There is nothing better than being an average man

ThisBoringLife · 2023-06-30T11:53:42+00:00

See, all that stuff you say sounds nice with some inspirational music and a background of the skies clearing up, but the truth is people overall care more about the now than they do the process.

People don't give a damn about cumulative days, weeks, and years athletes put into training for their sport. They care about their performance when the game is on.

The Forbes list of Top 10 richest people doesn't care about one's come up, just where they are when that list is made.

For dating, people don't care if you were a stuttering mess before, just that you're charismatic and attractive now.

eefr · 2023-06-30T11:43:57+00:00

I'm not a man, but all else being equal, I'm pretty sure it's nicer to be born rich.

SecretAccount111191 · 2023-06-30T11:32:05+00:00

Good try, but I'm not convinced

El_Don_94 · 2023-06-30T11:59:02+00:00

There is, being an above average man. What a dumb post!

Many young men in here keep arguing about how hard dating is as an average man, debating women on who has it worse. Why has victimhood has become such a virtue? You know it is harder for you, but what will their acknowledgement give you? It will certainly not give the sex and relationships you want.

So suddenly stating facts isn't stating facts? It's victimhood. WTF. No one said that it would give anything other than women actually showing that they accept the truth without buts, what abouts, or denial.

Being an adult means accepting certain realities and the fact that they won't change over your lifetime. Attraction is superficial for men and women. But like most species women have more standards over the board. That doesn't make them bad. They are just different. Is the peahen enforcing misogynistic beauty standards by picking peacocks with the most glorious feathers?

Did anyone say they were bad? Why did you type all this out? What annoys me specifically is women saying that they're attracted to money. Make your own damn money. You're not entitled to money. Women here say that that's a minority, if so, great!

As an average man you are lacking a lot, but that means you have more to improve on. Being average isn't great because the state of being average is great, but because you can choose not to stay average. Things come more naturally to women and to the few very attractive men in dating, which sounds great but they are pretty much born being desired and as an average guy you have the opportunity of experiencing both worlds and more experiences make a richer life. Rejections may be harsh, but can also be lessons of humility. You will fail more often than others, but those failures could become great stories.

Looking attractive is great, but becoming attractive is greater. Being charismatic ia great, becoming charismatic is greater. Being on top of the social dominance hierarchy is great, but rising to the top is greater. And honestly running through is a cooler aesthetic than being ran through lol.

Don't envy women or the 6'5" tech billionaire Gigachad vampire CEO. Being an average men is much better..potentially.

This is all stupid. You wouldn't say to a poor person, "it's great to be poor as you have the potential to be wealthy."

Bring interesting posts or why else bother?

Stunning_Thing4208 · 2023-06-30T12:00:27+00:00

Nah. People at the top of the hierarchy do better.

Or at least, they have options.

Preme2 · 2023-06-30T12:21:13+00:00

Based on this logic, being average isn’t great, being at the very bottom is. Nowhere to go but up.

VoltairesBarista · 2023-06-30T11:40:19+00:00

Fantastic honestly

RedBullfrog · 2023-06-30T11:57:01+00:00

It’s like those damn computer games. It’s easy to level up in the beginning but damn hard once you reach a high level.

DerayRevan · 2023-06-30T12:04:53+00:00

OP the whole point of being average IS YOU STAY AVERAGE

If your born middle class which is considered average not rich but also not poor, your gonna end up middle class AGAIN

UneastAji · 2023-06-30T11:42:51+00:00

but what will their acknowledgement give you?

If you don't debunk feminism and women's pathological victimhood, society will be reshaped to accommodate to that and to screw you over. We live in a society where women can earn their money and get a lot of money from the government and from other men, but still successfully push ideas like "period products should be free" or that women should have advantage during hiring processes or acceptation in colleges (which is already the case). And all these things further lower men's sexual and marital value to women, they'll keep devaluing men and then turn around and ask what men are useful at, and push more reforms to burry and enslave men.

You're fine with being a second class citizen? Not me, I'm not a doormat.

Being an adult means accepting certain realities as you said. And one of them is you're not supposed to give up and not fight back.

As an average man you are lacking a lot, but that means you have more to improve on [...]

Ok so this is just one of these linkedin post "if I won loto I'd refuse the money and build my wealth myself!". Opinion discarded.

Most people will stay in the socioeconomic they're born with. Height can't be enhanced. Charisma is linked to your looks and you can't improve beyond your sometimes very limited potential. Just pretending it isn't the case won't make the reality different. Again, being an adult means accepting certain realities and the fact that they won't change over your lifetime, like your height or wealth.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-06-30T18:24:21+00:00

Average is not attractive. Being attractive is attractive. Being an attractive guy is actually better than being an attractive girl in my opinion. Even if you have less options, your options are higher quality. Your shelf life is also longer provided you lucked out genetically and aren't balding/overweight/wrinkly. So no being an average man is not the pinnacle of having a good life. People at the top are living in a different universe.

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Unnecessary-Training · 2023-06-30T12:08:31+00:00

This sub is full of guys who are simply too lazy to do anything except whine. Your good advice will be wasted here.

wtknight · 2023-06-30T12:12:21+00:00

As an average man who did eventually succeed, I’m going to have to disagree with this. It’s much more satisfying to be naturally good at something.

Lovers691 · 2023-06-30T12:17:45+00:00

Is the peahen enforcing misogynistic beauty standards by picking peacocks with the most glorious feathers?

