renowned mind reader. Did you meet your troll quota yet?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not questions are specifically biased towards Straight White Men.

The only group society is allowed to being sexist and racist against.

It’s just an acknowledgement that other people have to face struggles that you might never have had to even think about.

So Straight White Men never have to face struggles that you might never have ever had to think about? Give your Head a shake!!

This whole privilege test is sexist and biased.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So Straight White Men never have to face struggles that you might never have ever had to think about? Give your Head a shake!!

Only one question targets men. Only one question targets white people and even that a white person could respond in the same way depending on the circumstance ( you talk white question). As far as straight, yes a lot of the questions imply straight people have more privilege than gay, but I didn’t know that was debatable. If you think there are more issues that straight people face over gays I’d love to hear them, but I doubt I’d agree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not biased against Straight White Men at all. /S

[–]93re2 70 points71 points72 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

For the school to ask students if they're white as a test question like this is an attack against those of part-European/part-Caucasian ancestry. It's like saying, "Which one are you? Pick a side." It's actually pretty racist.

[–]Lethn 37 points38 points39 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lol It's not 'pretty racist' it is racist :P but I agree with you and when you discover the mentality of the people who write this sort of shit you'll realise just how blatantly racist they are.

The "All I want for Christmas is white genocide" professor is a classic example of this. He hates white people so much he genuinely doesn't think that the shit he advocates for is wrong because he doesn't see whites as human beings to begin with.

[–]Apexbreed 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's pretty much how the holocaust started. Dehumanize your victim, rant about their privileges, exaggerate their damage to society, create laws against them. The rest is history... Or our near future...

[–]ether_reddit 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's making kids feel self-conscious about their race, which perpetuates the problem. Kids don't need more material to tease each other with.

[–]BlueOrange22 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Statistically it makes no sense to consider males privileged, especially in a school setting where boys earn lower grades than girls in all subjects. Even more ironic considering how most teachers are female, and studies now suggest female teachers give boys lower grades

Men are statistically behind for life:

  • less likely to attend university

  • conscription in many countries

  • higher pension ages in many countries

  • higher unemployment rate

  • more likely to be homeless

  • shorter life expectancy yet less funding for gender specific health research

  • less government resources available despite individual circumstances

  • harsher permanent in court system.

[–]JohnKimble111 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

There's an amazing contradiction in the ideology behind this.

On one hand they claim single mothers are amazing and all family types are equally valid and great at raising kids. Meanwhile, they also claim an intact family is a "privilege" thus indicating it is the ideal environment for children to grow up in.

[–]perplexedm[S] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All this is nothing but remorse of those who got caught in that lunatic cult. Just like with some STD wanting to see everyone else suffering from same sickness.

[–]McGauth925 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I believe that the constant focus on privilege is misguided. Now, it's used as a criticism, as though those people are somehow bad. That makes it the same old hate-the-people-from-a-different-group, and then find a rationalization for calling the hatred 'enlightenment'. That's complete BS.

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry for my child being born here and not having an accent. I'm sorry I never divorced my wife and my son has two parents. I'm sorry I've decided that education is important and started saving for his college fund. I'm sorry for buying a house in a low crime neighbourhood so my family can feel safe. I'm sorry both my wife and myself have good jobs so we could afford the things we have. I'm sorry I have personal motivation instead of deciding to sit on a couch and collect welfare. I'm sorry my son is ok with who he is and my wife are accepting of who he is. I'm sorry I decided not to physically or sexually abuse my child. In sorry I've never put my son in life threatening danger. I'm sorry my Asian wife and my white genes helped eliminate genetic abnormalities.

[–]perplexedm[S] 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now that is Canadian level sorry!

Joke aside, these sjws don't know what they want to do with the power they have. Feminists should never be in positions of power, they will guarantee to abuse even the limited power they have.

[–]ether_reddit 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been mocked for my Canadian accent. I said "sorry" in response.

[–]tylamarre 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My deepest condolences

[–]Stuff_And_More 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people on welfare and benefits have motivation and aren't just sitting on a sofa collecting money. It is their to support them because they are going through a bad time. They want to get off benefits but can't for a number of reasons.

