Why do women get to abdicate their rights through abortion or adoption but men are on the hook financially for 18 years?
You're not entitled to anything from anyone else, and this sexist law needs to go. If the mother can't afford to take care of the child, the father should be in charge of the situation, not the state.
They absolutely do not deserve the income of their father, just because their mother wants to live elsewhere.
No one deserves someone else's income.
If they raised the child together, and did so in the bare minimum of money, that wouldn't be seen as wrong. You don't deserve to be rich, especially if you'd only be so because if a single parent.
If they think the father's money is that important, than the child should be with the father.
Don't even get me started on the idea that a money can choose to have a child, the man can choose to not want one, but they you can legally strip them of percentages if their income they literally can't afford, and far far more than any child needs. An absolutely disgusting and sexist system, with no basis in the reality of child rearing.
The idea that a women's body is her own for a few months, before we decide the fetus is too old for her to have rights anymore, but that a man's body isn't his for 18 years, and is tied to an unreasonable percentage of his income, is insane.
Child support, if it should even exist at all (I don't really believe it should, and if it does, should be directly tired to rights over the child's life. No money, no rights. No rights, no money.) It should be a minimum support, with a specific reason for being set at that level, and should absolutely not be enough for the other parent (mother, let's be honest and real) to live a good life off of while casually taking care of the child that would do just fine in their income, or the income of her new family.
It doesn't matter how rich the father is. If you can't feed, house and cloth a child with 52 thousand dollars a year then it makes much more sense for the father to assume custody of the child.
On 52K a year, you could have a nice apartment in peaceful neighborhood, eat as much as you wanted and go out on the weekends and still NEVER HAVE TO GO TO WORK.
Maybe he was a piece of shit to her and everyone else and her way of getting back at him was to make a large child support claim. We know a lot about future and nothing about this woman, can't really claim that she is any type of way.
Right, that guys word means nothing. But he's one guy saying future is a piece of shit while everyone else in this thread is saying the woman is a piece of shit... But nobody knows anything...
It's possible this woman was dumb enough to hatch this scheme of having future's baby and cashing in, but it's probably more likely that they were in a relationship and he couldn't stay loyal for shit and she got fed up and wanted custody and at least give that child as good a life as possible.
Irreverent of him being rich or not. I don't know any regular child that needs more than $1,000 a month to get by. I doubt all 1k will be used towards the kid every month.
You're telling me if you were rich and had to pay child support, that you would want to pay more than 1000 simply because you're rich?
I feel like the only answer I'll get is "I wouldn't be in a situation where I would be paying that anyway" or even "I'm a man, of course I'm going to pay what I can take to care of my child."
Why would that absolutely ever be a good or reasonably thing.
The father's life shouldn't be stripped away and handed to a mother, just because she decides she wants a kid, and decides she doesn't want to raise it with said man.
She can go find another man if she needs or wants that, or she can, you know, raise the child on her own.
His income is his body. His body, his rights. Imagine thinking abortion is okay, but holding a man to absolutely unreasonable payments for 18 years is okay.
I would want to, because it's my child dude... it's not about me or my ex at that point. I know you pretty much said that in the last part of your comment but seriously the fuck. Toxic as hell.
It's not outlandish to assume someone is making something up on the internet. I'm not even gonna give you the dignity of reading past that first asinine sentence.
Woman has to work,man needs to fund <1500 or 1500 till she gets a job and kid is 5 years old.Then he should cut it down to 900,for kids basic needs until he is 5-12 years old.52k is a scam and 1500 would be max for childs monthly in my country.51k is going for new lingeries for another man another day,new lipsticks and stuff...I feel so fucking weird right now.
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Eh you're still paying about the same, just not getting anything out of it.
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Sure, keeping telling yourself that. Let me know what your hospital bills are like when you're dying from cancer.
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letting a millionaire cum in you is not a valid way to become a millionaire.
Child support should be based on the cost of raising a child, not the earning potential of the father.
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Not too confusing. Fuck both of them and focus on the child. Children aren't a fucking weapon to brandish at a cum dispensor/receptacle.
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In the US child support is based on the needs of the child, not the noncustodial parent’s ability to pay.
Spousal support on the other hand does factor in stuff like salary of each spouse.
At least that’s what bar prep tells me.
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Why do women get to abdicate their rights through abortion or adoption but men are on the hook financially for 18 years?
You're not entitled to anything from anyone else, and this sexist law needs to go. If the mother can't afford to take care of the child, the father should be in charge of the situation, not the state.