You mean misandrist right? Cuz misogyny is female hating and peacocks are males. Anyways, you post is working on the assumption that being an average male means you can level up to a lot. The truth is if you are born an average male you can only improve yourself by 1-1.5 points in terms of looks at most same apples to wealth if you are born middle class you can rise to upper middle class or be in the lower rank of upper class through hard and smart work but you will most likely never reach true upper class unless you weren’t really average. Honestly if it was true that rising from the bottom is better than already being at the top then the Rothschilds would have sold all their wealth by now.

thewhiteknight17 · 2023-06-30T12:32:36+00:00

It’s like racing against a Ferrari with a Ford Focus. Do what you want, put a V8 in your Focus, you aint catching the Ferrari.

abaxeron · 2023-06-30T13:29:06+00:00

what will their acknowledgement give you?

Almost any public discussion of a topic is done for the benefit of the audience. If I had a goal to convince someone of something personally, I'd do it in private messages/chats. If out of 100 thousand subscribers to this sub, one woman looks at the facts and considers maybe treating men a little bit less like an enemy to defeat and humiliate, a machine to use and discard, or a resource to extract and consume, I'll consider it a win.

It will certainly not give the sex and relationships you want.

I already have sex and relationship. My problem with women is not that none of them like me. It's that those that don't like me, that rejected me, that never supported me at my lowest point or gave birth to my children, still enjoy the benefits provided with my tax money.

That doesn't make them bad. They are just different.

What makes them bad is promoting nonsensical idea that they are exactly the same as men, even better, bending policies and shattering traditions that question this idea, and when it all predictably goes tits up, forcing men to absorb the costs.

Is the peahen enforcing misogynistic beauty standards by picking peacocks with the most glorious feathers?

False equivalence. Peahens don't vote.

If being superficial, shallow, and picky was all women did, no-one ever would have had a problem with them.

When at the same time they also somehow manage to abort a small nation every year and demand men pay for it... it's an entirely different story.

you can choose not to stay average

Someone hasn't refreshed their knowledge of twin studies in a while.

as an average guy you have the opportunity of experiencing both worlds and more experiences make a richer life

An exceptionally attractive woman can realistically slash the attention she receives almost to the level of an average man if she stops making herself look like a hybrid between a prostitute and a clown, and starts looking like an actual member of the working class. I've had many women here saying that "they tried" and it didn't work. Spare me the assumption that attractive women totally cannot make themselves stand out less in the crowd, but average men totally can make themselves stand out more.

Rejections may be harsh, but can also be lessons of humility. You will fail more often than others, but those failures could become great stories.

"I flushed a chunk of my life down the drain investing into a kid and a woman who tricked me into believing the kid was mine." Great story. Affecting non-fathers of estimated 1 in 27 kids. Your false assumption here is that women are absolutely, 100% harmless, and thus, whatever harm for a man comes from being rejected, is self-inflicted.

This assumption is false.

ICtruthcity · 2023-06-30T13:36:15+00:00

Being average in a sexually degen, hypersexual, obese, unhealthy society means you're the baseline epitome of those things.

So I'll pass.

TheGreatBeefSupreme · 2023-06-30T13:36:30+00:00

It’s better to be above average in positive qualities than it is to be average.

Critical_Lettuce2899 · 2023-06-30T14:11:58+00:00

Man is so blue pilled, his takes no longer make sense

BillyPilgrim75 · 2023-06-30T15:35:23+00:00

This seems like a long way to go to arrive at amor fati. It is wise for anyone, man, woman or child, to embrace their circumstances. I just can't see that mildly crappy dating circumstances are "better" than mildly good circumstances. If I were a young man right now I'd rather be kinda well off rather than kinda not so well off, and find other ways to build my character.

Pilling_it · 2023-06-30T16:06:35+00:00

There's value in effort for yourself, but that's just rationalizing your situation. And I'm usually the uplifting one in my friend group.

Getting potential value and life lessons, thus outcomes potentially better compared to the attractive ones that glide through life ? Sure, even if there's a lot of if in that sentence. Saying there's nothing better ? It's a reach.

That's like saying there's nothing better than to not get pretty privilege. And it gets even funnier if you replace attractiveness with being born into money.

babazuki · 2023-06-30T20:07:18+00:00

Right, no one is entitled to anything except to make their own decisions and voice their opinions.

Censorship does nothing to help people understand their society and the environment around them. The suppression of information can lead to distorted world views and frustration. When someone has a revelation and feel they were lied to their whole life, they feel they need to express what they've learned to correct for the misinformation floating around society. That's why we have these Pill communities. It's for people to discuss suppressed truths they feel should be expressed.

The problem is that you just told men to stop talking and to start working. You accused them of expressing victimhood and wanting pity just for talking about their situation in the dating world.

If a man can't simply say that dating is hard, we can't move on to more conversations. We can't discuss why it's the man's responsibility to improve and what he wants in a partner if he puts in all that effort. The man can't say that he prefers women that are young and don't sleep around and focus on him and his family instead of her career. He can't say that women's careers are what are causing them to raise their standards, but at the same time it doesn't nothing to improve her attractiveness or make her a better partner and she really doesn't deserve the man she's hoping for because he has tons of options and doesn't want her.

If you say these things, you receive the same response. You're complaining, you're whining, you're a misogynist, incel, you don't speak for all men, you're insecure, you're a predator, you want to take away women's rights, you just want to be a victim.

If you stop the man at step one, no one will learn anything from each other. There will continue to be misinformation. People will think they're doing the right thing when they're completely off the mark.

HungryNRaging · 2023-06-30T22:46:31+00:00

Your Ted talk sucks

Substantial_Video560 · 2023-07-01T09:20:58+00:00

One of the advantages of being an average/ugly man is you can easily disappear into the background and be left alone which is a positive thing for me. Invisibility! 😎

Title	There is nothing better than being an average man
Author	ratboi34
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Date	June 30, 2023 11:18 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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