Height Vs Looks Vs Muscle

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-07-21T10:37:27+00:00

You cannot compartmentalise attraction like that. No one goes "Oh ok, height 7/10, face 2/10, muscle 4/10, dick 7/10 final score 6/10". Don't dwell in thoughts like that because you are going nowhere. Why? Because each person will have different standards. Some girls will be up for height, some girls will like chubby dudes, some girls will prefer someone intelligent and put looks as second priority. Most women I know are even put off by excessive amounts of muscle and are just more attractive to a slim, all around healthy looking and balanced person.

You can see in the answers in this thread that everyone is giving a completely different answer because there is no clear answer.

reluctantly_red · 2019-07-21T15:15:07+00:00

If girls are noticing you at the pool you're a good looking guy -- stop over thinking.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-07-21T13:43:28+00:00

Face face face face face

FlavFal · 2019-07-21T12:21:44+00:00

face > height > muscles

S3LF-IMPROV3M3NT · 2019-07-21T07:48:43+00:00

Height is the most important. Then it's looks. Then it's muscle. I don't know specific percentages but I'd estimate Height 45%, Looks (I assume you mean face) 35%, Muscle 20%.

wtknight · 2019-07-21T13:20:32+00:00

Based on responses I've read from women here, face seems to be most important. I myself am nothing in the height or muscle department, but have an okay looking face, and I have had no problem attracting other average looking women, although I've never attracted a woman who was taller than me (I'm 5'8").

RedPillMissionary · 2019-07-22T04:38:30+00:00

Hey king, if youre tall, you should put it to work, meaning be confident, fear nothing, and approach like a madman. Youll be forgiven as the tall athletic dude who approached them, not the average face dude. All the women saying “face” would love to have a tall, muscular man smile and make conversation with them in the grocery store. Remember Freud said you can only trust women to answer a question in the way that reflects how they would like to perceive themselves...

TrueReligionGenes · 2019-07-22T18:01:17+00:00

At 6'3 , your face just can't be a dealbreaker. Almost anything will do face-wise with that height.

While it is true that face is the most important, it generally means you cant have a legit ugly face, which dooms you no matter what. As you approach better height (6'1"+) and frame (bone size), then your facial attractiveness has much more wiggle room.

For example, a 5'10 small framed guy with an 8/10 face is usually less viscerally attractive than a 6'3 guy with an average face. Esepcially if they are standing next to each other, then the woman evaluating will clearly see the difference in sexual dimorphism between the two. The people that scream face is everything dont understand the relative importance of height and frame in total perceived masculinity.

To get the hottest of the hot though and have women literally staring at you, you need it all, very little margin for error. That is why truly elite looking males are rare, female sexuality is for the most part very unforgiving.

strangelovesglasses · 2019-07-21T07:48:17+00:00

height by far

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SupremeMystique · 2019-07-21T07:49:52+00:00

It depends

It's essentially if-then statements.

If you're under 6 ft, height is definitely number one, followed by looks, followed by muscle.

If you're over 6 ft, looks is number one, followed by muscle, followed by height.

Once you make that 6 ft cutoff, you're good.

pancakeinacup · 2019-07-21T10:08:15+00:00

All of them are important but so are non-physical factors. It’s more of a total package thing for me personally. If I have to pick one as most important I would pick looks or facial appearance, but that’s hard to quantify.

Reason for my answer: I have dated guys from 5’5”- 6’7” and can say height wasn’t nearly as important as people make it out to be. Maybe only in initial attraction, but that fades quickly if he is an ass. Most of them were average build but there were a couple more muscular and one more “doughy”. But they were all had fairly attractive faces (to me).

DocNMarty · 2019-07-21T13:47:47+00:00

This is like asking a guy weight, looks, or figure. Everyone has their own preferences, and many guys have multiple combinations of preferences (ex. a guy may like petite, nerdy girls a bit on the lanky side but may also like full-figured, "done-up, ready for the club" girls on the heavier side).

What's even more confusing is that certain combinations may be a hard "no" for certain people. The guy in the previous example may not be attracted to chubby, nerdy girls or lanky, done-up girls.

whichbladeN · 2019-07-21T17:41:59+00:00

Looks.

There's simply a threshold for height. The only qualifier you need is not to be freakishly short. Less than 5'5'' and now you seem malnurished and stunted.

I'd much rather date a pretty face at 5'5'' than a 6'0'' pock-marked big nose neanderthal.

Nodoxxintoxin · 2019-07-22T02:30:36+00:00

face>not fat>height>muscle

87AudreyHorne · 2019-07-21T10:24:24+00:00

Looks 100%

Height is very important to many women. For me personally its not that important although too short and too tall isnt great but I prefer average height, however I can't deny that many make this a big deal.

Height can damage good looks but it wont improve bar ones.

Muscle - zero importance and can even be a turn off to MANY girls. Mainly only other men think mucles are atteactive

MasonMan1234 · 2019-07-21T16:04:09+00:00

Height>Face>>>>>Muscle

OP also seems like he's humble bragging

Ultramegasaurus · 2019-07-21T12:09:40+00:00

Muscles are an attractiveness amplifier, especially for height. The taller you are, the better their appeal. Height and muscles synergize so well due to people associating tallness with strength and fighting ability.