[–]Charper82 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How do white genes eliminate genetic abnormalities for Asians? I haven't heard of this

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Its genetic diversity. By mixing genes from different areas of the planet means you are getting a greater diversity of dominant and recessive genes. Or look at sickle cell anemia within African nations. Two positive carriers causes it. Mix another race in and there isn't an issue

[–]Charper82 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm white. Is it always better to have children with another race?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really. It helps in situations where there are carriers of specific genetic factors. There are a crap load of other factors as well as genetics. Societal issues are a big one, where a person would find someone who shares same goals and ideals to be attractive. But, if you are asking if having sex with a relative is okay, then hell no. You need more genetic variance.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sickle cell anemia is a poor example of the principle. What actually causes it is the presence of two sickle cell anemia genes (the disease is recessive). However, a single sickle cell anemia gene (recessive) does not provoke the disease but does confer the benefit of resistance to malaria.

Thus in areas where malaria is not present there is no benefit to the gene at all at benefits increase with the frequency and type of malaria.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not privilege to be born into a normal healthy functioning family. Maybe America should start to look at the fact that the vast majority of us are incapable of cohabiting or developing healthy mentalities which results in broken homes and more neuroses.

[–][deleted] 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]perplexedm[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Things shouldn't reach this level. Unfortunately, this is the world feminists create for everyone.

[–]VictorVrine 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh god

I thought the "privilege test" would stay as just satire and that no one would ever do that irl

WHY

[–]KingRobotPrince 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you lucky if you were born into a stable white middle class family and you've never experienced racism, violence or other harassment? Maybe. Should you made to feel guilty for that fact? Fuck no.

Starting a conversation like this suggests that there is something inherently wrong with not being disadvantaged.

I'm all in favour of the school playing a video of kids living in Africa who can't afford clothes and then asking the kids if they can notice differences and allowing the kids to think organically about difference, forming their own ideas about whether they are better off than some other. But to ram it down kids' throats is likely to demonise them just for not being from a disadvantaged minority.

There's going to be some really messed up kids in a few year's time.

[–]perplexedm[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's going to be some really messed up kids in a few year's time.

Well, feminists professional victims needs to survive. Create a broken society and that is how they do it.

[–]Pathfinder24 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its funny how they think they can put "optional activity" at the top to cover their asses.

"Its ok everyone, our systematic bigotry and indoctrination was optional!"

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shame you fore being born.

[–]sonofsuperman1983 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is how a dystopian future is built. Any type of difference is viewed as a privilege. Soon even those that hit the genetic lottery will have to be scared with acid just to make sure the world is considered fair.

[–]cardboardbob99 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Scariest thing is they buy what they're selling and stand by the concepts that were being taught. I'd pull my kids out of that school if I were in that position

[–]perplexedm[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism should be disqualified from academics.

[–]Dr_Bishop 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope the person who made this test is fired for their race, religion, sexual orientation, and marital status... since they clearly believe that there should be an organized effort to allocate jobs to people based on this criteria.

That would be some real life karma.

[–]bigbronze 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As a guy who actually works in a middle school, I can tell you that a good portion of students at that age will not understand most of those questions they are asking. Most of them are just now trying to figure out there hormones and maintain friendship with each other.

[–]perplexedm[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even without an understanding of those questions, children will answer them, some stupid teacher or others will pass comments, opinions will be formed. Children by that hormonal age, especially girls know how to work it around for bad results.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The evil UN and their evil Common Core strike again.
https://www.google.com/search?q=common+core+white+privelege

[–]SoulofEquality 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was inappropriate. Not because of the age of the students, but because if you really want to teach children about equality, it'd behoove teachers to not make the "privileged" kids feel badly for being born or give the "unprivileged" kids a victim complex.

[–]tinsins 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at the picture of the obese, militant lesbian superintendent that green lighted this prejudiced white privilege test. She is a disgustingly obese, angry SJW attempting to sway the minds of innocent children that don't understand that she concocted this to push her SJW agenda.

[–]perplexedm[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope she got called out for propagating her lunatic cult.

