Stop saying the left has changed. Stop calling it the left. It’s Feminism.

Futureman999 · 2025-01-17T09:11:49+00:00

THE POWER OF ONE THE POWER OF MAAANY

Naw but you're right. Goddamn even reddit has changed its tune a bit since the election. All those social media CEO's spinning like tops reversing their DEI policies. People seem to be more openly criticizing women lately, which was absolutely forbidden on reddit just a few months ago. It was like nobody had the nerve. The fck are we so scared of?

I'll tell you, I did not foresee any of this. I thought social divides would be rich vs. poor, black vs. white, North vs. South, blue collar vs. white collar, etc. Instead we have one side (female) waging war against us, trying to make our lives suck, and we're just shrugging and apologizing to avoid "talking back". geez

It could be just a lot of people, especially young people, have limited expectations for their future and they're looking for a scapegoat. Women found men to blame, but men still haven't found anybody to blame but themselves.

tilldeathdoiparty · 2025-01-17T02:13:01+00:00

If no one is checking the radical views of the extremists, then you are part of it.

Unnecessary_Timeline · 2025-01-17T02:16:30+00:00

Personally, I believe that American academia is the primary source of the rot within both feminism and the Democratic Party. And I say this as a committed American leftist (which is why I consider myself a leftist and not a democrat).

Academic language has invaded normal human dialogue like a parasite.

So many people use therapeutic and academic terms which previously had specific use-cases exclusively used in research articles. They’ve been purposefully diluted into meaninglessness and derogatory buzzwords thanks to pundits on traditional media (who have all been through the machine of academia, even the conservatives).

Feminists successfully hijacked academia to put themselves into institutional positions of power while still using the power of academic “research” to frame themselves as victims, and perpetually funding that research from their positions of power.

eternal_kvitka1817 · 2025-01-17T10:21:15+00:00

Yes, the left allowed misandrists to represent them. Also conservatives can't be allies by default. They support traditional gender roles. Traditional gender roles are core of misandry, male disposability.

phoenician_anarchist · 2025-01-16T23:49:57+00:00

No, no, it's "the left", or "progressives" or "sjws" or "the woke" or "commies" or whatever name were using to describe these people today. Feminism is simply one expression of the underlying philosophy.

And Feminism has always been hateful, ever since the beginning.

mrmensplights · 2025-01-17T02:42:25+00:00

The left today is feminism.

Critical theory and intersectional feminism is their dominant political ideology. When left wing presidents and prime ministers go out of their way to pay lip service to it, and their parties works hard to push this ideology throughout all government institutions and as propaganda through news and cultural output then what you have is the new state religion of the left.

Identity politics + power dynamics incarnated over and over for each identity group they want to conquer. Patriarchy for women. Colonialism, whiteness and white supremacy for minorities. Heteronormativity for LGB, cisnormativity for trans. Always an oppressed, always a scapegoat, always join us to be strong and fight back. But never classism because those who divide and conquer would never have their own weapon turned against them.

The left you're talking about is long dead. Attacked in the mid 2000s and left for dead as we emerged into the 2010s. Whether you admire progressive liberalism, third way, or classical liberalism.. all are dead and replaced by hegelian-marxist inspired postmodernist critical theory-influenced neo-progressivism. You mention Bernie Sanders. How old is he? Noam Chomsky perhaps? There is no younger generation espousing those rational and more centrist ideas today. The dominate left wing ideology now actively attacks and criticizes the ideas they once stood for.

Today we just get champagne social justice. You can cast down hate and scorn on the working class, protect yourself from class solidarity turning against you by making the people attack each other over identity markers, commissar cancel your enemies into oblivion, and still put on the performative good guy act while you do it. Meanwhile they sell us out to line their pockets and the world goes to shit.

FineDingo3542 · 2025-01-17T01:41:18+00:00

I think feminism IS the left now. Most common sense thinking people have either moved right or left the conversation.

walterwallcarpet · 2025-01-17T07:57:43+00:00

All the EEO, AA, ESG, DEI and the rest of the BS is thinly-disguised warfare against men. Particularly of one variety. They know that a man without a job might as well not exist. https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf

Here's where the madness has brought us to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EK9YpcOACk

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/14/the-la-fires-are-the-horrifying-consequence-of-democratic-misrule/

laelapslvi · 2025-01-17T00:47:06+00:00

Where are the left-wing groups that oppose sexism? Note that subreddits and the like don't count.

Grand-Juggernaut6937 · 2025-01-17T00:07:05+00:00

It’s not just the sexists, it’s the racists too. They became the party of identity politics and politically correct bigotry.

Feminism is just one branch of their warped ideology

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-01-17T07:32:16+00:00

I'm glad someone noticed this, Non hetero feminists control the Left/Democrats. Most of the real democratic party left and voted for Trump. The rest of them who are still on the Left, have no idea who is driving the ship. They are lost.

And unless they either overthrow the non hetero feminists in charge, or turn them into real Democrats, or start a new Democratic Party and call it something else, the is no future for the Left as their own Party.

The_Dapper_Balrog · 2025-01-17T18:51:15+00:00

It is indeed the left.

It's also the right.

Everyone — all sides — have become significantly more autoritarian and exclusionary over the last couple of decades.

Now, I think the left have done it slightly more than the right has, thus why they lost the election this time around (though that is only one of many factors which determined their loss), but both do it pretty regularly.

Excellent_You5494 · 2025-01-17T00:09:59+00:00

It's not just feminism, feminism is just leftist.

