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Dilbert on Dongles

cafeconkarma

March 22, 2013

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Title	Dilbert on Dongles
Author	cafeconkarma
Upvotes	1300
Comments	131
Date	March 22, 2013 4:36 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1at1w6/dilbert-on-dongles/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/dilbert-on-dongles.1608816 https://theredarchive.com/post/1608816

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High school. Because that's what your points sound like. Seriously, you sound like a damn teenager who knows everything.

You can drag out some accusation of ageism or some other nonsense, but it's been my observation that with age comes experience, and with experience hopefully a bit of wisdom. You're overall attitude on this topic strongly implies you have neither the experience nor the wisdom to draw from, or showing a bit of restraint and some common sense.

I've always had a way of letting my mouth get me into trouble. Some off the cuff remark meant in jest that gets me at best a dirty look or at worst a heated argument. A couple of times written up for something someone overheard me say that they didn't deem appropriate.

I'm not saying walk around on eggshells and say nothing to no one ever. But be reasonable. There are some people that just like to get offended at anything. They like to make a big fuss over nothing. And sometimes that can be a real problem. This guy that lost his job over a dongle joke for example. A husband and father of 3 is out of a job because some twunt was within ear shot of him making the kind of joke Best Buy used in a commercial. It wasn't even directed at her. If that was enough to get this guy fired, how much more so if you say "niggardly" to some black person at the office, not giving a shit how they might react?

Companies won't put up with that. It doesn't matter what you meant or how it was said. Know why? Because they are afraid of getting their asses sued for sexual harassment, racism, or sexism. That's just the facts. And if you're looked at as a liability, your ass is gone.

While you may be well within your rights to speak your mind and "fuck anyone who doesn't like it", know and understand that philosophy will one day certainly come back to haunt you. Trying to break bad on the rest of us who've been there and done that before is, well, juvenile.

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Look at it this way: you're a hunter-gatherer in a cave with your wife and kids.

Hunter-gatherers live in bands of 10 to 50 people. They know how to keep wild animals at bay. They are forcefully egalitarian, they have elaborate social rituals to prevent one member from taking credit for something big (such as killing a tiger). They do not tolerate anything remotely resembling an "alpha" (remember that story about chimpanzees banding together killing their alpha? Unlike chimpanzees, humans have language and can coordinate such acts very efficiently in small groups, meaning that unless you can beat all your rivals combined, you just won't be boss in a human band)

Hunter gatherer bands have some division of labor between the sexes, but far less than agricultural societies. In most, women also hunt some game. In every single we know about, men also forage. Women's disadvantage in throwing a spear, firing a bow or using an atlatl is very, very modest - a forager woman will not wait for a man to save her if she's attacked by an animal.

(By the way, go to youtube and look up atlatl videos. Atlatls are popular in strange demographics - It's rather funny to see portly American fiftysomething women, with glasses and fanny packs, negligently swish their atlatls to send a spear flying in 90+ mph.)

This has been your daily dispelling of stone age cliches, hope you've enjoyed it, hope it'll be a while until you need it again. Thank you.

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Didn't the author of Dilbert try to attack MRAs, only to get slammed by feminist nuts who thought he was attacking them?

The extremists on the far ends of any spectrum tend to look eerily alike. MRAs who, despite what they might say, are mainly motivated by anger and bitterness tend to look a lot like gender-flipped feminists who, despite what they might say, are mainly motivated by anger and bitterness. In the same way, the most extreme ends of the "left/right" political spectrum, communists and fascists, just look like "totalitarian bad guys."

Then there are extremist MRAs and feminists who are open about their anger and bitterness. Still unsavory, but I thank them for at least being intellectually honest about it.

Traditional society had to marshall the labor of countless men and women to function. On the face of it, the idea that all of the oppression of traditional society was all by one gender on another is clearly bunk. It defies common sense! There's no societal oppression involved in making men go off to fight and die? Come on! Likewise, there's no societal oppression involved in women being essentially "owned" by men and kept in the house? Come ON!

Both men and women have been screwed by society. Both men and women have distorted perceptions left over from societal conditioning with historical origins. Both men and women have been conditioned by society to oppress both men and women.

Let's all acknowledge this, then get on with building a society where no one is judged based only on their gender.

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Dude, I've had customers in the last 5 years that run various versions of DOS, DR DOS, FREEDOS, Win3.11WFW, Win95 and so on. And these are production machines, running software that they purchased new with the machine. This software got updates until the developer quit/died/company got acquired, and since they bought the software for $dollars once, they don't want to make another "capital investment", so it stays running on the same machine it was purchased for.

You will go out to this place because a city-wide blackout taxed the UPS, whereupon the UPS died, giving its last electron to power the 486, the 13" CRT, and the 24-pin Raven dot matrix printer. You will go out to ascertain why it is that the computer cannot be found by the computers of the bun-haired ladies in the office - they figured the salesman would plug it back in after using the cable to download whatever he needed, and of course he did not. You will recall all the arcane digital yoga moves required to enter the BIOS screen, as the parallel port appears to have disappeared after the last unscheduled reboot.

Fret not, young tech - you do not learn the ancient ways in vain, for you will need them. You may go aeons thinking you can expunge that knowledge in favour of newer, more powerful spells, and as tempting as it may be, I strongly caution against it, for one day you may find yourself pitted against a mighty, Eldritch foe, and this knowledge you acquire now will serve you well.

*edited for spelling

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Hardware, yes - but infrastructure is hella expensive. For a manufacturing operation to upgrade to Cat6 for the entire operation, up from the just-barely-Cat5-plus-Token-Ring, plus new platform (since the old software won't work on anything newer, not and have clients!) and client front-ends. Even a 50-150 person operation, including the manufacturing end may top 55,000 just for network and mains wiring, depending on whether someones been smart enough to hire an electrical engineer (more money!) to properly account for current and future workstation locations for both power and networking.

Add that to the cost of a new server and whatever CRM software (and this was a expediting business, so truck tracking software is a must!), plus time (more money) to configure the clients and troubleshoot what they want to work, versus how they need to change how they do things, so you can set up training (ooh, more money!).

And I'm not taking the piss, either - upgrading can be hellaciously costly, especially on the payroll end during training.

FWIW, I agree in principle with your assessment. The way real-life businesses are arranged, all change is incremental, and you have to apply real-time triage as to what needs to be replaced or upgraded.

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