[–]TastyTacoLLC 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can check the top one but none of the others in the picture.

[–]EvilDog77 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'Badger' in 'West Bend'? Is this a parody article?

[–]xaplomian 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I have never been the only person of my race in a room" Go into a room alone and that box can't be ticked, what sort of useless question is that?

[–]thehunter699 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since when does not being called a terrorist a privalege. Fucking next thing you know they will add "I've never been called a cunt".

[–]0vesper0 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the concept of teachers talking to students about the possible advantages and disadvantages each student may face based on factors they have little to no control over. I don't even mind them using a questionnaire format, as long as the teacher followed up with a conversation to provide further context. However, in this case, I don't believe that this test was written with the best intent and information to help students understand broader social issues and discrimination.

Ideally, I'd hope that such an activity would help students recognize diversity and be able to sympathize with others, rather than reinforce negative stereotypes or support a victim mentality. What questions could best accomplish this task? I'm not entirely certain, but I'd be interested to see how this could be improved upon.

[–]Moonvie 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2018, the year when having your shit together became a crime. I can only see magnificient and wonderful things come out of this.

[–]HumicShit 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's from a buzzfeed quiz. I know because I took it as a joke.

[–]BloodFartTheQueefer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reads a lot like the buzzfeed privilege test I did 2 years ago. Anyone else? It may have actually been ripped from there.

[–]duhhhh 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you haven't read the book or watched the movie Harrison Bergeron, I suggest you do. The rich and powerful handicap everyone with any talent (but them) so everyone (else) is equally average. Dystopian novel or plan for the future?

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, they are preparing the population for more wealth redistribution up wards. Imo.

Notice how the elite keep their extended families, privlage, wealth, collectivism and class interests intact but we are supposed to give up everything, even relationships between men and women.

[+]fuckin_bubbles -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

go home commie trash

[–]Juicyjackson 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t see how having intact families, and having money is a “privilege” isn’t it just that your parents worked really hard to get you the best life possible? If anything it should not be a privilege but a reward for your parents working hard, instead of getting pregnant to a random guy that your mom will never see again, and spending hundreds if not thousands of more hours in school studying to get a so called “privilege for you”.

[–]issan1mountain 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"""""""""""""test""""""""""""

[–]ee4m -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, they are preparing the population for more wealth redistribution up wards. Imo.

Notice how the elite keep their extended families, privlage, wealth, collectivism and class interests intact but we are supposed to give up everything, even relationships between men and women.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A teacher told attendees at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics Monday night that he helped write the controversial Common Core education standards to end white privilege.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/media/Teacher-admits-he-helped-write-Common-Core-to-end-126509.php
The origins, from the most powerful UN official that ever lived.
http://robertmuller.org/rm/R1/World_Core_Curriculum.html
and http://www.unesco.org/education/tlsf/mods/theme_c/popups/mod18t01s03.html
Now I expect to be buried, due to me insulting the holy and pure UN.

[–]perplexedm[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now I expect to be buried, due to me insulting the holy and pure UN.

UN is full of #he4she feminuts now, a giant money pit which if dissolved nothing much will change.

[–]ee4m -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you think ending white privilege is code for making everyone equally poor internationally?

[–]notacrackheadofficer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes.

[–]perplexedm[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

but we are supposed to give up everything, even relationships between men and women.

No one forced anyone ?

[–]ee4m 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Propaganda can be coercive, manipulating minds with deceptive ideology.

[–]perplexedm[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fault of those who believed in propaganda? Fault of those who supported, believed and are pushing others to fall into stupidity like themselves.

Problem with intact families ? wtf ?

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You are showing the power of propaganda.

The right wing brainwashing that its never the fault of those in charge. Its always the individuals fault.

The church used the same misdirection. They brainwashed people to believe their own sin was the reason they suffered while the elite lived lives of extreme wealth.

[–]perplexedm[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying individuals do have a good role in keeping their own family saved from bullshit propaganda. You don't need to believe in every bullshit you hear which flips as per time of the day. If somebody believed in all this, it is partially his /her own fault.

