Are you her safe bet?

bama79rolltide · 2016-12-09T21:55:41+00:00

Why waste your time? She's already degraded you as a safe bet? She'll ride the cocks of others and assume she'll come to you after she's had enough semen pumped into her to fill a barrel.

You're going to make a nice dime. Plus, you'll hit it off with women bringing in animals for help. You're gonna be a superstar in their eyes.

Kings don't chase, they replace.

Venny_1 · 2016-12-09T22:43:35+00:00

I have written a story about a friend of mine who basically went through the same game. Check out my posting for the thread [Your long journey]

Heed my words OP: Do not play the long game with such a girl! Do not plate her or give her the illusion of a possible commitment beyond the horizon, 'cause she will fuck you up. Realize that her eyes are those of a manipulative, cold and vindictive Medusa.

She can easily cry rape, or stalk, or physically harm you, or whatever the fuck, just to get at you, since she couldn't get you. Show her the cold sholder early on, and let her know that there will be nothing between you two to develop. The longer you let the idea of "us" fester in her mind, the more volatile she will become.

Barvazon · 2016-12-09T20:40:19+00:00

Sounds like you're her meal ticket. Do not get that bitch pregnant. It is not worth the pussy.

Lizard_Of_Ozz · 2016-12-09T22:46:02+00:00

I've definitely been that guy. I had an ex who seemed to be interested in me when she found out I had a good job. Always wanting me to take her out and buy her things without doing a damn thing for me (not even any sex) and I put up with it like a stupid beta because I really liked her. Then on a date I told her my hours were getting cut bad at work and I wouldn't have as much money, like clockwork she lost interest and told me she was going back on dating sites to look for someone else.

Red Pill is really opening my eyes at how women really are and how many mistakes I've habitually made.

vagbutters · 2016-12-09T22:49:28+00:00

This is why I strongly advise anyone who is fat/scrawny to go slow with any new "relationships" that come cropping up. I've known women like this in my past when I used to be fat-- they're nice to you and give you attention that they know no other woman will give you, just to secure you as an eventual meal ticket.

kippybippy · Fri Dec 9 23:06:17 2016 UTC

Send this bitch packing, dude. She's nothing but trouble. Not even worth the sex, man. Manipulative people only hurt...nothing good can come of it.

Juan-San · 2016-12-09T23:48:17+00:00

My previous 7 year LTR, back when I had no idea of TRP, dumped me for some other guy 'cause she wasn't feeling haaaaaappy with me. She told me I was the perfect guy to marry, but she wanted to ~~ride the CC~~ get to know other people (I was her first bf). I was her safe bet.

We had a few conversations after the break up, she wanted me to keep helping her with her computer stuff, teaching her how to use her deviantArt account (which I created, uploaded the drawings, answered her inbox for reqests, whatever), I said I could teach her how to do so, but in the future, as it still really hurted me to see her.

Then I found out TRP. I understood her behavior, how she was planning to get her end game, keep a nice BB guy to fall back after she couldn't keep riding the CC because the wall was gonna hit her somewhat soon (she's 26 and she started getting a bit fat when she dumped me).

Obviously, that hurt even more, and I got angrier, because I knew the truth. So I decided I wasn't gonna take any more of that shit. I blocked her from all of my social media, changed the dArt account password, deleted every drawing and when she asked me why she couldn't log in, I told her I had no idea, and deleted the account. She had already taken a lot from me, and she wasn't gonna get anything else. Then, I went no contact.

That has to be your move. If you play by her game, you're gonna lose. Go no contact, become the better version of yourself, and if she ever comes back, tell her to fuck off.

brinkleybuzz · 2016-12-09T20:13:27+00:00

Some women are secretive and conniving beings.

Some women?! Ha. You have some serious sidebar reading to do ---->

In the relationship game, the average guy plays checkers while the average girl is playing three dimensional chess. Now that you are aware of this, don't get your ass checkmated.

