Women's March

MentORPHEUS · 2017-01-24T00:37:19+00:00

What are your views on the occurrence

Sign of a healthy Democracy and engaged electorate. Marching peacefully for a cause important to you is great, especially in this age of apathy and emoting-without-voting. Contrast this to the idiots rioting and those who burned a limousine.

and the message of the women's march?

Trump made many anti Roe v Wade statements during his campaign, then chose Mike Pence as his running mate. The women marching in Washington took note. Did you?

I predict there will be much buyer's remorse among current Trump fans.

brackbunduru · 2017-01-24T02:17:57+00:00

Feminism disgusts me.
Trump is not going to take away women's rights and never suggested he would, so they look very stupid for marching in response to his inauguration.
Calling Trump a sexist for saying the word "pussy" is ridiculous (context!!) and I immediately lose respect for anyone who brings it up in a serious way.

Jayms · 2017-01-24T13:25:25+00:00

I'm not really sure what they were marching for either. I don't think Trump hates women or is going to take away any rights. As far as funding for abortions and contraception, I don't think taxpayers should be forced to pay for these things. If you choose to have one, that is your decision and you should pay for it, same with plastic surgery, for example.

I heard about several women attacking other women too, one lit a Trump-supporting woman's hair on fire. That is so hypocritical to say women should unite and then to attack another woman who doesn't agree. And the speeches by the celebrities who talked about using violence against the President because they don't agree with him is, IMO, immature.

As a woman, I don't identify with those who were marching. I also wouldn't want to be seen in public with a vagina on my head and don't think that is very dignified, but that's just me. Overall, I am inclined to believe these women have been manipulated into marching and are being used for more sinister purposes that have not yet come to light.

NoFaceNoPlace · 2017-01-24T14:27:17+00:00

I did not go because I felt it would just be a huge circle jerk.

There were a lot of conflicting signs "women deserve as many rights as guns" when guns don't have more rights than women.

There was a lot of "you're still not equal" arguments because we have to "convince a judge we were raped" and I'm like uh duh. Of course you do. And that we get paid less when that is false except for few exceptions (I.e. Sports). Then a lot of women pulling feminists from the past and trying to claim they are being just as amazing as them when the feminists of the past actually did things.

If I posted any of this I would be told to "check my privilege" because if I don't agree with something it immediately means I'm blinded by privilege.

Cardiscappa · 2017-01-23T22:26:33+00:00

What exactly where they marching for?

electrokiwi · 2017-01-24T08:15:58+00:00

I marched, and so did my captain. I'll tell you why: Trump will repeal ACA which will take away anti gender discriminatory insurance policies, and I believe healthcare in wealthy nations should be a right. Trump was accused of sexual assault by multiple women and I believe them. Trump has already worked to defund clinics offering abortions, and I believe in right to choose, as well as the availability of the other health resources these clinics offer women. Ethically, I think women's health should be considered important. Economically, preventative treatments and family planning save the tax payer. And my amazing captain supports me in my political views, although he is a little less left. We have healthy discussions on feminism, and the parts we both think are good and the parts we find detrimental. He found the march interesting. We enjoyed the signs. He doesn't seem threatened at all by my beliefs because he understands that my dedication to him as his woman is separate from my politics. edit: a letter

vajeni · 2017-01-24T00:40:58+00:00

Annoyed. I am not a victim, don't make me out to be one.

yakuzaou · 2017-01-23T22:54:33+00:00

From what I could gather the march was primarily about reproductive rights/birth control? I get that those things are important to most women (including myself), but:

1) the pill doesn't need to be free, use a condom 2) Trump doesn't care about abortion; he many times said leave it to the states. Abortions also aren't a right, nor is easy access to them. If a woman wants an abortion, I have no qualms with that, but what I do have a problem with is demanding that there should be more clinics that offer abortions AND that those abortions should be affordable (aka free).

Besides that, the march organizers were fighting amongst themselves about intersectionality, which I find completely hilarious. Also wage gap, muh vagina, but don't objectify muh vagina, patriarchy, #slutshaming, and all that other jazz is apparently very important stuff. The only thing I didn't see was rape culture signs, which surprises me.

BanachTarskiParadox · 2017-01-24T04:22:44+00:00

It seemed a bit pointless to me. A lot of it was protesting Trump (who I do think has expressed some pretty disgusting views of women), but that's a complete waste of time after an inauguration. I thought it was pretty strange that I know far more women who joined their local march than who canvassed before the election.

I do think free contraception is probably good economic policy, as it's much cheaper for the government than a child, particularly one born to the sort of mother to whom free contraception makes a significant difference.

FleetingWish · 2017-01-24T01:01:33+00:00

I still don't understand what it was about, even after trying to understand. I tend to prefer to understand people's points of views, even if I don't agree with him. The best I can do is say it was really about people being mad about Trump being elected, and being afraid of what he might do.

Here is their mission statement from their website:

The rhetoric of the past election cycle has insulted, demonized, and threatened many of us - immigrants of all statuses, Muslims and those of diverse religious faiths, people who identify as LGBTQIA, Native people, Black and Brown people, people with disabilities, survivors of sexual assault - and our communities are hurting and scared. We are confronted with the question of how to move forward in the face of national and international concern and fear.

