I Never Thought I Needed MensRights...

WomenAreAlwaysRigh · 2014-05-29T01:34:43+00:00

Yeah. The manhate after the shooting has been impressive, even scary. I never really felt under attack for being a men, but afther all this #yesallwomen and media anti MRA savagery, I definitely do.

javi404 · 2014-05-29T01:59:53+00:00

....whole new generation of men who will see women as angry, hateful people who don't deserve kindness. It's terrible...but it's real.

And as a mid thirties male, I will do my best to spread the word to the younger males to watch out for this new breed of feminist that hates men.

winelover08816 · 2014-05-29T02:14:18+00:00

Let's also not forget the three Asian Male roommates who were also murdered: Weihan "David" Wang, Cheng Yuan Hong, and George Chen.

I guess the narrative of three dead Asian Males isn't compelling when you have the option to plaster dead blonde sorority girls on every screen in North America? It is a truth that the media completely ignores when minority women and men go missing or die...mostly because, in America, minority groups are less equal than Caucasian Blondes.

We should remember these other victims of Elliot Rodger, and remember that we don't deserve to be victimized and scapegoated because of the actions of a few.

warsie · 2014-05-29T02:00:18+00:00

They'll just inspire more misogyny, think this guy. He's not going to stop hating women by also being associated with a pipsqueak who couldn't get his pee pee touched. We just have to tell these men about some of the good women out there and that not all women are like all these. I think the MRM is also one of the best ways to reach out to such actual misogynists and make them love women. Come to us MRA and you'll see there are many good women who care about and love men and boys and don't enjoy telling lies like the feminists.

Heavy_In_Your_Arms · 2014-05-29T05:15:33+00:00

Hello, so I am a female and I habitually frequent both r/mensrights and r/feminism. I agree and disagree on varying things within each group.

On the topic of men being perceived as monsters by women: I am a victim of a violent stranger-rape. I do not think this entitles me to stereotype ALL men as predators, but I'm certainly going to be weary of EVERY man I encounter. This isn't because I hate or blame men for what happened to me, but because I am traumatized and something in my brain says "analyze, scrutinize, do whatever it fucking takes not to end up in that situation again!"

That being said, my weariness, and the weariness of other females, should not involve being rude to men, or spreading hateful propaganda that generalizes all men as one nasty thing or another. Women should never look at a man and automatically catagorize him as a monster based on their previous experiences? But I believe she has every right to have a conscious awareness that any male COULD be a threat.

And on a whole different note, if rape is going to be discussed with younger generations, it should be made clear that both men and women can be raped. It should be loud and clear to our children that it is not only males who are rapists.

dejour · 2014-05-29T05:35:26+00:00

Great point.

There are psychological phenomena (Pygmalion effect and Golem effect) that suggest that people live up or live down to expectations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_effect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem_effect

DavidByron2 · 2014-05-29T04:02:18+00:00

I love the #YesAllWomen hashtag because it so clearly illustrates feminist hatred of men. It's brutally disgusting and prejudiced. In your face nasty. Even better the feminists are obviously proud of their "success" here. There's no way for them to make their usual excuse for anti-male hatred that "not all feminists are like that" when it's obvious such a hugely popular thing.

in trying to stop misogyny

Ah you don't get it yet. They aren't trying to stop misogyny. As you yourself pointed out if they wanted to something positive this would have been a disaster. What they are trying to do is spread lies that make women fear and hate men.

guywithaccount · 2014-05-29T05:50:02+00:00

Yeah, well, welcome to the truth. Sorry about the bumpy ride.

tallwheel · 2014-05-29T04:06:23+00:00

The sad thing is that I actually do feel kind of bad to be a man lately thanks to all of this - and I shouldn't. I can't help that I was born male.