PM-ME-YOUR-SEXTAPE · 2016-12-09T22:32:50+00:00

Same bro. I like luxury and my career path makes me a huge target for BB hunters. But you realize they need your permission: your commitment, to win. So never marry. It's fun banter material: tell her to start looking for a husband etc. This is how harems get built

absolucion · 2016-12-09T19:41:11+00:00

What are you going to do with this information? If I were you and were also a vindictive asshole, I'd play the long game and string this asshole along until she comes to claim her prize.

thekingmaker88 · 2016-12-09T21:01:20+00:00

Who cares what her plan is?

ex_addict_bro · 2016-12-09T21:40:04+00:00

It's crazy to think how malicious girls can actually be.

Simple. As malicious as YOU LET THEM BE.

RedPill_FightClub · 2016-12-10T03:11:56+00:00

You should dick her down, and hard! Pound that chipped beef hole, pull her hair, slap her ass and leave a hand-print shaped welt, reach around and choke her as you're doing her doggie style... treat her like a porn whore. Then, cut her off. Don't even keep her as a plate. Replace that bitch. You already know what she thinks of you, and if you're accepting of that, then holy shit, you have bigger problems than this stupid candy hoe.

chtrchtr_pussyeater · 2016-12-10T03:23:18+00:00

Hit it and quit it. Fuck being a parachute for someone that can't pull their weight in the world...

RPmatrix · 2016-12-10T05:02:30+00:00

Guys, heaps of girls 'have' a guy like this, some chicks have more than one 'ex' who they keep in touch with "just in case".

I've had several women admit this to my face, espicially when I'm with a plate/gf having drinks or dinner with an excess of women and they are mainly talking with each other, not so much me but of course they know I can hear! I'm quite happy to be a 'fly on the wall' in these situation, occaisionally commenting when someone says something so outrageous or untrue that I can't stay quiet ... ahh good times, as my frame is usually unshakeable which only makes them hamster harder .. or become quiet with the righteous guilt I'll make them feel for being such deceptive human beings (never refer to gender when referring to behavioral issues)

In such situations I've heard women admit to spermjacking, keeping 'old flames' burning, fuck the way this Israeli chick would even come to Australia once a year just to make sure she could keep her Australian Visa and meal ticket 'ex-bf' "under her spell" aka in her frame was FUBAR!

Women like this make Machiavelli look like a beginner!

And these a just a few of the basic methods women use to keep orbiters and exes "under their spell", fuck the amount of guys who have fallen for these 'old tricks' is legion, which is why hypergamy is such a 'given AWALT behavior' ... becoz it is!

ForgotUserID · 2016-12-09T23:38:29+00:00

I came across this video yesterday and thought about posting it here but wasn't sure if it'd be welcome. I think you should watch it. I rolled my eyes when I saw it was 33 minutes but once the story started I was hooked. You don't have to be watching the whole time just listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddZvNQOuFw

When it starts getting towards the end don't smash your computer in anger.

kanyewost · 2016-12-10T01:58:31+00:00

TLDR - You were being lined for for beta bucks and escaped

le_king_falcon · 2016-12-09T23:24:18+00:00

Why the long story. This could be summed up in two words. Bullet dodged.

This girl has failed the vetting process without you even having to try and crack her veneer of decency.

If your frame is solid and your a suspicious and vindictive bastard then play the string along whilst not getting her pregnant. Or cut her off, go ghost and show her she no longer exists to you. Revenge or give her no closure. Both will tickle the "fuck that bitch" itch. However it's a hollow victory either way.

Instead observe the correct and properly red pill way out and just date better women so she knows she has been outclassed by the competition she didn't even think she'd have.

After all the best revenge is doing better in life.

favours_of_the_moon · 2016-12-10T01:21:17+00:00

Recently I heard what she said about me. She says I'm her safe bet. I'm in college to become a doctor (Veterinarian) with a scholarship paying my tuition through school and offering me a $100,000 job after I graduate. She says I'm a nice guy and will always welcome her back into my life when she enters because I'll always have feelings for her.

Demand a threesome with her hottest friend.

raisins3142 · 2016-12-10T04:49:43+00:00

One of the first red pills for younger guys should be realizing that their exGFs take a fraction of the time they do to "grieve the relationship".