The reverse case is true as well. If you are too short and/or ugly, muscles might even have a detrimental effect, e.g. being accused of being compensating, tryhard, scary etc.

ElderlyAlder · 2019-07-21T15:23:02+00:00

Within reasonable bounds, looks > height >>>>>>>> muscle. I'd rather have a good-looking guy who's average height than a tall guy with a meh face, and I don't really care about muscles at all. I care about frame though. Broad shoulders get you farther than being jacked.

sparksjoy · 2019-07-21T09:18:36+00:00

Just curious, what makes you think you're considered average? Are you not getting as much interest from women as you would like?

In any case, you have to realize that you can't assess looks in a vacuum. What's your competition like? Do you live in an area where men with the right height, looks, and muscle are a dime a dozen? If so comparatively speaking muscle and height would be less impressive than it is in, say, a place where most men are out of shape.

For example, college campuses are often harder because you have an overabundance of hot athletes for the girls to choose from. Out in the "real world" the competition changes, or so I've heard.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2019-07-21T14:23:13+00:00

I personally like muscle and face. Height only a smidge.

katymarx · 2019-07-21T17:21:51+00:00

Face - muscle - height. Caveat emptor- still must be above xx height to ride.

blackedoutfast · 2019-07-22T02:35:23+00:00

it varies from one girl to the next. i mean, obviously they would all prefer a guy with a great face AND great body AND tall. but if you're imperfect in some areas but good in others, different girls will weigh those things differently.

there's no way to predict if any particular girl is going to really dig you or be completely disgusted by you. so there's no real reason to even worry about it. if you see an attractive chick, just approach and make a move. she'll either say yes or no.

Scrupulous-Monster · 2019-07-22T02:38:38+00:00

Muscles don't matter much. Don't lift to get women, lift to have a hobby.

TooManyThots · 2019-07-22T04:44:20+00:00

It's a combination of all 3. All are important, however no category can compensate for your lack in one or another.

ItsOverBoyosLDAR · 2019-07-22T07:35:44+00:00

Facial aesthetics > race > height > muscle

I am muscular but lost the genetic lottery when it comes to the other things. I have 2/10 facial aesthetics, mixed race and I am a manlet. Needless to say, I am completely invisible to women. Muscles in a vacuum don't mean jackshit. I can't compete with fat blobs and non-lifting skinny fat phaggots just because they are aryan and there are no mixed race women of the same or similar mix where I live.

embarrassed_hermit18 · 2019-07-22T21:39:31+00:00

"Dace" smh

_lexxxi_98 · 2019-07-25T15:58:52+00:00

I overall think muscle would be the go to pick. I think the height thing is so over rated. It's annoying when guys post their height on Tinder. I think it would be the equivalent if girls posted their weight or something of the sort.

Triadfamilyties · 2019-07-26T06:10:32+00:00

Depends on the girl. Everyone has their own specific inner metric for what they find attractive. One girl might be staring at your stomach, another at your forearms, and the third at your face. Just like asking a guy if he's a boobs or ass man, most people have some kinda preference either way. I'm a tall chubby dude with a nice beard and I literally have women compliment the beard, specifically. I'm not cut but I am broad and lumberjacky and rugged seems to be "in" in certain circles.

-TheGreasyPole- · 2019-07-21T07:23:15+00:00

TL:DR; You can't split it into percentages the way you are suggesting, and there are many more factors than these three.

You can't split it into percentages because that assumes there is a 100% attractive and these three things are components of it. There is no 100% attractive.

There is only a "bar" to get past for any individual girl, with the higher you are over the "bar" the more attractive you are.

Perhaps a girls bar is at 100, and another is at 300. If you're 500 attractive you'll be attractive to both, but Brad Pitt might be at 1,000 and so be more attractive than you to both.

Maybe one guys makes up his "score" with looks, muscles (and other things) but he's short.... and another guy makes his up with muscles and height, but his looks don't contribute much.

It's just a lot more complicated than your making out, and those other factors are also important contributing factors for women (status, humour/wit, leadership, social proof, pre-selection, etc, etc). In your example above pre-selection (the fact that girls fancy the guys they can see the other girls fancy) was probably a big contributing factor with the "blushing at your attractiveness" being essentially contagious as the girls all realised the other girls found you attractive, and so found you more attractive themselves.

Anyway, if you want a more in depth going over of the factors of attractiveness you could have a look at the alpha traits list or this post where I divide up "looks" and "personality" in a more granular way.

HottentotGenius · 2019-07-21T11:42:31+00:00

In terms of importance from most to least :

Height
Attractiveness (Looks)
Build (Muscularity)

I think most girls can appreciate a guy in good shape but they generally don't want an overly ripped mutant either. A notable exception is female gym rats.

This also doesn't take into account the other factors that come together to make a guy attractive to each individual woman's preferences ie intellect, social skills, swagger, sense of humor, talents etc

Five_Decades · 2019-07-21T20:52:04+00:00

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/?utm_term=.c2c3107d90f5

Supposedly a V shaped torso is more important than height.

As a tall male, I haven't noticed much benefit from height alone when I'm overweight. But when I'm thinner and have a V shaped torso, women's response to me is much stronger.

hello23455 · 2019-07-21T06:44:32+00:00

Or you could answer in percentages like: male attractiveness is 25% height 50% looks and 25% muscle

Title	Height Vs Looks Vs Muscle
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