I do understand propaganda is a huge problem though.

[–]ee4m 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I know, but brainwashing kids. Its not going to be their fault when they grow up thinking an intact family is bad.

[–]perplexedm[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The right wing brainwashing that its never the fault of those in charge. Its always the individuals fault.

So, you think it is conservatives those who are against intact families?

Then why is radfems and gender fluid folks from all movements as in color of rainbow, always are supportive of such ideas as in this very article?

Are you creating confusion as in which is which? Blame conservatives for faults created by lunatic liberals without any core constructive philosophy that they will devour the leftist movement itself?

[–]ee4m 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

So, you think it is conservatives those who are against intact families?

Not social conservatives.

The right wants self serving individualism. Human collectivism has been slowly broken down over time in the west, from the natural collectivism of tribes, to the isolated nuclear family, and now thats being destroyed. When the right introduced patriarchy theory to the left, it destroyed the left (and the civil right movement) it destroyed it because men became the new enemy, men and women were recast as individualist capitalist market competitors instead of a collective.

Then why is radfems and gender fluid folks from all movements as in color of rainbow, always are supportive of such ideas as in this very article?

They are the right, modern feminism and postmodernism was weaponized and spread by cia and ford foundation.

[–]perplexedm[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whether they are left or right, they don't deserve to go on like this.

[–]fuckin_bubbles 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no-one should listen to this trash person, who thinks that if they were in charge of the communist regime that things would be perfect. "Not his communism" he would say, as he marches you all off to the work camps.

[–]svenskbitch -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dear all,

I would like to be critical but constructive about an assumption behind this thread that recurs in MRM discussion fora and that I find misguided and counterproductive.

The privilege narrative is misguided; Hayek said that the idea that you can influence aggregate behaviour is a "fatal conceit" that may be attractive, but, when taken to its logical extent, will lead to tyranny.

But let us not fall into the rabbit hole of conflating men's issues with those of whites or heterosexuals. It is indeed still much easier to be white and heterosexual, but it was never easier to be a man than a woman (other things being equal).

My white privilege is everywhere. When I travel the Middle East as a policy consultant, I get credibility and goodwill that no Arab of my "rank" would get, while my Mexican colleague was openly mocked as Filipino and black Africans are outcasts. When I walk in a park at night behind a woman, she often turns around nervously, sees me, and is relieved. And, of course, as a white person from a rich country, I have had access to world-class education and got to attend a leading US university with a generous scholarship.

Conversely, as a gay man, I grew up hating myself to the core, surrounded by peers calling fags disgusting, pedophiles. A good 50% of my friends of that generation have experienced some kind of physical assault because of their sexuality, and once I was put out on the street when my bfs family found out we were together. Today it is much better, but even my gay friends frown at our wish to engage a surrogate, and even my gay colleague felt the need, as subtly as he could, to check up on me when his son insisted that we play in his room.

So to be honest, white and straight people should be able to take it. The world is more likely to be open to you, other things being equal.

In contrast, treating maleness in the same way is unconscionable. It is, after all, the gender most likely to die soon, experience violence, including domestic and, by some measures, sexual, suffer harsher punishment, lose access to family, or become homeless or otherwise dissociated from society. All factors that would apply to blacks more than whites.

Conflating these issues is what makes it still so easy to dismiss MRM, putting them in the same ballpark as white nationalists or evangelist right wingers worried about the dissolution of the family since the dawn of time. After all, that stereotypical disaffected low-skilled blue collar straight white man we are talking about, the one that lost his job in a WV coal mine, prompting his wife to leave him and the judge to award ridiculous child support payments - which factor (apart from lack of education) hurt him the most, his race, his sexuality, or his gender?

For me, the answer is obvious. But for those who honestly think he is a victim because he is white: perhaps we can at least agree to use this forum to discuss gender issues?

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Um... I wouldn't trust TheBlaze

Maybe do fact checking. Don't believe everything you hear on the internet guys

[–]dadibom 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so... how did you fact check complex.com?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I compared it to many other, similar reports about TheBlaze. It's just one example of a warning on TheBlaze.

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