In the spirit of democracy and honoring the champions of human rights, dignity, and justice who have come before us, we join in diversity to show our presence in numbers too great to ignore. The Women’s March on Washington will send a bold message to our new government on their first day in office, and to the world that women's rights are human rights. We stand together, recognizing that defending the most marginalized among us is defending all of us.

We support the advocacy and resistance movements that reflect our multiple and intersecting identities. We call on all defenders of human rights to join us. This march is the first step towards unifying our communities, grounded in new relationships, to create change from the grassroots level up. We will not rest until women have parity and equity at all levels of leadership in society. We work peacefully while recognizing there is no true peace without justice and equity for all.

The bolded part is my highlight. To the best of my understanding that was what the rally was about. To remind Trump, that there are many women (Or "marginalized" people? Can't really tell, it says it's for everyone in the mission statement, but it's called a women's march, with pink beanies.) who will be mad if he makes more conservative policy changes.

SouthernAthena · 2017-01-24T01:57:56+00:00

I am supremely indifferent. I don't think it was necessary, I wasn't offended by it, nothing. I didn't even know what they were marching for. I even asked on my Facebook what people were representing since I know many people who participated. I got many answers, and the vision only got more fragmented the more people who responded.

I guess I am slightly frustrated that this happened since I think feminism needs to die a swift death, and a lot of the things they are protesting are based on false statistics (1 in 4 rape stats, the gender wage gap). On the other hand, I don't think they will accomplish much, so no big deal.

CleburnCO · 2017-01-24T01:15:46+00:00

It seems ironic, that they are marching in a country where women actually are equal...when there are so many countries where women are treated like cattle. Yet, one of their primary organizers supports Sharia and similar, which is the exact opposite of empowering for women. Where is the march for the women that had her rape livestreamed on facebook last week in Sweeden? Where is the march through the no go sections of Paris, London, and similar? Women are not safe in those places. Women are abused and have few rights there...yet no march? Why is that?

Willow-girl · 2017-01-24T14:26:25+00:00

Some of the protesters' signs that I saw in the news coverage were pretty appalling. (Like, a drawing of a menstruating vagina? Really?) All I could think was, "Her parents must be so proud ... NOT!"

As for the march in general, I couldn't see much point to it. Rallying around a particular issue perhaps has some value, but a march just to say you're butthurt over the election results?

Artemisa_of_Persia · 2017-01-24T00:04:33+00:00

Wow, even CNN says that it's pointless. And it's not at all representative of women. It's mostly white women when the majority of white women voted for Trump, and it excludes pro-life feminists.

I think the women empowerment movement needs to switch from an external approach to an internal approach. They need to stop blaming the "patriarchy" for womens' issues. They should be addressing the problem of women majoring in useless degrees, missing the timeframe for having children, teenagers being beholden to social media bullying, etc. It would be great if they adopted the manosphere model which is mostly about self-improvement.

Reference: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/23/opinions/women-why-march-zito-opinion/index.html

Banincoming · 2017-01-23T23:34:59+00:00

I don't understand what they were marching for. I saw a lot of pink, was it breast cancer awareness?

Moral_Gutpunch · 2017-01-26T00:05:51+00:00

I have mixed feelings and feel the smaller, more local marches, like the one my Godmother marched in were better. Far less !Offer, more inclusivity for men, more straightforward messages, and not wanting to be associated with sexists, racists, torturers, people who threaten to blow up the White House, or impose Sharia Law.

I'm glad it was mostly peaceful in DC, but some speakers and some aftermath was facepalming.

[deleted] · 2017-01-26T22:09:01+00:00

I think they are hypocrites. People attack Donald Trump for his words yet they are willing to stand shoulder with Clinton who slandered anyone who came out and accused her husband of sexual escapades and wrong doings. She was willing to stand by a man who repeatedly cheated on her just for her own political gains. She never worked to get to where she is-she married Bill because she saw potential in using him to ascend to the throne of the presidency.

These same woman who are out there protesting need their heads examined if they think Sharia law is the answer to their problems. For one thing, that spectacle over the weekend would never have happened in a country where they practice it. I mean, how many Muslim countries had Women's Marches of their own? There are NO LGBT rights in those countries so any one who identifies as such would be executed. Women have NO rights-how is that good for them? Boggles the mind.

thisisnotforyou_ · 2017-01-26T13:42:28+00:00

I didn't march myself as I don't live in a country that held a march, however I have thoroughly looked at what people who went stood for, and it was not just female reproductive rights.

I feel like perhaps social media slightly misrepresented it as a feminist only march, as a lot of the photos were of the 'funny and punny' feminist signs, but I dug deeper through all the reports and photos.

I feel like reproductive rights were a big issue, and as someone had tweeted "as long as you live you will not see 7 women stand in a room and sign a decree about what men can do with their reproductive organs", which I think is a fair point. Whether you are for, or against abortion, contraception etc I believe you should be granted a choice, and whether you have that choice shouldn't be up to a group of white privileged men to decide.

There were plenty of men and children who marched, as well as women. Many organisations who campaign for climate change, renewable energy, human/civil rights, education, freedom of speech, migration and such also walked. Basically a lot of people who have opposing views and ideologies to Trump. I feel like perhaps that side was not covered enough.

It was a peaceful march. I'm all for that.

Title	Women's March
Author	vanBeethovenLudwig
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Date	January 23, 2017 10:24 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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