World's largest mining company openly discriminating against men in recruitment

JohnDoethan · 2020-07-02T05:26:54+00:00

How the fuck is this even legal?

RandallBarber · 2020-07-02T09:19:58+00:00

Rather than posting "Best person for the job opportunities" they are writing off 50% of the applicants with "Female opportunities".

When companies put group identify before merit, they fail. The market dictates.

mr_sinn · 2020-07-02T08:33:31+00:00

I've worked for GE Oil & Gas in Australia. "Posative Discrimination" is a word which gets thrown around a lot like it's a service to the community.

Talbooth · 2020-07-02T04:53:54+00:00

I mean... we have always been complaining about why women don't take up mining instead of office work /s

SiegW · 2020-07-02T08:42:04+00:00

Australia

Of fucking course lmao

Omar-Elsayed · 2020-07-02T12:18:02+00:00

Watch, when more women die in the workplace, they're probably going to blame it on the men.

corniergangrene · 2020-07-02T10:38:39+00:00

It's Australia...probably the most feminist place on this planet. I believe one such woman (Clementine Ford) from there tweeted about how men weren't dying fast enough from covid-19...

The_Kids_Lying · 2020-07-02T12:54:52+00:00

I had a speaker come to my MBA class from Ingersoll Rand, an engineering firm, who made it very clear that they were trying to get a 50/50 distribution in their workplace. I raise my hand and asked how they could claim to be an equal opportunity employer when they are trying to hire for a quota that is not representative of the industry or their applicant pool. The speaker had the audacity to tell me that because there will never be hiring without bias, they wanted to make it the most " equal " workplace they could. I was so frustrated after that class. I paid hundreds of dollars for that time just to be told I was going to be unemployable because of my sex/race.

asmo1122 · 2020-07-02T12:23:10+00:00

There is a San Francisco company named Odetta.ai. They only hire females. All 104 employees are women. Check for yourselves on linkedin.

DMadan54 · 2020-07-02T08:30:06+00:00

It’s probably one of those companies that advertise for heir “70% female employees” and people are actually happy about it.

TheBanditKeith · 2020-07-02T10:19:17+00:00

I do wonder, at what point are they going to halt the aggressive push for women only opportunities? Surely there has been plenty of progress, right?

Tmomp · 2020-07-02T12:00:18+00:00

Institutionalized sexism.

ohdamnitsmilo · 2020-07-02T09:57:12+00:00

Almost all companies do this

Throwaway_Old_Guy · 2020-07-02T13:36:48+00:00

Is this not the same Company that allowed Safety Positions to go unfilled because they wanted Women specifically and did not get enough applicants?

As a result, accidents and incidents increased?

Or, am I thinking of another large mining Company in Australia?

FactsFinder49 · 2020-07-02T20:37:54+00:00

sorry... can someone provide me a link to their policies??... thanks

ShiningDraco · 2020-07-02T13:24:12+00:00

This was predicted

shazamishod · 2020-07-02T13:15:08+00:00

imagine being patronised daily just because of something you are not what you bring to the table.

The_Bad_Orange_Man · 2020-07-02T23:09:41+00:00

It’s mining. Be glad that they’re going for the blue collar jobs instead.

ILOVEITINARSE · 2020-07-02T23:19:37+00:00

Enough men die in the Mines anyway

LegendaryEmu1 · 2020-07-03T02:00:34+00:00

And because its mining, most of them will not ever be filled.

Like when they tried to gender quota the mining safety board, couldn't, so it dissolved.

mikesteane · 2020-07-03T06:36:48+00:00

Yes, "affirmative action" is discrimination in favour of groups to compensate for some other alleged bias. It is discrimination. Imagine if the advert had said "applications welcomed from white people."

_reddit_on_reddit_ · 2020-07-03T08:50:29+00:00

Fucking SICK

Fuckoffbumble · 2020-08-18T02:19:17+00:00

The idea of seeking employment in this age of open hiring discrimination against white men destroys any hope for the future of this country..

To anyone looking for work and just dumbfounded as lockdown measures continue and we are expected to find a jobs with zero encouragement bc of our race, there’s not much hope at all

Dnile1000BC · 2020-07-02T15:35:49+00:00

This is why BHP have constant safety issues.

Harbinger-One · 2020-07-02T16:15:35+00:00

Must be nice to be handed a position in supervision without having to work your way up through the company... you know, like learning all the necessary aspects of the higher position by spending significant time in the starting positions that actually do the work and get things done.

One of my trade-school teachers quit his previous job after 10 years because the regional supervisor position he was going for was given to a female that was brand new to both the company and the industry, then the real slap in the face came when they told him he had to train her and thats when he quit.

elebrin · 2020-07-02T16:59:03+00:00

And, since women can't do the work, they are going to mainly be hiring women for supervisor positions basically tell the guys when they aren't working hard enough.

John238 · 2020-07-02T16:54:38+00:00

Whole labour market seemingly moving away from meritocracy to a mad system of racial, gender quotaism.

RavynArcadia · 2020-07-02T16:55:24+00:00

Hey here is an idea: How about you hire the people fit for the job regardless of gender, color, sex preference, etc.?

I know that is a very hard concept but hey, maybe it will work.

equityjurisp · 2020-07-02T15:18:32+00:00

In Australia organisations can obtain exemptions from discrimination legislation for certain reasons, one of which I believe is Sex discrimination for the purposes of furthering equality. It is perfectly legal.

Another example of an exemption from discrimination laws (i can’t remember if it was furthering equality or something else) is a Gay bar in Melbourne called the Peel that sought and received the right to exclude females from its premises. They specifically applied for this exemption after they were getting sick of the number of hens parties coming in and treating the patrons like their own personal strippers.

thefudmaster · 2020-07-02T18:55:52+00:00

Equality of opportunity is all we can provide. Equality of outcomes is unrealistic and harmful. I’ve been watching a lot of Dr. Thomas Sowell lately and he hits the nail on the head.

If you manipulate statistics, a wage gap exists between men and women. As a business owner, if I could hire equally capable women for the same job at pennies on the dollar, I would. However, this is not, nor has it ever been the case.

The largest factor at play is women leaving the work force and raising children. The women who choose to stay in the workforce are typically paid more than their male counterparts per capita.

All this to say that if one works har, and attains education to perform a particular function, they usually make more. We have choices in life and some of those affect the outcomes we have.

grotness · 2020-07-02T14:14:23+00:00

Nothing wrong with the right amount of affirmative in the right places. It's the logical and pragmatic thing to do.

If you're legit complaining at the idea of having more women in camp ya got rocks in your head. Probably the only thing in existence that could possibly make the industry more bearable

nunyour_business · 2020-07-02T12:57:29+00:00

You guys really need to cop on and realise the difference between equality vs equity and before anyone says shit YES I'm a man

simon15042003 · 2020-07-02T10:36:07+00:00

I feel like this has almost become a catch-22. You guys often complain that men always do the most dangerous jobs, and then you complain when companies try to get more women into these kinds of fields. How could you win in this scenario?

Title	World's largest mining company openly discriminating against men in recruitment
Author	Ja50n0
Upvotes	1580
Comments	153
Date	July 2, 2020 4:44 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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