In my younger days, after breaking up with a girl, I almost felt like my dog had just died. I would talk to close folks about it, and it would take a while. I would not want to date for months.

Well, the difference is that the female hindbrain processes that without a man they will soon die or be somehow worse off. All their female friends have the same hindbrain and get together to set up carousel rides.

That's another early red pill, should be on both accounts at least.

After a break up, most men do not have other men trying to shove vagina at them (mostly because that is hard to do, maybe Chads do have other Chads throwing them poontang to get over a bitch), and respect their grief stage. This is not the case with women.

Single women (especially recently and not by choice) are almost like a female chimpanzee cast out from the troop that still has communication from other sympathetic female chimps.

EDIT: Vet school is very competitive (vet schools < med schools in #). Most vets I know are much smarter than the average family physician. So, this chick thinking she can do this is an example of solipsism (I'd fall for this shit or other men have therefore he will as well). I think it comes down to female difficulty in abstract thinking multiplied by solipsism. They don't realize doing something like programming a computer is likely 1,000 times harder than tying their shoes and showing up sunny in the morning to their job as a nurse, because STEM field require constant analytical and creative thinking that they don't understand or ponder beyond "that seems hard".

HighPiracy · 2016-12-09T21:40:52+00:00

$100,000 a year salary? Might want to go back and check with everyone else in the real world, starting veterinarians average of about $60k a year bro, if you're good. Don't work for Banfield btw.

KStang086 · 2016-12-09T22:00:25+00:00

Realize your own value, stay in shape, use her on nights you feel lonely. Otherwise, her lack of loyalty doesn't deserve any commitment from you.

You are the catch. Remember that. You. Are. The. Fucking. Catch.

[deleted] · 2016-12-09T22:12:15+00:00

You're reading too much into it, you aren't part of some big plan of hers. All you did was give her validation. (She doesn't live in some bubble where you're the only male on the planet with his shit together. She can lie to them but hey look at this chump that KNOWS me and welcomed me back. Time to line up the doctors!)

Guys, don't waste time with ex's. It's all very tempting I know but there is a reason you two aren't together and if she's coming back it's probably for a little confidence boost and closure. Not an evil genious plan and sure as shit not that she changed for the better.

kidwithambition · 2016-12-09T21:47:22+00:00

You're still beta for sleeping with her again, as soon as a girl drops you, you drop her quick times. Whether she was a plate or ltr doesn't matter, she disrespected you.

You taking her back even for that one night showed her the beta you are. I can tell you are just beta bucks because instead of mentioning an aspiring career where you'd enjoy what you do and be stellar at, you mention the amount of dollar signs instead. Jesus. No wonder she is monkey branching back to you, you're her definite beta bucks.

Lucky for you, you got TRP to slap some common sense into you. Not sure if there is a question in that post, but please do not offer advice when you are in no position to do so. You got a long way to go dude. Good luck and drop that chick.

Ardubinston · 2016-12-10T02:28:43+00:00

What I do to avoid this kind of crap is to add a scumbag element to my personality. I'm going to welding school. I build shit with metal. I'm going to probably get a degree in petroleum or mechanical engineering. I'm also a biker. That adds the right amount of AF. You should find some way to add that AF to your life. Learn hunting and butchering. Given you're a vet, this should be easy for you. Meet girls. Many girls in those circles are genuinely sweet and lack the AWALT qualities we despise here. Cut. her. out. of. your. life. You won't benefit from her in any way.

19RomeoQuebec · 2016-12-10T04:37:25+00:00

You should just smile and wave. Penguins of Madagascar style. Just smile and wave. Don't let that bitch get on your boat.

On a side note, you need to make her do things if you cant commit to cutting ties. Something to the effect of sucking your dick as soon as she comes into your space. I had a chick like this In college. If she wanted to be in my presence she had to suck my dick. Damn my dick is getting hard just thinking about old times.

pinkerton_jones · 2016-12-10T03:18:59+00:00

Well James it seems you need more of a Helen than that harlot. At least you caught wind!

Edit: Just to make yourself safe cut her off publicly and shamefully. Break it hard so she hates you, otherwise you'll be raising someone else's kid.

teek636 · 2016-12-10T04:53:58+00:00

Wtf is a CC?