It's the left.

They all subscribe to parts of communism and intersectionality dealing with hierarchy and privilege, the ol' proletariat vs bourgeoisie.

The few leftists who don't believe in this are called conservative by the wider left.

Men, as a gender, are considered the most privileged class, men are part of the bourgeoisie to the left.

Halfpricedhamsters · 2025-01-17T04:51:00+00:00

You can tell the problem is feminism and more accurately womanhood because there was little serious conversation about jobs.

Omecore65 · 2025-01-17T00:09:44+00:00

It’s the left, has been the left, will be the left. These posts are just delusional men lefties ignoring the fact their party diminishes their value and they are trying to cope by disenfranchise elements of their party saying it’s not true leftism. I will continue to call it the left because thats what it is.

No-Feedback7437 · 2025-01-17T14:49:54+00:00

I think that it should be called the dark agenda

bryoneill11 · 2025-01-19T03:11:00+00:00

Lol it's exactly the left. Feminism is a tool from the left.

White_Buffalos · 2025-01-17T09:09:49+00:00

All of the West has become too feminized. The balance is lost. And I'm a male liberal and a Democrat.

SWatt_Officer · 2025-01-16T23:45:13+00:00

From the perspective of most of Europe, both the US 'left' and right are both right-wing. Your left-wing got taken out back and shot during the Red Scare.

EriknotTaken · 2025-01-17T13:41:51+00:00

But it is so sinister....

Swanky_Gear_Snob · 2025-01-17T13:53:20+00:00

I personally think it's actually an amalgamation of a zio-communist ideology.

ZookeepergameFit5787 · 2025-01-18T03:14:12+00:00

If there is no return to the madness of the last four years, it will still take the west multiple generations to detox and recover.

aircoft · 2025-01-23T19:41:58+00:00

I'd argue feminism is one of a few tools fabricated, fortified, and deployed by the left, who are the underlying problem... Don't be fooled into thinking it's just feminism - it's all sorts of identity politics. Voting for, or otherwise supporting anyone, based purely on their genitalia, skin color, sexual preferences, how oppressed they pretend to be, etc. is nothing short of absolute foolishness. Many people have recently come forward about how they didn't leave the left, the left left them, or how they were on the left, their positions remained the same, yet the left became so radicalized, when the smoke cleared, they found themselves on the right.... :/

Top_Row_5116 · 2025-01-17T01:20:00+00:00

We need to take a neutral perspective to things like this. I don't really like grouping all of feminism into a ball, cause not all of feminism is a men hating cult. Not all of 'the left' is a men hating cult. But the way you are wording this post, you make it sound like feminism is the root of all evil.

Some people are just uninformed. Our movement is not that big, and it hasn't reached very many people on either side. It's not fair to judge a whole lot of people on just pure conditioning from society. And its not fair to pre-judge every feminist cause some of them are genuinely good people who support mens rights.

Overall, I really don't think we should make over-generalizations like this. It's not good for our movement in any way. We aren't a feminism hate group. We are a men's rights activist group. The two shouldn't mix.

White_Buffalos · 2025-01-17T09:21:23+00:00

People don't understand the idea of "conservative": Anyone who strongly endorses adherence to any rigid orthodoxy is conservative in their application of their worldview. It doesn't matter if they are very far Left or Right. Their mindset is conservative because it isn't open to new ideas or ways of doing things.

Pulp_Ficti0n · 2025-01-17T01:20:56+00:00

This is relative. My wife is a self-described feminist but is not a bra burning, pussy hat wearing, kind. She didn't like Hillary or Kamala (also loathes Trump). She's anti-DEI in its current form. She's not "woke" in the present sense, either. She understands and even tends to agree (sometimes, not all the time) about concerns of male disparagement in American society.

Subscribing broad pejoratives does nothing to get to the root of prejudices.

Also, I'd argue that the right routinely engages in their own version of cancel culture and it's getting insanely worse. But it's easier just to malign the "left" because of political convenience.

NotACerealStalker · 2025-01-17T05:56:53+00:00

Alright I guess this is a right wing sub now.

plainoldusernamehere · 2025-01-17T06:47:38+00:00

Now do a comparison of the behavior of modern leftists, feminists, and zionists. It’s all the same garbage victim hood shit.

My honest opinion is Zionism is what created both feminism and the psycho commies.

ThrowawayAccount_OMG · 2025-01-17T03:21:39+00:00

It’s both really

WeEatBabies · 2025-01-17T03:51:14+00:00

The left is supposed to be pro-workers!

This is why the soviet union had the sickle and hammer on their flag!

Most other countries flags represent their religion or nature.

The soviet union flag represented the worker, unique in all countries and this is why I love it so much!

Giving preference for universities entries, jobs and government benefits to people who don't work as hard or don't work at all is not pro-worker.

It's pro-laziness.

Feminism has nothing to do with the real left!

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-01-17T03:01:36+00:00

These comments are FANTASTIC!! I had no idea the members of this sub are so politically knowledgeable. GOOD JOB PEOPLE 👍

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-01-17T08:39:00+00:00

It’s crazy how we weren’t even allowed to vote in politics at first before the term left was even created, but you go and say that they’re all feminist. OK bud think you need some help you might need to go get checked.

Title	Stop saying the left has changed. Stop calling it the left. It’s Feminism.
Author	RealStarkey
Upvotes	442
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Date	January 16, 2025 11:39 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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