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So you are saying she deserve 600 grand a year. Cmon
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They absolutely do not deserve the income of their father, just because their mother wants to live elsewhere.
No one deserves someone else's income.
If they raised the child together, and did so in the bare minimum of money, that wouldn't be seen as wrong. You don't deserve to be rich, especially if you'd only be so because if a single parent.
If they think the father's money is that important, than the child should be with the father.
Don't even get me started on the idea that a money can choose to have a child, the man can choose to not want one, but they you can legally strip them of percentages if their income they literally can't afford, and far far more than any child needs. An absolutely disgusting and sexist system, with no basis in the reality of child rearing.
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The idea that a women's body is her own for a few months, before we decide the fetus is too old for her to have rights anymore, but that a man's body isn't his for 18 years, and is tied to an unreasonable percentage of his income, is insane.
Child support, if it should even exist at all (I don't really believe it should, and if it does, should be directly tired to rights over the child's life. No money, no rights. No rights, no money.) It should be a minimum support, with a specific reason for being set at that level, and should absolutely not be enough for the other parent (mother, let's be honest and real) to live a good life off of while casually taking care of the child that would do just fine in their income, or the income of her new family.
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[–]beachbody197137 points [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link
Is “Future” a guy?? Wtf
Edit: I was just about to add “or a rapper” hahaha. Thanks guys.
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Lol you’re welcome. you must be white and 48 like me 🤣
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Yes you have. Pretending to be ignorant is not charming or suave.
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It doesn't matter how rich the father is. If you can't feed, house and cloth a child with 52 thousand dollars a year then it makes much more sense for the father to assume custody of the child.
On 52K a year, you could have a nice apartment in peaceful neighborhood, eat as much as you wanted and go out on the weekends and still NEVER HAVE TO GO TO WORK.
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What? You think you need 52K a month to pay for rent, groceries, movies and the occasional beer out?
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[+]BearAnt-2 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he was a piece of shit to her and everyone else and her way of getting back at him was to make a large child support claim. We know a lot about future and nothing about this woman, can't really claim that she is any type of way.
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Right, that guys word means nothing. But he's one guy saying future is a piece of shit while everyone else in this thread is saying the woman is a piece of shit... But nobody knows anything...
It's possible this woman was dumb enough to hatch this scheme of having future's baby and cashing in, but it's probably more likely that they were in a relationship and he couldn't stay loyal for shit and she got fed up and wanted custody and at least give that child as good a life as possible.
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Hell of a lot less biased probabilities that most of these other clowns are saying. At least I admit I don't know.
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$1,000 is a great amount to raise a kid each month.
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Irreverent of him being rich or not. I don't know any regular child that needs more than $1,000 a month to get by. I doubt all 1k will be used towards the kid every month.
You're telling me if you were rich and had to pay child support, that you would want to pay more than 1000 simply because you're rich?
I feel like the only answer I'll get is "I wouldn't be in a situation where I would be paying that anyway" or even "I'm a man, of course I'm going to pay what I can take to care of my child."
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Why would that absolutely ever be a good or reasonably thing.
The father's life shouldn't be stripped away and handed to a mother, just because she decides she wants a kid, and decides she doesn't want to raise it with said man.
She can go find another man if she needs or wants that, or she can, you know, raise the child on her own.
His income is his body. His body, his rights. Imagine thinking abortion is okay, but holding a man to absolutely unreasonable payments for 18 years is okay.
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I would want to, because it's my child dude... it's not about me or my ex at that point. I know you pretty much said that in the last part of your comment but seriously the fuck. Toxic as hell.
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He can pay for things for the child.
If he has rights, and time allowed to see the child, he can and will pay for them.
Why does the mother need money in her account. Does she not have a job?
What you're saying, and what you're advocating for, are not the same thing.
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you can "lol" all the way to the god damn welfare office with your busted shit. fuck off ho
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Prove it. Redditors are habitual liars.
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Okay liar.
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Prove what, retard?
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I'm not the one making outlandish claims with 0 evidence. That's sometbing liars on reddit do so why would I prove an observation?
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It's not outlandish to assume someone is making something up on the internet. I'm not even gonna give you the dignity of reading past that first asinine sentence.
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[–]shibainusaregood1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Woman has to work,man needs to fund <1500 or 1500 till she gets a job and kid is 5 years old.Then he should cut it down to 900,for kids basic needs until he is 5-12 years old.52k is a scam and 1500 would be max for childs monthly in my country.51k is going for new lingeries for another man another day,new lipsticks and stuff...I feel so fucking weird right now.
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Still lot,isnt it?You are right though.Ridiculous
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Future?
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