Damn you kids and your damn abbreviations.

stawek · 2016-12-10T12:22:16+00:00

Let her think she's right. You will get occasional sex from her and a very pleasant "fuck off" when she finally hits the wall and comes to you for marriage.

niceguy_gone_cad · 2016-12-12T20:17:22+00:00

LOL, at least she's warning you. Understand that she sees you as a HUGE pussy, that's why she dares to act like this. Don't complicate your life "using" her, if she gets to pissed off she has legal means to fuck you up really hard. Kick her out of your life, and tell her why, better with a text; face to face it might get messy.

mattizie · 2016-12-10T05:37:30+00:00

If you were a bit of a narcisist you could keep up the facade. Keep calling etc. Then dump her when she realises the wall has hit and is trying to go back to you.

I'd personally just let her think what she wanted to think and leave it at that. Not worth the effort.

lennyrego · 2016-12-10T06:37:55+00:00

That's fucked up. This bitch is trying to make you Forrest Gump. My little piece of advice? Run, Forrest, run.

JJMcgray · 2016-12-10T08:30:06+00:00

I sincerely hope to god you don't get back with her.

Don't even risk getting her pregnant dude. If I see you here 5 years from now crying on how she divorce raped you, i am gonna laugh at you.

mksu · 2016-12-10T08:39:46+00:00

Honestly don't know why there is so much surprise over this. It's female sexual strategy 101.

needsomehalpls · 2016-12-10T09:50:25+00:00

Just keep acting like you don't know any better. She might throw you a bone every now and then to keep you interested. And then when she expects you to get on the cucktrain and marry her you laugh so hard and thank her for the free lays and wish her a happy life (with a wink)

RightCrossBrah · 2016-12-10T10:57:09+00:00

Have self respect brother. If you don`t respect yourself, no one will respect you.

KKona12345 · 2016-12-10T13:33:18+00:00

She says I'm a nice guy and will always welcome her back into my life when she enters because I'll always have feelings for her.

This is where you string her along for the next 5+ years and then she she finally comes around to "reward your patience", you just ghost her.

yomo86 · 2016-12-10T15:10:24+00:00

Rule of thumb: Any woman you either banged, licked, dated or even had an LTR with who suddenly drops back into your life after she is 28 is looking for a safe bet.

It's like gamblers who just want to cover the spread if the original bet does not work out, and this happens after there are clear indicators of the failing of the original wager -- and those greedy bastards act quickly and swiftly, just like a woman, because as you know, you cannot cover the spread if all others start betting on the safe horse with more money and less to loose driving down the odds.

smokecheck1976 · 2016-12-10T18:53:34+00:00

Dude, just smile. You know what it was. She was paying the maintenance to make sure you are still around, at least in her mind. Let her play her game. You play yours. Next time it comes around, smash it like a hungry wild dog would go after a piece of meat, and when you are done, tell her not to come around anymore, you can even site that you don't want your girlfriend to know if you want.

ReddittFeist · 2016-12-10T20:52:14+00:00

@eibendrinkin,

There's another aspect of this situation that you might want to consider.

It's very clear that this girl has put you into the Provider box in her brain, and when a woman does that, only guys willing to hold frame and reeducate massively can change that categorization.

And what being a Provider in her mind also means is that she'll only provide you with Provider Sex. If you want a view of what Provider Sex means for you, look here:

https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/open_hypergamy_cartoon.jpg

https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

Guys have turned this around, but it's a much better use of your time to just move on to a new girl and get yourself into her Lover box.

dreaborn · 2016-12-10T09:34:41+00:00

Don't listen to people who are saying that you should use her for sex only. Best thing you can do for yourself is to delete her entirely from your life.This bitch deserve it for wanting to use you as plan B.

Go spin some plates or find virgin/low n count girl if you want LTR.

Jeffornaut · 2016-12-10T08:48:13+00:00

Drop that chick like a handful of poo. Any kind of positive reenforcement she receives just makes her more greedy. She'll need more and more and more instant gratification. Maybe try fucking a few of her friends or her dog of mom ( or dad ). Basura

Toussant · 2016-12-10T09:21:08+00:00

Imagine her coming back when you've started working.