knowless · 2014-05-29T04:22:12+00:00

Your last paragraph is the scariest part about this. Anyone with a mental disorder who grows up in a world where the gender dynamics are so quickly shifting, where there's this romanticism of the good ol days (mostly the 60's) where men worked and women cooked and cleaned, and hears feminists rhetoric and attributes it to rational women and not women who are just as much (if not more) mentally ill than they are might act out violently. Men tend to externalize their rage, while women hold it in. So female resentment towards men, which isn't addressed out of laziness, might one day be met with male rage that can't be cured with Twitter trends. Its Boko Haram syndrome. Twitter trends don't stop madmen who feel they have been pushed to the limit.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-05-29T01:14:04+00:00

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knowless · 2014-05-29T13:02:34+00:00

They're not trying to stop anything, they know they can dismantle communities by destroying the boys.

ExpendableOne · 2014-05-29T13:17:02+00:00

It's ironic that they would feel justified in fearing or hating men when they are the ones who are displaying some psychotic levels of apathy, narcissism and prejudice. Who should we really be scared of? The people who are showing absolutely no hint of shame or remorse to their own mistreatment of men, and who have demonstrated themselves to be capable of threats, false allegations and violence? Or the people who are taking the abuse/slandering and continue to live with it in peace every day anyway, and who would probably do anything to make women happy in the first place? It's sad, really.

paracog · 2014-06-09T19:56:32+00:00

This is just fine with the people who own and run the world. Letting women alienate the men who might have in the past protected them from exploitation is a winning strategy for the 1%. So women go around crowing about over-representation in overpriced and largely useless university studies, and in crappy high-pressure corporate slogs. Useful idiots.

winelover08816 · 2014-05-29T12:57:36+00:00

A little anecdote from this very morning:

I was in Starbucks and pulled out my phone to check in on social media (I am mayor and duke for this location). A woman in front of me who was wearing yoga pants immediately scurried away and turned to face me, ensuring that her ass was hidden.

SHE ASSUMED I WAS GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE.

Really? What the legitimate fuck is that? I have been pissed for the past hour over this. She assumed that because I am male and have a cellphone that I am also a pervert. Fuuuuuuuck!

I am beginning to see all female strangers on the street as hateful creatures. Thank The Lord I have positive women in my life to counter this.

winelover08816 · 2014-05-29T20:02:20+00:00

Another thought:

Politically I am very liberal, and I believe that we should aspire to the goal that we should one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character.

But, when you change "color of your skin" to "contents if your undergarments" liberals around me started freaking out. Sure, if you're a transsexual or a woman, it's all "you go girl!" but that is as far as liberal guilt seems to go for some people.

It does make me question my role as a warrior and whether I am fighting for the right side. Frankly, the friends who blocked me on Facebook for not joining in the "Death to Men" chants have done me a favor.

Can I get an Amen?

aussietoads · 2014-05-29T01:52:58+00:00

Treat a man like a dog, then don't be surprised if he bites you.

Karissa36 · 2014-05-29T15:38:01+00:00

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/26r4x2/because_were_taught_dont_run_into_open_traffic/

Does anyone else see the irony of these two posts, and corresponding comment threads, appearing on /r/MensRights in the same two hour period?

On the alternate thread, everyone pretty much agrees that women should watch their own damn drink, and take responsibility for their own safety.

On this thread, women are vilified for assuming that men might be dangerous.

Pick a side, any side, but you can't have both sides.

redavid · 2014-05-29T02:06:00+00:00

They're not saying all men are horrible at all, they're saying all women have to deal with horrible shit from (not all) men.

Maybe men could read some of those stories and learn something about what women go through rather than getting all defensive.

assignation · 2014-05-29T01:27:23+00:00

Seems the women are saying the guys are already violent so it doesn't do any harm to point it out. Won't make it any worse, you dig? And what makes you think any of them "might have been supportive"? If you read the hashtag, guys don't dseem to be wanting to be supportive at all.

I Never Thought I Needed MensRights...

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YesAllWomen is sort of a response to that. Yes, not all men are assholes, but all women have to deal with some men who are.

Title	I Never Thought I Needed MensRights...
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Date	May 29, 2014 1:13 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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