Imagine her taking you for an exhilarating ride where you're not even able to consciously say "fuck TRP" before getting back with her. She makes you the provider and continues the CC.

Imagine it all beforehand, so it doesn't happen IRL.

RXRob · 2016-12-10T09:26:49+00:00

Now that you know all this you should turn her down next time.

You'll have a shit eating grin for a week.

xXxsnabelmannxXx · 2016-12-10T18:51:33+00:00

You should start practising your frame so that you're ready when it happens.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2016-12-11T11:51:53+00:00

You shouldn't harbor anger towards her, she's just playing her strategy. It's understandable to be embittered, just don't show it. And obviously cross her off the list of potential future mates. Do all of this subtly.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-12-12T02:05:14+00:00

Ironically it's your future job and prestigious college education that labelled you a nice guy beta. Women like to put people in neat little boxes. You like X therefor you must be like Y. They rarely give you the time for them to get to know you. I've had girls who thought I was someone I wasn't because of the way we met.

For example one girl who had never gone a year to college in her life met me when I started my first year of college. She thought I was a total bookworm who always studied and shieet. I had not told her I was only trying college out before I went and re-enlisted for the army. Neither did I tell her I skipped and cheated my way through community college. While I spend most of my time working out with the top tier operators who I knew through army connections and getting steaming drunk before trying to reinvigorate my ailing football career.

Ofcourse I never bothered to show her who I was because she was completely smitten already and I had no plans to upgrade her from plate status. Eventually she bounced for some dude who was a minesweeper in the army. Now he was the cool guy and being a book nerd was uncool.

After about half a year I reenlisted in the army as a higher tier operator. This dude literally has to clean up for me before I go in guns blazing. From what I was told he's a total Beta to. But because I appeared as meal ticket I became one. He wore a uniform and so he was the cool dangerous guy. She thought she upgraded even though all it took was one question about my commemorative badges who were nicely presented on the living room wall. But I guess she figured I had won those at paintball.

So the lesson here is that you should always hide or downplay your Beta provider traits and upscale your Alpha ones. Women don't know up from down when it comes to properly vetting guys.

wtf793 · 2016-12-13T20:20:24+00:00

TRP saved your life. There was this girl I was into who always said I'd be the one she will marry.

(But not the one she will fuck, because beta bucks)

PM_YOUR_BUNGHOLE · 2016-12-18T04:37:20+00:00

many women think like this. in fact women in GENERAL think like this. the old cliche about the cock carousel until 30 then they are ready to "settle down" etc etc. the only diff is, some girls have actually planned it out by having that guy as an orbiter, or having on and off flings with him.

some girls on the other hand never go through the slut phase, and just marry or want a serious LTR with the first guy they are sure will make a good beta provider. this sucks for the guy because she isn't attracted to him in the least, and it will be a dead bed room. she will also put on shit tons of weight and not even be nice to him.

basically if a girl wants an LTR with you, you've already failed frame and are seen as a beta. there are posts on here about guys who had FWB type girls, who suddenly started acting "non slutty", when they realised just how wealthy the guy was. if a girl even WANTS an LTR with you, you're a beta, this is what i believe.

i have had so many girls say to me "i don't get in relationships with good looking guys, they are always assholes". after observing their behavior, this translates to "i will fuck alphas with a six pack and chiseled jaw and tats who act like badboys, but i only want to SERIOUSLY date beta male providers, which is why im interested in a relationship with YOU". so i immediately know its a huge red flag if a girl tells me she doesn't date "good looking assholes". it means she thinks im fucking unattractive, i dont make her pussy wet, but i would be a good little beta to squirt out shitlets with and pay for her shit while she gets fat well into her middle aged years. and fuck that shit. if a girl doesnt find me good looking i don't want to date her.

shiggityshoo · 2016-12-10T19:46:35+00:00

Others have already said it all, but I hope she tries to worm her way into your life later and you laugh her out, with some bombshell on your arm.

Title	Are you her safe bet?
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Date	December 9, 2016 7:32 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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